Pre & Extra marital case study 12thfeb

February 12, 2008

as this is very old case known to me icould recollect the time of birth however there is no doubts aboutthe lagna and other positionsthank y with regrdsvgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: sriramji ,pls give her time of birth..........with regardssairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote: here i s a lady chart brn 24 2 1971 chennai lost husband early in 1990

march after 2 children after severe fever as young widow nobody to take care in traiditonal family however urging for remarriage forwhich nobody took initiative and she started having voluntary affairs with apeople known to her on specific request here 5th raghu as pect of saturn from 8th house moon with mercury (mercury moon during daxsa bukthi and this combination as i see give much ofthis kind of affairs) mars star of boldness during jupiter in connection with mars the zeal and energy in kalapurushas 8th house and 3rd house of efforts and kama with 7th lord venus in 4th 9th lord gave good job and house from 4th house with digbala however the affairs go in desperatio and frustration as the incumbanats are married person and not willingto commit and marry declares she is young and wants to marry and settle however no takers due to family and social pressures and two children5th and 3rd house with

malefics connections gives room for bad thoughts (against social norms and ) the 11th if give support realises the efforts 8th seems only trouble and tension and 7th being obnly contact and association venus with malefics in 5 3 11 gives even at any age i see gives room and opportunities to such affiars mercury mars and moon in such connection also gives during their DBA tallied with good kocharas and the DBA lords moon mercury and moon venus in houses of saturn mars in 3rd or 5th house gives such opportunities and realises at appropriate timethank y with regards Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Parag, The data you have supplied is vague and exact details of DOB,POB & TOB ,about which I have already written to you, and details are still being AWAITED...which please note... You will,I am sure appreciate that no K.P. Astrologer worth his name,will embark to analyse,let alone comment on the type of incomplete data you have sent...and stake his reputation... I find your mail falsely accusing me,as totally unfair and hitting below the belt...and I suspect that you are upto some "game"...! Pl. do not correspond with me, and I too refuse to respond to not only your mails,but any such motivated mails in future... L.Y.Rao. parag_m_g <parag_m_g > Sent: Wednesday, 6 February, 2008 3:10:51 PM Pre & Extra marital relations...Eagerly await comments & analysis Dear all Members,I received a personal mail from Shri Yogesh rao Lajmi. So I sentsome cases. As proposed by Tinwin, I also sent one Chart to analyse. Since I didnt receive any response to any of my mails, I wish toput forth same Chart here for Veterans & all members to study & comment. This is a reverse example, Though sublord of 5th house Rahuis significator of 7,8th & 11th house, nothing happened as

personclaims. Or am I making mistake in calling Rahu as significator of7,8th & 11th house? Here are the details:---DoB 30th June 1971ToB 0305 am i.e. 29th night & dawn of 30thPlace Dombivli in Thane District, a suburb of Mumbai@gro ups.com, "Subhash" <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Friends> > In my opinion Mr. Sujatkaramji is right. Just giving references > confuse new students like me. And expecting everybody to choose the > correct one is asking a bit too much.> > I appriciate Mr. Tin Win ji for his vast knowledge and hard work he > does for promotion of Astrology. He is a living encyclopeadia, I > accept. My proposal to all members is, "Why not form a research team > under able guidance of Mr.Tin

Winji ?" He can choose the topic for > research, members to help him etc. Commitee of stalwarts like Lajmi > ji, Raichur ji, Tin Winji, Gondhalekar ji and others may be formed to > finalise the methodology of research. Each member can contribute to > the database alongwith (research) working as suggested by the > commitee which may be consolidated and summerized by Mr.Tin Winji.> > The research carried out alongwith results shall then be posted on > the forum. Members of forum can express their views/opinions and > finally a commitee/jury of learned members mentioned above can > express their approval or otherwise. Thus we can eliminate many > options and endorse the right one thus clearing the muddy water.> > I am ready to assist in this noble cause and hereby offer my services > to Mr.Tin Winji....of course, if this proposal is acceptabble to him > and all other

members.> > Regards> > Subhash Ektare> > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sujatkaram ji,> > > > That is why references are given to read Gurui KSK's view and 4 > step > > view, if you want to know. Which one is true is open to imperical > > research.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw > > > > > > > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@ > > > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Tinwinji,> > >

sir,> > > There are views, views and views and in most cases they > contradict > > > one another. Someone has jocularly said that we agree on only one > > > point viz. Disagreement. When there is only one truth why > different > > > views should keep on floating ? I think this might be the > > situation > > > which our revered Guruji referred to as muddy water.And therefore > > he > > > gave us a wholesome complete system which has only one rule for > > > prediction of each aspect of life.Are we going to contaminate > > the > > > waters again?> > > It is not correct, in my opinion, to expect each and every > student > > to > > > study all the views and arrive at correct conclusion. The > > veterans, > > > researchers and scholors have to do this and put forth

a single > > view > > > that comes closest to the truth, and that view will stand good > > until > > > it is proved wrong.This happens in science.> > > regards,> > > sujat.-- In @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sujatkaram,> > > > > > > > 1. Why don't you read KP Reader VI page 145-147, if you want to > > > > properly understand Guruji KSK's teaching in this regard.> > > > > > > > 2. The 4 Step view in this regard can be found in the 4 Step > > note > > > in > > > > the file section of this group.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > >

> > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@ > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected members,> > > > > Sirs,> > > > > The latest about retro. planets I came across is that a > retro. > > > > planet, > > > > > in horaty, does give results; a planet in the star of a > > > retro.planet > > > > > will not give results only as long as the star planet is > > > retrograde > > > > but > > > > > will give results after it begins to move direct.Is it > correct?> > > > > regards,> > > > >

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February 12, 2008

If the lagna position in deg:min(:sec) & Ayanamsa used are provided,

the TOB can be easily pinned down by SW for Pavan ji's request.

, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:

>

> as this is very old case known to me icould recollect the time of

birth however there is no doubts aboutthe lagna and other positions

>

> thank y with regrds

>

> vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote:

> sriramji ,

>

> pls give her time of birth..........with regards

> sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:

> here i s a lady chart brn 24 2 1971

chennai lost husband early in 1990 march after 2 children after

severe fever as young widow nobody to take care in traiditonal

family however urging for remarriage forwhich nobody took initiative

and she started having voluntary affairs with apeople known to her

on specific request

>

> here 5th raghu as pect of saturn from 8th house moon with

mercury (mercury moon during daxsa bukthi and this combination as

i see give much ofthis kind of affairs) mars star of boldness

during jupiter in connection with mars the zeal and energy in

kalapurushas 8th house and 3rd house of efforts and kama with 7th

lord venus in 4th 9th lord gave good job and house from 4th house

with digbala

>

> however the affairs go in desperatio and frustration as the

incumbanats are married person and not willingto commit and marry

>

> declares she is young and wants to marry and settle however no

takers due to family and social pressures and two children

>

> 5th and 3rd house with malefics connections gives room for bad

thoughts (against social norms and ) the 11th if give support

realises the efforts 8th seems only trouble and tension and 7th

being obnly contact and association

>

> venus with malefics in 5 3 11 gives even at any age i see gives

room and opportunities to such affiars mercury mars and moon in such

connection also gives during their DBA tallied with good kocharas

and the DBA lords

>

> moon mercury and moon venus in houses of saturn mars in 3rd or 5th

house gives such opportunities and realises at appropriate time

>

> thank y with regards

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

>

> Dear Parag,

> The data you have supplied is vague and exact

details of DOB,POB & TOB ,about which I have already written to

you, and details are still being AWAITED...which please note...

> You will,I am sure appreciate that no K.P.

Astrologer worth his name,will embark to analyse,let alone comment

on the type of incomplete data you have sent...and stake his

reputation...

> I find your mail falsely accusing me,as totally

unfair and hitting below the belt...and I suspect that you are upto

some " game " ...!

> Pl. do not correspond with me, and I too refuse

to respond to not only your mails,but any such motivated mails in

future...

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> parag_m_g <parag_m_g

>

> Wednesday, 6 February, 2008 3:10:51 PM

> Pre & Extra marital relations...Eagerly

await comments & analysis

>

> Dear all Members,

> I received a personal mail from Shri Yogesh rao Lajmi. So I sent

> some cases. As proposed by Tinwin, I also sent one Chart to

analyse.

>

> Since I didnt receive any response to any of my mails, I wish to

> put forth same Chart here for Veterans & all members to study &

> comment. This is a reverse example, Though sublord of 5th house

Rahu

> is significator of 7,8th & 11th house, nothing happened as person

> claims. Or am I making mistake in calling Rahu as significator of

> 7,8th & 11th house? Here are the details:---

> DoB 30th June 1971

> ToB 0305 am i.e. 29th night & dawn of 30th

> Place Dombivli in Thane District, a suburb of Mumbai

>

> @gro ups.com, " Subhash "

<subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends

> >

> > In my opinion Mr. Sujatkaramji is right. Just giving references

> > confuse new students like me. And expecting everybody to choose

the

> > correct one is asking a bit too much.

> >

> > I appriciate Mr. Tin Win ji for his vast knowledge and hard work

he

> > does for promotion of Astrology. He is a living encyclopeadia, I

> > accept. My proposal to all members is, " Why not form a research

team

> > under able guidance of Mr.Tin Winji ? " He can choose the topic

for

> > research, members to help him etc. Commitee of stalwarts like

Lajmi

> > ji, Raichur ji, Tin Winji, Gondhalekar ji and others may be

formed to

> > finalise the methodology of research. Each member can contribute

to

> > the database alongwith (research) working as suggested by the

> > commitee which may be consolidated and summerized by Mr.Tin

Winji.

> >

> > The research carried out alongwith results shall then be posted

on

> > the forum. Members of forum can express their views/opinions

and

> > finally a commitee/jury of learned members mentioned above can

> > express their approval or otherwise. Thus we can eliminate many

> > options and endorse the right one thus clearing the muddy water.

> >

> > I am ready to assist in this noble cause and hereby offer my

services

> > to Mr.Tin Winji....of course, if this proposal is acceptabble to

him

> > and all other members.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Subhash Ektare

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sujatkaram ji,

> > >

> > > That is why references are given to read Gurui KSK's view and

4

> > step

> > > view, if you want to know. Which one is true is open to

imperical

> > > research.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@

>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Tinwinji,

> > > > sir,

> > > > There are views, views and views and in most cases they

> > contradict

> > > > one another. Someone has jocularly said that we agree on

only one

> > > > point viz. Disagreement. When there is only one truth why

> > different

> > > > views should keep on floating ? I think this might be the

> > > situation

> > > > which our revered Guruji referred to as muddy water.And

therefore

> > > he

> > > > gave us a wholesome complete system which has only one rule

for

> > > > prediction of each aspect of life.Are we going to

contaminate

> > > the

> > > > waters again?

> > > > It is not correct, in my opinion, to expect each and every

> > student

> > > to

> > > > study all the views and arrive at correct conclusion. The

> > > veterans,

> > > > researchers and scholors have to do this and put forth a

single

> > > view

> > > > that comes closest to the truth, and that view will stand

good

> > > until

> > > > it is proved wrong.This happens in science.

> > > > regards,

> > > > sujat.-- In @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sujatkaram,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Why don't you read KP Reader VI page 145-147, if you

want to

> > > > > properly understand Guruji KSK's teaching in this regard.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. The 4 Step view in this regard can be found in the 4

Step

> > > note

> > > > in

> > > > > the file section of this group.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram "

<sujatkaram@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected members,

> > > > > > Sirs,

> > > > > > The latest about retro. planets I came across is that

a

> > retro.

> > > > > planet,

> > > > > > in horaty, does give results; a planet in the star of a

> > > > retro.planet

> > > > > > will not give results only as long as the star planet is

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > but

> > > > > > will give results after it begins to move direct.Is it

> > correct?

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > sujatkaram

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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February 13, 2008

In this column,Mr.Subhash Ektare has suggested to form a " group " for

research etc...

Research is usually directed in NEW areas,and NOT in already well-

known and well-researched areas...Moreover,Research is not desireable

simply to confirm which of the several " opinions " is correct...when a

careful re-reading is most appropriate,as KSK's Readers,and K.P. &

Astrology are excellent books which contain subjects distilled from

original research papers...else,it will be a lot of time wasted for

K.P. stalwarts,already familiar with these original well-researched

dictums...

The late Dr. K.R.Kar has published a lot of research papers on a

variety of entirely NOVEL concepts in the use of K.P.

Plenty of research has already been done but,sad to say,their

application in real-time is severely lacking...!

With best wishes to ALL...

L.Y.Rao.

>

> If the lagna position in deg:min(:sec) & Ayanamsa used are

provided,

> the TOB can be easily pinned down by SW for Pavan ji's request.

>

> , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:

> >

> > as this is very old case known to me icould recollect the time of

> birth however there is no doubts aboutthe lagna and other positions

> >

> > thank y with regrds

> >

> > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote:

> > sriramji ,

> >

> > pls give her time of birth..........with regards

> > sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:

> > here i s a lady chart brn 24 2 1971

> chennai lost husband early in 1990 march after 2 children after

> severe fever as young widow nobody to take care in traiditonal

> family however urging for remarriage forwhich nobody took

initiative

> and she started having voluntary affairs with apeople known to her

> on specific request

> >

> > here 5th raghu as pect of saturn from 8th house moon with

> mercury (mercury moon during daxsa bukthi and this combination as

> i see give much ofthis kind of affairs) mars star of boldness

> during jupiter in connection with mars the zeal and energy in

> kalapurushas 8th house and 3rd house of efforts and kama with 7th

> lord venus in 4th 9th lord gave good job and house from 4th house

> with digbala

> >

> > however the affairs go in desperatio and frustration as the

> incumbanats are married person and not willingto commit and marry

> >

> > declares she is young and wants to marry and settle however no

> takers due to family and social pressures and two children

> >

> > 5th and 3rd house with malefics connections gives room for bad

> thoughts (against social norms and ) the 11th if give support

> realises the efforts 8th seems only trouble and tension and 7th

> being obnly contact and association

> >

> > venus with malefics in 5 3 11 gives even at any age i see gives

> room and opportunities to such affiars mercury mars and moon in

such

> connection also gives during their DBA tallied with good kocharas

> and the DBA lords

> >

> > moon mercury and moon venus in houses of saturn mars in 3rd or

5th

> house gives such opportunities and realises at appropriate time

> >

> > thank y with regards

> >

> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Parag,

> > The data you have supplied is vague and exact

> details of DOB,POB & TOB ,about which I have already written to

> you, and details are still being AWAITED...which please note...

> > You will,I am sure appreciate that no K.P.

> Astrologer worth his name,will embark to analyse,let alone comment

> on the type of incomplete data you have sent...and stake his

> reputation...

> > I find your mail falsely accusing me,as

totally

> unfair and hitting below the belt...and I suspect that you are upto

> some " game " ...!

> > Pl. do not correspond with me, and I too

refuse

> to respond to not only your mails,but any such motivated mails in

> future...

> > L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > parag_m_g <parag_m_g@>

> >

> > Wednesday, 6 February, 2008 3:10:51 PM

> > Pre & Extra marital relations...Eagerly

> await comments & analysis

> >

> > Dear all Members,

> > I received a personal mail from Shri Yogesh rao Lajmi. So I sent

> > some cases. As proposed by Tinwin, I also sent one Chart to

> analyse.

> >

> > Since I didnt receive any response to any of my mails, I wish to

> > put forth same Chart here for Veterans & all members to study &

> > comment. This is a reverse example, Though sublord of 5th house

> Rahu

> > is significator of 7,8th & 11th house, nothing happened as person

> > claims. Or am I making mistake in calling Rahu as significator of

> > 7,8th & 11th house? Here are the details:---

> > DoB 30th June 1971

> > ToB 0305 am i.e. 29th night & dawn of 30th

> > Place Dombivli in Thane District, a suburb of Mumbai

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " Subhash "

> <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends

> > >

> > > In my opinion Mr. Sujatkaramji is right. Just giving

references

> > > confuse new students like me. And expecting everybody to choose

> the

> > > correct one is asking a bit too much.

> > >

> > > I appriciate Mr. Tin Win ji for his vast knowledge and hard

work

> he

> > > does for promotion of Astrology. He is a living encyclopeadia,

I

> > > accept. My proposal to all members is, " Why not form a research

> team

> > > under able guidance of Mr.Tin Winji ? " He can choose the topic

> for

> > > research, members to help him etc. Commitee of stalwarts like

> Lajmi

> > > ji, Raichur ji, Tin Winji, Gondhalekar ji and others may be

> formed to

> > > finalise the methodology of research. Each member can

contribute

> to

> > > the database alongwith (research) working as suggested by the

> > > commitee which may be consolidated and summerized by Mr.Tin

> Winji.

> > >

> > > The research carried out alongwith results shall then be

posted

> on

> > > the forum. Members of forum can express their views/opinions

> and

> > > finally a commitee/jury of learned members mentioned above can

> > > express their approval or otherwise. Thus we can eliminate many

> > > options and endorse the right one thus clearing the muddy

water.

> > >

> > > I am ready to assist in this noble cause and hereby offer my

> services

> > > to Mr.Tin Winji....of course, if this proposal is acceptabble

to

> him

> > > and all other members.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Subhash Ektare

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sujatkaram ji,

> > > >

> > > > That is why references are given to read Gurui KSK's view and

> 4

> > > step

> > > > view, if you want to know. Which one is true is open to

> imperical

> > > > research.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Tinwinji,

> > > > > sir,

> > > > > There are views, views and views and in most cases they

> > > contradict

> > > > > one another. Someone has jocularly said that we agree on

> only one

> > > > > point viz. Disagreement. When there is only one truth why

> > > different

> > > > > views should keep on floating ? I think this might be the

> > > > situation

> > > > > which our revered Guruji referred to as muddy water.And

> therefore

> > > > he

> > > > > gave us a wholesome complete system which has only one rule

> for

> > > > > prediction of each aspect of life.Are we going to

> contaminate

> > > > the

> > > > > waters again?

> > > > > It is not correct, in my opinion, to expect each and every

> > > student

> > > > to

> > > > > study all the views and arrive at correct conclusion. The

> > > > veterans,

> > > > > researchers and scholors have to do this and put forth a

> single

> > > > view

> > > > > that comes closest to the truth, and that view will stand

> good

> > > > until

> > > > > it is proved wrong.This happens in science.

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > sujat.-- In @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sujatkaram,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Why don't you read KP Reader VI page 145-147, if you

> want to

> > > > > > properly understand Guruji KSK's teaching in this regard.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. The 4 Step view in this regard can be found in the 4

> Step

> > > > note

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the file section of this group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram "

> <sujatkaram@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected members,

> > > > > > > Sirs,

> > > > > > > The latest about retro. planets I came across is that

> a

> > > retro.

> > > > > > planet,

> > > > > > > in horaty, does give results; a planet in the star of a

> > > > > retro.planet

> > > > > > > will not give results only as long as the star planet

is

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > will give results after it begins to move direct.Is it

> > > correct?

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > sujatkaram

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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February 14, 2008

Respected Sir and Members,

I agree with you Sir, that the research is usually directed in NEW

areas. However in his message # 16394 Mr.Tin Win ji has suggested

that the choice of various " opinions " is open to imperial research.

And there were no comments from learned/stalwert astrologers of the

group. That was the reason I submitted the proposal. But only

Mr.Sujatkaram ji has seconded it in message #16429.

Sir, you must have very carefully gone through the Books and other

research papers/works in KP. So all the members of this group will

highly appriciate if you, jointly with other stalwerts, can guide the

members to pick up correct " opinion " (and weed out the temptors) in

such cases.

Further if you have no objection to form research group, you are

welcome to suggest New areas requiring research and guide forum

members in achieving the aim. Your moral support and guidance are of

utmost importance to us.

Members are requested to express their views.

With regards

Subhash Ektare

, " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1 wrote:

>

> In this column,Mr.Subhash Ektare has suggested to form a " group "

for

> research etc...

> Research is usually directed in NEW areas,and NOT in already well-

> known and well-researched areas...Moreover,Research is not

desireable

> simply to confirm which of the several " opinions " is correct...when

a

> careful re-reading is most appropriate,as KSK's Readers,and K.P. &

> Astrology are excellent books which contain subjects distilled from

> original research papers...else,it will be a lot of time wasted for

> K.P. stalwarts,already familiar with these original well-researched

> dictums...

> The late Dr. K.R.Kar has published a lot of research papers on a

> variety of entirely NOVEL concepts in the use of K.P.

> Plenty of research has already been done but,sad to say,their

> application in real-time is severely lacking...!

> With best wishes to ALL...

> L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > If the lagna position in deg:min(:sec) & Ayanamsa used are

> provided,

> > the TOB can be easily pinned down by SW for Pavan ji's request.

> >

> > , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:

> > >

> > > as this is very old case known to me icould recollect the time

of

> > birth however there is no doubts aboutthe lagna and other

positions

> > >

> > > thank y with regrds

> > >

> > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote:

> > > sriramji ,

> > >

> > > pls give her time of birth..........with regards

> > > sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:

> > > here i s a lady chart brn 24 2 1971

> > chennai lost husband early in 1990 march after 2 children after

> > severe fever as young widow nobody to take care in traiditonal

> > family however urging for remarriage forwhich nobody took

> initiative

> > and she started having voluntary affairs with apeople known to

her

> > on specific request

> > >

> > > here 5th raghu as pect of saturn from 8th house moon with

> > mercury (mercury moon during daxsa bukthi and this combination

as

> > i see give much ofthis kind of affairs) mars star of boldness

> > during jupiter in connection with mars the zeal and energy in

> > kalapurushas 8th house and 3rd house of efforts and kama with 7th

> > lord venus in 4th 9th lord gave good job and house from 4th house

> > with digbala

> > >

> > > however the affairs go in desperatio and frustration as the

> > incumbanats are married person and not willingto commit and marry

> > >

> > > declares she is young and wants to marry and settle however no

> > takers due to family and social pressures and two children

> > >

> > > 5th and 3rd house with malefics connections gives room for bad

> > thoughts (against social norms and ) the 11th if give support

> > realises the efforts 8th seems only trouble and tension and 7th

> > being obnly contact and association

> > >

> > > venus with malefics in 5 3 11 gives even at any age i see gives

> > room and opportunities to such affiars mercury mars and moon in

> such

> > connection also gives during their DBA tallied with good

kocharas

> > and the DBA lords

> > >

> > > moon mercury and moon venus in houses of saturn mars in 3rd or

> 5th

> > house gives such opportunities and realises at appropriate time

> > >

> > > thank y with regards

> > >

> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Parag,

> > > The data you have supplied is vague and

exact

> > details of DOB,POB & TOB ,about which I have already written to

> > you, and details are still being AWAITED...which please note...

> > > You will,I am sure appreciate that no K.P.

> > Astrologer worth his name,will embark to analyse,let alone

comment

> > on the type of incomplete data you have sent...and stake his

> > reputation...

> > > I find your mail falsely accusing me,as

> totally

> > unfair and hitting below the belt...and I suspect that you are

upto

> > some " game " ...!

> > > Pl. do not correspond with me, and I too

> refuse

> > to respond to not only your mails,but any such motivated mails in

> > future...

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > parag_m_g <parag_m_g@>

> > >

> > > Wednesday, 6 February, 2008 3:10:51 PM

> > > Pre & Extra marital relations...Eagerly

> > await comments & analysis

> > >

> > > Dear all Members,

> > > I received a personal mail from Shri Yogesh rao Lajmi. So I sent

> > > some cases. As proposed by Tinwin, I also sent one Chart to

> > analyse.

> > >

> > > Since I didnt receive any response to any of my mails, I wish to

> > > put forth same Chart here for Veterans & all members to study &

> > > comment. This is a reverse example, Though sublord of 5th house

> > Rahu

> > > is significator of 7,8th & 11th house, nothing happened as

person

> > > claims. Or am I making mistake in calling Rahu as significator

of

> > > 7,8th & 11th house? Here are the details:---

> > > DoB 30th June 1971

> > > ToB 0305 am i.e. 29th night & dawn of 30th

> > > Place Dombivli in Thane District, a suburb of Mumbai

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " Subhash "

> > <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends

> > > >

> > > > In my opinion Mr. Sujatkaramji is right. Just giving

> references

> > > > confuse new students like me. And expecting everybody to

choose

> > the

> > > > correct one is asking a bit too much.

> > > >

> > > > I appriciate Mr. Tin Win ji for his vast knowledge and hard

> work

> > he

> > > > does for promotion of Astrology. He is a living

encyclopeadia,

> I

> > > > accept. My proposal to all members is, " Why not form a

research

> > team

> > > > under able guidance of Mr.Tin Winji ? " He can choose the

topic

> > for

> > > > research, members to help him etc. Commitee of stalwarts like

> > Lajmi

> > > > ji, Raichur ji, Tin Winji, Gondhalekar ji and others may be

> > formed to

> > > > finalise the methodology of research. Each member can

> contribute

> > to

> > > > the database alongwith (research) working as suggested by the

> > > > commitee which may be consolidated and summerized by Mr.Tin

> > Winji.

> > > >

> > > > The research carried out alongwith results shall then be

> posted

> > on

> > > > the forum. Members of forum can express their views/opinions

> > and

> > > > finally a commitee/jury of learned members mentioned above

can

> > > > express their approval or otherwise. Thus we can eliminate

many

> > > > options and endorse the right one thus clearing the muddy

> water.

> > > >

> > > > I am ready to assist in this noble cause and hereby offer my

> > services

> > > > to Mr.Tin Winji....of course, if this proposal is acceptabble

> to

> > him

> > > > and all other members.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Subhash Ektare

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sujatkaram ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > That is why references are given to read Gurui KSK's view

and

> > 4

> > > > step

> > > > > view, if you want to know. Which one is true is open to

> > imperical

> > > > > research.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram "

<sujatkaram@

> > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Tinwinji,

> > > > > > sir,

> > > > > > There are views, views and views and in most cases they

> > > > contradict

> > > > > > one another. Someone has jocularly said that we agree on

> > only one

> > > > > > point viz. Disagreement. When there is only one truth why

> > > > different

> > > > > > views should keep on floating ? I think this might be the

> > > > > situation

> > > > > > which our revered Guruji referred to as muddy water.And

> > therefore

> > > > > he

> > > > > > gave us a wholesome complete system which has only one

rule

> > for

> > > > > > prediction of each aspect of life.Are we going to

> > contaminate

> > > > > the

> > > > > > waters again?

> > > > > > It is not correct, in my opinion, to expect each and

every

> > > > student

> > > > > to

> > > > > > study all the views and arrive at correct conclusion. The

> > > > > veterans,

> > > > > > researchers and scholors have to do this and put forth a

> > single

> > > > > view

> > > > > > that comes closest to the truth, and that view will stand

> > good

> > > > > until

> > > > > > it is proved wrong.This happens in science.

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > sujat.-- In @gro ups.com, " tw853 "

<tw853@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sujatkaram,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Why don't you read KP Reader VI page 145-147, if you

> > want to

> > > > > > > properly understand Guruji KSK's teaching in this

regard.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. The 4 Step view in this regard can be found in the

4

> > Step

> > > > > note

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > the file section of this group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sujatkaram "

> > <sujatkaram@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected members,

> > > > > > > > Sirs,

> > > > > > > > The latest about retro. planets I came across is

that

> > a

> > > > retro.

> > > > > > > planet,

> > > > > > > > in horaty, does give results; a planet in the star of

a

> > > > > > retro.planet

> > > > > > > > will not give results only as long as the star planet

> is

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > will give results after it begins to move direct.Is

it

> > > > correct?

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > sujatkaram

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive

> online.

> >

> > >

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> > >

> > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive

> online.

> >

> > >

> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with

> > Search.

> > >

> >

>

February 14, 2008

Dear Subhash,

Without being familiar/conversant with,or mastering all the old research that has already been done,how will one identify new areas of research ?

It is suggested that all K.P. followers who are seriously interested in research may first, please read all the old Annuals of K.P. Astrology Magazine,beginning 1975 or earlier(I mentioned 1975 because I have preserved all the Annuals since) -they are available with the Publishers in Chennai-especially the issues covering the research papers submitted by the late K.R.Kar,Prof Balachandran,Vaikari Ramamurthi,A.Balasekar,Mr.Baskaran from Madurai, and several other K.P. Stalwarts...who have among them covered almost all the subjects now being suggested...including an interesting articles by the late K.R.Kar on "the sub-sub a reality",and it's equivalence to the Navamsa of Navamsa...the

TSP theory,DRPE theory,Punarphoo and its cancellation etc., Effects of Planets in retrogression by the eminent researcher D.C.Ghose,from Calcutta,an entire series on Ruling Planets,Easy method to clear off loans,and a host of old articles reprinted,written by KSK himself...and so on...

For those who are interested in Fundamentamental Research,I suggest the topic...

Considering the fact that different schools of Astrology "swear" by the correctness of the Ayanamsa advocated by them...research in this direction,a very disputed point among all schools of contemporary Predictive Astrology,will to my mind be most fruitfull and settle this issue "Once,and for all..."

The topic for research :

"Which of the presently bandied about Ayanamsas is most accurate ?"

A conclusive solution has evaded us since very long...

Dear Subhash have you any suggestions in this or other more interesting directions ?

With the very best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

Subhash <subhash_ektare Sent: Thursday, 14 February, 2008 12:59:14 PM Re: Pre & Extra marital case study 12thfeb

Respected Sir and Members,I agree with you Sir, that the research is usually directed in NEW areas. However in his message # 16394 Mr.Tin Win ji has suggested that the choice of various "opinions" is open to imperial research. And there were no comments from learned/stalwert astrologers of the group. That was the reason I submitted the proposal. But only Mr.Sujatkaram ji has seconded it in message #16429.Sir, you must have very carefully gone through the Books and other research papers/works in KP. So all the members of this group will highly appriciate if you, jointly with other stalwerts, can guide the members to pick up correct "opinion" (and weed out the temptors) in such cases. Further if you have no objection to form research group, you are welcome to suggest New areas requiring research and guide forum members in achieving the aim. Your moral support and guidance are of

utmost importance to us.Members are requested to express their views.With regardsSubhash Ektare@gro ups.com, "L.Y.Rao." <lyrastro1@. ..> wrote:>> In this column,Mr.Subhash Ektare has suggested to form a "group" for > research etc...> Research is usually directed in NEW areas,and NOT in already well-> known and well-researched areas...Moreover, Research is not desireable > simply to confirm which of the several "opinions" is correct...when a > careful re-reading is most appropriate, as KSK's Readers,and K.P. & > Astrology are excellent books which contain subjects distilled from > original research papers...else, it will be a lot of time wasted for > K.P. stalwarts,already familiar with

these original well-researched > dictums...> The late Dr. K.R.Kar has published a lot of research papers on a > variety of entirely NOVEL concepts in the use of K.P.> Plenty of research has already been done but,sad to say,their > application in real-time is severely lacking...!> With best wishes to ALL...> L.Y.Rao.> >> > If the lagna position in deg:min(:sec) & Ayanamsa used are > provided, > > the TOB can be easily pinned down by SW for Pavan ji's request.> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, sairam nat <sairaman53@ > wrote:> > >> > > as this is very old case known to me icould recollect the time of > > birth however there is no

doubts aboutthe lagna and other positions> > > > > > thank y with regrds> > > > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ > wrote: > > > sriramji ,> > > > > > pls give her time of birth....... ...with regards> > > sairam nat <sairaman53@ > wrote:> > > here i s a lady chart brn 24 2 1971 > > chennai lost husband early in 1990 march after 2 children after > > severe fever as young widow nobody to take care in traiditonal > > family however urging for remarriage forwhich nobody took > initiative > > and she started having voluntary affairs with apeople known to her > > on specific request > > > > > > here 5th raghu as pect of saturn from 8th house moon with > > mercury (mercury moon during daxsa bukthi and this combination as > > i

see give much ofthis kind of affairs) mars star of boldness > > during jupiter in connection with mars the zeal and energy in > > kalapurushas 8th house and 3rd house of efforts and kama with 7th > > lord venus in 4th 9th lord gave good job and house from 4th house > > with digbala > > > > > > however the affairs go in desperatio and frustration as the > > incumbanats are married person and not willingto commit and marry > > > > > > declares she is young and wants to marry and settle however no > > takers due to family and social pressures and two children> > > > > > 5th and 3rd house with malefics connections gives room for bad > > thoughts (against social norms and ) the 11th if give support > > realises the efforts 8th seems only trouble and tension and 7th > > being obnly contact and

association > > > > > > venus with malefics in 5 3 11 gives even at any age i see gives > > room and opportunities to such affiars mercury mars and moon in > such > > connection also gives during their DBA tallied with good kocharas > > and the DBA lords > > > > > > moon mercury and moon venus in houses of saturn mars in 3rd or > 5th > > house gives such opportunities and realises at appropriate time> > > > > > > > > > > > thank y with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Parag,> > > The data you have supplied is vague and exact > > details of DOB,POB & TOB ,about which I have already written to > > you, and details are

still being AWAITED...which please note...> > > You will,I am sure appreciate that no K.P. > > Astrologer worth his name,will embark to analyse,let alone comment > > on the type of incomplete data you have sent...and stake his > > reputation.. .> > > I find your mail falsely accusing me,as > totally > > unfair and hitting below the belt...and I suspect that you are upto > > some "game"...!> > > Pl. do not correspond with me, and I too > refuse > > to respond to not only your mails,but any such motivated mails in > > future...> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parag_m_g <parag_m_g@>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, 6 February, 2008 3:10:51 PM> > > Pre & Extra marital relations... Eagerly > > await comments & analysis> > > > > > Dear all Members,> > > I received a personal mail from Shri Yogesh rao Lajmi. So I sent> > > some cases. As proposed by Tinwin, I also sent one Chart to > > analyse. > > > > > > Since I didnt receive any response to any of my mails, I wish to> > > put forth same Chart here for Veterans & all members to study & > > > comment. This is a reverse example, Though sublord of 5th house > > Rahu> > > is significator of 7,8th & 11th house, nothing happened as person> > > claims. Or am I making mistake in calling Rahu as

significator of> > > 7,8th & 11th house? Here are the details:---> > > DoB 30th June 1971> > > ToB 0305 am i.e. 29th night & dawn of 30th> > > Place Dombivli in Thane District, a suburb of Mumbai> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Subhash" > > <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends> > > > > > > > In my opinion Mr. Sujatkaramji is right. Just giving > references > > > > confuse new students like me. And expecting everybody to choose > > the > > > > correct one is asking a bit too much.> > > > > > > > I appriciate Mr. Tin Win ji for his vast knowledge and hard > work > > he > > > > does for promotion of Astrology. He is a living

encyclopeadia, > I > > > > accept. My proposal to all members is, "Why not form a research > > team > > > > under able guidance of Mr.Tin Winji ?" He can choose the topic > > for > > > > research, members to help him etc. Commitee of stalwarts like > > Lajmi > > > > ji, Raichur ji, Tin Winji, Gondhalekar ji and others may be > > formed to > > > > finalise the methodology of research. Each member can > contribute > > to > > > > the database alongwith (research) working as suggested by the > > > > commitee which may be consolidated and summerized by Mr.Tin > > Winji.> > > > > > > > The research carried out alongwith results shall then be > posted > > on > > > > the forum. Members of forum can

express their views/opinions > > and > > > > finally a commitee/jury of learned members mentioned above can > > > > express their approval or otherwise. Thus we can eliminate many > > > > options and endorse the right one thus clearing the muddy > water.> > > > > > > > I am ready to assist in this noble cause and hereby offer my > > services > > > > to Mr.Tin Winji....of course, if this proposal is acceptabble > to > > him > > > > and all other members.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Subhash Ektare> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sujatkaram ji,> >

> > > > > > > > That is why references are given to read Gurui KSK's view and > > 4 > > > > step > > > > > view, if you want to know. Which one is true is open to > > imperical > > > > > research.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@ > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Tinwinji,> > > > > > sir,> > > > > > There are views, views and views and in most cases they > > > > contradict

> > > > > > one another. Someone has jocularly said that we agree on > > only one > > > > > > point viz. Disagreement. When there is only one truth why > > > > different > > > > > > views should keep on floating ? I think this might be the > > > > > situation > > > > > > which our revered Guruji referred to as muddy water.And > > therefore > > > > > he > > > > > > gave us a wholesome complete system which has only one rule > > for > > > > > > prediction of each aspect of life.Are we going to > > contaminate > > > > > the > > > > > > waters again?> > > > > > It is not correct, in my opinion, to expect each and every > > > > student > >

> > > to > > > > > > study all the views and arrive at correct conclusion. The > > > > > veterans, > > > > > > researchers and scholors have to do this and put forth a > > single > > > > > view > > > > > > that comes closest to the truth, and that view will stand > > good > > > > > until > > > > > > it is proved wrong.This happens in science.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > sujat.-- In @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sujatkaram,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Why don't you read KP Reader VI page 145-147, if you > > want to > > > > > >

> properly understand Guruji KSK's teaching in this regard.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. The 4 Step view in this regard can be found in the 4 > > Step > > > > > note > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the file section of this group.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "sujatkaram" > > <sujatkaram@ > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected members,> > > > > > > > Sirs,> > > > > > > > The

latest about retro. planets I came across is that > > a > > > > retro. > > > > > > > planet, > > > > > > > > in horaty, does give results; a planet in the star of a > > > > > > retro.planet > > > > > > > > will not give results only as long as the star planet > is > > > > > > retrograde > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > will give results after it begins to move direct.Is it > > > > correct?> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > sujatkaram> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >

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February 14, 2008

Dear Subhash,

A correction in my previous mail...I possess K.P. & Astrology Annual issues since 1995,and not 1975, as written by oversight...

Sincerely yours,

L.Y.Rao.

----- Forwarded Message ----Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Thursday, 14 February, 2008 2:10:43 PMRe: Re: Pre & Extra marital case study 12thfeb