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if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the cusp.Does

it signify the cusp or the previous house?

 

Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu signify 12

th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

 

Any ideas?

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sir

ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to close

conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house matters also

(According to 4 step also)

With Regards

AMIT

 

 

 

, " murthy_yedebettu "

<geethamurthy wrote:

>

> if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the

cusp.Does

> it signify the cusp or the previous house?

>

> Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu signify

12

> th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

>

> Any ideas?

>

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Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.

 

Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a conflict.

 

While i am at it

 

Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and kuja

qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

 

Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

 

I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not find any

on line.

 

Thanks

 

 

, " dubeyamitkumar "

<dubeyamitkumar wrote:

>

> sir

> ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to close

> conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house matters also

> (According to 4 step also)

> With Regards

> AMIT

>

>

>

> , " murthy_yedebettu "

> <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> >

> > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the

> cusp.Does

> > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> >

> > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu signify

> 12

> > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

>

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Ketu will defenitly signify strongly 12th due to occupation of12

house having posited in own star.I dont think 8 degree conjuction

will work in big way but since ketu is in aries hence it will work

as the agent of mars offcoure.

With REGARDS

AMIT

 

 

 

 

, " murthy_yedebettu "

<geethamurthy wrote:

>

> Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.

>

> Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a conflict.

>

> While i am at it

>

> Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and kuja

> qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

>

> Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

>

> I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not find

any

> on line.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> , " dubeyamitkumar "

> <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> >

> > sir

> > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

close

> > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house matters

also

> > (According to 4 step also)

> > With

Regards

> > AMIT

> >

> >

> >

> > , " murthy_yedebettu "

> > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the

> > cusp.Does

> > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > >

> > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu

signify

> > 12

> > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

> > >

> > > Any ideas?

> > >

> >

>

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dear shri.murthy,

as per 4 step theory the rules for planets on cusp is

1.if there are planets in star of planet then in your case ketu

will signify only 1st house.

2.if there are no planets in star of ketu,then ketu will signify 12 and 1 st house

-sunil gondhalekar

On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is that if a planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that planet becomes the significator of the next house. In the given example,

Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's physically located in the 12th house.2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and 1st houses.3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator of the

house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is supposed to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in the 1st house. 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to strongly

signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction by the 4 step authority is apreciated. 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20 min orb are not supposed to be conjunct.

6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP study, KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik

astroclinic > > cusp.Does> > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

, " murthy_yedebettu "

<geethamurthy wrote:>> Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.> > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a conflict.> > While i am at it

> > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and kuja > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.> > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp. >

> I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not find any> on line.> > Thanks> > > , " dubeyamitkumar "

> <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:> >> > sir> > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to close > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house matters

also> > (According to 4 step also)> > With Regards> > AMIT> > > > > > > > , " murthy_yedebettu "

> > <geethamurthy@> wrote:> > >> > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the > > cusp.Does> > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu signify > > 12> > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?> > > > > > Any ideas?

> > >> >>

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Western astrology considers +_8deg for conjuction.

3.20 seems to be navamsa to me

 

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is that if a

> planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that planet

> becomes the significator of the next house. In the given example,

> Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's

> physically located in the 12th house.

>

> 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and 1st

> houses.

>

> 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator of the

> house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is supposed

> to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in the 1st

> house.

>

> 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to strongly

> signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction by the

> 4 step authority is apreciated.

>

> 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20 min orb

> are not supposed to be conjunct.

>

> 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.

>

> 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP study,

> KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --

>

> Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>

> astroclinic@

>

>

>

> > > cusp.Does

> > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

>

>

>

>

> , " murthy_yedebettu "

> <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> >

> > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.

> >

> > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a conflict.

> >

> > While i am at it

> >

> > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and kuja

> > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

> >

> > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

> >

> > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not find

> any

> > on line.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> > , " dubeyamitkumar "

> > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > sir

> > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

> close

> > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house matters

> also

> > > (According to 4 step also)

> > > With

> Regards

> > > AMIT

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the

> > > cusp.Does

> > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > >

> > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu

> signify

> > > 12

> > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

> > > >

> > > > Any ideas?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Respected Sunilji,

Sir,

Would you please clarify the reasoning behind this rule? Or is it

only based on experience?

regards,

sujatkaram. , " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear shri.murthy,

> as per 4 step theory the rules for planets on cusp is

> 1.if there are planets in star of planet then in your case ketu

> will signify only 1st house.

> 2.if there are no planets in star of ketu,then ketu will signify 12

and 1 st

> house

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is that

if a

> > planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that planet

> > becomes the significator of the next house. In the given example,

> > Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's

> > physically located in the 12th house.

> >

> > 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and 1st

> > houses.

> >

> > 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator of

the

> > house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is supposed

> > to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in the 1st

> > house.

> >

> > 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to

strongly

> > signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction by

the

> > 4 step authority is apreciated.

> >

> > 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20 min

orb

> > are not supposed to be conjunct.

> >

> > 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.

> >

> > 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP

study,

> > KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --

> >

> > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>

> > astroclinic@

> >

> >

> > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> >

> > <%40>,

> > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.

> > >

> > > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a

conflict.

> > >

> > > While i am at it

> > >

> > > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and

kuja

> > > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

> > >

> > > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

> > >

> > > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not

find

> > any

> > > on line.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > " dubeyamitkumar "

> > > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sir

> > > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

> > close

> > > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house

matters

> > also

> > > > (According to 4 step also)

> > > > With

> > Regards

> > > > AMIT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <%

40>,

> > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the

> > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu

> > signify

> > > > 12

> > > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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SunilJI

 

Can you elaborate on change in significance based on the other planets

occupying the star of ketu?

Does having other planet mars in 12 change situation?

 

Or is it rule has to be followed for all the planets on the cusps?

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear shri.murthy,

> as per 4 step theory the rules for planets on cusp is

> 1.if there are planets in star of planet then in your case ketu

> will signify only 1st house.

> 2.if there are no planets in star of ketu,then ketu will signify 12

and 1 st

> house

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is that if a

> > planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that planet

> > becomes the significator of the next house. In the given example,

> > Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's

> > physically located in the 12th house.

> >

> > 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and 1st

> > houses.

> >

> > 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator of the

> > house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is supposed

> > to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in the 1st

> > house.

> >

> > 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to strongly

> > signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction by the

> > 4 step authority is apreciated.

> >

> > 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20 min orb

> > are not supposed to be conjunct.

> >

> > 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.

> >

> > 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP study,

> > KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --

> >

> > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>

> > astroclinic@

> >

> >

> > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> >

> > <%40>,

> > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.

> > >

> > > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a conflict.

> > >

> > > While i am at it

> > >

> > > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and kuja

> > > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

> > >

> > > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

> > >

> > > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not find

> > any

> > > on line.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > > <%40>,

> > " dubeyamitkumar "

> > > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sir

> > > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

> > close

> > > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house matters

> > also

> > > > (According to 4 step also)

> > > > With

> > Regards

> > > > AMIT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <%40>,

> > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the

> > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu

> > signify

> > > > 12

> > > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Re: Maarak and Baadhak sthanams - - References for ORB range

 

Dear Friends,

 

Please note that usually only the next house effect is taken when a

planet is close to the next cusp, except in Four Step both houses

are taken. References for ORB range are given below.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

1. KP Reader IV, 1984, p 108, under " Is Marriage promised? Why is

there Abnormal Delay? "

 

" Rahu is posited in Thula very near the 11 th cusp.----- " (Rahu Li

13-09, XI cusp 15-38-42) ie. 2:30 orb

 

2. Shri Raichur

 

Msg#1590 by Shri Raichur

 

Another Mathmatical correctness is the House Occupied by a

Planet. When the longitude of the Planet is slighly less than that of

the cusp, the Planet is shown, in the previous house (mathematically

correct). But, in actual practice this planet gives results as

though it is in the next house. The star/sub lords will be same as

the next cusp.

 

Msg#2665 by Shri Raichur

 

Technically the Placemnt is strickly according to the degrees of the

planet and the house cusp. However, practical experince shows that

if the planet is very near the cusp, then it gives the results of

the cusp. Mr raichur's SW allows for 3.3 deg (A nakshatra pada)

based on his experience.

 

Msg#9255

 

It is my experience, as well as of Mr Sunil Gondhalekar that when

planets are close to a cusp, they not only give results of the house

they are in, but predominantly of the house to which they are near.

We fixed 3.2 deg as 1/4 of a pada of the nakstra, as an

approximation. I agree we need research on this before we can accept

it as a Rule. But we should not ignore the possibility.

 

3. T. Rajendra Kumar: " Aspects and Orbs in K.P. – New Features " ,

K.P. Year Book 2000, pp 80-83, in an example chart Jupiter is in V

but is very near (just behind/ 57 min only) the VI cusp. It

influenced his service. Even though the VI cuspal sublord is Mars

the native got into teaching. " ORB 1 or 1.5 deg "

 

4. T. Rajendra Kumar, M.COM, GRAD `CWA': " K.P. in Every Corner " by,

KP ANNUAL 2003, p.45-48; in an example Jupiter (in Cp 10-22) is

actually in 5H (6th cusp Cp 11-32), but it signifies 6H as per " ORB

Theory " (which was approved with case presented in magazines

like " KP & Astrlogy " & " The times of Astrlogy " ). If a planet within

1 or 2 deg behind the cusp of a house and no other planet in the

following house, gains the significance of the following house, ie.

Jupiter gains significance of 6H and loses signification of 5H where

Jupiter actually located since there is no planet in 6H.

 

5. C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer: " K.P. Sub is an Endoscope " , KP Year Book

2005, pp 58-62, As Moon is in closed proximity to the II cusp by 5

deg and as this fastest planet offers continued family offered 2 nd

marriage to the native. " ORB 5 deg proximity "

 

6. K. Subramanium: Astrology for Beginner, Vol 3, page 355-8: " 5 or

6 degree " may signify the previous cusp; " 1 or 2 deg " having the

same sublord of the next cusp may signify the next cusp,

(similar to Msg#1590); Considering the planets beyond the limit of

the cusp concerned will make Krishnamurti Padhdhati diverse in

character, lose its image and make it a rigmarole. "

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " murthy_yedebettu "

<geethamurthy wrote:

>

> Western astrology considers +_8deg for conjuction.

> 3.20 seems to be navamsa to me

>

>

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is that

if a

> > planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that

planet

> > becomes the significator of the next house. In the given

example,

> > Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's

> > physically located in the 12th house.

> >

> > 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and 1st

> > houses.

> >

> > 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator of

the

> > house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is

supposed

> > to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in the

1st

> > house.

> >

> > 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to

strongly

> > signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction by

the

> > 4 step authority is apreciated.

> >

> > 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20 min

orb

> > are not supposed to be conjunct.

> >

> > 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.

> >

> > 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP

study,

> > KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --

> >

> > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>

> > astroclinic@

> >

> >

> >

> > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " murthy_yedebettu "

> > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.

> > >

> > > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a

conflict.

> > >

> > > While i am at it

> > >

> > > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and

kuja

> > > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

> > >

> > > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

> > >

> > > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not

find

> > any

> > > on line.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > > , " dubeyamitkumar "

> > > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sir

> > > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

> > close

> > > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house

matters

> > also

> > > > (According to 4 step also)

> > > > With

> > Regards

> > > >

AMIT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the

> > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu

> > signify

> > > > 12

> > > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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dear sujatkaram,

planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSK

and other rules are laid by experience.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 3/5/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Sunilji,Sir,Would you please clarify the reasoning behind this rule? Or is it only based on experience?regards,sujatkaram. , " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:>> dear shri.murthy,> as per 4 step theory the rules for planets on cusp is> 1.if there are planets in star of planet then in your case ketu> will signify only 1st house.

> 2.if there are no planets in star of ketu,then ketu will signify 12 and 1 st> house> -sunil gondhalekar> >

> On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> >> > 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is that if a> > planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that planet

> > becomes the significator of the next house. In the given example,> > Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's> > physically located in the 12th house.> >> > 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and 1st

> > houses.> >> > 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator of the> > house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is supposed> > to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in the 1st

> > house.> >> > 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to strongly> > signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction by the> > 4 step authority is apreciated.

> >> > 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20 min orb> > are not supposed to be conjunct.> >> > 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.

> >> > 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP study,> > KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --> >> > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>

> > astroclinic@> >> >> > > > cusp.Does> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?> >> > <%40>,

> > " murthy_yedebettu " > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:> > >> > > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.> > >> > > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a

conflict.> > >> > > While i am at it> > >> > > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and kuja> > > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

> > >> > > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.> > >> > > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do not find> > any> > > on line.

> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > >> > > <%

40>,> > " dubeyamitkumar " > > > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> > > >> > > > sir> > > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to> > close> > > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house

matters> > also> > > > (According to 4 step also)> > > > With> > Regards> > > > AMIT> > > >> > > >> > > >

> > > > <%40>,

> > " murthy_yedebettu " > > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind the> > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?> > > > >> > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does ketu> > signify> > > > 12

> > > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?> > > > >> > > > > Any ideas?> > > > >> > > >> > >

> >> > > >>

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Dear sunil gondhalekar,

 

Could you kindly provide the reference.

 

> planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSK

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear sujatkaram,

> planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSK

> and other rules are laid by experience.

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 3/5/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sunilji,

> > Sir,

> > Would you please clarify the reasoning behind this rule? Or is it

> > only based on experience?

> > regards,

> > sujatkaram. <%

40>,

> > " sunil gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear shri.murthy,

> > > as per 4 step theory the rules for planets on cusp is

> > > 1.if there are planets in star of planet then in your case ketu

> > > will signify only 1st house.

> > > 2.if there are no planets in star of ketu,then ketu will

signify 12

> > and 1 st

> > > house

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is

that

> > if a

> > > > planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that

planet

> > > > becomes the significator of the next house. In the given

example,

> > > > Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's

> > > > physically located in the 12th house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and

1st

> > > > houses.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator

of

> > the

> > > > house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is

supposed

> > > > to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in

the 1st

> > > > house.

> > > >

> > > > 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to

> > strongly

> > > > signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction

by

> > the

> > > > 4 step authority is apreciated.

> > > >

> > > > 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20

min

> > orb

> > > > are not supposed to be conjunct.

> > > >

> > > > 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.

> > > >

> > > > 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP

> > study,

> > > > KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --

> > > >

> > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>

> > > > astroclinic@

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%40>,

> > > > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.

> > > > >

> > > > > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a

> > conflict.

> > > > >

> > > > > While i am at it

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu

and

> > kuja

> > > > > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

> > > > >

> > > > > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do

not

> > find

> > > > any

> > > > > on line.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>,

> > > > " dubeyamitkumar "

> > > > > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sir

> > > > > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

> > > > close

> > > > > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house

> > matters

> > > > also

> > > > > > (According to 4 step also)

> > > > > > With

> > > > Regards

> > > > > > AMIT

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>,

> > > > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind

the

> > > > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does

ketu

> > > > signify

> > > > > > 12

> > > > > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first

house?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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dear tw ji,

mr.k.m.subramanium,writer of " sublord speaks "

mentioned in one article where planet was in 8th house but

near 9th cusp given higher education to native.he also adds that this will

be debatable point.but no one has debated.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 3/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear sunil gondhalekar,Could you kindly provide the reference.> planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSKThanks and regards,tw

, " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka wrote:

>> dear sujatkaram,> planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSK> and other rules are laid by experience.> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 3/5/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote:

> >> > Respected Sunilji,> > Sir,> > Would you please clarify the reasoning behind this rule? Or is it> > only based on experience?> > regards,> > sujatkaram. <% 40>,> > " sunil gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > >> > > dear shri.murthy,> > > as per 4 step theory the rules for planets on cusp is> > > 1.if there are planets in star of planet then in your case ketu

> > > will signify only 1st house.> > > 2.if there are no planets in star of ketu,then ketu will signify 12> > and 1 st> > > house> > > -sunil gondhalekar> > >

> > >> > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is that> > if a> > > > planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min), that

planet> > > > becomes the significator of the next house. In the given example,> > > > Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though it's> > > > physically located in the 12th house.

> > > >> > > > 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th and 1st> > > > houses.> > > >> > > > 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong significator

of> > the> > > > house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is supposed> > > > to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in the 1st> > > > house.

> > > >> > > > 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed to> > strongly> > > > signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a correction by

> > the> > > > 4 step authority is apreciated.> > > >> > > > 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond 3deg:20 min> > orb> > > > are not supposed to be conjunct.

> > > >> > > > 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of Mars.> > > >> > > > 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For further KP> > study,

> > > > KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --> > > >> > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>> > > > astroclinic@> > > >> > > >

> > > > > > cusp.Does> > > > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?> > > >> > > > <%

40><%40>,> > > > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu sign.> > > > >> > > > > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There ia a

> > conflict.> > > > >> > > > > While i am at it> > > > >> > > > > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between ketu and> > kuja

> > > > > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.> > > > >> > > > > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.> > > > >> > > > > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I do

not> > find> > > > any> > > > > on line.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > <%

40><%> > 40>,

> > > > " dubeyamitkumar " > > > > > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > sir> > > > > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

> > > > close> > > > > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first house> > matters> > > > also> > > > > > (According to 4 step also)

> > > > > > With> > > > Regards> > > > > > AMIT> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > <%

40><%> > 40>,

> > > > " murthy_yedebettu " > > > > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and behind

the> > > > > > cusp.Does> > > > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries, Does

ketu> > > > signify> > > > > > 12> > > > > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first house?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >

>

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Dear sunil gondhalekar ji,

 

Thanks for Shri K.M.Subramaniam's reference, which will be

incoprpoarted in my short note " Conjunction and Signification " (not

a boring long essay) to present shortly.

 

Let me repeat what I'm asking is the reference what you've said

Guruji KSK is supposed to say. If you can't give the reference

you're not supposed to quote so.

 

> > > planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSK

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear tw ji,

> mr.k.m.subramanium,writer of " sublord speaks "

> mentioned in one article where planet was in 8th house but

> near 9th cusp given higher education to native.he also adds that

this will

> be debatable point.but no one has debated.

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 3/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > Dear sunil gondhalekar,

> >

> > Could you kindly provide the reference.

> >

> > > planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSK

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear sujatkaram,

> > > planets on cusp gives the strongest result is said by KSK

> > > and other rules are laid by experience.

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 3/5/08, sujatkaram <sujatkaram@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Sunilji,

> > > > Sir,

> > > > Would you please clarify the reasoning behind this rule? Or

is it

> > > > only based on experience?

> > > > regards,

> > > > sujatkaram. <%

40><%

> >

> > 40>,

> > > > " sunil gondhalekar "

> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear shri.murthy,

> > > > > as per 4 step theory the rules for planets on cusp is

> > > > > 1.if there are planets in star of planet then in your case

ketu

> > > > > will signify only 1st house.

> > > > > 2.if there are no planets in star of ketu,then ketu will

> > signify 12

> > > > and 1 st

> > > > > house

> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. The general finding by many astrologers' experience is

> > that

> > > > if a

> > > > > > planet is close to the next cusp (within 3deg:20 min),

that

> > planet

> > > > > > becomes the significator of the next house. In the given

> > example,

> > > > > > Ketu is supposed to signfy the 1st house, even though

it's

> > > > > > physically located in the 12th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. As per 4 step, Ketu is supposed to signify both 12th

and

> > 1st

> > > > > > houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. If Ketu is in its own star, it is the strong

significator

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > house it occupied. As per the above Orb practice, Ketu is

> > supposed

> > > > > > to strongly signify 1st house as Ketu is assumed as if in

> > the 1st

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. As per 4 step, in my understanding, Ketu is supposed

to

> > > > strongly

> > > > > > signify both 12th and 1st houses. If I'm wrong, a

correction

> > by

> > > > the

> > > > > > 4 step authority is apreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. As per the above Orb practice, two planets beyond

3deg:20

> > min

> > > > orb

> > > > > > are not supposed to be conjunct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6. Ketu is not an agent of Mars to give the result of

Mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7. The interseting questions have been raised. For

further KP

> > > > study,

> > > > > > KP books can be ordered on line from reliable --

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik@>

> > > > > > astroclinic@

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40><%40>,

> > > > > > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ketu is in his own star and no one occupies the ketu

sign.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does ketu signify 1st house strongly or 12th . There

ia a

> > > > conflict.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While i am at it

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars is in meena 26 degrees . does 8 degrees between

ketu

> > and

> > > > kuja

> > > > > > > qualify conjuction? if so will kwtu signify Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Obviously you must have noticed my ignorance about kp.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I can not buy any books here unless they are online. I

do

> > not

> > > > find

> > > > > > any

> > > > > > > on line.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40><%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > " dubeyamitkumar "

> > > > > > > <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sir

> > > > > > > > ketu will be called the occupant of 12 but due to

> > > > > > close

> > > > > > > > conjuction with the ASC It will be taken for first

house

> > > > matters

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > (According to 4 step also)

> > > > > > > > With

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > AMIT

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40><%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > " murthy_yedebettu "

> > > > > > > > <geethamurthy@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > if planet is on a cusp ( with in 3 degrees) and

behind

> > the

> > > > > > > > cusp.Does

> > > > > > > > > it signify the cusp or the previous house?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Like Asc 6degrees Aris and ketu 4degrees aries,

Does

> > ketu

> > > > > > signify

> > > > > > > > 12

> > > > > > > > > th or the ist as it falls in the cusp of the first

> > house?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Any ideas?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Mr.Naidu,

The occupant is always stronger than the owner...

L.Y.Rao.

 

K. P. Naidu <konathalan Sent: Saturday, 8 March, 2008 9:04:19 PMRe: Re: planet on the cusp

 

 

This may mean Occupant is stronger than owner. This is what I understand.

 

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