Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 ranganji,rp @ judgement 14-02-2008, 06:02asc : sun , ket , ketmoon : ven sun merday : jupas moon is neither in rp nor aspected by any RP CANCER ASC IS TO BE RULED OUT. AT the time of time of your birth mer is asc sign lord jupiter is asc star lord.now as sun is repeated twice(and also powerfully aspecting asc) and ven is also in sun star and jupiter subi select sun is to be your asc sublord and ket is the sub-sub lord.and tob comes to be 10:36:35 am1)spotaneously at the time of this analysis my neighbour asked me to see a horoscope.his ascendent is in leo sun,ket,mer.and his moon in sat,jup,mer.born on monday. note: ( mer is powerful than moon.){26-06-1978@10:10HRS 16.14N ,80.38E }THATS WHAT OUR GURUJI SAID IN 6TH READER IN THE CASE OF "MISSING SON". THE RP OF THE PERSON /HOROSCOPE PRESENTED AT THE TIME OF YOUR ANALYSIS TALLIES WITH YOUR FINDING . (OFCOURSE IT SHOULD BE SPONTANEOUS)learned members should say if am wrong with regards....................jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote: Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Dear Rangan, You have forgotten to mention A.M or P.M. If it is AM it should have been written as 1025 hrs,if PM it should have been 2225 hrs... In future kindly be explicit to expedite matters as well as offer clarity... L.Y.Rao. jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan Sent: Thursday, 14 February, 2008 3:35:13 PM rectification of birtth time Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Sir You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement when you are going to do the BTR. In Ruling planets you take Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. Match them with the time of birth i.e., Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be concluded. Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related. Check the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP rules. Then you can conclude the tob. May be this is little bit of enormous work. Regards MK Viswanath jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote: Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Dear Mr.L.Y.Rao! Thank you for your response.It is indeed 10.25 A.M Regards Jammalamadugu RanganYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Rangan, You have forgotten to mention A.M or P.M. If it is AM it should have been written as 1025 hrs,if PM it should have been 2225 hrs... In future kindly be explicit to expedite matters as well as offer clarity... L.Y.Rao. jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan > Sent: Thursday, 14 February, 2008 3:35:13 PM rectification of birtth time Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Dear sri Viswanth Garu, Match the RP Asc sgl, stl, sbl and ssbl with the natal asc sgl, stl, sbl and ssbl, required clarification. whether they should be same planets or there should be connectivity/linkage. Again in connectivity/linkage whether conjunction and aspect within 3deg 20 mts also to be considered. Kindly clarify. KP naiduK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Based on the analysis below I tried a feable attempt to correct my birth time Please guide me if i am right birth: 058AM jul 6th 1958 at karimnagar AP Time tried to do time rect 2.00pm 6th mar 2008 at des moines IA USA. birth : asc : mars ketu rahu moon; sat rahu ketu day : sun Time of rect: asc: jup ket ven moon: sat rah sat day : jup Astonishingly moon is almost same in both mar is being aspected by jup in the time of rec chart ( not exact 180deg but by rasi) i decide to keep mar as my asc. asc star is same in both i am leaving it. However here is the doubt: birth asc sublord rah is in rp's and close conj to ven should i leave it as it or should i take jup for asc sub lord as jup is twice in rp's and in asc and make ven as sub sub lord??? well i tried to make jup as sub and venus as sub sub and came up with 1:02AM Please guide me how to confirm if this correct or not. , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > ranganji, > > rp @ judgement 14-02-2008, 06:02 > > asc : sun , ket , ket > moon : ven sun mer > day : jup > > as moon is neither in rp nor aspected by any RP CANCER ASC IS TO BE RULED OUT. > > AT the time of time of your birth mer is asc sign lord jupiter is asc star lord. > now as sun is repeated twice(and also powerfully aspecting asc) and ven is also in sun star and jupiter sub > i select sun is to be your asc sublord and ket is the sub-sub lord. > and tob comes to be 10:36:35 am > > 1)spotaneously at the time of this analysis my neighbour asked me to see > a horoscope.his ascendent is in leo sun,ket,mer.and his moon in sat,jup,mer. > born on monday. note: ( mer is powerful than moon.) > {26-06-1978@10:10HRS 16.14N ,80.38E } > > > THATS WHAT OUR GURUJI SAID IN 6TH READER IN THE CASE OF " MISSING SON " . THE RP OF THE PERSON /HOROSCOPE PRESENTED AT THE TIME OF YOUR ANALYSIS TALLIES WITH YOUR FINDING . (OFCOURSE IT SHOULD BE SPONTANEOUS) > > learned members should say if am wrong with regards.................... > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote: > Dear all! > I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. > I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I thought to seek advice of the members. > Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. > Time approx.10.25min. > Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) > Thanking you, > Jammalamadugu rangan > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear sri Viswanath Ji,Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord, totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ? or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4 planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in any way ?I request your kind clarification.Regards,Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nair wrote:MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nairRe: rectification of birtth time Date: Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM Sir You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement when you are going to do the BTR. In Ruling planets you take Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. Match them with the time of birth i.e., Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be concluded. Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related. Check the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP rules. Then you can conclude the tob. May be this is little bit of enormous work. Regards MK Viswanath jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dear Naiduji, Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to explain properly. Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any sense. Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves. regards, Bhaskar. , "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan wrote:>> Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord, totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ? or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4 planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in any way ?> > I request your kind clarification.> > Regards,> > Naidu KP> > > > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair wrote:> MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair Re: rectification of birtth time> > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time of birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP rules.  Then you can conclude the tob.  > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK Viswanath > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan  > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://in.messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dear Sirs, Pranams to all.RP, whether 5 or 9, who is totally very successful in using them?RPs do contribute equally for both success and failure in interpreting charts in KP system. In my opinion, unless anyone considers a RP chart wholly, he may not get guidancethrough RPs. Be reasonable or judicious in using them.Let us talk more about this.MOHAN KUMAR.R. (KP-MK Formula)--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: rectification of birtth time Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 4:09 PM Dear Naiduji, Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to explain properly. Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any sense. Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves. regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@. ...> wrote:>> Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord, totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ? or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4 planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in any way ?> > I request your kind clarification.> > Regards,> > Naidu KP> > > > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair wrote:> MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair Re: rectification of birtth time> @gro ups.com> Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time of birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP rules.  Then you can conclude the tob.  > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK Viswanath > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time.. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan  > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://in.messenger ./ invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dear all, The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, time and space. Regards, tw REFERENCES 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833 2) " It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that these will change, when same chart is studies by number of astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in page 2 of the " Four Step Theory " 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's " Secrets of RP & the Birth Time " ,1999, pp 94-96. 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group) , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Naiduji, > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to > explain properly. > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any sense. > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@> wrote: > > > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji, > > > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord, > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ? > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ? > > > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4 > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in > any way ? > > > > I request your kind clarification. > > > > Regards, > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > Nowroji Road, > > Maharanipeta, > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@ wrote: > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@ > > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time of > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob.  > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK Viswanath > > > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan  > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://in.messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dear Mohan Kumar ji, I agree with you. Mathematizing the RPs in terms of number is just a way of simplifying the application. Though using RP chart is ideal, but very difficult to apply. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology wrote: Dear Sirs, Pranams to all.RP, whether 5 or 9, who is totally very successful in using them?RPs do contribute equally for both success and failure in interpreting charts in KP system. In my opinion, unless anyone considers a RP chart wholly, he may not get guidance through RPs. Be reasonable or judicious in using them.Let us talk more about this.MOHAN KUMAR.R. (KP-MK Formula)--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: rectification of birtth time Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 4:09 PM Dear Naiduji, Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to explain properly. Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any sense. Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves. regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@. ...> wrote:>> Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord, totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ? or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4 planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in any way ? > > I request your kind clarification.> > Regards,> > Naidu KP> > > > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta, > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair wrote:> MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair Re: rectification of birtth time > @gro ups.com > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time of birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP rules.  Then you can conclude the tob.  > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK Viswanath > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth time.. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard. This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of Cancer) has been challenging ,so I > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan  > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://in.messenger ./ invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear TW ji, So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it. What matters is urge.Urge is a function of "Guna influence" on mind. RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing. What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation. Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it. I am sure it will be good learning experience. with best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS ----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - tw853 Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM Re: rectification of birtth time Dear all,The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, time and space.Regards,twREFERENCES1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #148332) "It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that these will change, when same chart is studies by number of astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in page 2 of the "Four Step Theory"3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's "Secrets of RP & the Birth Time",1999, pp 94-96. 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group) , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Naiduji,> > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to> explain properly.> > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any sense.> Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@> wrote:> >> > Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> >> > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub> and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord,> totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc> 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord).> > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ?> or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> >> > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4> planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4> planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in> any way ?> >> > I request your kind clarification.> >> > Regards,> >> > Naidu KP> >> >> >> >> > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> >> > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@ wrote:> > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@> > Re: rectification of birtth time> > > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement> when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc> sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star,> sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time of> birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way> for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be> concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check> the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP> rules.  Then you can conclude the tob. Â> > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK Viswanath> >> > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear> all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth> time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard.> This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult> since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of> Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May> nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli> (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Â> >> > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> >> >> >> > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://in.messenger./invite/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 , " swami " <swami wrote: > > Dear all members, Swamis idea is an excellent option. With a given 2 charts ask the members from various places to DO BTR at a specified time which can be fixed for a acceptable time to work on the 1st chart and let the same people do the BTR for the 2nd chart with thier convenience with in stipulated period of 48 hours. If all the resuts are tabulated may give an new opening on this front. regards > || Om Gurave Namah || > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah > Hari Om, > Dear TW ji, > So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it. > What matters is urge.Urge is a function of " Guna influence " on mind. > RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing. > What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation. > Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it. > I am sure it will be good learning experience. > with best wishes. > > OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > Swami_RCS > ---------------------- > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > - - > > - > tw853 > > Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > Dear all, > > The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, > time and space. > > Regards, > > tw > > REFERENCES > > 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the > place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833 > 2) " It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, > time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that > these will change, when same chart is studies by number of > astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in > page 2 of the " Four Step Theory " > 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi > (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) > 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same > BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's " Secrets of > RP & the Birth Time " ,1999, pp 94-96. > 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful > chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, > 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group) > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Naiduji, > > > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to > > explain properly. > > > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any > sense. > > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji, > > > > > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, > star, sub > > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day > lord, > > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 > planets (asc > > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). > > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 > planets ? > > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ? > > > > > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 > > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL > 4 > > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or > connection in > > any way ? > > > > > > I request your kind clarification. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > Nowroji Road, > > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@ wrote: > > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@ > > > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > > > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of > judgement > > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc > > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, > star, > > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time > of > > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way > > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. >  > > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be > > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check > > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per > KP > > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob.  > > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK > Viswanath > > > > > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: > Dear > > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of > birth > > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this > regard. > > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become > difficult > > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of > > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I > > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May > > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth > Tiruchirappalli > > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan  > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://in.messenger./invite/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dear Swami In my experience I accept the views of Mr.Tin Win and the references shown. “The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, time and space.” Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 8/14/08, swami <swami wrote: swami <swamiRe: Re: rectification of birtth time Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 9:22 AM || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear TW ji, So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it. What matters is urge.Urge is a function of "Guna influence" on mind. RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing. What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation. Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it. I am sure it will be good learning experience. with best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - tw853 @gro ups.com Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM Re: rectification of birtth time Dear all,The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, time and space.Regards,twREFERENCES1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #148332) "It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that these will change, when same chart is studies by number of astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in page 2 of the "Four Step Theory"3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's "Secrets of RP & the Birth Time",1999, pp 94-96. 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group)@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Naiduji,> > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to> explain properly.> > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any sense.> Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ > wrote:> >> > Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> >> > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub> and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord,> totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc> 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord).> > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ?> or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> >> > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4> planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4> planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in> any way ?> >> > I request your kind clarification.> >> > Regards,> >> > Naidu KP> >> >> >> >> > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> >> > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ wrote:> > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@> > Re: rectification of birtth time> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement> when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc> sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star,> sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time of> birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way> for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be> concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check> the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP> rules.  Then you can conclude the tob. Â> > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK Viswanath> >> > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear> all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth> time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard.> This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult> since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of> Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May> nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli> (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Â> >> > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> >> >> >> > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://in.messenger ./ invite/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Dear Swami ji, 1. If RPs are changing, the BTR based on RPs will also be different by common sense without a world wide exercise, and then which one will be reliable?. 2. When one time the simulation of RPs were supposed to run by a high speed computer, it was said that a personal strong urge is needed to get the correct answer. Thanks and regards, tw , " swami " <swami wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah > Hari Om, > Dear TW ji, > So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it. > What matters is urge.Urge is a function of " Guna influence " on mind. > RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing. > What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation. > Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it. > I am sure it will be good learning experience. > with best wishes. > > OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > Swami_RCS > ---------------------- > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > - - > > - > tw853 > > Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > Dear all, > > The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, > time and space. > > Regards, > > tw > > REFERENCES > > 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the > place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833 > 2) " It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, > time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that > these will change, when same chart is studies by number of > astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in > page 2 of the " Four Step Theory " > 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi > (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) > 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same > BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's " Secrets of > RP & the Birth Time " ,1999, pp 94-96. > 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful > chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, > 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group) > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Naiduji, > > > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to > > explain properly. > > > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any > sense. > > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji, > > > > > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, > star, sub > > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day > lord, > > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 > planets (asc > > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). > > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 > planets ? > > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ? > > > > > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 > > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL > 4 > > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or > connection in > > any way ? > > > > > > I request your kind clarification. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > Nowroji Road, > > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@ wrote: > > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_nair@ > > > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > > > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of > judgement > > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc > > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, > star, > > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time > of > > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way > > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. >  > > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be > > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check > > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per > KP > > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob.  > > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK > Viswanath > > > > > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: > Dear > > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of > birth > > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this > regard. > > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become > difficult > > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of > > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I > > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May > > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth > Tiruchirappalli > > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan  > > > > > > Why delete messages? 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Dhanabalan ji, I respect opinion of TW ji and yours experience Too ,I am not an expert in KP either. If you read once more my earlier mail, may be you realize that there is need to experiment and try validity of any rule before one accepts it. You already have this trait in ample measure. Why not try instead of believing quotes in book, message or articles. I am in my little way associated with such small experiments across some members and find the so called real problem is not a problem at all. Search of truth may lead light. with regards. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Dhanabalan R Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:23 PM Re: Re: rectification of birtth time Dear Swami In my experience I accept the views of Mr.Tin Win and the references shown. “The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, time and space.” Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 8/14/08, swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com>Re: Re: rectification of birtth time Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 9:22 AM || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear TW ji, So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it. What matters is urge.Urge is a function of "Guna influence" on mind. RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing. What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation. Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it. I am sure it will be good learning experience. with best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - tw853 @gro ups.com Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM Re: rectification of birtth time Dear all,The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, time and space.Regards,twREFERENCES1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #148332) "It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that these will change, when same chart is studies by number of astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in page 2 of the "Four Step Theory"3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's "Secrets of RP & the Birth Time",1999, pp 94-96. 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group)@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Naiduji,> > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to> explain properly.> > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any sense.> Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ > wrote:> >> > Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> >> > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, star, sub> and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day lord,> totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 planets (asc> 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord).> > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 planets ?> or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> >> > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4> planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL 4> planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or connection in> any way ?> >> > I request your kind clarification.> >> > Regards,> >> > Naidu KP> >> >> >> >> > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> >> > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ wrote:> > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@> > Re: rectification of birtth time> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of judgement> when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc> sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, star,> sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time of> birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way> for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be> concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check> the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per KP> rules.  Then you can conclude the tob. Â> > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK Viswanath> >> > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: Dear> all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of birth> time. I request learned members of this group to help in this regard.> This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become difficult> since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of> Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May> nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth Tiruchirappalli> (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Â> >> > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> >> >> >> > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> http://in.messenger ./ invite/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Dear swami Urge of astrologer or the client? How to measure the urge? Whether the RP differs upon the urge? Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 8/14/08, tranquas <tranquas wrote: tranquas <tranquas Re: rectification of birtth time Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 10:58 AM @gro ups.com, "swami" <swami wrote:>> Dear all members,Swamis idea is an excellent option. With a given 2 charts ask the members from various places to DO BTR at a specified time which can be fixed for a acceptable time to work on the 1st chart and let the same people do the BTR for the 2nd chart with thier convenience with in stipulated period of 48 hours. If all the resuts are tabulated may give an new opening on this front.regards > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> Hari Om,> Dear TW ji,> So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it.> What matters is urge.Urge is a function of "Guna influence" on mind..> RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing.> What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation.> Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it.> I am sure it will be good learning experience.> with best wishes.> > OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Swami_RCS > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM> Re: rectification of birtth time> > > Dear all,> > The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, > time and space.> > Regards,> > tw> > REFERENCES> > 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the > place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833> 2) "It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, > time, date of studying the chart.. There is very possibilities that > these will change, when same chart is studies by number of > astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in > page 2 of the "Four Step Theory"> 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi > (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) > 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same > BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's "Secrets of > RP & the Birth Time",1999, pp 94-96. > 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful > chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, > 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group)> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Naiduji,> > > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to> > explain properly.> > > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any > sense.> > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> > >> > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, > star, sub> > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day > lord,> > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 > planets (asc> > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord).> > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 > planets ?> > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> > >> > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4> > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL > 4> > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or > connection in> > any way ?> > >> > > I request your kind clarification.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ wrote:> > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@> > > Re: rectification of birtth time> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of > judgement> > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc> > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, > star,> > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time > of> > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way> > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. >  > > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be> > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check> > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per > KP> > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob. Â> > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK > Viswanath> > >> > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: > Dear> > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of > birth> > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this > regard.> > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become > difficult> > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of> > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May> > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth > Tiruchirappalli> > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Â> > >> > > Why delete messages? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Dear Sirs, In my openion the time for calculation and correction is not to be imposed . One has to provide the data of birth to some of the interested volunteers and just request then to rectify. They have to take up the assignment when they get the urge and do leisurely. They will get the urge to calculate by devine guidance according to their location. With due regards. Dr. Luther tranquas <tranquas Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:58:51 AM Re: rectification of birtth time @gro ups.com, "swami" <swami wrote:>> Dear all members,Swamis idea is an excellent option. With a given 2 charts ask the members from various places to DO BTR at a specified time which can be fixed for a acceptable time to work on the 1st chart and let the same people do the BTR for the 2nd chart with thier convenience with in stipulated period of 48 hours. If all the resuts are tabulated may give an new opening on this front.regards > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> Hari Om,> Dear TW ji,> So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it.> What matters is urge.Urge is a function of "Guna influence" on mind.> RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing.> What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation.> Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it.> I am sure it will be good learning experience.> with best wishes.> > OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Swami_RCS > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM> Re: rectification of birtth time> > > Dear all,> > The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, > time and space.> > Regards,> > tw> > REFERENCES> > 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the > place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833> 2) "It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, > time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that > these will change, when same chart is studies by number of > astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in > page 2 of the "Four Step Theory"> 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi > (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) > 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same > BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's "Secrets of > RP & the Birth Time",1999, pp 94-96. > 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful > chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, > 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group)> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Naiduji,> > > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to> > explain properly.> > > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any > sense.> > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> > >> > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, > star, sub> > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day > lord,> > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 > planets (asc> > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord).> > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 > planets ?> > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> > >> > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4> > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL > 4> > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or > connection in> > any way ?> > >> > > I request your kind clarification.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ wrote:> > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@> > > Re: rectification of birtth time> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of > judgement> > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc> > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, > star,> > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time > of> > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way> > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. >  > > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be> > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check> > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per > KP> > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob. Â> > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK > Viswanath> > >> > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: > Dear> > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of > birth> > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this > regard.> > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become > difficult> > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of> > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May> > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth > Tiruchirappalli> > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Â> > >> > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> > >> > >> > >> > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://in.messenger ./ invite/> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Dhanabalan ji, Urge in the mind of astrologer is important, for He is to seek answer fr consultant and Divine has to express through him. No need to measure urge,If urge is there,HE will be able to take up study. RP reflects What you are searching for.They point at a specific ( say degree) of Zodiac . Seed thought is in the number conveyed to him. Answer is revealed only if divine desires and it is through astrologer. It is sort of complete circuit. For further clarification Please read Page 88 of reader VI 1986 Edition. "The time at which the urge comes in mind of the consultant may be compared to the urge of expectant mother needing a mid wife assistance.Posting the letter is similar to getting a convyance to go to the nursing home.Postman delivering the letter is similar to the expectant mother getting admitted into the labour ward, But the moment when the astrologer sits for judgement is similar to the moment the whole body of the child has got seperated from the mother. If one is to erect a horoscope for the moment when the urge was in the mind of consultant, it will show whether the astrologer would answer the question at all or not.whether astrologer would take time to reply and also whether the letter was mis- carred or delivered properly to the astrologer. for the time post man delivers the letter , if horoscope is cast , it will show when the astrologer will take it for judgement. but when if one takes the time when astrologer erects a horoscope for the moment of judgement , then the planets will be occupying such a position which gives a clear picture to astrologer. the truth will dawn in his mind." Therefore , the time of judgement alone must be taken to give the results of query put by the consultant and the number he has given should remain the same. I would also share , This is not just a quote! It is wisdom of the paramparas also, very little talked about in public.We always follow it.No natal reading is done without Horary, ever never. There is more to it.(You may like to see note below page 99 also of reader six). But that is part of vedic procedure.Since you have studied vedic also , you may be aware that Astrologer then checks , if divine will exists and answer as well as question is reflected in time chart caste. It is checked that consultant has his Birth ascendant in Trine or oposition Navamsa lagna of Prasna. Prasna chart does not have tamsic influence on prasna lagna lest quesion is about death debt disease or war etc. Hope this helps. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Dhanabalan R Friday, August 15, 2008 11:19 PM Re: Re: rectification of birtth time Dear swami Urge of astrologer or the client? How to measure the urge? Whether the RP differs upon the urge? Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 8/14/08, tranquas <tranquas > wrote: tranquas <tranquas > Re: rectification of birtth time Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 10:58 AM @gro ups.com, "swami" <swami wrote:>> Dear all members,Swamis idea is an excellent option. With a given 2 charts ask the members from various places to DO BTR at a specified time which can be fixed for a acceptable time to work on the 1st chart and let the same people do the BTR for the 2nd chart with thier convenience with in stipulated period of 48 hours. If all the resuts are tabulated may give an new opening on this front.regards > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> Hari Om,> Dear TW ji,> So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it.> What matters is urge.Urge is a function of "Guna influence" on mind..> RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing.> What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation.> Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it.> I am sure it will be good learning experience.> with best wishes.> > OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Swami_RCS > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM> Re: rectification of birtth time> > > Dear all,> > The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, > time and space.> > Regards,> > tw> > REFERENCES> > 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the > place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833> 2) "It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, > time, date of studying the chart.. There is very possibilities that > these will change, when same chart is studies by number of > astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in > page 2 of the "Four Step Theory"> 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi > (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) > 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same > BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's "Secrets of > RP & the Birth Time",1999, pp 94-96. > 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful > chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, > 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group)> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Naiduji,> > > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to> > explain properly.> > > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any > sense.> > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> > >> > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, > star, sub> > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day > lord,> > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 > planets (asc> > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord).> > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 > planets ?> > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> > >> > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4> > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL > 4> > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or > connection in> > any way ?> > >> > > I request your kind clarification.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ wrote:> > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@> > > Re: rectification of birtth time> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of > judgement> > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc> > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, > star,> > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time > of> > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way> > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. >  > > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be> > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check> > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per > KP> > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob. Â> > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK > Viswanath> > >> > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: > Dear> > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of > birth> > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this > regard.> > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become > difficult> > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of> > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May> > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth > Tiruchirappalli> > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Â> > >> > > Why delete messages? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Dr Luther, Your aproach is perfectly correct. No constrants called for . It is para vidya not a laboratory experiment with best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Luther Rath Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:48 AM Re: Re: rectification of birtth time Dear Sirs, In my openion the time for calculation and correction is not to be imposed . One has to provide the data of birth to some of the interested volunteers and just request then to rectify. They have to take up the assignment when they get the urge and do leisurely. They will get the urge to calculate by devine guidance according to their location. With due regards. Dr. Luther tranquas <tranquas > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:58:51 AM Re: rectification of birtth time @gro ups.com, "swami" <swami wrote:>> Dear all members,Swamis idea is an excellent option. With a given 2 charts ask the members from various places to DO BTR at a specified time which can be fixed for a acceptable time to work on the 1st chart and let the same people do the BTR for the 2nd chart with thier convenience with in stipulated period of 48 hours. If all the resuts are tabulated may give an new opening on this front.regards > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> Hari Om,> Dear TW ji,> So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are one facet of it.> What matters is urge.Urge is a function of "Guna influence" on mind.> RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing.> What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct applcation.> Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some members work on rectification of one chart and varify it.> I am sure it will be good learning experience.> with best wishes.> > OM TATSAT> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Swami_RCS > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > - > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM> Re: rectification of birtth time> > > Dear all,> > The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on person, > time and space.> > Regards,> > tw> > REFERENCES> > 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the > place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833> 2) "It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on place, > time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities that > these will change, when same chart is studies by number of > astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in > page 2 of the "Four Step Theory"> 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi > (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) > 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the same > BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's "Secrets of > RP & the Birth Time",1999, pp 94-96. > 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same doubtful > chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, > 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group)> > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Naiduji,> > > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be able to> > explain properly.> > > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any > sense.> > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@ > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji,> > >> > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, > star, sub> > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and day > lord,> > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 > planets (asc> > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord).> > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 > planets ?> > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ?> > >> > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4> > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th CSL > 4> > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or > connection in> > any way ?> > >> > > I request your kind clarification.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ wrote:> > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@> > > Re: rectification of birtth time> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of > judgement> > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take Asc> > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as Sign, > star,> > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the time > of> > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way> > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord. >  > > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be> > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check> > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as per > KP> > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob. Â> > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK > Viswanath> > >> > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote: > Dear> > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification of > birth> > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this > regard.> > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become > difficult> > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning of> > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I> > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth sseventh May> > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth > Tiruchirappalli> > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan Â> > >> > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> > >> > >> > >> > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to> > http://in.messenger ./ invite/> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dear DR.LUTHER, Thank you and yes i fully agree with ur point. regards , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > In my openion the time for calculation and correction is not to be imposed . One has to provide the data of birth to some of the interested volunteers and just request then to rectify. They have to take up the assignment when they get the urge and do leisurely. They will get the urge to calculate by devine guidance according to their location. > With due regards. > Dr. Luther > > > > > tranquas <tranquas > > Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:58:51 AM > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > @gro ups.com, " swami " <swami@> wrote: > > > > > Dear all members, > > Swamis idea is an excellent option. With a given 2 charts ask the > members from various places to DO BTR at a specified time which can > be fixed for a acceptable time to work on the 1st chart and let the > same people do the BTR for the 2nd chart with thier convenience with > in stipulated period of 48 hours. If all the resuts are tabulated > may give an new opening on this front. > > regards > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > Hari Om, > > Dear TW ji, > > So what,Change is part of mechanism governing universe and RP are > one facet of it. > > What matters is urge.Urge is a function of " Guna influence " on > mind. > > RP for sure will answer what one desires to know, may be birth > time, lagna degree or cusp or any thing. > > What is needed is correct understanding of RP and correct > applcation. > > Hope group has members in different location of globe.Let some > members work on rectification of one chart and varify it. > > I am sure it will be good learning experience. > > with best wishes. > > > > OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > Swami_RCS > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------- > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has > > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > - > > > > - > > tw853 > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:11 PM > > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > The real problem is that the RPs are changing depending on > person, > > time and space. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > REFERENCES > > > > 1) Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on > the > > place and time of the querry-- Shri Raichur, Message #14833 > > 2) " It may have been noticed that ruling planets depend on > place, > > time, date of studying the chart. There is very possibilities > that > > these will change, when same chart is studies by number of > > astrologers at diffenent places and times-- Sunil Gondhalekar in > > page 2 of the " Four Step Theory " > > 3) THERE IS NO SUCH COMMON SOLUTTION--Shri K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi > > (Answer in Msg#5054 to Question in Msg#5051) > > 4) Not the same rectified TOB by four astrologers by using the > same > > BRT method of KB-- in the conclusion of K. Baskaran's " Secrets > of > > RP & the Birth Time " ,1999, pp 94-96. > > 5) Not the same rectified TOB in three tests for the same > doubtful > > chart using the same rule of RPs-- Narhari Khake (KP Year Book, > > 1998, p 31) (Msg#5028 of this group) > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Naiduji, > > > > > > Benefit of doubt may be given here, probably he may not be > able to > > > explain properly. > > > > > > Be what it may be. Using more than 4-5 RP s does not make any > > sense. > > > Those who are doing this are just fooling themselves. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sri Viswanath Ji, > > > > > > > > Reg RPs you have suggested to take 9 planets i.e., Asc sign, > > star, sub > > > and sub sub lords - 4 planets, similarly 4planets of Moon and > day > > lord, > > > totalling 9 planets. These 9 planets to compared to natal 9 > > planets (asc > > > 4planets + Moon's 4 planets + day lord). > > > > How to compare ? Whether 9 RPs to be present in Natal 9 > > planets ? > > > or whether 9 RPs in any way connected to natal 9 planets ? > > > > > > > > Reg 1st CSL connection to 9th CSL, if any of the 1st CSL 4 > > > planets (sign, star, sub and sub sub lords) present in the 9th > CSL > > 4 > > > planets ? or whether all the planets should present ? or > > connection in > > > any way ? > > > > > > > > I request your kind clarification. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/2/08, MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ > wrote: > > > > MK Viswanath astrologervishy_ nair@ > > > > Re: rectification of birtth time > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 15 February, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir  You may please take ruling planets for the time of > > judgement > > > when you are going to do the BTR.  In Ruling planets you take > Asc > > > sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way for Moon such as > Sign, > > star, > > > sub, sub sub lord. Take the day lord.  Match them with the > time > > of > > > birth  i.e.,  Asc sign, star, sub, and sub sub lords Same way > > > for Moon such as Sign, star, sub, sub sub lord. Take the day > lord. > >  > > > Match with both above and the most related time of birth may be > > > concluded.  Ensure to get Asc CSL and 9th CSL related.  Check > > > the marriage date and child birth etc are falling coorectly as > per > > KP > > > rules.  Then you can conclude the tob.  > > > > May be this is little bit of enormous work.  Regards MK > > Viswanath > > > > > > > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > > wrote: > > Dear > > > all! I would like to cast my own horoscope after rectification > of > > birth > > > time. I request learned members of this group to help in this > > regard. > > > This (the task of rectification of my birth time has become > > difficult > > > since the lagna falls either at the end of Gemini or beginning > of > > > Cancer) has been challenging ,so I > > > > thought to seek advice of the members. Date of birth > sseventh May > > > nineteenfortytwo. Time approx.10.25min. Place of birth > > Tiruchirappalli > > > (Tamilnadu) Thanking you, Jammalamadugu rangan  > > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://in.messenger ./ invite/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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