Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dear Friends, 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no KP 4 Step. Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekaris also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of myknowledge to him only. 2. To learn by Retrospection of the prediction the following case is presented for your comments. Thanks and regards, tw Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 DOJ: 07/08/07TOJ: 11-57-00POJ GURGAON Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP Asc Vi 26:06:40 Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008)Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, indicating delay. 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP, the following primary significators of DBA lords may be helpful. Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1Sublord of Su is Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, Cnj Mo{8}]) Planet Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,Cnj Mo{8}])Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan wrote:>> Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal,> > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be most grateful.> > Thank you so much,> > Krishnan Kambai> krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan wrote: Dear Raichur,> > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of any new developments.> > Regards> Krishnan> > Raichur-a-r raichurar wrote:> Dear Kambaikrishnan> As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep 2007.> Please give a feedback.> Good Luck> > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan wrote:> Dear Respected Members of the Group,> > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after> only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He> has been unemployed for the past few months.> > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be> re-employed again.> > His details are as follows:-> > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982> > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM )> > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > Horary No. from me: 123> > Thank you so much.> > Yours sincerely,> > Krishnan> > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dear TW,Further to the abovementioned case I would like to give you the latest developments for your further research.My son was told to come for an interview on the 16th January, 2008 by word of mouth but the secretary had inadvertently recorded the 17th as the interview date and so when my son went for the interview on the 16th January, 2007 he was told of the mistake and was told to come on the 17th January, 2008. After a few days he was asked to fax his last drawn pay slips and he had faxed as requested. My son has not got any reply as yet.Thank you so much.Regards,Krishnantw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Friends, 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no KP 4 Step. Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekaris also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of myknowledge to him only. 2. To learn by Retrospection of the prediction the following case is presented for your comments. Thanks and regards, tw Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 DOJ: 07/08/07TOJ: 11-57-00POJ GURGAON Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP Asc Vi 26:06:40 Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008)Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, indicating delay. 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP, the following primary significators of DBA lords may be helpful. Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1Sublord of Su is Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, Cnj Mo{8}]) Planet Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,Cnj Mo{8}])Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan wrote:>> Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal,> > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be most grateful.> > Thank you so much,> > Krishnan Kambai> krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan wrote: Dear Raichur,> > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of any new developments.> > Regards> Krishnan> > Raichur-a-r raichurar wrote:> Dear Kambaikrishnan> As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep 2007.> Please give a feedback.> Good Luck> > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan wrote:> Dear Respected Members of the Group,> > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after> only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He> has been unemployed for the past few months.> > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be> re-employed again.> > His details are as follows:-> > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982> > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM )> > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > Horary No. from me: 123> > Thank you so much.> > Yours sincerely,> > Krishnan> > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dear friends, These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and to give credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is scientific and gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my opinion it gives still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if introduced in future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person in the same manner Every one knows that in Kp, KSK used planet--its star lord--and its sublord 3step. Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of the sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely. In 4step Mr Gondhalekar used Planet--its star lord-- and its sublord and star lord of this sublord. So anybody who knows kp will agree that 1st 3 steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step method only 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp method by one step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though in short we say 4steps theory. After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 astrosecret), Mr Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord speaks) and so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those rules as kp rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research minded people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as addition to Kp, especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we all should apriciate the person. In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP = Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 STEP ONLY. Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of prediction Regards Dr Sheetal On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Friends, 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no KP 4 Step. Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekaris also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of myknowledge to him only. 2. To learn by Retrospection of the prediction the following case is presented for your comments. Thanks and regards, tw Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 DOJ: 07/08/07TOJ: 11-57-00POJ GURGAON Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP Asc Vi 26:06:40 Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008)Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, indicating delay. 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP, the following primary significators of DBA lords may be helpful. Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1Sublord of Su is Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, Cnj Mo{8}]) Planet Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,Cnj Mo{8}])Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan wrote:>> Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal,> > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be most grateful. > > Thank you so much,> > Krishnan Kambai> krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan wrote: Dear Raichur,> > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of any new developments. > > Regards> Krishnan> > Raichur-a-r raichurar wrote:> Dear Kambaikrishnan> As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep 2007.> Please give a feedback. > Good Luck> > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan wrote:> Dear Respected Members of the Group,> > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after> only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He > has been unemployed for the past few months.> > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be> re-employed again.> > His details are as follows:-> > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM )> > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > Horary No. from me: 123> > Thank you so much.> > Yours sincerely,> > Krishnan> > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Dear T Wyour mails are very instructive.Regardssujata--- On Mon, 4/2/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: Re-employment - - - RETROSPECTION Date: Monday, 4 February, 2008, 8:39 AM Dear Friends, 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no KP 4 Step. Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekaris also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of myknowledge to him only. 2. To learn by Retrospection of the prediction the following case is presented for your comments. Thanks and regards, tw Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 DOJ: 07/08/07TOJ: 11-57-00POJ GURGAON Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA- -JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP Asc Vi 26:06:40 Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008)Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, indicating delay. 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP, the following primary significators of DBA lords may be helpful. Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1Sublord of Su is Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, Cnj Mo{8}]) Planet Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,Cnj Mo{8}])Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 @gro ups.com, krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal,> > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be most grateful.> > Thank you so much,> > Krishnan Kambai> krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ ... wrote: Dear Raichur,> > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of any new developments.> > Regards> Krishnan> > Raichur-a-r raichurar@.. . wrote:> Dear Kambaikrishnan> As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep 2007.> Please give a feedback.> Good Luck> > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ ... wrote:> Dear Respected Members of the Group,> > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after> only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He> has been unemployed for the past few months.> > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be> re-employed again.> > His details are as follows:-> > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982> > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM )> > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > Horary No. from me: 123> > Thank you so much.> > Yours sincerely,> > Krishnan> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> > > http://mail. > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Dear Krishnan, 1. Thank you for your feedback, which is very helpful in learning KP. 2. It's supposed to be moving in the right direction to join the service in the near future. The delay effect of retrograde Venus in the Horary chart no. 123 had already expired on 12 Oct 2007 when Venus was back in direct motion and passed beyond thhe point wherefrom its retrograde motion motion started. Here is the same as found by Prof. Rajendra Kumar that "The sublord of the principle cusp if retrograde, or if deposited in the star or sub of a planet that is retrograde, will negate the result even though the retrograde planet is connected to Sun by the way of star lordship, or being within 30 degrees to the Sun". (Inference from a Honest Retrospection, K.P. & Astrology 2005, page 50) In the Horary chart no. 123, retrograde Venus is within 30 degrees to the Sun and Guruji KSK's teaching of retrograde in Horary is working and Dr. Kar's retrograde cancellation theory is not working. It shows that outright saying, bolder than Dr. Kar, of retrograde is not working in Horary is not yet conclusive and it is still open to further research. Perhaps Punarphoo effect of delay and requiring more tham one attempt is here but it doesn't deny the result and may give a better result. 3. His Natal chart: 18 January, 1982, 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ), Kuala Lumpur, Asc Sc 28:42:45, Moon Li 13:18:06 (NKA 23:30:58). The current running DBA is Sa-Sa-Ve (19 Sept 2007 to 20 Mar 2008) and then Sa-Sa-Su up to 14 May 2008. Sa+(10,3,4,+1,7) is in star Ma(10,1,5,12) & own sub Sa+(10,3,4,+1,7) (+ no planet in its star) Ve+(2,6,7,11,+4,5,8) is in star Su(2,10) & own sub Ve+(2,6,7,11,+4,5,8) Su(2,10) is in own star Su(2,10) & sub Ve+(2,6,7,11,+4,5,8) DBA lords are strong by being in own sub and star and having no planet in their stars. The signification of 1,3,5,12 indicates break and change in job. (1st= 12 to 2nd is not considered to be good for service in KP.) 4. In conclusion, it's expected to join service in Sa-Sa-Ve DBA before Mar 2008 or not later than 14 May 2008 (Sa-Sa-Su DBA). The KP top grade A significators at the planet level, star level and sub level can be found from the 4 Step significators as follows: (explained in details in 4 Step Note in KP E-Zine, www.loger.com) Planet Sa+: 10; 3-4; Asp 1; Asp 8; Cnj 11 (Plt level: 10,3,4 houses) Starlord of Sa is Ma: 10; 1-5-12 (Star level: 10,1,5,12 houses) Sublord of Sa is Sa+: 10; 3-4; Asp 1; Asp 8; Cnj 11 (Sub level: 10,3,4 houses) Starlord of Sa is Ma: 10; 1-5-12 Planet Ve+: 2; 6-7 (Plt level: 2,6,7 houses) Starlord of Ve is Su*: 2 (Star level: 2nd house) Sublord of Ve is Ve+: 2; 6-7 (Sub level: 2,6,7 houses) Starlord of Ve is Su*: 2 Planet Su*: 2 (Plt level: 2nd house) Starlord of Su is Su*: 2 (Star level: 2nd house) Sublord of Su is Sa+: 10; 3-4; Asp 1; Asp 8; Cnj 11 (Sub level: 10,3,4 houses) Starlord of Sa is Ma: 10; 1-5-12 Good luck to your son! Regards, tw , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan wrote:>> Dear TW,> > Further to the abovementioned case I would like to give you the latest developments for your further research.> > My son was told to come for an interview on the 16th January, 2008 by word of mouth but the secretary had inadvertently recorded the 17th as the interview date and so when my son went for the interview on the 16th January, 2007 he was told of the mistake and was told to come on the 17th January, 2008. After a few days he was asked to fax his last drawn pay slips and he had faxed as requested. > > My son has not got any reply as yet.> > Thank you so much.> > Regards,> > Krishnan> > > > tw853 tw853 wrote: > Dear Friends,> 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no KP 4 Step.> Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am> As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekar> is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my> knowledge to him only.> 2. To learn by Retrospection of the prediction the following case is presented for your comments.> Thanks and regards,> tw> > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am> I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 > DOJ: 07/08/07> TOJ: 11-57-00> POJ GURGAON> Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07> DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07> POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP> Asc Vi 26:06:40> Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008)> Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007)> 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, indicating delay.> 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008).> TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP, the following primary significators of DBA lords may be helpful.> Planet Su:> Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1> Sublord of Su is Ve:> Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, Cnj Mo{8}])> Planet Ve:> Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,> Cnj Mo{8}])> Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)> Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)> Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7> Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6> Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7> Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6> > > , krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote:> >> > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal,> > > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be most grateful.> > > > Thank you so much,> > > > Krishnan Kambai> > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur,> > > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of any new developments.> > > > Regards> > Krishnan> > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote:> > Dear Kambaikrishnan> > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep 2007.> > Please give a feedback.> > Good Luck> > > > > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote:> > Dear Respected Members of the Group,> > > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after> > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He> > has been unemployed for the past few months.> > > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be> > re-employed again.> > > > His details are as follows:-> > > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982> > > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM )> > > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > > > Horary No. from me: 123> > > > Thank you so much.> > > > Yours sincerely,> > > > Krishnan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Dear Friends, After having explained the 4 Step in a book-free clear manner, I've no comment, except one thing interseting why not 4 Step only (without KP) like Dr. Kar, Mr. Baskaran, Mr. Khullar, since KP & 4 Step are different. Regards, tw , Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > > Dear friends, > > These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and to give > credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is scientific and > gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my opinion it gives > still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if introduced in > future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person in the same > manner > > Every one knows that in *Kp,* KSK used *planet--its star lord-- and its > sublord 3step. *Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of the > sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely. > > In *4step *Mr Gondhalekar used *Planet--its star lord-- and its sublord and > star lord of this sublord. *So anybody who knows kp will agree that 1st 3 > steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step method only > 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp method by one > step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though in short > we say 4steps theory. > > After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 astrosecret), Mr > Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord speaks) and > so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those rules as kp > rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research minded > people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as addition to Kp, > especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we all should > apriciate the person. > > In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP = > Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 STEP ONLY. > > Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of prediction > > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no *KP > > 4 Step*. > > > > Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am > > > > As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekar > > is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my > > knowledge to him only. > > > > 2. To learn by *Retrospection* of the prediction the following case is > > presented for your comments. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am > > > > I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 > > > > DOJ: 07/08/07 > > TOJ: 11-57-00 > > POJ GURGAON > > > > Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 > > > > DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 > > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 > > > > *POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP* > > > > Asc Vi 26:06:40 > > > > Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008) > > Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) > > > > 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. > > > > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, > > indicating delay. > > > > 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may > > be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service > > (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). > > > > *TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP*, the following primary > > significators of DBA lords may be helpful. > > > > Planet Su: > > Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1 > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma [8, 3, > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > > Planet Ve: > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma [8, 3, > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > > Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > > > > > > > > , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal, > > > > > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please > > take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be > > most grateful. > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > Krishnan Kambai > > > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur, > > > > > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of > > any new developments. > > > > > > Regards > > > Krishnan > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote: > > > Dear Kambaikrishnan > > > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep > > 2007. > > > Please give a feedback. > > > Good Luck > > > > > > > > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote: > > > Dear Respected Members of the Group, > > > > > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after > > > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He > > > has been unemployed for the past few months. > > > > > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be > > > re-employed again. > > > > > > His details are as follows:- > > > > > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > > > > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ) > > > > > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > > > Horary No. from me: 123 > > > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user > > panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Dear Friends I agree with Dr. Sheetal in toto. 4 step theory is an extension of KP. There is no doubt about it in my mind. Whether members accept it or reject it does not change the fact. That is my humble opinion. Subhash Ektare , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > After having explained the 4 Step in a book-free clear manner, I've > no comment, except one thing interseting why not 4 Step only > (without KP) like Dr. Kar, Mr. Baskaran, Mr. Khullar, since KP & 4 > Step are different. > > Regards, > > tw > > > , Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and > to give > > credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is scientific > and > > gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my > opinion it gives > > still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if > introduced in > > future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person in > the same > > manner > > > > Every one knows that in *Kp,* KSK used *planet--its star lord-- > and its > > sublord 3step. *Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of > the > > sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely. > > > > In *4step *Mr Gondhalekar used *Planet--its star lord-- and its > sublord and > > star lord of this sublord. *So anybody who knows kp will agree > that 1st 3 > > steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step > method only > > 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp > method by one > > step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though > in short > > we say 4steps theory. > > > > After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 > astrosecret), Mr > > Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord > speaks) and > > so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those rules > as kp > > rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research > minded > > people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as > addition to Kp, > > especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we > all should > > apriciate the person. > > > > In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP = > > Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 > STEP ONLY. > > > > Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of prediction > > > > Regards > > Dr Sheetal > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. > There is no *KP > > > 4 Step*. > > > > > > Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am > > > > > > As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil > Gondhalekar > > > is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my > > > knowledge to him only. > > > > > > 2. To learn by *Retrospection* of the prediction the following > case is > > > presented for your comments. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am > > > > > > I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 > > > > > > DOJ: 07/08/07 > > > TOJ: 11-57-00 > > > POJ GURGAON > > > > > > Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 > > > > > > DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 > > > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 > > > > > > *POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP* > > > > > > Asc Vi 26:06:40 > > > > > > Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008) > > > Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) > > > > > > 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. > > > > > > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in > Taurus, > > > indicating delay. > > > > > > 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th > house may > > > be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to > join service > > > (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). > > > > > > *TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP*, the following primary > > > significators of DBA lords may be helpful. > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1 > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma > [8, 3, > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma > [8, 3, > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , krishnan kambai > <kambaikrishnan@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal, > > > > > > > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you > please > > > take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all > would be > > > most grateful. > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > > > Krishnan Kambai > > > > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur, > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you > posted of > > > any new developments. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote: > > > > Dear Kambaikrishnan > > > > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by > end of Sep > > > 2007. > > > > Please give a feedback. > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > > > > > > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote: > > > > Dear Respected Members of the Group, > > > > > > > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned > after > > > > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the > reason. He > > > > has been unemployed for the past few months. > > > > > > > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would > be > > > > re-employed again. > > > > > > > > His details are as follows:- > > > > > > > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > > > > > > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ) > > > > > > > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > > > > > Horary No. from me: 123 > > > > > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join > 's user > > > panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Dear Sir Different people have different opinion. If Mr Gondhalekar uses title " 4step theory " without kp, it will give full credit to him only. All are aware of the fact that so many things in kp eg Vimshontari dasha division, sublord etc etc which are used by others are the original research of KSK. How can anyone take full credit when its only extension of some part of original method.Using someone's basics and not mentioning his name in title and taking full credit is wrong generally. But I dont have any objection as if their conscious allows it is ok for me. I am not in habbit of taking any unnacessry objections. " kp 4step " title needs no explanation of the fact that its extension of KSK's kp method only and its not new research of basics by anybody. If anybody wants to give full credit of invension of 4step theory to Mr Gondhalekar, it is also welcomed!!! Regards Sheetal Feb 6, 2008 4:38 AM, Subhash <subhash_ektare wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends > > I agree with Dr. Sheetal in toto. 4 step theory is an extension of > KP. There is no doubt about it in my mind. Whether members accept it > or reject it does not change the fact. That is my humble opinion. > > Subhash Ektare > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > After having explained the 4 Step in a book-free clear manner, I've > > no comment, except one thing interseting why not 4 Step only > > (without KP) like Dr. Kar, Mr. Baskaran, Mr. Khullar, since KP & 4 > > Step are different. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and > > to give > > > credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is > scientific > > and > > > gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my > > opinion it gives > > > still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if > > introduced in > > > future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person > in > > the same > > > manner > > > > > > Every one knows that in *Kp,* KSK used *planet--its star lord-- > > and its > > > sublord 3step. *Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of > > the > > > sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely. > > > > > > In *4step *Mr Gondhalekar used *Planet--its star lord-- and its > > sublord and > > > star lord of this sublord. *So anybody who knows kp will agree > > that 1st 3 > > > steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step > > method only > > > 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp > > method by one > > > step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though > > in short > > > we say 4steps theory. > > > > > > After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 > > astrosecret), Mr > > > Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord > > speaks) and > > > so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those > rules > > as kp > > > rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research > > minded > > > people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as > > addition to Kp, > > > especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we > > all should > > > apriciate the person. > > > > > > In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP = > > > Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 > > STEP ONLY. > > > > > > Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of > prediction > > > > > > Regards > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. > > There is no *KP > > > > 4 Step*. > > > > > > > > Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am > > > > > > > > As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil > > Gondhalekar > > > > is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my > > > > knowledge to him only. > > > > > > > > 2. To learn by *Retrospection* of the prediction the following > > case is > > > > presented for your comments. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am > > > > > > > > I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 > > > > > > > > DOJ: 07/08/07 > > > > TOJ: 11-57-00 > > > > POJ GURGAON > > > > > > > > Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 > > > > > > > > DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 > > > > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 > > > > > > > > *POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP* > > > > > > > > Asc Vi 26:06:40 > > > > > > > > Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008) > > > > Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) > > > > > > > > 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. > > > > > > > > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in > > Taurus, > > > > indicating delay. > > > > > > > > 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th > > house may > > > > be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to > > join service > > > > (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). > > > > > > > > *TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP*, the following primary > > > > significators of DBA lords may be helpful. > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1 > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by > Ma > > [8, 3, > > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by > Ma > > [8, 3, > > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , krishnan kambai > > <kambaikrishnan@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal, > > > > > > > > > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could > you > > please > > > > take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all > > would be > > > > most grateful. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan Kambai > > > > > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you > > posted of > > > > any new developments. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote: > > > > > Dear Kambaikrishnan > > > > > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by > > end of Sep > > > > 2007. > > > > > Please give a feedback. > > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote: > > > > > Dear Respected Members of the Group, > > > > > > > > > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation > resigned > > after > > > > > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the > > reason. He > > > > > has been unemployed for the past few months. > > > > > > > > > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would > > be > > > > > re-employed again. > > > > > > > > > > His details are as follows:- > > > > > > > > > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > > > > > > > > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ) > > > > > > > > > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > > > > > > > Horary No. from me: 123 > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join > > 's user > > > > panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 dear membersplease do not mix up kp and 4 step method. Though 4 step method is based on KP principles, its methods of predictions, and steps are not Identical to KP methods. It is better to keep them seperate, just as we keep Vedic methods seperate from KP, though KP is based on Vedic Principles.good luckSheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Dear friends, These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and to give credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is scientific and gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my opinion it gives still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if introduced in future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person in the same manner Every one knows that in Kp, KSK used planet--its star lord--and its sublord 3step. Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of the sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely. In 4step Mr Gondhalekar used Planet--its star lord-- and its sublord and star lord of this sublord. So anybody who knows kp will agree that 1st 3 steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step method only 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp method by one step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though in short we say 4steps theory. After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 astrosecret), Mr Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord speaks) and so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those rules as kp rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research minded people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as addition to Kp, especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we all should apriciate the person. In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP = Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 STEP ONLY. Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of prediction Regards Dr Sheetal On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Friends, 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no KP 4 Step. Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekaris also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of myknowledge to him only. 2. To learn by Retrospection of the prediction the following case is presented for your comments. Thanks and regards, tw Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 DOJ: 07/08/07TOJ: 11-57-00POJ GURGAON Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP Asc Vi 26:06:40 Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008)Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, indicating delay. 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP, the following primary significators of DBA lords may be helpful. Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1Sublord of Su is Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, Cnj Mo{8}]) Planet Ve:Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,Cnj Mo{8}])Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan wrote:>> Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal,> > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be most grateful. > > Thank you so much,> > Krishnan Kambai> krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan wrote: Dear Raichur,> > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of any new developments. > > Regards> Krishnan> > Raichur-a-r raichurar wrote:> Dear Kambaikrishnan> As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep 2007.> Please give a feedback. > Good Luck> > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan wrote:> Dear Respected Members of the Group,> > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after> only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He > has been unemployed for the past few months.> > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be> re-employed again.> > His details are as follows:-> > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM )> > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > Horary No. from me: 123> > Thank you so much.> > Yours sincerely,> > Krishnan> > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Dear Sir When I solved this querry for father's kp no 123, I calculated after rotating the horary chart but mistake was due to missing importance to delaying lagna VIRGO/VRISHABH. I tallied with birth chart and that time ie on 7th Aug 07, he was running SHANI M.DASHA=SHANI BHUKTI=BUDH VIDASHA (10/6/07 to 13/11/07) (Scorpio Lagna=21*.42.23 (DOB:18/1/82; TOB 4/27/0,POB KUALA LUMPUR- By Astro 3.3) SHANI=1,4,6,10,11 BUDH =2,3,7,9,11,12 I dont know the dt exactly when he lost his job. So Shani-Shani-Budh didnt show any loss of job, it definitely shows change in job. For loss of job there should be only negating houses but here 6,10,11,2 all positive houses are there along with 3,9,10 which shows change in job. I dont consider 1 house for negation of any matter for person. If u tell us the exact dt when he lost his job, it will be helpfull for my study. Regards Dr Sheetal On Feb 5, 2008 9:09 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Krishnan, > > 1. Thank you for your feedback, which is very helpful in learning KP. > > 2. It's supposed to be moving in the right direction to join the service in > the near future. The delay effect of retrograde Venus in the Horary chart > no. 123 had already expired on 12 Oct 2007 when Venus was back in direct > motion and passed beyond thhe point wherefrom its retrograde motion motion > started. Here is the same as found by Prof. Rajendra Kumar that " The sublord > of the principle cusp if retrograde, or if deposited in the star or sub of a > planet that is retrograde, will negate the result even though the > retrograde planet is connected to Sun by the way of star lordship, or being > within 30 degrees to the Sun " . (Inference from a Honest Retrospection, K.P. > & Astrology 2005, page 50) In the Horary chart no. 123, retrograde Venus is > within 30 degrees to the Sun and Guruji KSK's teaching of retrograde in > Horary is working and Dr. Kar's retrograde cancellation theory is not > working. It shows that outright saying, bolder than Dr. Kar, of retrograde > is not working in Horary is not yet conclusive and it is still open to > further research. Perhaps Punarphoo effect of delay and requiring more tham > one attempt is here but it doesn't deny the result and may give a better > result. > > 3. His Natal chart: 18 January, 1982, 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ), Kuala Lumpur, > Asc Sc 28:42:45, Moon Li 13:18:06 (NKA 23:30:58). The current running DBA > is Sa-Sa-Ve (19 Sept 2007 to 20 Mar 2008) and then Sa-Sa-Su up to 14 May > 2008. > > Sa+(10,3,4,+1,7) is in star Ma(10,1,5,12) & own sub Sa+(10,3,4,+1,7) (+ no > planet in its star) > > Ve+(2,6,7,11,+4,5,8) is in star Su(2,10) & own sub Ve+(2,6,7,11,+4,5,8) > > Su(2,10) is in own star Su(2,10) & sub Ve+(2,6,7,11,+4,5,8) > > DBA lords are strong by being in own sub and star and having no planet in > their stars. The signification of 1,3,5,12 indicates break and change in > job. (1st= 12 to 2nd is not considered to be good for service in KP.) > > 4. In conclusion, it's expected to join service in Sa-Sa-Ve DBA before Mar > 2008 or not later than 14 May 2008 (Sa-Sa-Su DBA). The KP top grade A > significators at the planet level, star level and sub level can be found > from the 4 Step significators as follows: (explained in details in 4 Step > Note in KP E-Zine, www.loger.com) > > Planet Sa+: 10; 3-4; Asp 1; Asp 8; Cnj 11 (Plt level: 10,3,4 houses) > > Starlord of Sa is Ma: 10; 1-5-12 (Star level: 10,1,5,12 houses) > > Sublord of Sa is Sa+: 10; 3-4; Asp 1; Asp 8; Cnj 11 (Sub level: 10,3,4 > houses) > > Starlord of Sa is Ma: 10; 1-5-12 > > Planet Ve+: 2; 6-7 (Plt level: 2,6,7 houses) > > Starlord of Ve is Su*: 2 (Star level: 2nd house) > > Sublord of Ve is Ve+: 2; 6-7 (Sub level: 2,6,7 houses) > > Starlord of Ve is Su*: 2 > > > > Planet Su*: 2 (Plt level: 2nd house) > > Starlord of Su is Su*: 2 (Star level: 2nd house) > > Sublord of Su is Sa+: 10; 3-4; Asp 1; Asp 8; Cnj 11 (Sub level: 10,3,4 > houses) > > Starlord of Sa is Ma: 10; 1-5-12 > > > > Good luck to your son! > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan > wrote: > > > > Dear TW, > > > > Further to the abovementioned case I would like to give you the latest > developments for your further research. > > > > My son was told to come for an interview on the 16th January, 2008 by word > of mouth but the secretary had inadvertently recorded the 17th as the > interview date and so when my son went for the interview on the 16th > January, 2007 he was told of the mistake and was told to come on the 17th > January, 2008. After a few days he was asked to fax his last drawn pay slips > and he had faxed as requested. > > > > My son has not got any reply as yet. > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > tw853 tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no KP 4 > Step. > > Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am > > As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekar > > is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my > > knowledge to him only. > > 2. To learn by Retrospection of the prediction the following case is > presented for your comments. > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am > > I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 > > DOJ: 07/08/07 > > TOJ: 11-57-00 > > POJ GURGAON > > Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 > > DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 > > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 > > POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP > > Asc Vi 26:06:40 > > Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008) > > Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) > > 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. > > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus, > indicating delay. > > 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may > be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service > (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). > > TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP, the following primary significators > of DBA lords may be helpful. > > Planet Su: > > Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1 > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > Planet Ve: > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3, > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > > > > , krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal, > > > > > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please > take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be > most grateful. > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > Krishnan Kambai > > > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur, > > > > > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of > any new developments. > > > > > > Regards > > > Krishnan > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote: > > > Dear Kambaikrishnan > > > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep > 2007. > > > Please give a feedback. > > > Good Luck > > > > > > > > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote: > > > Dear Respected Members of the Group, > > > > > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after > > > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He > > > has been unemployed for the past few months. > > > > > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be > > > re-employed again. > > > > > > His details are as follows:- > > > > > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > > > > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ) > > > > > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > > > Horary No. from me: 123 > > > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user > panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I agree with views of tw853. Let us use 4step, without mixing with KP.tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Friends,After having explained the 4 Step in a book-free clear manner, I've no comment, except one thing interseting why not 4 Step only (without KP) like Dr. Kar, Mr. Baskaran, Mr. Khullar, since KP & 4 Step are different.Regards,tw , Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:>> Dear friends,> > These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and to give> credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is scientific and> gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my opinion it gives> still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if introduced in> future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person in the same> manner> > Every one knows that in *Kp,* KSK used *planet--its star lord--and its> sublord 3step. *Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of the> sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely.> > In *4step *Mr Gondhalekar used *Planet--its star lord-- and its sublord and> star lord of this sublord. *So anybody who knows kp will agree that 1st 3> steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step method only> 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp method by one> step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though in short> we say 4steps theory.> > After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 astrosecret), Mr> Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord speaks) and> so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those rules as kp> rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research minded> people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as addition to Kp,> especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we all should> apriciate the person.> > In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP => Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 STEP ONLY.> > Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of prediction> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Friends,> >> > 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. There is no *KP> > 4 Step*.> >> > Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am> >> > As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil Gondhalekar> > is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my> > knowledge to him only.> >> > 2. To learn by *Retrospection* of the prediction the following case is> > presented for your comments.> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> >> >> > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am> >> > I solved your query 4step for horary no 123> >> > DOJ: 07/08/07> > TOJ: 11-57-00> > POJ GURGAON> >> > Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07> >> > DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07> > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07> >> > *POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP*> >> > Asc Vi 26:06:40> >> > Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008)> > Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007)> >> > 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay.> >> > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in Taurus,> > indicating delay.> >> > 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th house may> > be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to join service> > (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008).> >> > *TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP*, the following primary> > significators of DBA lords may be helpful.> >> > Planet Su:> > Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1> > Sublord of Su is Ve:> > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,> > Cnj Mo{8}])> >> > Planet Ve:> > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma[8, 3,> > Cnj Mo{8}])> > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)> > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6)> >> > Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7> > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6> > Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7> > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6> >> >> >> >> > , krishnan kambai <kambaikrishnan@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal,> > >> > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you please> > take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all would be> > most grateful.> > >> > > Thank you so much,> > >> > > Krishnan Kambai> > > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur,> > >> > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you posted of> > any new developments.> > >> > > Regards> > > Krishnan> > >> > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote:> > > Dear Kambaikrishnan> > > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by end of Sep> > 2007.> > > Please give a feedback.> > > Good Luck> > >> > >> > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote:> > > Dear Respected Members of the Group,> > >> > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned after> > > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the reason. He> > > has been unemployed for the past few months.> > >> > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would be> > > re-employed again.> > >> > > His details are as follows:-> > >> > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982> > >> > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM )> > >> > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > >> > > Horary No. from me: 123> > >> > > Thank you so much.> > >> > > Yours sincerely,> > >> > > Krishnan> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user> > panel and lay it on us.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Got a little couch potato?> > > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >>raichur anant mumbai Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Respected members, Sir, As far as I can understand, Four-step is only a method of ascertaining signification properties of planets; for prediction KP rules are used. Is it possible to examine and solve any case without using KP rules? I wonder!Or is four-step a complete system of prediction like KP? No offence to anyone meant. This is just my doubt. regards, sujatkaram , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > I agree with views of tw853. Let us use 4step, without mixing with KP. > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Friends, > > After having explained the 4 Step in a book-free clear manner, I've > no comment, except one thing interseting why not 4 Step only > (without KP) like Dr. Kar, Mr. Baskaran, Mr. Khullar, since KP & 4 > Step are different. > > Regards, > > tw > > , Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and > to give > > credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is scientific > and > > gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my > opinion it gives > > still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if > introduced in > > future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person in > the same > > manner > > > > Every one knows that in *Kp,* KSK used *planet--its star lord-- > and its > > sublord 3step. *Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of > the > > sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely. > > > > In *4step *Mr Gondhalekar used *Planet--its star lord-- and its > sublord and > > star lord of this sublord. *So anybody who knows kp will agree > that 1st 3 > > steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step > method only > > 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp > method by one > > step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though > in short > > we say 4steps theory. > > > > After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 > astrosecret), Mr > > Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord > speaks) and > > so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those rules > as kp > > rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research > minded > > people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as > addition to Kp, > > especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we > all should > > apriciate the person. > > > > In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP = > > Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 > STEP ONLY. > > > > Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of prediction > > > > Regards > > Dr Sheetal > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. > There is no *KP > > > 4 Step*. > > > > > > Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am > > > > > > As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil > Gondhalekar > > > is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my > > > knowledge to him only. > > > > > > 2. To learn by *Retrospection* of the prediction the following > case is > > > presented for your comments. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am > > > > > > I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 > > > > > > DOJ: 07/08/07 > > > TOJ: 11-57-00 > > > POJ GURGAON > > > > > > Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 > > > > > > DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 > > > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 > > > > > > *POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP* > > > > > > Asc Vi 26:06:40 > > > > > > Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008) > > > Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) > > > > > > 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. > > > > > > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in > Taurus, > > > indicating delay. > > > > > > 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th > house may > > > be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to > join service > > > (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). > > > > > > *TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP*, the following primary > > > significators of DBA lords may be helpful. > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1 > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma > [8, 3, > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma > [8, 3, > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , krishnan kambai > <kambaikrishnan@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal, > > > > > > > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you > please > > > take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all > would be > > > most grateful. > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > > > Krishnan Kambai > > > > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur, > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you > posted of > > > any new developments. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote: > > > > Dear Kambaikrishnan > > > > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by > end of Sep > > > 2007. > > > > Please give a feedback. > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > > > > > > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote: > > > > Dear Respected Members of the Group, > > > > > > > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned > after > > > > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the > reason. He > > > > has been unemployed for the past few months. > > > > > > > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would > be > > > > re-employed again. > > > > > > > > His details are as follows:- > > > > > > > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > > > > > > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ) > > > > > > > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > > > > > Horary No. from me: 123 > > > > > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join > 's user > > > panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant mumbai > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Dear SujatkaramYou have to use KP rules for predicting using 4 step method,For example, while considerrring Marriage, you have to take 7th house, and see connection with 2 and 11.(this is KP)good lucksujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members, Sir, As far as I can understand, Four-step is only a method of ascertaining signification properties of planets; for prediction KP rules are used. Is it possible to examine and solve any case without using KP rules? I wonder!Or is four-step a complete system of prediction like KP? No offence to anyone meant. This is just my doubt. regards, sujatkaram , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > I agree with views of tw853. Let us use 4step, without mixing with KP. > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Friends, > > After having explained the 4 Step in a book-free clear manner, I've > no comment, except one thing interseting why not 4 Step only > (without KP) like Dr. Kar, Mr. Baskaran, Mr. Khullar, since KP & 4 > Step are different. > > Regards, > > tw > > , Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > These are my manners to respect parents, teachers and elders and > to give > > credits if anyone deserve it. I follow kp because it is scientific > and > > gives near perfect results. I follow kp 4step becasue in my > opinion it gives > > still more perfect results.And I will follow any method if > introduced in > > future giving most perfect results, and will respect the person in > the same > > manner > > > > Every one knows that in *Kp,* KSK used *planet--its star lord-- > and its > > sublord 3step. *Also he mentioned in his books about star lord of > the > > sublord of the planet though he didnt use it routinely. > > > > In *4step *Mr Gondhalekar used *Planet--its star lord-- and its > sublord and > > star lord of this sublord. *So anybody who knows kp will agree > that 1st 3 > > steps of 4step theory are from regular kp method and in kp 4step > method only > > 4th step is additional. So one can say 4step as a extension kp > method by one > > step. This is my opinion. So we call it as a kp 4step only though > in short > > we say 4steps theory. > > > > After KSK so many people did research like Mr Shamumgham (3 > astrosecret), Mr > > Vaikari and Mr Subhramaniyam( Sublord speaks and cuspal sublord > speaks) and > > so many others. All are reading that and accepting all those rules > as kp > > rules slowly atleast no one says its not kp. So we all research > minded > > people should keep broad mind to accept all such research as > addition to Kp, > > especially if we get correct answer it should be welcomed and we > all should > > apriciate the person. > > > > In following example REASONS FOR FAILURE AS PER KP = > > Dasha Swami SHUKRA in SUB of RAHU and RAHU in STAR OF RAHU is 4 > STEP ONLY. > > > > Anyways I have posted my probable reasons for faliure of prediction > > > > Regards > > Dr Sheetal > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 8:09 AM, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. I think it's clear that KP is KP and 4 Step is 4 Step. > There is no *KP > > > 4 Step*. > > > > > > Message #16338 Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:32 am > > > > > > As KSK was only one who introduced KP, like that Mr Sunil > Gondhalekar > > > is also only one who introduced 4step. I owe all credit of my > > > knowledge to him only. > > > > > > 2. To learn by *Retrospection* of the prediction the following > case is > > > presented for your comments. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > Message #14390 Tue Aug 7, 2007 6:30 am > > > > > > I solved your query 4step for horary no 123 > > > > > > DOJ: 07/08/07 > > > TOJ: 11-57-00 > > > POJ GURGAON > > > > > > Your son will get job between 9th Sept to 23 Oct 07 > > > > > > DASHA =SUN--SHUKRA--JUP= From 4th sept to 23rd Oct 07 > > > Transit matched between 9th sept --23rd Oct07 > > > > > > *POSSIBLE REASONS OF FAILURE AS PER KP* > > > > > > Asc Vi 26:06:40 > > > > > > Su-Ve DB (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008) > > > Su-Ve-Ju DBA (9 Sept to 27 Oct 2007) > > > > > > 1) 10th cuspal sublord Ve is in retrograde, indicating delay. > > > > > > 2) Punarphoo by the 10th aspect of Saturn in Leo on Moon in > Taurus, > > > indicating delay. > > > > > > 3) Bhukti lord Venus in the sub of Rahu in own star Rahu in 5th > house may > > > be the main cause of break in service and not being possible to > join service > > > (6th house) during its Bhukti (05 Mar 2007 to 03 Mar 2008). > > > > > > *TO FIND THE REASONS AS PER FOUR STEP*, the following primary > > > significators of DBA lords may be helpful. > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > Starlord of Su is Me: 10; 1 > > > Sublord of Su is Ve: > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma > [8, 3, > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > > > > Planet Ve: > > > Starlord of Ve is Ke: 11; Sgl Su(10, 12); Stl Ve(11, 9, Asp by Ma > [8, 3, > > > Cnj Mo{8}]) > > > Sublord of Ve is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > Starlord of Ra is Ra*: 5; Sgl Sa(11, 6) > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 2; 4-7 > > > Starlord of Ju is Sa: 11; 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , krishnan kambai > <kambaikrishnan@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raichur, Satish and Sheetal, > > > > > > > > My son has not got any job offers/interviews so far. Could you > please > > > take a relook on my query please. A word of advice from you all > would be > > > most grateful. > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > > > Krishnan Kambai > > > > krishnan kambai kambaikrishnan@ wrote: Dear Raichur, > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your reply. I will definitely keep you > posted of > > > any new developments. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote: > > > > Dear Kambaikrishnan > > > > As per Horary 123 given by you, your son should get a job by > end of Sep > > > 2007. > > > > Please give a feedback. > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > > > > > > > kambaikrishnan kambaikrishnan@ wrote: > > > > Dear Respected Members of the Group, > > > > > > > > My son who was working in a multinational corporation resigned > after > > > > only a few months working there citing work pressure as the > reason. He > > > > has been unemployed for the past few months. > > > > > > > > Can the respected members of this group tell me when he would > be > > > > re-employed again. > > > > > > > > His details are as follows:- > > > > > > > > Date of birth: 18 January, 1982 > > > > > > > > Time of birth: 04.27 (= 4.27 AM ) > > > > > > > > Place of birth: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > > > > > Horary No. from me: 123 > > > > > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join > 's user > > > panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant mumbai > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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