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While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to my mind- why

starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for signification

while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

 

In some cases I have found that if I take the signification of starlord

of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

 

Regards

 

SUPRAKASH

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dear supraksh,

KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a sub.and asks for

sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4 step theory.

but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord also.then they may call as a separete theory

and not 4 step theory.

-sunil gondhalekar

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While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to my mind- whystarlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for significationwhile in case of sub, star lord is considered?In some cases I have found that if I take the signification of starlord

of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.RegardsSUPRAKASH

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Dear Friends,

 

1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's signification'.

 

2. In contrary,

 

" Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of the results

and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is favvourable or

not. "

Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan 1966, p 41

(Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

 

" This discovery has crowned me with success. "

KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

 

3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from the 'decider' in KP

to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP 4 step' is

not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step' without KP.

 

4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has maintained the role

of SUB as the decider.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear supraksh,

> KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a sub.and asks

for

> sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4 step

theory.

> but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord also.then

they may call

> as a separete theory

> and not 4 step theory.

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

> >

> >

> > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to my

mind- why

> > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for

signification

> > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> >

> > In some cases I have found that if I take the signification of

starlord

> > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > SUPRAKASH

> >

> >

> >

>

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dear members,

pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

one example is given by KSK.he quotes " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna reults.

Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun mostly refers

to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long journey,staying outside,

loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us judge the death of father.

Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What can Jupiter do the 9th house?

What can Jupiter do to 12th house?Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the badhakashtanadhipati to 9,Jupiter

indicates Badhaka to father.

Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the sub of Jupiter in that constellation

indicates danger to father. "

Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's signification'.2. In contrary, " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of the results and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is favvourable or

not. " Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan 1966, p 41 (Rs 25/- for both Volumes) " This discovery has crowned me with success. " KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from the 'decider' in KP to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP 4 step' is not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step' without KP.

4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has maintained the role of SUB as the decider. Regards,tw , " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:>> dear supraksh,> KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a sub.and asks for> sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4 step

theory.> but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord also.then they may call> as a separete theory> and not 4 step theory.> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

> >> >> > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to my mind- why> > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for signification> > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> >> > In some cases I have found that if I take the signification of starlord> > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.> >> > Regards> >> > SUPRAKASH

> >> > > >>

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Dear Friends,

 

This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub Jupiter

is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub Jupiter is

the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star lord

Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and its star

Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from

the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the extension

of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is not KP.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear members,

> pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

> one example is given by KSK.he quotes

> " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna reults.

> Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun mostly

refers

> to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long journey,staying

outside,

> loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us judge the

death of

> father.

> Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What can

Jupiter do the

> 9th house?

> What can Jupiter do to 12th house?

> *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the badhakashtanadhipati

to

> 9,Jupiter*

> *indicates Badhaka to father.*

> *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the sub of

Jupiter in

> that constellation*

> *indicates danger to father. " *

> Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

> thanks

> -sunil gondhalekar

> On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's signification'.

> >

> > 2. In contrary,

> >

> > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of the

results

> > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is favvourable

or

> > not. "

> > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan 1966, p

41

> > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

> >

> > " This discovery has crowned me with success. "

> > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

> >

> > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from the 'decider' in

KP

> > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP 4 step'

is

> > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step' without

KP.

> >

> > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has maintained the

role

> > of SUB as the decider.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear supraksh,

> > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a sub.and

asks

> > for

> > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4 step

> > theory.

> > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord also.then

> > they may call

> > > as a separete theory

> > > and not 4 step theory.

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to my

> > mind- why

> > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for

> > signification

> > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> > > >

> > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the signification

of

> > starlord

> > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > SUPRAKASH

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Shri Gondhalekar,My copy of the 3rd Reader is of August 1984. The paragraph quoted by you does not appear on page 140 in the edition that I have.Can you please give the title of the article in which this text appears? So, I can check whether it is there in the edition that I have.Regards,Sandeep

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1984/old edition, part 1, page 140

2001/ new edition, page 147

 

 

 

, sandeep patel

<sandeeppatel21 wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Gondhalekar,

>

> My copy of the 3rd Reader is of August 1984. The paragraph quoted

by you does not appear on page 140 in the edition that I have.

>

> Can you please give the title of the article in which this text

appears? So, I can check whether it is there in the edition that I

have.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sandeep

>

>

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

Mobile. Try it now.

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also p 140 of KP Reader V

p 84 of KP Reader VI

 

This is the demonstration example in Guruji KSK's crowing of the

discovery of the sub lord as the final deciding factor making him

crowned with success simultaneously in 3 KP Readers III, V & VI, but

not in the origignal KP 2 volumes of 1966.

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> 1984/old edition, part 1, page 140

> 2001/ new edition, page 147

>

>

>

> , sandeep patel

> <sandeeppatel21@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Gondhalekar,

> >

> > My copy of the 3rd Reader is of August 1984. The paragraph

quoted

> by you does not appear on page 140 in the edition that I have.

> >

> > Can you please give the title of the article in which this text

> appears? So, I can check whether it is there in the edition that I

> have.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sandeep

> >

> >

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> Mobile. Try it now.

> >

>

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dear members,

i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means

he has taken sub's signification.

now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make any

difference to me.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub Jupiter is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub Jupiter is the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star lord

Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and its star Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the extension of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is not KP.

Regards,tw , " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear members,> pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)> one example is given by KSK.he quotes> " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna reults.

> Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun mostly refers> to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long journey,staying outside,> loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us judge the

death of> father.> Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What can Jupiter do the> 9th house?> What can Jupiter do to 12th house?> *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the badhakashtanadhipati

to> 9,Jupiter*> *indicates Badhaka to father.*> *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the sub of Jupiter in> that constellation*> *indicates danger to father. " *

> Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.> thanks> -sunil gondhalekar

> On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> >> > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's signification'.

> >> > 2. In contrary,> >> > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of the results> > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is favvourable

or> > not. " > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan 1966, p 41> > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)> >> > " This discovery has crowned me with success. "

> > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41> >> > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from the 'decider' in KP> > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP 4 step'

is> > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step' without KP.> >> > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has maintained the role> > of SUB as the decider.

> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > <%

40>, " sunil > > gondhalekar " > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > >> > > dear supraksh,> > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a sub.and

asks> > for> > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4 step> > theory.> > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord also.then> > they may call

> > > as a separete theory> > > and not 4 step theory.> > > -sunil gondhalekar> > >> > >> > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >> > > >> > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to my> > mind- why> > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for

> > signification> > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?> > > >> > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the signification of> > starlord

> > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > SUPRAKASH> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

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Dear Sunil,

 

Rose by any other name smells as sweet. To me , KP, 4

step, Cuspal intelinks, Khullar are all KP in several forms. The

variations seen cannot fool any one with basic knowledge of KP.

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear members,

> i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means

> he has taken sub's signification.

> now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make any

> difference to me.

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub Jupiter

> > is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub Jupiter is

> > the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star lord

> > Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and its star

> > Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from

> > the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the

extension

> > of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is not KP.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear members,

> > > pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

> > > one example is given by KSK.he quotes

> > > " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna reults.

> > > Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun mostly

> > refers

> > > to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long journey,staying

> > outside,

> > > loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us judge the

> > death of

> > > father.

> > > Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What can

> > Jupiter do the

> > > 9th house?

> > > What can Jupiter do to 12th house?

> > > *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the

badhakashtanadhipati

> > to

> > > 9,Jupiter*

> > > *indicates Badhaka to father.*

> > > *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the sub of

> > Jupiter in

> > > that constellation*

> > > *indicates danger to father. " *

> > > Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

> > > thanks

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's

signification'.

> > > >

> > > > 2. In contrary,

> > > >

> > > > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of the

> > results

> > > > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is

favvourable

> > or

> > > > not. "

> > > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan

1966, p

> > 41

> > > > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

> > > >

> > > > " This discovery has crowned me with success. "

> > > > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

> > > >

> > > > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from the 'decider'

in

> > KP

> > > > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP 4

step'

> > is

> > > > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step' without

> > KP.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has maintained the

> > role

> > > > of SUB as the decider.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>, " sunil

> > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear supraksh,

> > > > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a sub.and

> > asks

> > > > for

> > > > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4 step

> > > > theory.

> > > > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord

also.then

> > > > they may call

> > > > > as a separete theory

> > > > > and not 4 step theory.

> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to

my

> > > > mind- why

> > > > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for

> > > > signification

> > > > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the

signification

> > of

> > > > starlord

> > > > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SUPRAKASH

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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dear satish,

yes,i have planted rose in kp principles named 4step theory.

thousands have accepted it.so i am not worrying for any criticism.

Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 3/9/08, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil,Rose by any other name smells as sweet. To me , KP, 4 step, Cuspal intelinks, Khullar are all KP in several forms. The variations seen cannot fool any one with basic knowledge of KP.

Regards,Satish , " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:>> dear members,> i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means> he has taken sub's signification.> now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make any

> difference to me.> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> >> > This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub Jupiter

> > is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub Jupiter is> > the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star lord> > Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and its star

> > Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from> > the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the extension> > of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is not KP.

> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil> > gondhalekar " > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > >

> > > dear members,> > > pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)> > > one example is given by KSK.he quotes> > > " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna reults.

> > > Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun mostly> > refers> > > to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long journey,staying> > outside,> > > loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us judge the

> > death of> > > father.> > > Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What can> > Jupiter do the> > > 9th house?> > > What can Jupiter do to 12th house?

> > > *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the badhakashtanadhipati> > to> > > 9,Jupiter*> > > *indicates Badhaka to father.*> > > *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the sub of

> > Jupiter in> > > that constellation*> > > *indicates danger to father. " *> > > Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.> > > thanks> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's

signification'.> > > >> > > > 2. In contrary,> > > >> > > > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of the> > results> > > > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is

favvourable> > or> > > > not. " > > > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan 1966, p> > 41> > > > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

> > > >> > > > " This discovery has crowned me with success. " > > > > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41> > > >> > > > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from the 'decider'

in> > KP> > > > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP 4 step'> > is> > > > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step' without

> > KP.> > > >> > > > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has maintained the> > role> > > > of SUB as the decider.> > > >> > > > Regards,

> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > > <%

40><% > > 40>, " sunil> > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear supraksh,> > > > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a sub.and> > asks

> > > > for> > > > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4 step> > > > theory.> > > > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord

also.then> > > > they may call> > > > > as a separete theory> > > > > and not 4 step theory.> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came to

my> > > > mind- why> > > > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered for> > > > signification> > > > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> > > > > >> > > > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the signification> > of> > > > starlord> > > > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > SUPRAKASH> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

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Dear Friends,

 

No one cannot fool this group with sufficient knowledge of KP.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " R Satish " <rsatish1942

wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> Rose by any other name smells as sweet. To me ,

KP, 4

> step, Cuspal intelinks, Khullar are all KP in several forms. The

> variations seen cannot fool any one with basic knowledge of KP.

>

> Regards,

>

> Satish

>

>

>

> , " sunil gondhalekar "

> <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> >

> > dear members,

> > i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means

> > he has taken sub's signification.

> > now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make any

> > difference to me.

> > -sunil gondhalekar

> >

> >

> > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub

Jupiter

> > > is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub

Jupiter is

> > > the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star

lord

> > > Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and its

star

> > > Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from

> > > the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the

> extension

> > > of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is not KP.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>, " sunil

> > > gondhalekar "

> > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear members,

> > > > pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

> > > > one example is given by KSK.he quotes

> > > > " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna

reults.

> > > > Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun

mostly

> > > refers

> > > > to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long journey,staying

> > > outside,

> > > > loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us judge

the

> > > death of

> > > > father.

> > > > Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What can

> > > Jupiter do the

> > > > 9th house?

> > > > What can Jupiter do to 12th house?

> > > > *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the

> badhakashtanadhipati

> > > to

> > > > 9,Jupiter*

> > > > *indicates Badhaka to father.*

> > > > *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the sub

of

> > > Jupiter in

> > > > that constellation*

> > > > *indicates danger to father. " *

> > > > Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

> > > > thanks

> > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's

> signification'.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. In contrary,

> > > > >

> > > > > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of

the

> > > results

> > > > > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is

> favvourable

> > > or

> > > > > not. "

> > > > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan

> 1966, p

> > > 41

> > > > > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

> > > > >

> > > > > " This discovery has crowned me with success. "

> > > > > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from

the 'decider'

> in

> > > KP

> > > > > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP 4

> step'

> > > is

> > > > > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step'

without

> > > KP.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has maintained

the

> > > role

> > > > > of SUB as the decider.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

> 40><%

> > > 40>, " sunil

> > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear supraksh,

> > > > > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a

sub.and

> > > asks

> > > > > for

> > > > > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in 4

step

> > > > > theory.

> > > > > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord

> also.then

> > > > > they may call

> > > > > > as a separete theory

> > > > > > and not 4 step theory.

> > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question came

to

> my

> > > > > mind- why

> > > > > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not considered

for

> > > > > signification

> > > > > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the

> signification

> > > of

> > > > > starlord

> > > > > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SUPRAKASH

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear sunil gondhalekar,

 

Here you say

 

Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

 

but not in your website.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

Profile

 

Mechanical engineer by profession. Started study of vedic astrology

from 1970.Get in touch with Late Jyotindra Hasbe somewhere in 1979

and attracted with Krishnamurti Method widely known as KP Method.

Started Study of KP Method and were getting very fantastic results

about predictions. While studying this method I have found some

discrepancies in method and then started more research. Research

gives a good clue and developed some rules to get correct

predictions. This new method was named as " 4 step theory "

 

Now this theory is very popular in Maharashtra. Now I am known as a

Pioneer in the field. Started half-yearly astrological magazine

after demise of my guru, Jyotindra Hasbe from 1993

named " Nakshtrache Dene " in marathi language.It is getting more

popularity till date. To get more advantage to students distance

learning course on " 4 step theory " was introduced from 1996.Till

date this course is studied by more Than 1500 students and enjoying

the fruits. Conducted seminars on 4 step theory in various cities

like Mumbai, Thane, Nagpur, Sangli, Pune,Surat,Dombivli,Belgaum.

This crosses about 20 seminars. Written and published own books in

marathi 1.Vivah Yoga 2.Nakshtra Sandesh 3.Nakstra Prabha. These

books are very popular in the field. Written articles in various

astrological magazines. Honoured by many titles like " Jyotish

Alankar " , " Jyotish Maharshi " Awarded many titles by astrological

institute like " Mandashri Puraskar " from Pune. Recently medal

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear satish,

> yes,i have planted rose in kp principles named 4step theory.

> thousands have accepted it.so i am not worrying for any criticism.

> Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 3/9/08, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sunil,

> >

> > Rose by any other name smells as sweet. To me , KP, 4

> > step, Cuspal intelinks, Khullar are all KP in several forms. The

> > variations seen cannot fool any one with basic knowledge of KP.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Satish

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear members,

> > > i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means

> > > he has taken sub's signification.

> > > now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make any

> > > difference to me.

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub

Jupiter

> > > > is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub

Jupiter is

> > > > the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star

lord

> > > > Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and

its star

> > > > Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from

> > > > the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the

> > extension

> > > > of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is not KP.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>, " sunil

> > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear members,

> > > > > pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

> > > > > one example is given by KSK.he quotes

> > > > > " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna

reults.

> > > > > Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun

mostly

> > > > refers

> > > > > to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long

journey,staying

> > > > outside,

> > > > > loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us judge

the

> > > > death of

> > > > > father.

> > > > > Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What

can

> > > > Jupiter do the

> > > > > 9th house?

> > > > > What can Jupiter do to 12th house?

> > > > > *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the

> > badhakashtanadhipati

> > > > to

> > > > > 9,Jupiter*

> > > > > *indicates Badhaka to father.*

> > > > > *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the

sub of

> > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > that constellation*

> > > > > *indicates danger to father. " *

> > > > > Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's

> > signification'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. In contrary,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of

the

> > > > results

> > > > > > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is

> > favvourable

> > > > or

> > > > > > not. "

> > > > > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan

> > 1966, p

> > > > 41

> > > > > > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " This discovery has crowned me with success. "

> > > > > > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from

the 'decider'

> > in

> > > > KP

> > > > > > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and using 'KP

4

> > step'

> > > > is

> > > > > > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step'

without

> > > > KP.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has

maintained the

> > > > role

> > > > > > of SUB as the decider.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40><%

> > > > 40>, " sunil

> > > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear supraksh,

> > > > > > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a

sub.and

> > > > asks

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in

4 step

> > > > > > theory.

> > > > > > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord

> > also.then

> > > > > > they may call

> > > > > > > as a separete theory

> > > > > > > and not 4 step theory.

> > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question

came to

> > my

> > > > > > mind- why

> > > > > > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not

considered for

> > > > > > signification

> > > > > > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the

> > signification

> > > > of

> > > > > > starlord

> > > > > > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SUPRAKASH

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Respected TW ji

 

In your message #15397 dated Jan 3,2008 you advised that " the member

is supposed not to make this forum unpleasent with your non-

astrological personal matters " . Looking at your posting in message #

16761 it seems that this is not applicable to respectable senior

member like you.

 

With regards

 

Subhash Ektare

 

 

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear sunil gondhalekar,

>

> Here you say

>

> Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

>

> but not in your website.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

>

>

> Profile

>

> Mechanical engineer by profession. Started study of vedic astrology

> from 1970.Get in touch with Late Jyotindra Hasbe somewhere in 1979

> and attracted with Krishnamurti Method widely known as KP Method.

> Started Study of KP Method and were getting very fantastic results

> about predictions. While studying this method I have found some

> discrepancies in method and then started more research. Research

> gives a good clue and developed some rules to get correct

> predictions. This new method was named as " 4 step theory "

>

> Now this theory is very popular in Maharashtra. Now I am known as a

> Pioneer in the field. Started half-yearly astrological magazine

> after demise of my guru, Jyotindra Hasbe from 1993

> named " Nakshtrache Dene " in marathi language.It is getting more

> popularity till date. To get more advantage to students distance

> learning course on " 4 step theory " was introduced from 1996.Till

> date this course is studied by more Than 1500 students and enjoying

> the fruits. Conducted seminars on 4 step theory in various cities

> like Mumbai, Thane, Nagpur, Sangli, Pune,Surat,Dombivli,Belgaum.

> This crosses about 20 seminars. Written and published own books in

> marathi 1.Vivah Yoga 2.Nakshtra Sandesh 3.Nakstra Prabha. These

> books are very popular in the field. Written articles in various

> astrological magazines. Honoured by many titles like " Jyotish

> Alankar " , " Jyotish Maharshi " Awarded many titles by astrological

> institute like " Mandashri Puraskar " from Pune. Recently medal

>

>

> , " sunil gondhalekar "

> <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> >

> > dear satish,

> > yes,i have planted rose in kp principles named 4step theory.

> > thousands have accepted it.so i am not worrying for any criticism.

> > Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

> > -sunil gondhalekar

> >

> >

> > On 3/9/08, R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil,

> > >

> > > Rose by any other name smells as sweet. To me , KP, 4

> > > step, Cuspal intelinks, Khullar are all KP in several forms. The

> > > variations seen cannot fool any one with basic knowledge of KP.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Satish

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>, " sunil

> > > gondhalekar "

> > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear members,

> > > > i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means

> > > > he has taken sub's signification.

> > > > now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make any

> > > > difference to me.

> > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub

> Jupiter

> > > > > is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub

> Jupiter is

> > > > > the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star

> lord

> > > > > Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and

> its star

> > > > > Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from

> > > > > the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the

> > > extension

> > > > > of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is not

KP.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

> 40><%

> > > 40>, " sunil

> > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear members,

> > > > > > pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

> > > > > > one example is given by KSK.he quotes

> > > > > > " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna

> reults.

> > > > > > Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence Sun

> mostly

> > > > > refers

> > > > > > to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long

> journey,staying

> > > > > outside,

> > > > > > loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us

judge

> the

> > > > > death of

> > > > > > father.

> > > > > > Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's sub.What

> can

> > > > > Jupiter do the

> > > > > > 9th house?

> > > > > > What can Jupiter do to 12th house?

> > > > > > *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the

> > > badhakashtanadhipati

> > > > > to

> > > > > > 9,Jupiter*

> > > > > > *indicates Badhaka to father.*

> > > > > > *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then the

> sub of

> > > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > > that constellation*

> > > > > > *indicates danger to father. " *

> > > > > > Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's

> > > signification'.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. In contrary,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature

of

> the

> > > > > results

> > > > > > > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is

> > > favvourable

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > not. "

> > > > > > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan

> > > 1966, p

> > > > > 41

> > > > > > > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " This discovery has crowned me with success. "

> > > > > > > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from

> the 'decider'

> > > in

> > > > > KP

> > > > > > > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and

using 'KP

> 4

> > > step'

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4 step'

> without

> > > > > KP.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has

> maintained the

> > > > > role

> > > > > > > of SUB as the decider.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%

> 40><%

> > > 40><%

> > > > > 40>, " sunil

> > > > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear supraksh,

> > > > > > > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a

> sub.and

> > > > > asks

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in

> 4 step

> > > > > > > theory.

> > > > > > > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord

> > > also.then

> > > > > > > they may call

> > > > > > > > as a separete theory

> > > > > > > > and not 4 step theory.

> > > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one question

> came to

> > > my

> > > > > > > mind- why

> > > > > > > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not

> considered for

> > > > > > > signification

> > > > > > > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the

> > > signification

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > starlord

> > > > > > > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SUPRAKASH

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Subhash Ektare ji,

 

This is an astrological matter relating to Guruji KSK, not personal,

which I'm not interseted.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " Subhash " <subhash_ektare

wrote:

>

> Respected TW ji

>

> In your message #15397 dated Jan 3,2008 you advised that " the

member

> is supposed not to make this forum unpleasent with your non-

> astrological personal matters " . Looking at your posting in

message #

> 16761 it seems that this is not applicable to respectable senior

> member like you.

>

> With regards

>

> Subhash Ektare

>

>

>

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear sunil gondhalekar,

> >

> > Here you say

> >

> > Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

> >

> > but not in your website.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> >

> >

> > Profile

> >

> > Mechanical engineer by profession. Started study of vedic

astrology

> > from 1970.Get in touch with Late Jyotindra Hasbe somewhere in

1979

> > and attracted with Krishnamurti Method widely known as KP

Method.

> > Started Study of KP Method and were getting very fantastic

results

> > about predictions. While studying this method I have found some

> > discrepancies in method and then started more research. Research

> > gives a good clue and developed some rules to get correct

> > predictions. This new method was named as " 4 step theory "

> >

> > Now this theory is very popular in Maharashtra. Now I am known

as a

> > Pioneer in the field. Started half-yearly astrological magazine

> > after demise of my guru, Jyotindra Hasbe from 1993

> > named " Nakshtrache Dene " in marathi language.It is getting more

> > popularity till date. To get more advantage to students distance

> > learning course on " 4 step theory " was introduced from 1996.Till

> > date this course is studied by more Than 1500 students and

enjoying

> > the fruits. Conducted seminars on 4 step theory in various

cities

> > like Mumbai, Thane, Nagpur, Sangli, Pune,Surat,Dombivli,Belgaum.

> > This crosses about 20 seminars. Written and published own books

in

> > marathi 1.Vivah Yoga 2.Nakshtra Sandesh 3.Nakstra Prabha. These

> > books are very popular in the field. Written articles in various

> > astrological magazines. Honoured by many titles like " Jyotish

> > Alankar " , " Jyotish Maharshi " Awarded many titles by astrological

> > institute like " Mandashri Puraskar " from Pune. Recently medal

> >

> >

> > , " sunil gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear satish,

> > > yes,i have planted rose in kp principles named 4step theory.

> > > thousands have accepted it.so i am not worrying for any

criticism.

> > > Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 3/9/08, R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil,

> > > >

> > > > Rose by any other name smells as sweet. To me , KP, 4

> > > > step, Cuspal intelinks, Khullar are all KP in several forms.

The

> > > > variations seen cannot fool any one with basic knowledge of

KP.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Satish

> > > >

> > > > <%

> > 40>, " sunil

> > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear members,

> > > > > i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means

> > > > > he has taken sub's signification.

> > > > > now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make

any

> > > > > difference to me.

> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of

sub

> > Jupiter

> > > > > > is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub

> > Jupiter is

> > > > > > the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and

star

> > lord

> > > > > > Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun

and

> > its star

> > > > > > Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from

> > > > > > the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the

> > > > extension

> > > > > > of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is

not

> KP.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

> > 40><%

> > > > 40>, " sunil

> > > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear members,

> > > > > > > pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

> > > > > > > one example is given by KSK.he quotes

> > > > > > > " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives

lagna

> > reults.

> > > > > > > Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence

Sun

> > mostly

> > > > > > refers

> > > > > > > to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long

> > journey,staying

> > > > > > outside,

> > > > > > > loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us

> judge

> > the

> > > > > > death of

> > > > > > > father.

> > > > > > > Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's

sub.What

> > can

> > > > > > Jupiter do the

> > > > > > > 9th house?

> > > > > > > What can Jupiter do to 12th house?

> > > > > > > *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the

> > > > badhakashtanadhipati

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > 9,Jupiter*

> > > > > > > *indicates Badhaka to father.*

> > > > > > > *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then

the

> > sub of

> > > > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > > > that constellation*

> > > > > > > *indicates danger to father. " *

> > > > > > > Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's

> > > > signification'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. In contrary,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates

nature

> of

> > the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is

> > > > favvourable

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > not. "

> > > > > > > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication,

Jan

> > > > 1966, p

> > > > > > 41

> > > > > > > > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " This discovery has crowned me with success. "

> > > > > > > > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from

> > the 'decider'

> > > > in

> > > > > > KP

> > > > > > > > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and

> using 'KP

> > 4

> > > > step'

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4

step'

> > without

> > > > > > KP.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has

> > maintained the

> > > > > > role

> > > > > > > > of SUB as the decider.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <%

> > 40><%

> > > > 40><%

> > > > > > 40>, " sunil

> > > > > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear supraksh,

> > > > > > > > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as

a

> > sub.and

> > > > > > asks

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered

in

> > 4 step

> > > > > > > > theory.

> > > > > > > > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's

starlord

> > > > also.then

> > > > > > > > they may call

> > > > > > > > > as a separete theory

> > > > > > > > > and not 4 step theory.

> > > > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one

question

> > came to

> > > > my

> > > > > > > > mind- why

> > > > > > > > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not

> > considered for

> > > > > > > > signification

> > > > > > > > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the

> > > > signification

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > starlord

> > > > > > > > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > SUPRAKASH

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I would request all senior member to move on and stop this thread. Please no more posting on this thread, this topic is becoming personal.

 

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Punit Pandey

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Dear Subhash Ektare ji,This is an astrological matter relating to Guruji KSK, not personal, which I'm not interseted. Regards,tw , " Subhash " <subhash_ektare

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>> Respected TW ji> > In your message #15397 dated Jan 3,2008 you advised that " the member> is supposed not to make this forum unpleasent with your non-

> astrological personal matters " . Looking at your posting in message # > 16761 it seems that this is not applicable to respectable senior > member like you.> > With regards>

> Subhash Ektare> > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:> >

> > Dear sunil gondhalekar,> > > > Here you say> > > > Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.> > > > but not in your website.> > > > Regards,

> > > > tw> > > > > > > > Profile > > > > Mechanical engineer by profession. Started study of vedic astrology > > from 1970.Get in touch with Late Jyotindra Hasbe somewhere in

1979 > > and attracted with Krishnamurti Method widely known as KP Method. > > Started Study of KP Method and were getting very fantastic results > > about predictions. While studying this method I have found some

> > discrepancies in method and then started more research. Research > > gives a good clue and developed some rules to get correct > > predictions. This new method was named as " 4 step theory "

> > > > Now this theory is very popular in Maharashtra. Now I am known as a > > Pioneer in the field. Started half-yearly astrological magazine > > after demise of my guru, Jyotindra Hasbe from 1993

> > named " Nakshtrache Dene " in marathi language.It is getting more > > popularity till date. To get more advantage to students distance > > learning course on " 4 step theory " was introduced from 1996.Till

> > date this course is studied by more Than 1500 students and enjoying > > the fruits. Conducted seminars on 4 step theory in various cities > > like Mumbai, Thane, Nagpur, Sangli, Pune,Surat,Dombivli,Belgaum.

> > This crosses about 20 seminars. Written and published own books in > > marathi 1.Vivah Yoga 2.Nakshtra Sandesh 3.Nakstra Prabha. These > > books are very popular in the field. Written articles in various

> > astrological magazines. Honoured by many titles like " Jyotish > > Alankar " , " Jyotish Maharshi " Awarded many titles by astrological > > institute like " Mandashri Puraskar " from Pune. Recently medal

> > > > > > , " sunil gondhalekar " > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > >

> > > dear satish,> > > yes,i have planted rose in kp principles named 4step theory.> > > thousands have accepted it.so i am not worrying for any criticism.> > > Pranam to KSK which is my Manas Guru.

> > > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > > > > > > On 3/9/08, R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil,

> > > >> > > > Rose by any other name smells as sweet. To me , KP, 4> > > > step, Cuspal intelinks, Khullar are all KP in several forms. The> > > > variations seen cannot fool any one with basic knowledge of

KP.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Satish> > > >> > > > <%

> > 40>, " sunil> > > > gondhalekar " > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > > > >

> > > > > dear members,> > > > > i have shown you that KSK has used sub's star that means> > > > > he has taken sub's signification.> > > > > now whether this is 4 step or kp or anything doesnt make

any> > > > > difference to me.> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > >> > > > > > This is KP not KP 4 step. Here the star lord Saturn of sub > > Jupiter

> > > > > > is consindered to know what the sub can do, and the sub > > Jupiter is> > > > > > the " deciding " factor. In 4 step these sub Jupiter and star

> > lord> > > > > > Saturn are taken as significators like the planet Sun and > > its star> > > > > > Moon. It's the revision of the KP coner stone sub from

> > > > > > the " deciding " factor to the significators. It's said the> > > > extension> > > > > > of KP but it's found the revision of KP. So 4 step is

not > KP.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > tw> > > > > >> > > > > > <%

> > 40><%> > > > 40>, " sunil> > > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear members,> > > > > > > pl.refer page no.140 of 3rd reader(july 1981 edition)

> > > > > > > one example is given by KSK.he quotes> > > > > > > " There is no planets in Sun's star.Hence Sun gives lagna > > reults.> > > > > > > Sun is in Moon's star.Moon is in 9 and owns 12.Hence

Sun > > mostly> > > > > > refers> > > > > > > to the matters signified by 9 and 12.i.e.long > > journey,staying> > > > > > outside,

> > > > > > > loss of father,permanent possession of father.Let us > judge > > the> > > > > > death of> > > > > > > father.> > > > > > > Note the sub occupied by Sun.It is in Jupiter's

sub.What > > can> > > > > > Jupiter do the> > > > > > > 9th house?> > > > > > > What can Jupiter do to 12th house?> > > > > > > *Jupiter is in Saturn's star.As Saturn is the

> > > > badhakashtanadhipati> > > > > > to> > > > > > > 9,Jupiter*> > > > > > > *indicates Badhaka to father.*> > > > > > > *Therefore if a constellation indicates father,then

the > > sub of> > > > > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > that constellation*> > > > > > > *indicates danger to father. " *> > > > > > > Now you decide whether this is KP or a kp 4step.

> > > > > > > thanks> > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > > > > On 3/4/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Guruji KSK has never ever nowhere asked 'sub's> > > > signification'.

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2. In contrary,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > " Planet is the source, constellation indicates

nature > of > > the> > > > > > results> > > > > > > > and the SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is> > > > favvourable> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > not. " > > > > > > > > Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan> > > > 1966, p> > > > > > 41

> > > > > > > > (Rs 25/- for both Volumes)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > " This discovery has crowned me with success. " > > > > > > > > KP Reader III p. 137/ , V p.137 & VI p.41

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 3. 4 step has revised the role of the SUB from > > the 'decider'> > > > in> > > > > > KP

> > > > > > > > to the 'significator'. So 4 step is NOT KP and > using 'KP > > 4> > > > step'> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > not appropriate and it should be used his own '4

step' > > without> > > > > > KP.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 4. Sub Lord Speaks author K.M. Subramaniam has > > maintained the

> > > > > > role> > > > > > > > of SUB as the decider.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > <%

> > 40><%> > > > 40><%

> > > > > > 40>, " sunil> > > > > > > > gondhalekar " > > > > > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dear supraksh,> > > > > > > > > KSK has divided nakshtra in 9 parts and called as a > > sub.and

> > > > > > asks> > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > sub's signification hence sub's star is considered in > > 4 step> > > > > > > > theory.

> > > > > > > > > but some astrologers looks into star lord's starlord> > > > also.then> > > > > > > > they may call> > > > > > > > > as a separete theory

> > > > > > > > > and not 4 step theory.> > > > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 3/1/08, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > While going deep in to 4step theory, one

question > > came to> > > > my> > > > > > > > mind- why> > > > > > > > > > starlord of the starlord of a planet is not > > considered for

> > > > > > > > signification> > > > > > > > > > while in case of sub, star lord is considered?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In some cases I have found that if I take the

> > > > signification> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > starlord> > > > > > > > > > of the starlord, a more clear picture emerges.

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > SUPRAKASH

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

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