Kindly correct me and oblige.

February 7, 2008

Respected Members,

With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the

case. The details are here as under: -

Name: KONARK GOEL.

Date of birth: 21-07-1982.

TOB: 03-45 Hrs.

POB: DELHI

The significators as per four step theory are: -

House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in

their star: KETU, SUN and MER.

Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th,

Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc

besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.

S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step

1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1

2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6,

8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9,

10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5,

11, 12, 1.

5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

1, 2.

7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1

8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.

9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

1, 2.

Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at

23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he

will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should

signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine

aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub.

Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The

signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.

The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet

in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is

in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12,

lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star

lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9

in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 &

12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad

besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4

also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign

conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 &

10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer-Mer

compelled him to go abroad.

Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in

operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat

is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon

should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11

besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon

& Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th

house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again

strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is

concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the

sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon-Mer should be the period for him to come

back during 11 to 21-03-2009.

Kindly correct me and oblige.

With regards.

February 7, 2008

Dear Shivendra,

As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :

1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and III.... also,

2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies XII...strongly along with III & XII.

For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

shivendra56 <shivendra56 Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM Kindly correct me and oblige.

Respected Members,With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the case. The details are here as under: -Name: KONARK GOEL.Date of birth: 21-07-1982. TOB: 03-45 Hrs. POB: DELHIThe significators as per four step theory are: -House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in their star: KETU, SUN and MER.Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 12. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 113. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, 11, 12, 1.5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2,

3, 4.6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 18. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in

its star lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- Mer compelled him to go abroad.Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in

own star but is conjoined with 5th house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to come back during 11 to 21-03-2009.Kindly correct me and oblige.With regards.

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February 8, 2008

Dear Shivendra,

1. For some corrections in your 'significators as per four step theory', the 4 step significators as per 4 Step book by KPAstro 3.0 (explained in the 4 Step note in the file section of this group as well as the refined version in KP E-Zine, www.loger.com) are provided in the Attachment -I. The main difference is to take aspects within the prescribed orb 3deg:20min.

2. Going abroad, if 12 CSL signifies 3,9,12 & supporting 5,7 houses. (with 10 going abroad for job; 6= unfavorable house) (4 Step book, pages 65-67, 71-72)

3. The approach to choose the DBA chain to be complete in the '3 level dasa only' is given in the Attachment -II.

4. For `coming back from abroad', to take the house grouping of 3,9,11 houses tested by KP rules or 2,4,11 or 2,8,11 is up to your preference as already discussed in this group.

Regards,

tw

ATTACHMENT- I

KONARK GOEL. : 21-07-1982, 03-45 Hrs, DELHI, 28N38, 77E17, Asc Gem 09:17:31 (NKPA 23:31:24)

4 Step Significators

Empty houses: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Me, Ke

Planets in own stars (*): Ma, Ra

Su conj 2

Ma conj 5

Me conj 2

Ve conj 1

Su conj Mo

Ve is aspected by Ju

Su aspects 8

Ma aspects 11

Ju aspects 1

Ve aspects 7

Planet Ke+: 7; Sgl Ju(5, 11, Asp Ve[12, Asp 7, Cnj 1], Asp 1)

Starlord of Ke is Ve: 12; Asp by Ju(5, 11, Asp 1); Asp 7; Cnj 1

Sublord of Ke is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Planet Ve: Cnj 1

Starlord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Planet Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2

Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

Sublord of Su is Sa:

Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)

Planet Mo:

Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

Sublord of Mo is Me+: 1; Cnj 2

Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1

Planet Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5

Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5

Sublord of Ma is Sa:

Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)

Planet Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Sublord of Ra is Mo:

Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

Planet Ju:

Starlord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Sublord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

Planet Sa:

Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)

Sublord of Sa is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2

Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

Planet Me+: 1; Cnj 2

Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1

Sublord of Me is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2

Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

ATTACHMENT- II

In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running Dasa lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary significator of any of the required houses other than already signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing house to make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)

A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary significators of the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38, 46-47, 68, 80)

1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time of question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, if the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as the nodes are stronger than the planets.

3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA chain complete.

4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration (4th in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house).

Shri Raichur's Explanation

Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger' steps 3 and 4.

The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).

For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast moving, the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus common sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.

Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

, "shivendra56" <shivendra56 wrote:>> Respected Members,> > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > case. The details are here as under: -> Name: KONARK GOEL.> Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > POB: DELHI> > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > 11, 12, 1.> 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2.> 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2.> > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.> The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer-Mer > compelled him to go abroad.> Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon-Mer should be the period for him to come > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > With regards.>

February 9, 2008

Dear Mr Rao3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a person returning from abroad. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Shivendra, As per K.P., one

will settle abroad,if : 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and III.... also, 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies XII...strongly along with III & XII. For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion... With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao. shivendra56 <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM Kindly correct me and oblige. Respected Members,With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the case. The details are here as under: -Name: KONARK GOEL.Date of birth: 21-07-1982. TOB: 03-45

Hrs. POB: DELHIThe significators as per four step theory are: -House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in their star: KETU, SUN and MER.Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 12. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 113. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, 11, 12, 1.5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 18. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.Sir,

Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad

besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- Mer compelled him to go abroad.Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the sukshma. Thus

Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to come back during 11 to 21-03-2009.Kindly correct me and oblige.With regards. Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. raichur anant

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February 9, 2008

Dear Mr.Raichur,

In an old article KSK had analysed " When will we reach home?" ,in which he had used the houses I,IV & XI to arrive at the result...could this be applied to return home (from abroad)...?

Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very important point...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from home...

I shall be grateful if this discrepancy or problem can be solved...

With highest regards,

L.Y.Rao.

Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PMRe: Kindly correct me and oblige.

Dear Mr Rao3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a person returning from abroad. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Shivendra,

As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :

1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and III..... also,

2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies XII...strongly along with III & XII.

For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM Kindly correct me and oblige.

Respected Members,With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the case. The details are here as under: -Name: KONARK GOEL.Date of birth: 21-07-1982. TOB: 03-45 Hrs. POB: DELHIThe significators as per four step theory are: -House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in their star: KETU, SUN and MER.Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 12. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 113. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, 11, 12, 1.5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2,

3, 4.6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 18. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in

its star lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- Mer compelled him to go abroad.Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in

own star but is conjoined with 5th house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to come back during 11 to 21-03-2009.Kindly correct me and oblige.With regards.

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February 9, 2008

Dear Friends,

Shri Bhatt's view is the same: (11,8,12 are detrimental houses to 3,9,12 harmonious houses for foreign travel (Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page 22). 12,9,3 for foreign travel; 11,8,12 to stay in motherland. (Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page 15)

Regards,

tw

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Dear Mr Rao> 3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a person returning from abroad. > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Shivendra,> As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :> 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and III.... also,> 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies XII...strongly along with III & XII.> For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > shivendra56 shivendra56 > Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM> Kindly correct me and oblige.> > Respected Members,> > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > case. The details are here as under: -> Name: KONARK GOEL.> Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > POB: DELHI> > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > 11, 12, 1.> 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2.> 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2.> > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.> The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- Mer > compelled him to go abroad.> Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to come > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > With regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > > > > raichur anant mumbai> > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.>

February 9, 2008

Sir, Since 2 years in abroad. I want to come back to India for permanent settlement. In this regard I have posted my querry several times, please predict my case as whether I will settle in Motherland orabroad through horary. Regards, RamRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Mr Rao3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return from

abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a person returning from abroad. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shivendra, As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if : 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and III.... also, 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies XII...strongly

along with III & XII. For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. -----

Original Message ----shivendra56 <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM Kindly correct me and oblige. Respected Members,With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the case. The details are here as under: -Name: KONARK GOEL.Date of birth: 21-07-1982. TOB: 03-45 Hrs. POB: DELHIThe significators as per four step theory are: -House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in their star: KETU, SUN and MER.Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 12. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10,

11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 113. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, 11, 12, 1.5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 18. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no

planet in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- Mer compelled him to go abroad.Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so

Moon should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to come back during 11 to 21-03-2009.Kindly correct me and oblige.With regards. Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. raichur anant mumbai Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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February 10, 2008

Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

1. This is in KP Reader VI, page 134-137, under heading, TRAINING

RUNNING LATE: TRACK DAMAGED; WHEN WILL IT REACH HOME? -- is to reach

home in ajourney and it seems nothing to do with return from abroad.

4th cuspal sublord of signification of 4 and 11 houses are

considered. And it's also mentioned that " for events which are to

happen in a day or , there is no meaning in calculatinn dasa

balance " , ie. DBA is not applicale.

2. As already mentioned in Msg#16442, as per Shri Bhatt:

1) 11,8,12 are detrimental houses to 3,9,12 harmonious houses for

foreign travel (Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page

22).

2) 12,9,3 for foreign travel; 11,8,12 to stay in motherland.

(Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page

15)

3. Could you kindly give the reference, name of the book and page

no., for your quotation below--

....incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt has used the

houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from home...

because it can't be found in his books.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Raichur,

> In an old article KSK had analysed "

When will we reach home? " ,in which he had used the houses I,IV & XI

to arrive at the result...could this be applied to return home (from

abroad)...?

> Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very

important point...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt

has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from

home...

> I shall be grateful if this discrepancy

or problem can be solved...

> With highest regards,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar

>

> Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PM

> Re: Kindly correct me and oblige.

>

> Dear Mr Rao

> 3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will

signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return

from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a

person returning from abroad.

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> Dear Shivendra,

> As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :

> 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and

III.... also,

> 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies

XII...strongly along with III & XII.

> For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII

should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>

> @gro ups.com

> Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM

> Kindly correct me and oblige.

>

> Respected Members,

>

> With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the

> case. The details are here as under: -

> Name: KONARK GOEL.

> Date of birth: 21-07-1982.

> TOB: 03-45 Hrs.

> POB: DELHI

>

> The significators as per four step theory are: -

>

> House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in

> their star: KETU, SUN and MER.

> Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th,

> Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc

> besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.

> S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step

> 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1

> 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6,

> 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

> 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9,

> 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

> 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5,

> 11, 12, 1.

> 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

> 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> 1, 2.

> 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1

> 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.

> 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> 1, 2.

>

> Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at

> 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether

he

> will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9

should

> signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine

> aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu

Sub.

> Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The

> signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.

> The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet

> in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer

is

> in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12,

> lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its

star

> lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord

of 9

> in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3,

9 &

> 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad

> besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of

4

> also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own

sign

> conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9

&

> 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer-

Mer

> compelled him to go abroad.

> Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in

> operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star,

Sat

> is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so

Moon

> should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11

> besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house.

Moon

> & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with

5th

> house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again

> strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is

> concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the

> sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to

come

> back during 11 to 21-03-2009.

>

> Kindly correct me and oblige.

>

> With regards.

>

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>

> raichur anant mumbai

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February 10, 2008

Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

Further to my mail,

if you mean Shri Bhatt's saying:

"If the cuspal sublord of 12 be the significator of 3,9 or12, a person runs away during the joint period of the significators of 3,9 and 12."

"If the cuspal sublord of 11 be the significator of 2,8 or11, a person return home during the joint period of the significators of 2,8 and 11."

it's the same (no discrepancy at all) as in KP Reader VI, page 309-311, under the heading "Return of Missing Son."

This case doesn't seem applicable for a return from abroad.

Regards,

tw , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > 1. This is in KP Reader VI, page 134-137, under heading, TRAINING > RUNNING LATE: TRACK DAMAGED; WHEN WILL IT REACH HOME? -- is to reach > home in ajourney and it seems nothing to do with return from abroad. > 4th cuspal sublord of signification of 4 and 11 houses are > considered. And it's also mentioned that "for events which are to > happen in a day or , there is no meaning in calculatinn dasa > balance", ie. DBA is not applicale.> > 2. As already mentioned in Msg#16442, as per Shri Bhatt:> > 1) 11,8,12 are detrimental houses to 3,9,12 harmonious houses for > foreign travel (Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > 22). > > 2) 12,9,3 for foreign travel; 11,8,12 to stay in motherland. > (Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > 15) > > 3. Could you kindly give the reference, name of the book and page > no., for your quotation below-- > > ...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt has used the > houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from home...> > because it can't be found in his books.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Mr.Raichur,> > In an old article KSK had analysed " > When will we reach home?" ,in which he had used the houses I,IV & XI > to arrive at the result...could this be applied to return home (from > abroad)...?> > Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very > important point...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt > has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from > home...> > I shall be grateful if this discrepancy > or problem can be solved...> > With highest regards,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@> > > > Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PM> > Re: Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > Dear Mr Rao> > 3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will > signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return > from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a > person returning from abroad. > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > Dear Shivendra,> > As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :> > 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and > III.... also,> > 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies > XII...strongly along with III & XII.> > For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII > should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM> > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > > > Respected Members,> > > > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > > case. The details are here as under: -> > Name: KONARK GOEL.> > Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > > POB: DELHI> > > > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > > > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> > 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, > > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > > 11, 12, 1.> > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > > > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at > > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether > he > > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 > should > > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu > Sub. > > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The > > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.> > The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer > is > > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, > > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its > star > > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord > of 9 > > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, > 9 & > > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of > 4 > > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own > sign > > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 > & > > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- > Mer > > compelled him to go abroad.> > Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in > > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, > Sat > > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so > Moon > > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. > Moon > > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with > 5th > > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to > come > > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > > > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > With regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant mumbai> > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search.> > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/> >>

February 10, 2008

dear shri.rao,

the houses 2-8-11 are to be seen when person is missing and the time of return

to be seen from these houses.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 2/9/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear Mr.Raichur,

In an old article KSK had analysed " When will we reach home? " ,in which he had used the houses I,IV & XI to arrive at the result...could this be applied to return home (from abroad)...?

Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very important point...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from home...

I shall be grateful if this discrepancy or problem can be solved...

With highest regards,

L.Y.Rao.

Raichur-a-r <raichurar

Sent: Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PM

Re: Kindly correct me and oblige.

Dear Mr Rao3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a person returning from abroad.

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Shivendra,

As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :

1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and III..... also,

2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies XII...strongly along with III & XII.

For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>

@gro ups.comThursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM Kindly correct me and oblige.

Respected Members,With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the case. The details are here as under: -Name: KONARK GOEL.Date of birth: 21-07-1982. TOB: 03-45 Hrs. POB: DELHI

The significators as per four step theory are: -House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in their star: KETU, SUN and MER.Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th,

Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 12. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6,

8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 113. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, 11, 12, 1.5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

1, 2. 2, 3, 4.6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 18. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at

23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub.

Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is

in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 &

12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 &

10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- Mer compelled him to go abroad.Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat

is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th

house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to come

back during 11 to 21-03-2009.Kindly correct me and oblige.With regards.

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Dear RaoKSK,s use of 1,4,and 11 seems logical. You can try it. If you have the inclination/time a member has given me the dates of his travel to foren, and return. Some 7 data. He has given his Birth Data, and I have calculated the DBAS for these dates. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Raichur, In an old article KSK had analysed " When will we reach home?" ,in which he had used the houses I,IV & XI to arrive at the result...could this be applied to return home (from abroad)...? Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very important point...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from home... I shall be grateful if this discrepancy or problem can be solved... With highest regards, L.Y.Rao. Raichur-a-r <raichurar >To:

Sent: Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PMRe: Kindly correct me and oblige. Dear Mr Rao3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a person returning from abroad. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shivendra, As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :

1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and III..... also, 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies XII...strongly along with III & XII. For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion... With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao. shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM Kindly correct me and oblige. Respected Members,With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the case. The details are here as under: -Name: KONARK GOEL.Date of birth: 21-07-1982. TOB: 03-45 Hrs.

POB: DELHIThe significators as per four step theory are: -House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in their star: KETU, SUN and MER.Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 12. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 113. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, 11, 12, 1.5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 18. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.Sir, Native

went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad

besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- Mer compelled him to go abroad.Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the sukshma. Thus

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On page 310 the example uses 2(family) 8(4to5),11(reunion)So it is not house 8 , but 4. Since the question is re son the example takes 4th house from 5, which is 8 in this case.I beleive 2,4,11 are the houses to be considered, even from abroad tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, Further to my mail, if you mean Shri Bhatt's saying: "If the cuspal sublord of 12 be the significator of 3,9 or12, a person runs away during the joint period of the significators of 3,9 and

12.If the cuspal sublord of 11 be the significator of 2,8 or11, a person return home during the joint period of the significators of 2,8 and 11." it's the same (no discrepancy at all) as in KP Reader VI, page 309-311, under the heading "Return of Missing Son." This case doesn't seem applicable for a return from abroad. Regards, tw , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > 1. This is in KP Reader VI, page 134-137, under heading, TRAINING > RUNNING LATE: TRACK DAMAGED; WHEN WILL IT REACH HOME? -- is to reach > home in ajourney and it seems nothing to do with return from abroad. > 4th cuspal sublord of signification of 4 and 11 houses are > considered. And it's also mentioned that "for events which are to > happen in a day or , there is no meaning

in calculatinn dasa > balance", ie. DBA is not applicale.> > 2. As already mentioned in Msg#16442, as per Shri Bhatt:> > 1) 11,8,12 are detrimental houses to 3,9,12 harmonious houses for > foreign travel (Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > 22). > > 2) 12,9,3 for foreign travel; 11,8,12 to stay in motherland. > (Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > 15) > > 3. Could you kindly give the reference, name of the book and page > no., for your quotation below-- > > ...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt has used the > houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from home...> > because it can't be found in his books.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr.Raichur,> > In an old article KSK had analysed " > When will we reach home?" ,in which he had used the houses I,IV & XI > to arrive at the result...could this be applied to return home (from > abroad)...?> > Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very > important point...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt > has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from > home...> > I shall be grateful if this discrepancy > or problem can be solved...> > With highest regards,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@> > > > Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PM> > Re: Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > Dear

Mr Rao> > 3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will > signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return > from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a > person returning from abroad. > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > Dear Shivendra,> > As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :> > 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and > III.... also,> > 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies > XII...strongly along with III & XII.> > For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII > should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>> > To:

@gro ups.com> > Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM> > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > > > Respected Members,> > > > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > > case. The details are here as under: -> > Name: KONARK GOEL.> > Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > > POB: DELHI> > > > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > > > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> > 1. KETU

7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, > > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > > 11, 12, 1.> > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > > > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at > > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether > he > > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 > should > > signify 3, 9 or

12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu > Sub. > > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The > > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.> > The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer > is > > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, > > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its > star > > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord > of 9 > > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, > 9 & > > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of

> 4 > > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own > sign > > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 > & > > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- > Mer > > compelled him to go abroad.> > Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in > > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, > Sat > > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so > Moon > > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. > Moon > > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with > 5th > > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > > strongly signify to 4

including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to > come > > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > > > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > With regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant mumbai> > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search.> > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

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Esteemed sir First let me pay my heartiest thanks for guidance. Further I have gone through the dis cussion of Friday, Sat and Sunday up to Shri Richur ji who advised to take house 2, 4 & 11 for return from abroad. You have alrady advise me to take these houses according to my preferance. I had applied as you guide me the significators here as under: - Mer: signify 2 & 11 at 1st and 2 level. Rahu: signify 1 & 2 level besides 4 at 4th level. Mars: signify 4 & 11 at 1 and 2nd level. So, native should return from abroad during Mer-Rahu-Mars period between 12-04-09 to 6-06-09. As for as transit is concerned, Mer and Mars should be checked at star level and Rahu should be checked at Sub level. Kindly correct me. with regards. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Shivendra, 1. For some corrections in your 'significators as per four step theory', the 4 step significators as per 4 Step book by KPAstro 3.0 (explained in the 4 Step note in the file section of this group as well as the refined version in KP E-Zine, www.loger.com) are provided in the Attachment -I. The main difference is to take aspects within the prescribed orb 3deg:20min. 2. Going abroad, if 12 CSL signifies 3,9,12 & supporting 5,7

houses. (with 10 going abroad for job; 6= unfavorable house) (4 Step book, pages 65-67, 71-72) 3. The approach to choose the DBA chain to be complete in the '3 level dasa only' is given in the Attachment -II. 4. For `coming back from abroad', to take the house grouping of 3,9,11 houses tested by KP rules or 2,4,11 or 2,8,11 is up to your preference as already discussed in this group. Regards, tw ATTACHMENT- I KONARK GOEL. : 21-07-1982, 03-45 Hrs, DELHI, 28N38, 77E17, Asc Gem 09:17:31 (NKPA 23:31:24) 4 Step

Significators Empty houses: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Me, Ke Planets in own stars (*): Ma, Ra Su conj 2 Ma conj 5 Me conj 2 Ve conj

1 Su conj Mo Ve is aspected by Ju Su aspects 8 Ma aspects 11 Ju aspects 1 Ve aspects 7 Planet Ke+: 7; Sgl Ju(5,

11, Asp Ve[12, Asp 7, Cnj 1], Asp 1) Starlord of Ke is Ve: 12; Asp by Ju(5, 11, Asp 1); Asp 7; Cnj 1 Sublord of Ke is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Planet Ve: Cnj 1 Starlord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Starlord

of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Planet Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2 Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10 Sublord of Su is Sa: Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2) Planet Mo: Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10 Sublord of Mo is Me+: 1; Cnj 2 Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1 Planet Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5 Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5 Sublord of Ma is Sa: Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2) Planet Ra*: 1; Sgl

Me(1, Cnj 2) Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Sublord of Ra is Mo: Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10 Planet Ju: Starlord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Sublord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2) Planet Sa: Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2) Sublord of Sa is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2 Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10 Planet Me+: 1; Cnj 2 Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1 Sublord

of Me is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2 Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10 ATTACHMENT- II In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running Dasa lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary significator of any of the required houses other than already signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the Antara lord, which is a

primary significator of the missing house to make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32) A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary significators of the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38, 46-47, 68, 80) 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time of question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, if the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign; 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as the nodes are stronger than the

planets. 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA chain complete. 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration (4th in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house). Shri Raichur's Explanation Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger' steps 3 and 4. The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa). For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast moving, the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus common sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event. Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only. , "shivendra56" <shivendra56 wrote:>> Respected Members,> > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > case. The details are here as under: -> Name: KONARK GOEL.> Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > POB: DELHI> > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> 3. SUN 2, 4,

3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > 11, 12, 1.> 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2.> 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > 1, 2.> > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel

abroad.> The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer-Mer > compelled him to go abroad.> Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in >

operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon-Mer should be the period for him to come > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > With regards.>

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Dear Shivendra Tiwari ji,

1. Theoractically, I'm wodreing whether one will leave the present

place of residence for another place without the signification of

3rd house on the basics of the following:

1) KP Reader VI page 309: During the period of the signification of

the 7th house and 3rd house, one will be making many short journeys

and one will be braeking journey on the way.

2) KP Reader VI page 135: If the question is whether we will make a

journey, we have to judge the 3rd house.

3) Finding in Message #15977, Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:52 pm

2. It's also interesting whether one will make a long juorney to

come back from abroad to motherland without the signification of 9th

house.

3. Practically, I'd already made an attempt, which is presented in

Message #2630, Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:04 am.

4. The bottom line is up to the preference of an astrologer.

Regards,

tw

, Shivendra Tiwari

<shivendra56 wrote:

>

> Esteemed sir

> First let me pay my heartiest thanks for guidance. Further I

have gone through the dis cussion of Friday, Sat and Sunday up to

Shri Richur ji who advised to take house 2, 4 & 11 for return from

abroad. You have alrady advise me to take these houses according to

my preferance. I had applied as you guide me the significators here

as under: -

> Mer: signify 2 & 11 at 1st and 2 level.

> Rahu: signify 1 & 2 level besides 4 at 4th level.

> Mars: signify 4 & 11 at 1 and 2nd level.

> So, native should return from abroad during Mer-Rahu-Mars period

between 12-04-09 to 6-06-09.

> As for as transit is concerned, Mer and Mars should be checked

at star level and Rahu should be checked at Sub level.

> Kindly correct me.

> with regards.

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Shivendra,

> 1. For some corrections in your 'significators as per four step

theory', the 4 step significators as per 4 Step book by KPAstro

3.0 (explained in the 4 Step note in the file section of this group

as well as the refined version in KP E-Zine, www.loger.com)

are provided in the Attachment -I. The main difference is to take

aspects within the prescribed orb 3deg:20min.

> 2. Going abroad, if 12 CSL signifies 3,9,12 & supporting 5,7

houses. (with 10 going abroad for job; 6= unfavorable house) (4

Step book, pages 65-67, 71-72)

> 3. The approach to choose the DBA chain to be complete in the '3

level dasa only' is given in the Attachment -II.

> 4. For `coming back from abroad', to take the house grouping of

3,9,11 houses tested by KP rules or 2,4,11 or 2,8,11 is up to your

preference as already discussed in this group.

> Regards,

> tw

>

> ATTACHMENT- I

> KONARK GOEL. : 21-07-1982, 03-45 Hrs, DELHI, 28N38, 77E17, Asc

Gem 09:17:31 (NKPA 23:31:24)

> 4 Step Significators

>

> Empty houses: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Me, Ke

> Planets in own stars (*): Ma, Ra

>

> Su conj 2

> Ma conj 5

> Me conj 2

> Ve conj 1

> Su conj Mo

>

> Ve is aspected by Ju

>

> Su aspects 8

> Ma aspects 11

> Ju aspects 1

> Ve aspects 7

>

> Planet Ke+: 7; Sgl Ju(5, 11, Asp Ve[12, Asp 7, Cnj 1], Asp 1)

> Starlord of Ke is Ve: 12; Asp by Ju(5, 11, Asp 1); Asp 7; Cnj 1

> Sublord of Ke is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

>

> Planet Ve: Cnj 1

> Starlord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

> Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

>

> Planet Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2

> Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

> Sublord of Su is Sa:

> Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)

>

> Planet Mo:

> Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

> Sublord of Mo is Me+: 1; Cnj 2

> Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1

>

> Planet Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5

> Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5

> Sublord of Ma is Sa:

> Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)

>

> Planet Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

> Sublord of Ra is Mo:

> Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

>

> Planet Ju:

> Starlord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

> Sublord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)

>

> Planet Sa:

> Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)

> Sublord of Sa is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2

> Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

>

> Planet Me+: 1; Cnj 2

> Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1

> Sublord of Me is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2

> Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10

>

> ATTACHMENT- II

> In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running

Dasa lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required

houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat

the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave

this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which

is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it

is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary

significator of any of the required houses other than already

signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the

Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing house to

make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required

houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)

> A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary

significators of the required houses as given under: (4 Step book,

pages 37-38, 46-47, 68, 80)

>

> 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time

of question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara,

if the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the

last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

> 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as

the nodes are stronger than the planets.

> 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is

primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a

supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA

chain complete.

> 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator

of the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration

(4th in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving

preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary

significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house).

>

> Shri Raichur's Explanation

>

> Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord

signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger'

steps 3 and 4.

> The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving

Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA

Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the

period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).

> For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast

moving, the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus

common sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.

> Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is

determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

>

> , " shivendra56 " <shivendra56@>

wrote:

> >

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the

> > case. The details are here as under: -

> > Name: KONARK GOEL.

> > Date of birth: 21-07-1982.

> > TOB: 03-45 Hrs.

> > POB: DELHI

> >

> > The significators as per four step theory are: -

> >

> > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in

> > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.

> > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th,

> > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc

> > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.

> > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step

> > 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1

> > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6,

> > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

> > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9,

> > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

> > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5,

> > 11, 12, 1.

> > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

> > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> > 1, 2.

> > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1

> > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.

> > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> > 1, 2.

> >

> > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008

at

> > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether

he

> > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9

should

> > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine

> > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu

Sub.

> > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The

> > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.

> > The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet

> > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house.

Mer is

> > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from

12,

> > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its

star

> > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord

of 9

> > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11 & 12. Thus signify

3, 9 &

> > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad

> > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL

of 4

> > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own

sign

> > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8,

9 &

> > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-

Mer-Mer

> > compelled him to go abroad.

> > Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in

> > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun

star, Sat

> > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so

Moon

> > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11

> > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house.

Moon

> > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with

5th

> > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again

> > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is

> > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the

> > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon-Mer should be the period for him to

come

> > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.

> >

> > Kindly correct me and oblige.

> >

> > With regards.

> >

>

> Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online.

>

February 11, 2008

Dear Shivendra Tiwari ji,

Regarding your choice of Me-Ra-Ma DBA for signififators of 2,4,11,

1) Me is a primary significator of all houses except 6th house, similar to Mo except 3 and 6 houses, and so current running Dasa lord Me is possible for all (except 6th house) matters including the required 2,4,11 houses;

2) Current running Bhukti Rahu is of 1,2,4,8,9,10 houses, including the required 2,4 houses;

3) Current running Antara Me is possible for all (except 6th house) matters; next antara is Ke primarily signifying 7,5,11,12,1,2 houses; then antara Ve primarily signifying only 1,2 houses, exactly the same as Ju; then antara Su primarily signifying 2,3,8,4,9,10 houses, exactly the same as Sa; then antara Mo is possible for all (except 3 & 6 houses) matters; then finally antara Ma primarily signifying 4,6,11,5,2,3,8 houses. In choosing 2,4,11 signification, Mo signifying 4th house in 2nd step, 2nd house in 3rd step & 11th house in 4th step may be more reasonable than Ma signifying 4 & 11 houses in 1st and 2nd steps and 2nd house in 4th step because 3rd & 4th steps are supposed to be stronger. (It's interesting that only Ma is a primary significator of 6th house in this horoscope.)

4) Regarding transit check, all planets signify 2 or 4 or 11 in 1st & 2nd steps, and the only thing is to take into consideration of retrograde of Ve & Sa during the period chosen.

Regards,

tw

P.S. Perhaps even though mother is worried, son is very happy to leave for New Jersy near New York like to see someone waiting for him.

, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Shivendra Tiwari ji,> > 1. Theoractically, I'm wodreing whether one will leave the present > place of residence for another place without the signification of > 3rd house on the basics of the following:> > 1) KP Reader VI page 309: During the period of the signification of > the 7th house and 3rd house, one will be making many short journeys > and one will be braeking journey on the way. > > 2) KP Reader VI page 135: If the question is whether we will make a > journey, we have to judge the 3rd house.> > 3) Finding in Message #15977, Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:52 pm > > 2. It's also interesting whether one will make a long juorney to > come back from abroad to motherland without the signification of 9th > house. > > 3. Practically, I'd already made an attempt, which is presented in > Message #2630, Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:04 am. > > 4. The bottom line is up to the preference of an astrologer.> > Regards,> > tw> > > > > , Shivendra Tiwari > shivendra56@ wrote:> >> > Esteemed sir> > First let me pay my heartiest thanks for guidance. Further I > have gone through the dis cussion of Friday, Sat and Sunday up to > Shri Richur ji who advised to take house 2, 4 & 11 for return from > abroad. You have alrady advise me to take these houses according to > my preferance. I had applied as you guide me the significators here > as under: -> > Mer: signify 2 & 11 at 1st and 2 level.> > Rahu: signify 1 & 2 level besides 4 at 4th level.> > Mars: signify 4 & 11 at 1 and 2nd level.> > So, native should return from abroad during Mer-Rahu-Mars period > between 12-04-09 to 6-06-09.> > As for as transit is concerned, Mer and Mars should be checked > at star level and Rahu should be checked at Sub level. > > Kindly correct me.> > with regards. > > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear Shivendra,> > 1. For some corrections in your 'significators as per four step > theory', the 4 step significators as per 4 Step book by KPAstro > 3.0 (explained in the 4 Step note in the file section of this group > as well as the refined version in KP E-Zine, www.loger.com) > are provided in the Attachment -I. The main difference is to take > aspects within the prescribed orb 3deg:20min. > > 2. Going abroad, if 12 CSL signifies 3,9,12 & supporting 5,7 > houses. (with 10 going abroad for job; 6= unfavorable house) (4 > Step book, pages 65-67, 71-72)> > 3. The approach to choose the DBA chain to be complete in the '3 > level dasa only' is given in the Attachment -II.> > 4. For `coming back from abroad', to take the house grouping of > 3,9,11 houses tested by KP rules or 2,4,11 or 2,8,11 is up to your > preference as already discussed in this group.> > Regards,> > tw> > > > ATTACHMENT- I> > KONARK GOEL. : 21-07-1982, 03-45 Hrs, DELHI, 28N38, 77E17, Asc > Gem 09:17:31 (NKPA 23:31:24)> > 4 Step Significators> > > > Empty houses: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Me, Ke> > Planets in own stars (*): Ma, Ra> > > > Su conj 2> > Ma conj 5> > Me conj 2> > Ve conj 1> > Su conj Mo> > > > Ve is aspected by Ju> > > > Su aspects 8> > Ma aspects 11> > Ju aspects 1> > Ve aspects 7> > > > Planet Ke+: 7; Sgl Ju(5, 11, Asp Ve[12, Asp 7, Cnj 1], Asp 1)> > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 12; Asp by Ju(5, 11, Asp 1); Asp 7; Cnj 1> > Sublord of Ke is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > > > Planet Ve: Cnj 1> > Starlord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > > > Planet Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2> > Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > Sublord of Su is Sa:> > Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)> > > > Planet Mo:> > Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > Sublord of Mo is Me+: 1; Cnj 2> > Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1> > > > Planet Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5> > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5> > Sublord of Ma is Sa:> > Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)> > > > Planet Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Sublord of Ra is Mo:> > Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > > > Planet Ju:> > Starlord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Sublord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > > > Planet Sa:> > Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)> > Sublord of Sa is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2> > Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > > > Planet Me+: 1; Cnj 2> > Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1> > Sublord of Me is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2> > Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > > > > > ATTACHMENT- II> > In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running > Dasa lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required > houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat > the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave > this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which > is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it > is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary > significator of any of the required houses other than already > signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the > Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing house to > make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required > houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)> > A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary > significators of the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, > pages 37-38, 46-47, 68, 80) > > > > 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time > of question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, > if the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the > last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign; > > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as > the nodes are stronger than the planets. > > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is > primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a > supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA > chain complete. > > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator > of the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration > (4th in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving > preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary > significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house). > > > > Shri Raichur's Explanation> > > > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord > signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger' > steps 3 and 4. > > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving > Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA > Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the > period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).> > For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast > moving, the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus > common sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.> > Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is > determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.> > > > > > , "shivendra56" <shivendra56@> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Members,> > > > > > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > > > case. The details are here as under: -> > > Name: KONARK GOEL.> > > Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > > > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > > > POB: DELHI> > > > > > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > > > > > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > > > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> > > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > > > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > > > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> > > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> > > 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> > > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > > > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> > > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, > > > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > > > 11, 12, 1.> > > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > > 1, 2.> > > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> > > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> > > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > > 1, 2.> > > > > > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 > at > > > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether > he > > > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 > should > > > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > > > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu > Sub. > > > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The > > > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.> > > The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > > > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. > Mer is > > > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from > 12, > > > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its > star > > > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord > of 9 > > > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11 & 12. Thus signify > 3, 9 & > > > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > > > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL > of 4 > > > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own > sign > > > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, > 9 & > > > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-> Mer-Mer > > > compelled him to go abroad.> > > Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in > > > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun > star, Sat > > > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so > Moon > > > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > > > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. > Moon > > > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with > 5th > > > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > > > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > > > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > > > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon-Mer should be the period for him to > come > > > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > > > > > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > > > With regards.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > >>

February 11, 2008

Respected sir Thanks for the same with regards yours.tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Shivendra Tiwari ji,1. Theoractically, I'm wodreing whether one will leave the present place of residence for another place without the signification of 3rd house on the basics of the following:1) KP Reader VI page 309: During the period of the signification of the 7th house and 3rd house, one will be making many short journeys and one will be braeking journey on the way. 2) KP

Reader VI page 135: If the question is whether we will make a journey, we have to judge the 3rd house.3) Finding in Message #15977, Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:52 pm 2. It's also interesting whether one will make a long juorney to come back from abroad to motherland without the signification of 9th house. 3. Practically, I'd already made an attempt, which is presented in Message #2630, Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:04 am. 4. The bottom line is up to the preference of an astrologer.Regards,tw , Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote:>> Esteemed sir> First let me pay my heartiest thanks for guidance. Further I have gone through the dis cussion of Friday, Sat and Sunday up to Shri Richur ji who advised to take house 2, 4 & 11 for return from abroad. You have alrady advise me to take

these houses according to my preferance. I had applied as you guide me the significators here as under: -> Mer: signify 2 & 11 at 1st and 2 level.> Rahu: signify 1 & 2 level besides 4 at 4th level.> Mars: signify 4 & 11 at 1 and 2nd level.> So, native should return from abroad during Mer-Rahu-Mars period between 12-04-09 to 6-06-09.> As for as transit is concerned, Mer and Mars should be checked at star level and Rahu should be checked at Sub level. > Kindly correct me.> with regards. > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Shivendra,> 1. For some corrections in your 'significators as per four step theory', the 4 step significators as per 4 Step book by KPAstro 3.0 (explained in the 4 Step note in the file section of this group as well as the refined version in KP E-Zine, www.loger.com) are provided in the Attachment -I. The main difference

is to take aspects within the prescribed orb 3deg:20min. > 2. Going abroad, if 12 CSL signifies 3,9,12 & supporting 5,7 houses. (with 10 going abroad for job; 6= unfavorable house) (4 Step book, pages 65-67, 71-72)> 3. The approach to choose the DBA chain to be complete in the '3 level dasa only' is given in the Attachment -II.> 4. For `coming back from abroad', to take the house grouping of 3,9,11 houses tested by KP rules or 2,4,11 or 2,8,11 is up to your preference as already discussed in this group.> Regards,> tw> > ATTACHMENT- I> KONARK GOEL. : 21-07-1982, 03-45 Hrs, DELHI, 28N38, 77E17, Asc Gem 09:17:31 (NKPA 23:31:24)> 4 Step Significators> > Empty houses: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Me, Ke> Planets in own stars (*): Ma, Ra> > Su conj 2> Ma conj 5> Me conj 2> Ve conj

1> Su conj Mo> > Ve is aspected by Ju> > Su aspects 8> Ma aspects 11> Ju aspects 1> Ve aspects 7> > Planet Ke+: 7; Sgl Ju(5, 11, Asp Ve[12, Asp 7, Cnj 1], Asp 1)> Starlord of Ke is Ve: 12; Asp by Ju(5, 11, Asp 1); Asp 7; Cnj 1> Sublord of Ke is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Planet Ve: Cnj 1> Starlord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Planet Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2> Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> Sublord of Su is Sa:> Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)> > Planet Mo:> Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> Sublord of Mo is Me+: 1; Cnj 2> Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1> > Planet Ma*: 4;

6; Asp 11; Cnj 5> Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 4; 6; Asp 11; Cnj 5> Sublord of Ma is Sa:> Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)> > Planet Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> Sublord of Ra is Mo:> Starlord of Mo is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > Planet Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> Sublord of Ju is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 1; Sgl Me(1, Cnj 2)> > Planet Sa:> Starlord of Sa is Mo: 2; 3; Cnj Su(2, Asp 8, Cnj 2)> Sublord of Sa is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2> Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > Planet Me+: 1; Cnj 2> Starlord of Me is Ju: 5; 11; Asp Ve(12, Asp 7, Cnj 1); Asp 1> Sublord of Me is Su+: 2; Cnj Mo(2, 3); Asp 8; Cnj 2> Starlord of Su is Sa: 4; 8-9-10> > > ATTACHMENT- II> In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to

check whether the running Dasa lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary significator of any of the required houses other than already signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing house to make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)> A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary significators of the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38, 46-47, 68, 80) > > 1)

the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time of question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, if the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign; > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as the nodes are stronger than the planets. > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA chain complete. > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration (4th in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house). > > Shri

Raichur's Explanation> > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger' steps 3 and 4. > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).> For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast moving, the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus common sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.> Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.> > > , "shivendra56" <shivendra56@> wrote:> >> > Respected Members,>

> > > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > > case. The details are here as under: -> > Name: KONARK GOEL.> > Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > > POB: DELHI> > > > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > > > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> > 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9,

> > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > > 11, 12, 1.> > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > > > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at > > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether he > > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 should > > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu Sub. > > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The

> > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.> > The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer is > > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by Ven from 12, > > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its star > > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord of 9 > > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, 9 & > > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of 4 > > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own sign > > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 & > > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9

& 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer-Mer > > compelled him to go abroad.> > Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in > > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, Sat > > is in Moon star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so Moon > > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. Moon > > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with 5th > > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon-Mer should be the period for him to come > > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > >

> Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > With regards.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. >

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February 11, 2008

Respected sir I have taken 2, 4 & 11 because 2 family of the native (increase), home of native and 11 fulfilment of desire. thanks for correcting and oblising me. with regards yoursRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: On page 310 the example uses 2(family) 8(4to5),11(reunion)So it is not house 8 , but 4. Since the question is re son the example takes 4th house from 5, which is 8 in this case.I beleive 2,4,11 are the houses to be considered, even from

abroad tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, Further to my mail, if you mean Shri Bhatt's saying: "If the cuspal sublord of 12 be the significator of 3,9 or12, a person runs away during the joint period of the significators of 3,9 and 12.If the cuspal sublord of 11 be the significator of 2,8 or11, a person return home during the joint period of the significators of 2,8 and 11." it's the same (no discrepancy at all) as in KP Reader VI, page 309-311, under the heading "Return of Missing Son." This case doesn't seem applicable for a return from abroad. Regards, tw , "tw853" <tw853

wrote:>> Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > 1. This is in KP Reader VI, page 134-137, under heading, TRAINING > RUNNING LATE: TRACK DAMAGED; WHEN WILL IT REACH HOME? -- is to reach > home in ajourney and it seems nothing to do with return from abroad. > 4th cuspal sublord of signification of 4 and 11 houses are > considered. And it's also mentioned that "for events which are to > happen in a day or , there is no meaning in calculatinn dasa > balance", ie. DBA is not applicale.> > 2. As already mentioned in Msg#16442, as per Shri Bhatt:> > 1) 11,8,12 are detrimental houses to 3,9,12 harmonious houses for > foreign travel (Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > 22). > > 2) 12,9,3 for foreign travel; 11,8,12 to stay in motherland. > (Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > 15) > > 3. Could

you kindly give the reference, name of the book and page > no., for your quotation below-- > > ...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt has used the > houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from home...> > because it can't be found in his books.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Mr.Raichur,> > In an old article KSK had analysed " > When will we reach home?" ,in which he had used the houses I,IV & XI > to arrive at the result...could this be applied to return home (from > abroad)...?> > Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very > important point...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt > has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return from >

home...> > I shall be grateful if this discrepancy > or problem can be solved...> > With highest regards,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@> > > > Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PM> > Re: Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > Dear Mr Rao> > 3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to these 2,8,11 will > signify that the person has no chance of going abroad--NOT a return > from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with the question of a > person returning from abroad. > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > Dear Shivendra,> > As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :> > 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and > III....

also,> > 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies > XII...strongly along with III & XII.> > For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII > should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble opinion...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM> > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > > > Respected Members,> > > > With due respect, I have to request you to guide me in the > > case. The details are here as under: -> > Name: KONARK GOEL.> > Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > > POB: DELHI> > > > The significators as per

four step theory are: -> > > > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have no planets in > > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd, MARS with 5th, > > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to 6th, 11th and Asc > > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth Step> > 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, > > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6, 8, 9, > > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > > 11, 12, 1.> > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1

1> > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2.> > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > 1, 2.> > > > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America on 14 Jan 2008 at > > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to know as to whether > he > > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go abroad, CSL 9 > should > > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup and is in trine > > aspect from Ven lord of 12th house. Jup is in Rahu star and Rahu > Sub. > > Rahu is in own star. Hence Jup is strongly signified to Asc. The > > signification of Jup with 12 promises to travel abroad.> > The native is running DBA MER-RAHU-MER period. Mer, no planet > > in Mer star and is in own house but conjoined with 2nd house. Mer > is > > in Jup star in 5 lord of 11 and is being aspected by

Ven from 12, > > lord of 12. Further Mer is in Sub of Sun with no planet in its > star > > lord of 4 in 2 conjoined with moon lord of 3 in star of Sat lord > of 9 > > in 4. Thus Mer signify 1, 2,3,4,5,8,9, 10,11 & 12. Thus signify 3, > 9 & > > 12 besides 2, 8 & 11 means Mer is strong for sending him abroad > > besides returning him back to his native place since it is CSL of > 4 > > also. Rahu, is in own star and is in 1. It is in Moon sub in own > sign > > conjoined with Sun lord of 4 in the star of Sat in 4 lord of 8, 9 > & > > 10. Thus signify 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 & 10. In this way, Mer-Rahu-Mer- > Mer > > compelled him to go abroad.> > Return back to home, house 2, 4 and 11 should be in > > operation. Sun & Moon are occupant of 2nd house. Non in Sun star, > Sat > > is in Moon

star. Sun is in Sat sub while Moon is in Mer sub, so > Moon > > should be more powerful to back since strongly signify 2, 4 & 11 > > besides 3 negating to 4. Sat and Mars are occupant of 4th house. > Moon > > & Sun are in Sat star, Mars is in own star but is conjoined with > 5th > > house and more predominantly signify to 5th house. So Moon again > > strongly signify to 4 including 2 & 11. As for as 11 house is > > concerned, Mer is in Jup star Sun sub hence, Mer should be the > > sukshma. Thus Mer-Rahu-Moon- Mer should be the period for him to > come > > back during 11 to 21-03-2009.> > > > Kindly correct me and oblige.> > > > With regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click

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February 12, 2008

Dear friends,

Return from foreign also 03,07,09,12 are indicated.

This is tested by my self practically

Regards,

SankarRao

--- Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 wrote:

> Respected sir

> I have taken 2, 4 & 11 because 2 family of the

> native (increase), home of native and 11 fulfilment

> of desire.

> thanks for correcting and oblising me.

> with regards

> yours

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

> On page 310 the example uses 2(family)

> 8(4to5),11(reunion)

> So it is not house 8 , but 4. Since the question is

> re son the example takes 4th house from 5, which is

> 8 in this case.

> I beleive 2,4,11 are the houses to be considered,

> even from abroad

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

> Further to my mail,

> if you mean Shri Bhatt's saying:

> " If the cuspal sublord of 12 be the significator

> of 3,9 or12, a person runs away during the joint

> period of the significators of 3,9 and 12. "

> " If the cuspal sublord of 11 be the significator

> of 2,8 or11, a person return home during the joint

> period of the significators of 2,8 and 11. "

> it's the same (no discrepancy at all) as in KP

> Reader VI, page 309-311, under the heading " Return

> of Missing Son. "

> This case doesn't seem applicable for a return

> from abroad.

> Regards,

> tw

>

> , " tw853 "

> <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

> >

> > 1. This is in KP Reader VI, page 134-137, under

> heading, TRAINING

> > RUNNING LATE: TRACK DAMAGED; WHEN WILL IT REACH

> HOME? -- is to reach

> > home in ajourney and it seems nothing to do with

> return from abroad.

> > 4th cuspal sublord of signification of 4 and 11

> houses are

> > considered. And it's also mentioned that " for

> events which are to

> > happen in a day or , there is no meaning in

> calculatinn dasa

> > balance " , ie. DBA is not applicale.

> >

> > 2. As already mentioned in Msg#16442, as per Shri

> Bhatt:

> >

> > 1) 11,8,12 are detrimental houses to 3,9,12

> harmonious houses for

> > foreign travel (Nakshatra Chintamani by

> Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page

> > 22).

> >

> > 2) 12,9,3 for foreign travel; 11,8,12 to stay in

> motherland.

> > (Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by

> Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page

> > 15)

> >

> > 3. Could you kindly give the reference, name of

> the book and page

> > no., for your quotation below--

> >

> > ...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt

> has used the

> > houses II,VIII & XI to predict a person's return

> from home...

> >

> > because it can't be found in his books.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Yogesh Rao

> Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Raichur,

> > > In an old article KSK had analysed "

> > When will we reach home? " ,in which he had used

> the houses I,IV & XI

> > to arrive at the result...could this be applied to

> return home (from

> > abroad)...?

> > > Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very

> > important point...incidentally in his book Shri

> Chandrakant Bhatt

> > has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a

> person's return from

> > home...

> > > I shall be grateful if this discrepancy

> > or problem can be solved...

> > > With highest regards,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@

> > >

> > > Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PM

> > > Re: Kindly correct me and

> oblige.

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Rao

> > > 3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to

> these 2,8,11 will

> > signify that the person has no chance of going

> abroad--NOT a return

> > from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with

> the question of a

> > person returning from abroad.

> > >

> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > > Dear Shivendra,

> > > As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :

> > > 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and

> > III.... also,

> > > 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies

> > XII...strongly along with III & XII.

> > > For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII

> > should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble

> opinion...

> > > With best wishes,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM

> > > Kindly correct me and

> oblige.

> > >

> > > Respected Members,

> > >

> > > With due respect, I have to request you to guide

> me in the

> > > case. The details are here as under: -

> > > Name: KONARK GOEL.

> > > Date of birth: 21-07-1982.

> > > TOB: 03-45 Hrs.

> > > POB: DELHI

> > >

> > > The significators as per four step theory are: -

> > >

> > > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have

> no planets in

> > > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.

> > > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd,

> MARS with 5th,

> > > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to

> 6th, 11th and Asc

> > > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.

> > > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth

> Step

> > > 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1

> > > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

> 1, 2, 4, 6,

> > > 8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11

> > > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6,

> 8, 9,

> > > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

> > > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5,

> > > 11, 12, 1.

> > > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> > > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.

> > > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> > > 1, 2.

> > > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1

> > > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,

> 1, 2.

> > > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10,

> 11,

> > > 1, 2.

> > >

> > > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America

> on 14 Jan 2008 at

> > > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to

> know as to whether

> > he

> > > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go

> abroad, CSL 9

> > should

> > > signify 3, 9 or 12. In this case, 9th CSL is Jup

> and

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Respected Shri Rao, I will try to keep your advice with me to test the same. with regards yours siva sankar rao adigopula <sankar_kp_astro wrote: Dear friends,Return from foreign also 03,07,09,12 are indicated.This is tested by my self practicallyRegards,SankarRao--- Shivendra Tiwari <shivendra56 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Respected sir > I have taken 2, 4 & 11 because 2 family

of the> native (increase), home of native and 11 fulfilment> of desire.> thanks for correcting and oblising me.> with regards> yours> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:> On page 310 the example uses 2(family)> 8(4to5),11(reunion)> So it is not house 8 , but 4. Since the question is> re son the example takes 4th house from 5, which is> 8 in this case.> I beleive 2,4,11 are the houses to be considered,> even from abroad> > > tw853 <tw853 > wrote: > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> Further to my mail,> if you mean Shri Bhatt's saying:> "If the cuspal sublord of 12 be the significator> of 3,9 or12, a person runs away during the joint> period of the significators of 3,9 and 12."> "If the cuspal sublord

of 11 be the significator> of 2,8 or11, a person return home during the joint> period of the significators of 2,8 and 11."> it's the same (no discrepancy at all) as in KP> Reader VI, page 309-311, under the heading "Return> of Missing Son."> This case doesn't seem applicable for a return > from abroad.> Regards,> tw> > , "tw853"> <tw853 wrote:> >> > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > > > 1. This is in KP Reader VI, page 134-137, under> heading, TRAINING > > RUNNING LATE: TRACK DAMAGED; WHEN WILL IT REACH> HOME? -- is to reach > > home in ajourney and it seems nothing to do with> return from abroad. > > 4th cuspal sublord of signification of 4 and 11> houses are > > considered. And it's also

mentioned that "for> events which are to > > happen in a day or , there is no meaning in> calculatinn dasa > > balance", ie. DBA is not applicale.> > > > 2. As already mentioned in Msg#16442, as per Shri> Bhatt:> > > > 1) 11,8,12 are detrimental houses to 3,9,12> harmonious houses for > > foreign travel (Nakshatra Chintamani by> Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > > 22). > > > > 2) 12,9,3 for foreign travel; 11,8,12 to stay in> motherland. > > (Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by> Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page > > 15) > > > > 3. Could you kindly give the reference, name of> the book and page > > no., for your quotation below-- > > > > ...incidentally in his book Shri Chandrakant Bhatt> has used the > > houses II,VIII & XI to predict a

person's return> from home...> > > > because it can't be found in his books.> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao> Lajmi lyrastro1@ > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr.Raichur,> > > In an old article KSK had analysed " > > When will we reach home?" ,in which he had used> the houses I,IV & XI > > to arrive at the result...could this be applied to> return home (from > > abroad)...?> > > Kindly clarify,as you have raised a very > > important point...incidentally in his book Shri> Chandrakant Bhatt > > has used the houses II,VIII & XI to predict a> person's return from > > home...> > >

I shall be grateful if this discrepancy > > or problem can be solved...> > > With highest regards,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@> > > > > > Saturday, 9 February, 2008 12:14:51 PM> > > Re: Kindly correct me and> oblige.> > > > > > Dear Mr Rao> > > 3,9,12 signify a person going abroad. 12th to> these 2,8,11 will > > signify that the person has no chance of going> abroad--NOT a return > > from abroad. KSK has not specifically dealt with> the question of a > > person returning from abroad. > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:>

> > Dear Shivendra,> > > As per K.P., one will settle abroad,if :> > > 1) The s/l of XII signifies IX mainly,and > > III.... also,> > > 2) The s/l of the Ascendant signifies > > XII...strongly along with III & XII.> > > For return to Homeland,the s/l of XII > > should signify I,II,VIII & XI...in my humble> opinion...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shivendra56 <shivendra56@ .co. in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:24:48 PM> > > Kindly correct me and> oblige.> > > > > > > > > Respected Members,> > > > > > With due

respect, I have to request you to guide> me in the > > > case. The details are here as under: -> > > Name: KONARK GOEL.> > > Date of birth: 21-07-1982. > > > TOB: 03-45 Hrs. > > > POB: DELHI> > > > > > The significators as per four step theory are: -> > > > > > House vacant: 3, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11. Planets have> no planets in > > > their star: KETU, SUN and MER.> > > Conj: SUN with MOON, VEN with Asc, MER with 2nd,> MARS with 5th, > > > Aspects: Jup to Ven, Mars to 7 and 11, Sat to> 6th, 11th and Asc > > > besides Rahu and Sun & Moon to 6th.> > > S. No. PLANET Ist step IInd step IIIrd Step IVth> Step> > > 1. KETU 7 (5, 11 Jup) 12 , 1 1 1> > > 2. VEN 1 (Conj), 5, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> 1, 2, 4, 6, > > >

8, 9, 10, 11 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11> > > 3. SUN 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 4, 6,> 8, 9, > > > 10, 11, 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > > 4. MOON 2, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 1, 2. 1 5, > > > 11, 12, 1.> > > 5. MARS 5, 7, 11 5, 7, 11 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > > 1, 2. 2, 3, 4.> > > 6. RAHU 1 1 2, 3, 4. 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, > > > 1, 2.> > > 7. JUP 12, 1 1 1 1> > > 8. SAT 12, 1 2, 3, 4 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11,> 1, 2.> > > 9. MER 2 5, 11, 12, 1. 2, 4, 3 4, 6, 8, 9, 10,> 11, > > > 1, 2.> > > > > > Sir, Native went abroad i.e. NewZersi in America> on 14 Jan 2008 at > > > 23.50 hrs. The mother of native is anxious to> know as to whether > > he > > > will return back to India? If yes, when? To go> abroad, CSL 9 > > should

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