Correctness of horoscope

March 2, 2008

I have been studying KP system for quite some time and have tested

out many softwares for automaticaly generating the horoscopes. What I

see is that all of them compute the house cusps differently and the

variation are there for everyonbe to see, though the planetary

position match. Is there a way that one can standardise the horoscope

calculation process with anaccurate placidian table of house,

standardised KP ayanamsa and ephemeris like given in KP reader 1. I

am sure that this will go a long way in progressing this field better.

Anybody out there having similar views please confirm and guide.

March 3, 2008

Dear crk,

Most K.P.-SW's use similar methods to cast a cusp...they also offer a choice of the System and the Ayanamsa one would like to chose..

L.Y.Rao.

csrk_q <csrk_q Sent: Sunday, 2 March, 2008 7:13:45 PM Correctness of horoscope

I have been studying KP system for quite some time and have tested out many softwares for automaticaly generating the horoscopes. What I see is that all of them compute the house cusps differently and the variation are there for everyonbe to see, though the planetary position match. Is there a way that one can standardise the horoscope calculation process with anaccurate placidian table of house, standardised KP ayanamsa and ephemeris like given in KP reader 1. I am sure that this will go a long way in progressing this field better.Anybody out there having similar views please confirm and guide.

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March 3, 2008

Standardisation of Horoscope calculation process may not be practically possible due to commercial minded and ego centric tendency of people. Everyone claims his is accurate and the best and wants others to follow him. This is the main hurdle for standardisation.May God give good sense to those people to work in the direction of standardisation. Naidu KP K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

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March 4, 2008

As demonstrated in Msg#16101, 16006, 4218, 3477, the commonly used

SWs are reliable for accuracy generally giving the same subs, except

in the boder line case of a planet or cusp position.

If data are provided for something different, it can been

practically checked, otherwise there is no problem to use any

commonly used SW. One can have good faith in the expertise of the

providers.

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear crk,

> Most K.P.-SW's use similar methods to cast a

cusp....they also offer a choice of the System and the Ayanamsa one

would like to chose..

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> csrk_q <csrk_q

>

> Sunday, 2 March, 2008 7:13:45 PM

> Correctness of horoscope

>

> I have been studying KP system for quite some time and have tested

> out many softwares for automaticaly generating the horoscopes.

What I

> see is that all of them compute the house cusps differently and

the

> variation are there for everyonbe to see, though the planetary

> position match. Is there a way that one can standardise the

horoscope

> calculation process with anaccurate placidian table of house,

> standardised KP ayanamsa and ephemeris like given in KP reader 1.

I

> am sure that this will go a long way in progressing this field

better.

> Anybody out there having similar views please confirm and guide.

>

> Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive

online at http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php

>

March 8, 2008

Dear All,

Let me address the problem from a different perspective.

There are multiple systems today with more than 3 KP ayanamsa

available in some software. Why there are so many ayanamsha's when

Guruji KSK himself says use only one. Also when Guruji has used

Raphael table of houses/ephemeris or his own for calculations while

most commercially available software uses the swiss ephemeris or

other systems of calculaing house cusps. Also it is for everyone to

see that the charts in KP readers do not exactly match with the

charts in commercial software.

We are also seeing an explosion of different theories like cuspal

interlinks, 4 step theory and others. For any theory to be scientfic

the data needs to be based on standardised methods of calculation

which nobody I presume is able to provide confidently like KSK.

Knowing how precise computers can be to the extend of tracking a

missile in the air and bringing it down leads me to beleive that this

definitely needs standardisation. The algorithms used to calculate

needs to be accurate otherwise all calculations will go wrong and one

cannot come up with new theories or show the lacuna in the old one.

Plus with due respect to all the companies who develop these

softwares one needs to maybe appreciate that defining the methodology

of charting is the scope of wise astrologers and not software

engineers who may be otherwise experts in their profession and with

great knowledge of astronomical calculations.

Please guide.

Regards

CSR

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> As demonstrated in Msg#16101, 16006, 4218, 3477, the commonly used

> SWs are reliable for accuracy generally giving the same subs,

except

> in the boder line case of a planet or cusp position.

>

> If data are provided for something different, it can been

> practically checked, otherwise there is no problem to use any

> commonly used SW. One can have good faith in the expertise of the

> providers.

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear crk,

> > Most K.P.-SW's use similar methods to cast a

> cusp....they also offer a choice of the System and the Ayanamsa one

> would like to chose..

> > L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > csrk_q <csrk_q@>

> >

> > Sunday, 2 March, 2008 7:13:45 PM

> > Correctness of horoscope

> >

> > I have been studying KP system for quite some time and have

tested

> > out many softwares for automaticaly generating the horoscopes.

> What I

> > see is that all of them compute the house cusps differently and

> the

> > variation are there for everyonbe to see, though the planetary

> > position match. Is there a way that one can standardise the

> horoscope

> > calculation process with anaccurate placidian table of house,

> > standardised KP ayanamsa and ephemeris like given in KP reader 1.

> I

> > am sure that this will go a long way in progressing this field

> better.

> > Anybody out there having similar views please confirm and guide.

> >

> > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive

> online at http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php

> >

>

March 10, 2008

Dear Swami ji,

1. You're right that there are so many ayanamsha, found up to 28

including the latest Chopra, and most were introduced by the great

astrologers with their own names. The mostly used one is Lahiri, who

is not an astrologer, and in 1994 coference of all India 48 alamanac

makers, 39 approved Lahiri.

2. In KP we use KP ayanamsa, which is not much diifferent from

Lahiri as said by Guruji KSK. As Shri Raichur has mentioned and also

demonstrated by the SW comparisons, generally there will be the same

subs by using even Lahiri.

3. In Guruji KSK's time, Raphael was the best, nowadays Swiss, and

the same Placidus house system but computerized. It's not easy to

compile the examples in KP Readers in the computerized form as done

for Dr. B.V. Raman's How to Judge a Horoscope Vol 1 & 2 in the Vedic

groups.

4. It's true that the charts in KP readers do not exactly match with

the charts in commercial software but it is not the fault of SWs.

5. It's a very good idea of standardisation but it is practically

impossible, for instance even in KP some prefer to use the KP

staright line ayanamsa which is very closed to Lahiri within around

40 sec.

Regards,

tw

, " csrk_q " <csrk_q wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Let me address the problem from a different perspective.

>

> There are multiple systems today with more than 3 KP ayanamsa

> available in some software. Why there are so many ayanamsha's when

> Guruji KSK himself says use only one. Also when Guruji has used

> Raphael table of houses/there are so many ayanamsha's or his own

for calculations while

> most commercially available software uses the swiss ephemeris or

> other systems of calculaing house cusps. Also it is for everyone

to

> see that the charts in KP readers do not exactly match with the

> charts in commercial software.

>

> We are also seeing an explosion of different theories like cuspal

> interlinks, 4 step theory and others. For any theory to be

scientfic

> the data needs to be based on standardised methods of calculation

> which nobody I presume is able to provide confidently like KSK.

>

> Knowing how precise computers can be to the extend of tracking a

> missile in the air and bringing it down leads me to beleive that

this

> definitely needs standardisation. The algorithms used to calculate

> needs to be accurate otherwise all calculations will go wrong and

one

> cannot come up with new theories or show the lacuna in the old

one.

>

> Plus with due respect to all the companies who develop these

> softwares one needs to maybe appreciate that defining the

methodology

> of charting is the scope of wise astrologers and not software

> engineers who may be otherwise experts in their profession and

with

> great knowledge of astronomical calculations.

>

> Please guide.

>

> Regards

> CSR

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > As demonstrated in Msg#16101, 16006, 4218, 3477, the commonly

used

> > SWs are reliable for accuracy generally giving the same subs,

> except

> > in the boder line case of a planet or cusp position.

> >

> > If data are provided for something different, it can been

> > practically checked, otherwise there is no problem to use any

> > commonly used SW. One can have good faith in the expertise of

the

> > providers.

> >

> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear crk,

> > > Most K.P.-SW's use similar methods to cast a

> > cusp....they also offer a choice of the System and the Ayanamsa

one

> > would like to chose..

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > csrk_q <csrk_q@>

> > >

> > > Sunday, 2 March, 2008 7:13:45 PM

> > > Correctness of horoscope

> > >

> > > I have been studying KP system for quite some time and have

> tested

> > > out many softwares for automaticaly generating the horoscopes.

> > What I

> > > see is that all of them compute the house cusps differently

and

> > the

> > > variation are there for everyonbe to see, though the planetary

> > > position match. Is there a way that one can standardise the

> > horoscope

> > > calculation process with anaccurate placidian table of house,

> > > standardised KP ayanamsa and ephemeris like given in KP reader

1.

> > I

> > > am sure that this will go a long way in progressing this field

> > better.

> > > Anybody out there having similar views please confirm and

guide.

> > >

> > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message

archive

> > online at http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php

> > >

> >

>

March 11, 2008

Dear CSRK,

My understanding from all that I have read is that Shri KSK encouraged doing research and build on his teachings. He also arrived at his conclusions through trial and error and process of elimination. In the same vein, all KP practitioners have evolved theories some of which have been validated and ratified. The ayanamsha's that are currently used have gone through same rigorous scrutiny. Please do your research. There is an abundance of material available in the files section and other sites on the internet, as well as, free KPezine published by Shri Kanak Bosmia.

I would also like to give my counter example to your argument. Since the time, the automobile was invented there has been no dramatic advancement in terms of mechanism i.e. cars still use internal combustion engine, gears, etc, still I do not see any Ford Model T's on the road. One has to be open to change

regards,

enigma

csrk_q <csrk_q

Sat, 8 Mar 2008 7:50 am

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