Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Name: ATUL, DOB: 12-04-1979, TOB: 04:50AM. POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: - 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant. 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant. Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful. 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. with regards yours Shivendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Dear Shivendra, Pl confirm whether Lat " 28:38:54 North " or " 28:35 North " gives Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16Asc. Then we can discuss. Regards, tw , " shivendra56 " <shivendra56 wrote: > > Name: ATUL, > DOB: 12-04-1979, > TOB: 04:50AM. > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: - > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant. > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant. > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful. > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > with regards > yours > Shivendra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yourstw853 <tw853 wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 II Om Gurave Namah II Hari Om, Dear Shivendra ji, What was the place of judgement? I did exactly cast chart the way you described.I went through your analysis. And also posting of Sri Tin win ji. Precisely speaking ,It is a real challange to correctly apply rules taught by Authotities in site of all the softwares. Like you I am also wondering ,When Sri Atul will be really married .Date close at least to few days is what is needed to know. 1.I look foward experts to demonstrate how they predict ? 2.By the way , If possible some one may educate, how to incorporate lat and long automitically into J deepika from google map.I had to go outside J deepika to google earth interface ,trace the long and manualy enter in the screen of J deepika. With regards . OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Shivendra Tiwari Monday, March 17, 2008 7:16 PM Re: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yourstw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regards yoursShivendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Dear Shivendra Tiwari, Firstly, without touching Geocentric conversion option,Jyotishya Deepika gives almost the same Asc Pis 01:57:53 for Google earth 28N39,77E14 of Kasturba Hospital as KPAstro's Pis 01:57:56, which is Geocentric that we are using. (Out of 3 sec difference, 2 sec is due to the difference in NKPA.) Secondly, it is an interesting chart, for which only Moon Bhukti in JUpiter Dasa is found capable to give marriage. Other KP views are appreciated for learning. Thirdly, I'm sorry to say that there is no way to select the fruitful significators, if someone is stuck in such signinificators of KPAstro print-out signifying almost all houses in Msg#15774. No answer at all to the same question asked by Babu ji. Regards, tw , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > > Respected sir, > I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. > Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. > With regards. > yours > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) > 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., > Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). > Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. > 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. > 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. > Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) > 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. > Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. > 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shivendra, > > > > Pl confirm whether Lat " 28:38:54 North " or " 28:35 North " gives Asc.: > > Pieces 01:58:16Asc. > > > > Then we can discuss. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " shivendra56 " shivendra56@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Name: ATUL, > > > DOB: 12-04-1979, > > > TOB: 04:50AM. > > > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > > North. > > > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > > > > > Sir, > > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > > 11 > > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > > are > > > here as under: - > > > > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant. > > > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > > > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant. > > > > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > > status > > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > > 1 > > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > > owned > > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > > promised. > > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > > > > > Significators: > > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > > Mars > > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > > is > > > fruitful. > > > > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > > star > > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > > 10 > > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > > Sun > > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > > sun > > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > > marriage. > > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > > so > > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > > > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > > Jup > > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > > sub > > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > > > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > > > with regards > > > yours > > > Shivendra > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Dear Shivendra Tiwari, The TOB needs to be corrected,such that the sub-lord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively. The EXACT TOB using Raichur's SW,works out to 04-45-30. AM... Kindly work out the further details...using KPNA. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 Sent: Monday, 17 March, 2008 7:16:46 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yourstw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > @gro ups.com, "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 L Y Rao sir Can u give the judgment data for birth time correction, I will also try to learn from it. If u can explain it stepwise, it will be very usefull to all. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Shivendra Tiwari, The TOB needs to be corrected,such that the sub-lord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively. The EXACT TOB using Raichur's SW,works out to 04-45-30. AM... Kindly work out the further details...using KPNA. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 Monday, 17 March, 2008 7:16:46 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yours tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat " 28:38:54 North " or " 28:35 North " gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > @gro ups.com, " shivendra56 " shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Respected Sir, The place of judgement was my residence i.e. Delhi - 110093. But you should keep in your mind that place of judgement is judging the natel horscope is only necessary for rulling planet of the movement, otherwise in horrary it is always. As far as occuring of event is destiny. with regards yoursswami <swami wrote: II Om Gurave Namah II Hari Om, Dear Shivendra ji, What was the place of judgement? I did exactly cast chart the way you described.I went through your analysis. And also posting of Sri Tin win ji. Precisely speaking ,It is a real challange to correctly apply rules taught by Authotities in site of all the softwares. Like you I am also wondering ,When Sri Atul will be really married .Date close at least to few days is what is needed to know. 1.I look foward experts to demonstrate how they predict ? 2.By the way , If possible some one may educate, how to incorporate lat and long automitically into J deepika from google map.I had to go outside J deepika to google earth interface ,trace the long and manualy enter in the screen of J deepika. With regards . OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Shivendra Tiwari Monday, March 17, 2008 7:16 PM Re: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yourstw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yoursSheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regardsyoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 II Om Gurave Namah II Hari Om, Dear Sivendra, I wanted to ask data related to moment of judgement but wrote place of judgement.I am sorry for inappropiate writing. In natal readings RP are helpful. In stellar my understanding is there are only two methods to judge fruitful significators and i wantd to check RP on your behalf for It was you who was reading about Sri Atul. Second methos is well known " Marriage will be given by planets who are significators of 2,7 and 11 but are not significators of negating houses by Const and Sub both.or either" provided marriage is promised. With regards. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Shivendra Tiwari Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:32 PM Re: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected Sir, The place of judgement was my residence i.e. Delhi - 110093. But you should keep in your mind that place of judgement is judging the natel horscope is only necessary for rulling planet of the movement, otherwise in horrary it is always. As far as occuring of event is destiny. with regards yoursswami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: II Om Gurave Namah II Hari Om, Dear Shivendra ji, What was the place of judgement? I did exactly cast chart the way you described.I went through your analysis. And also posting of Sri Tin win ji. Precisely speaking ,It is a real challange to correctly apply rules taught by Authotities in site of all the softwares. Like you I am also wondering ,When Sri Atul will be really married .Date close at least to few days is what is needed to know. 1.I look foward experts to demonstrate how they predict ? 2.By the way , If possible some one may educate, how to incorporate lat and long automitically into J deepika from google map.I had to go outside J deepika to google earth interface ,trace the long and manualy enter in the screen of J deepika. With regards . OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Shivendra Tiwari Monday, March 17, 2008 7:16 PM Re: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yourstw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Respected Sir, I obliged. I will cast again and will submit the same. Regards yoursYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Shivendra Tiwari, The TOB needs to be corrected,such that the sub-lord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively. The EXACT TOB using Raichur's SW,works out to 04-45-30. AM... Kindly work out the further details...using KPNA. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Monday, 17 March, 2008 7:16:46 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yourstw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > @gro ups.com, "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Dear Sheetal, For successfully undertaking correction of TOB,using K.P., one should firstly have the Sign-Star-Sub-Subsub Table for all nos,1 - 249. Then I personally use the trial & error method...it is quite time consuming as one needs to keep moving the ascendant,or cast a BC such that, the star-lord and the sub-lord of the MOON appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Ascendant... However,in my personal experience,over the years,this method has been found to be very accurate(approaching 100%) if the TOB given to be corrected, is within + or - 25 minutes from the actual time... If the TOB given is + or - more than this,I use the Ruling Planets method as explained very nicely and in detail...in the book Astrosecrets & K.P. in the chapter Birth Time Rectification... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sheetal <ratnamalag Sent: Tuesday, 18 March, 2008 12:45:34 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. L Y Rao sir Can u give the judgment data for birth time correction, I will also try to learn from it. If u can explain it stepwise, it will be very usefull to all. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shivendra Tiwari, The TOB needs to be corrected,such that the sub-lord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively. The EXACT TOB using Raichur's SW,works out to 04-45-30. AM... Kindly work out the further details...using KPNA. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMonday, 17 March, 2008 7:16:46 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yours tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > @gro ups.com, "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Dear Sir Thank you very much. You are such a senior astrologer and so it must be correct. I remember I read in your mail few mon back re this and tried many times. Also I did study for known birth charts where I am sure of birth time and even if we think it of having +/- by few mts then also star lord and sublord or MOON doesn't match with sublord and subsub lord of LAGNA. In some charts after CBT lagna sublord didn't match with health/other incidences of few charts. Anyways I will again try to study this according to ur formula. Sir I may be wrong but I feel sometimes star lord and sublord of MOON may not appear directly as LAGNA sub and subsub but may have some indirect connection with each other. Do u have such experience anytime? thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sheetal, For successfully undertaking correction of TOB,using K.P., one should firstly have the Sign-Star-Sub-Subsub Table for all nos,1 - 249. Then I personally use the trial & error method...it is quite time consuming as one needs to keep moving the ascendant,or cast a BC such that, the star-lord and the sub-lord of the MOON appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Ascendant... However,in my personal experience,over the years,this method has been found to be very accurate(approaching 100%) if the TOB given to be corrected, is within + or - 25 minutes from the actual time... If the TOB given is + or - more than this,I use the Ruling Planets method as explained very nicely and in detail...in the book Astrosecrets & K.P. in the chapter Birth Time Rectification... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sheetal <ratnamalag Tuesday, 18 March, 2008 12:45:34 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. L Y Rao sir Can u give the judgment data for birth time correction, I will also try to learn from it. If u can explain it stepwise, it will be very usefull to all. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shivendra Tiwari, The TOB needs to be corrected,such that the sub-lord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively. The EXACT TOB using Raichur's SW,works out to 04-45-30. AM... Kindly work out the further details...using KPNA. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> @gro ups.comMonday, 17 March, 2008 7:16:46 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yours tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat " 28:38:54 North " or " 28:35 North " gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > @gro ups.com, " shivendra56 " shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008  II Om Gurave Namah II Hari Om, Dear sirs, Your postings are educative.I understand You mean star -lord and Sub lord of tatkalika moon would indicate Sub -lord and sub-sub lord of ASCendant at birth. Tatkalika means time of judgement on a particular day at a particular place. If i understood correctly Kindly post the data about moment of judgement you undertook rectification , to enable me estimate if i can also adopt the technique by arriving Birth time You have arrived. with regards. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:00 PM Re: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Dear Sheetal, For successfully undertaking correction of TOB,using K.P., one should firstly have the Sign-Star-Sub-Subsub Table for all nos,1 - 249. Then I personally use the trial & error method...it is quite time consuming as one needs to keep moving the ascendant,or cast a BC such that, the star-lord and the sub-lord of the MOON appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Ascendant... However,in my personal experience,over the years,this method has been found to be very accurate(approaching 100%) if the TOB given to be corrected, is within + or - 25 minutes from the actual time... If the TOB given is + or - more than this,I use the Ruling Planets method as explained very nicely and in detail...in the book Astrosecrets & K.P. in the chapter Birth Time Rectification... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sheetal <ratnamalag > Sent: Tuesday, 18 March, 2008 12:45:34 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. L Y Rao sir Can u give the judgment data for birth time correction, I will also try to learn from it. If u can explain it stepwise, it will be very usefull to all. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shivendra Tiwari, The TOB needs to be corrected,such that the sub-lord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively. The EXACT TOB using Raichur's SW,works out to 04-45-30. AM... Kindly work out the further details...using KPNA. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMonday, 17 March, 2008 7:16:46 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yours tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > @gro ups.com, "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 sir can i ask u 1 thing???after seeing ur mail i observed a lot of charts and found out that moon star lord is not always ascendant sublord......but ascendant sublord in most cases is connected in any way with birth star lord in way of conjunction,aspect,house occupation,in that planets star or sub like in such manner........sir did u observe any such things also??????--- On Tue, 18/3/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Date: Tuesday, 18 March, 2008, 8:00 PM Dear Sheetal, For successfully undertaking correction of TOB,using K.P., one should firstly have the Sign-Star-Sub- Subsub Table for all nos,1 - 249. Then I personally use the trial & error method...it is quite time consuming as one needs to keep moving the ascendant,or cast a BC such that, the star-lord and the sub-lord of the MOON appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Ascendant... However,in my personal experience,over the years,this method has been found to be very accurate(approachin g 100%) if the TOB given to be corrected, is within + or - 25 minutes from the actual time... If the TOB given is + or - more than this,I use the Ruling Planets method as explained very nicely and in detail...in the book Astrosecrets & K.P. in the chapter Birth Time Rectification. .. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 18 March, 2008 12:45:34 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. L Y Rao sir Can u give the judgment data for birth time correction, I will also try to learn from it. If u can explain it stepwise, it will be very usefull to all. Thanks and regards Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shivendra Tiwari, The TOB needs to be corrected,such that the sub-lord and the sub-sublord of the Ascendant appear as the Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively. The EXACT TOB using Raichur's SW,works out to 04-45-30. AM... Kindly work out the further details...using KPNA. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMonday, 17 March, 2008 7:16:46 PMRe: Re: Marriage, plz comments. Respected sir, I am extreemly very sorry since I was out of station and could not give the answer. The Lat and longitude were taken by me with the help of google Map . com. The place where birth took place was Kasturba Hospital and it was my mind to prepare horoscope for the exact point. Further the asc. was based on the software Jyotishya Deepika recently upgraded Ver. 2. Finally your reference of msg#15774 is correct but it was based on Shri Richur's software. Sir as per your guidance, actually I was confused to slect the significatore based on that theory because there are many significatores. Sir it may also be comment upon whether procedure of consideration and selection of significatore based on Hon'ble KP is correct. your guidance will definitely lead to ispire me in the matter of slection. With regards. yours tw853 <tw853 > wrote: 1. As per Google Earth, 77:14:16.21 East, 28:38:55.75 North, however almost the same chart in Msg#15774, Atul, Apr 12, 1979, 04:50 AM, Kasturba Hospital, Delhi, 28N39,77E14,NKPA 23:28:39, Asc Pis 01:57:56 (KPAstro 3.0) 2. 7th sub-lord Ju in 5, l/o 1,10,11 is in Sa star and Me sub, ie., Ju(5,1,10,11) is in star Sa(6,12) and in sub Me(1,4,5,7). Marriage is promised because of 11th signification supported by 5th & 7th but might be difficult like almost denial due to the signification of 1,10,6,12 supported by 1 & 4. 3. It's the same for the current running Ju Dasa (01 Nov 2005 to 01 Nov 2021) to give marriage. 4. The only possible Bhukti for marriage in Ju Dasa is Mo Bhukti (02 Mar 2017 to 02 Jul 2018) but still very doubtful due to the signification of 6,12,8.. Mo(7,6); star Mo(7,6); Ve(12,3,8) 5. Ma Bhukti (03 Jul 2018 to 08 Jun 2019) is impossible for marriage. Ma+(1,2,9); Sa(6,12); Su+(1,+10), +Su with no plt in its star & Sbl of 10. 6. This is as per KP and there is a little hope in Ju Dasa but there is a lot of possibility for marriage as per 4 step primary significators given in Msg#15774. @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra,> > Pl confirm whether Lat "28:38:54 North" or "28:35 North" gives Asc.: > Pieces 01:58:16Asc.> > Then we can discuss.> > Regards,> > tw> > > @gro ups.com, "shivendra56" shivendra56@ > wrote:> >> > Name: ATUL,> > DOB: 12-04-1979,> > TOB: 04:50AM.> > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 > North.> > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.> > > > Sir, > > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or > 11 > > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 > are > > here as under: -> > > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.> > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)> > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.> > > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional > status > > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned > 1 > > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and > owned > > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is > promised. > > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.> > > > Significators: > > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so > Mars > > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars > is > > fruitful.> > > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own > star > > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 > 10 > > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since > Sun > > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So > sun > > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of > marriage. > > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status > so > > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.> > > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in > Jup > > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat > sub > > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.> > > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.> > with regards> > yours> > Shivendra> >> Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus-Shani-moon-Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3,6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regards yoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus-Shani-moon-Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3,6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regards yoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 dear madam, i generally take rahu/ketu if they appear directly in RP. in your case rahu is agent of shani,so rahu shud not be taken and shani will be 7th sublord.you need not recast the horoscpe for to get such sublord as a cuspal sublord. regards -sunil gondhalekar On 3/19/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus-Shani-moon-Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3,6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regards yoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Dear Sir Thanks for ur valuble advice So in this perticular case I will take Shani as 7th sublord. Regards Dr Sheetal On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:06 AM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Respected sir Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. Regards Yours Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag > wrote: Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus-Shani-moon-Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3,6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag > wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regardsyoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Respected Sir, I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon-Ven. To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer-Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare "No marriage". with regards yours.Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: Respected sir Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. Regards Yours Sheetal <ratnamalag > wrote: Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag > wrote: Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus-Shani-moon-Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3,6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag > wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regardsyoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Dear Shivendra, As per your own analysis/confirmation the TOB arrived at is correct...but you are apprehensive about your reading of his marriage...In that case the best way out,is to resoert to Horary Horoscopy...ask him to give you a horary number between 1 & 249...and analyse... L.Y.Rao. Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2008 11:18:51 AMRe: Marriage, plz comments. Respected Sir, I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon- Ven. To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer- Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare "No marriage". with regards yours.Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Respected sir Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. Regards Yours Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! Dr Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars-Venus- Shani-moon- Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3, 6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. Thanks and regards Sheetal On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Respected Dr. Sheetal Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. Regards yours Sheetal <ratnamalag (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Shivendra I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani- -Shani STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU, KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS--8H STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9, 8 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10, 11,12 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9, 6 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+ 8 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani- -Moon--Mars) NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. Best of luck to Atul Regards Dr Sheetal On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in> wrote: Name: ATUL,DOB: 12-04-1979,TOB: 04:50AM.POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North.NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16.Sir, I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are here as under: -2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant.7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star)11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant.Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty.Significators: 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is fruitful.7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good.11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful.Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future.with regardsyoursShivendra Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Dear Friends, 1. A general rule is not to change the TOB if the native does not have any doubt about it. 2. No body can know about one's TOB better than oneself. Saying this is the exact or correct TOB is not realistic because it'll change depending on the method of rectification or astrologer, time and place even for the same method. Fate or astrology cannot be set like in a mathematical equation. This is an endless matter which cannot be solved at all by a full proof method. 3. Applying an adjusted cusp sublord in predition whithout recasting the chart to get this adjusted sublord is using the unconsistent chart and so it cannot give the consistent result. 4. Please think and rethink about the responsibility of changing one's TOB or fate without a sure ground or the request of oneself and the possibility of to be cursed for that. Regards, tw , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > > Respected Sir, > I made my attempt to check the correctness of horoscop of the corrected time as suggested. > Atul, DOB 12-04-1979, TOB 4-45-30, POB Delhi 77E14, 28N39, Asc. Piece 0-22-15 i.e. Jup-Jup-Moon-Ven. > To verify correctness the first rule was verified by Shri Sheetal ji and corrected the TOB as 4-45-30 against 4-50 Hrs. > As per another rule, 9th house should connected with Asc. In this case 9th lord is mars having positional status and placed in Asc. The star lord Sat is in leo lord of which Sun having positional status is also placed in Asc. The sub lord of 9th is Ven which is in star of Jup the lord of Asc. Hence this is also satisfy. > Finally we may test the correctness by event which would have been taken place in past. Mr. Atul was accidented on 3-2-2002 during the period of Rahu-Ven-Mer-Rahu period and his L 3 & L4 was breaked resultantly his spin was compressed so his legs remained disterebed for three to four month. In short this is verifyable through revised TOB. > Coming to the point again CSL 7 is Rahu and in no way connected to 2, 5, 7 and 11 except 8. Again should I declare " No marriage " . > with regards > yours. > > Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > Respected sir > Thanks a lot. Though I have casted chart with the help of corrected time given by you and will submit my finding by evening today. Since I am worried a number 03 came in my mind for the purpose, so kindly take it for the purpose. > Regards > Yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > Why dont u give kp no to tally the birth chart findings!!! > Dr Sheetal > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > Hello > > When I examined the birth chart, I took out the RP at the time of judgement of birth chart. In 4step we use routinely RP to fix Vidasha when there is doubt in mind, and also to confirm the sublord of the house under querry in birth chart. I judged the chart at Male,on 18th March 08 at 00.45Am and Rulling planets were =Mars- Venus-Shani-moon-Moon.Shani was Moon star lord. There was no Guru in Rulling so I took nearby planet Shani as the sublord of house under querry.Also Moon and Mars are there to consider as Vidasha and Sukshma though there was no doubt in my mind for Vidasha > > 7th sublord either Guru or shani both signify +ve houses for marriage 5,7,8,11 along with negating houses 6,10,12 etc but I personally feel When 7th sub has given green signal for marriage it will compete it and then the role of negating houses will come. > > One point came to my mind while going through this chart 2nd time and I want to request Mr Sunil Gondhalekar to correct me if anything wrong. Because in RP, Rahu represents Shani and if I take Rahu as 7th sublord then Rahu signify=1,3,6,8,12. Mostly all negating houses at all 4steps expect 8th house which is taken as supporting house for marriage. So I have doubt in mind will this 8th house signification will give marriage to this person in presence of all other negating houses at all steps? I request Sunil sir to give his advice and opinion to me. > > Thanks and regards > Sheetal > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote: > Respected Dr. Sheetal > Thanks for taking pain and providing relief. Sir if you donot feel otherwise, kindly guide me as to how I should take CSL 7 as Sat in place of Jup. > Regards > yours > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > > > > Dear Shivendra > > I have tried to solve the querry with Astro 3.3 SW ,by 4step method.When I solved this querry at Male,On 18th March at 00.45AM, Guru is not in rulling but Shani is there so I took Shani as 7th sublord; > > 7th sub shani signifies 5,8,11 & 3,9 along with negating houses 6,10,12, So marriage is promised with lot of marital problems in life. > > Presently running dashas are=Guru--Shani--Shani > > STRONG PLANETS=SUN,MARS,RAHU,KETU & MOON. NO CUSPAL PLANETS: SHUKRA+KETU CONJUNCTION 1* > ASP=CUSPAL ASPECT WITHIN 3*.20' ORBIT; GURU--9H; SHANI-- 8H;MARS- -8H > > STEP SIGNIFICATION OF PLANETS= > > GURU M.DASHA=5,6,10,11+9,8 > 5,8,11+ve houses and 6,10--ve houses also. > > SHANI BHUKTI = 3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 > 5,8,11 +ve houses and 6,10,12 --ve houses also. > > MOON VIDASHA=5,7,10,11+9,6 > 5,7,11 +ve houses and 6,12 --ve houses also. > > MARS SUKHSMA=1,2,4,6,9,+8 > 2 is the required house so I took sushma of Mars to complete the chain of 2,7,11+5,8 supporting houses > > This period is 28th May to 2nd June( if birth time 4.50 is taken then GURU is 7th sublord and Mars sukshma period is 6th June to 10th june.) > > TRANSIT= Transit favourable for all dasha swamis betn 28th May to 10th june.(at first 2steps, for Guru and Shani through subs and for fast Mars thruough star.) > > Conclusion= Atul should get married between 28th May and 1oth June 09.(Guru--Shani--Moon--Mars) > > NB=Guru, Shani,Moon, Mars all dasha swamis are strong significator for +ve houses for marriage so he should get married definitely but all dasha swamis are strong significators of --ve houses for marriage also so that show he will have mariatal problems in his life. These negative houses should not deny marriage to him. > > Best of luck to Atul > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, shivendra56 <shivendra56 wrote: > Name: ATUL, > DOB: 12-04-1979, > TOB: 04:50AM. > POB: Kasturba Hospital, Delhi. 77:14:16 East, 28:38:54 North. > NKPA (2003): 23:28:41. > Asc.: Pieces 01:58:16. > > Sir, > I have examined the chart to find out marriage. KP Rule: > house 2, 7 & 11 are to be examined. Csl 7 should signify 2, 7 or 11 > than marriage would be promised. In this case house 2, 7 and 11 are > here as under: - > > 2. Ar. Mars – Ketu – Sat vacant. > 7. Vir. Mer – Sun – Jup Moon (in own star) > 11. Sag. Jup – Sun – Moon Vacant. > > Analysis: Cuspal sub lord of 7 is Jup. Jup has no positional status > since Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup star. Jup occupy 5 th and owned 1 > not empty, 10 (E) & 11(E). Jup is in Sat star occupy 6 th and owned > 12 (not empty). Jup is in Mer sub having no positional status and > occupy 1 owned 4 (E), 5 & 7 both not empty. Mer is in Jup star > signify 1,5,10 & 11. Thus Jup signify 7 & 11 so marriage is promised. > But its connection with 6 and 12 indicate difficulty. > > Significators: > 2 nd house is vacant. Mars rules 2 nd house. Non in mars star so Mars > signify 2 nd. Mars is in sub of sun. Non in sun star, Sun occupy 1 > but does not own any house. Sun is in Mer star owned 7 hence Mars is > fruitful. > > 7 th house is occupied by Moon and owned by Mer. Moon is in own star > and in Ven sub. Since Ven has no positional status so signify 1, 5 10 > & 11. Hence Moon is fruitful. Mer has no positional status since Sun > is in Mer star. Sun is in sub of Sat in 6 signify 3, 8 and 12. So sun > is not fruitful since it indicate break in negotiation of marriage. > Mer is in Jup star and rahu sub. Since Rahu has positional status so > strongly signify 6 th a negative house hence not good. > > 11 th house is empty and owned by Jup. Mer, Ven and Ketu are in Jup > star. Mer as has already discussed is not fruitful. Ven is in Sat sub > in 6 in star of Ven occupy 12 owned 3 & 8 hence not fruitful. > Similarly Ketu having positional status conjoined with Ven and > strongly an agent of Ven which is not fruitful. Further Ketu is in > sub of Sat signify 6 and 3, 8 & 12 hence not fruitful. > > Thus only fruitful significators are Jup, Mars and Moon. But this > period will come so late when marriage is not probable. Sir any > member will comment upon of possibility of marriage in near future. > with regards > yours > Shivendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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