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Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal

ratnamalag

 

 

 

On 9/22/07, sujatkaram <sujatkaram > wrote:

Respected Members,

I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has deviated

from its original path of knowledge.

I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am

furnishing the following case for analysis.

The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra,

at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents have planned

to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I have tried

to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad in

November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.

regards,

sujatkaram , " Punit Pandey "

 

 

#14899 Sheetal <ratnamalag

Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

 

 

Dear Sir,

Hello

 

My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory

 

Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)

 

1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses strongly.

Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.

 

WHEN:

 

Wants to go in Nov 07

Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and Vidashas

are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

 

Maha Ketu=7,9.

Bhukti Surya =9,7.

 

We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.

 

Moon=7,9

Mars=3,7,9

Rahu=7,9

Guru=7,9,12

 

Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

 

Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)

to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going houses= 3,9,12, 7

 

Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st half of Nov 07

as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the periods for

foreign going of the child.

 

Child will go with her mother

For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so mother will

go to foreign

 

If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying mother's foreign houses

 

Regards

 

Dr Sheetal

 

msg#14905

 

Respected Dr. Sheetal,

Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You have

widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included December

07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising

difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay is

possible.

with regards,

sujatkaram. , Sheetal

<ratnamalag wrote:

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Dear Four Step Lovers,

Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS is applied to get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sooksha which is not available in the Four Step book.

Regards,

tw

 

, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:>> Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal> ratnamalag > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram > wrote:> Respected Members,> I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has deviated> from its original path of knowledge.> I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am> furnishing the following case for analysis.> The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra,> at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents have planned> to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I have tried> to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad in> November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.> regards,> sujatkaram , "Punit Pandey"> > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm> > > Dear Sir,> Hello> > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory> > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.> SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)> SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)> > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc Cp 04:23:31 (KPAstro 3.0)

Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

Sublord of Su is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses strongly.

Planet Ju+: 11; 12

Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

Sublord of Ju is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.> > WHEN:> > Wants to go in Nov 07> Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and Vidashas> are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.> > Maha Ketu=7,9.

Planet Ke:

Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7, 1])

 

> Bhukti Surya =9,7.

Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

Sublord of Su is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.> Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.> > Moon=7,9> Mars=3,7,9> Rahu=7,9> Guru=7,9,12> > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

 

Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7, 1])

Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

 

Planet Ju+: 11; 12

Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

Sublord of Ju is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

 

> > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

 

Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

 

> Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)

 

Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going houses= 3,9,12, 7> > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st half of Nov 07> as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the periods for> foreign going of the child.> > Child will go with her mother> For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so mother will> go to foreign> > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying mother's foreign houses> > Regards> > Dr Sheetal> > msg#14905> > Respected Dr. Sheetal,> Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You have> widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included December> 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising> difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay is> possible.> with regards,> sujatkaram. , Sheetal> ratnamalag@ wrote:>

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Dear Twji

 

Thanks for editing my mail

 

Regards

 

Dr Sheetal

 

 

 

On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Four Step Lovers,

Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS is applied to get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sooksha which is not available in the Four Step book.

Regards,

tw

 

 

, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:>

> Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal> ratnamalag > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram > wrote:> Respected Members,> I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has deviated> from its original path of knowledge.

> I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am> furnishing the following case for analysis.> The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra,> at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents have planned

> to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I have tried> to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad in> November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.> regards,

> sujatkaram , " Punit Pandey " > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm> > > Dear Sir,> Hello> > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory> > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)> SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)> > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

 

29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc Cp 04:23:31 (KPAstro 3.0)

Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

Sublord of Su is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

 

> 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses strongly.

Planet Ju+: 11; 12

Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

Sublord of Ju is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

 

> Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.> > WHEN:> > Wants to go in Nov 07> Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and Vidashas> are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > Maha Ketu=7,9.

Planet Ke:

Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7, 1])

 

> Bhukti Surya =9,7.

Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

Sublord of Su is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

 

> > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.> Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.> > Moon=7,9> Mars=3,7,9> Rahu=7,9> Guru=7,9,12> > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

 

Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7, 1])

Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

 

Planet Ju+: 11; 12

Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

Sublord of Ju is Me:

Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

 

 

> > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

 

Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

 

Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

 

 

> Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)

 

 

 

Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

 

> to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going houses= 3,9,12, 7> > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st half of Nov 07> as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the periods for

> foreign going of the child.> > Child will go with her mother> For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so mother will> go to foreign> > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying mother's foreign houses

> > Regards> > Dr Sheetal> > msg#14905> > Respected Dr. Sheetal,> Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You have> widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included December

> 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising> difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay is> possible.> with regards,> sujatkaram. , Sheetal

> ratnamalag@ wrote:>

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Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers, --- to help study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sookshma> > which is not available in the Four Step book.

Regards,

tw

 

, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:>> Dear Twji> > Thanks for editing my mail> > Regards> > Dr Sheetal> > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Four Step Lovers,> >> > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS is applied to> > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sooksha> > which is not available in the Four Step book.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> >> >> >> > , Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:> > >> > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal> > > ratnamalag@> > >> > >> > >> > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:> > > Respected Members,> > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has deviated> > > from its original path of knowledge.> > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am> > > furnishing the following case for analysis.> > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra,> > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents have planned> > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I have tried> > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad in> > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.> > > regards,> > > sujatkaram , "Punit Pandey"> > >> > >> > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@> > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm> > >> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > > Hello> > >> > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory> > >> > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.> > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)> > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)> > >> > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9> >> > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc Cp 04:23:31> > (KPAstro 3.0)> >> > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)> >> > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > Sublord of Su is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> >> > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses> > strongly.> >> > Planet Ju+: 11; 12> >> > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> >> > Sublord of Ju is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> >> > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.> > >> > > WHEN:> > >> > > Wants to go in Nov 07> > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and Vidashas> > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.> > >> > > Maha Ketu=7,9.> >> > Planet Ke:> >> > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)> >> > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11> >> > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7,> > 1])> >> >> >> > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.> >> > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)> >> > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > Sublord of Su is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > >> > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.> > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.> > >> > > Moon=7,9> > > Mars=3,7,9> > > Rahu=7,9> > > Guru=7,9,12> > >> > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take> >> >> >> > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11> >> > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7,> > 1])> >> > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)> >> > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> >> >> >> >> > Planet Ju+: 11; 12> >> > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> >> > Sublord of Ju is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > >> > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)> >> >> >> > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)> >> > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)> >> >> > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)> >> >> >> > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)> >> > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)> >> >> > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going houses= 3,9,12, 7> > >> > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st half of Nov 07> > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the periods for> > > foreign going of the child.> > >> > > Child will go with her mother> > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so mother will> > > go to foreign> > >> > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying mother's foreign> > houses> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Dr Sheetal> > >> > > msg#14905> > >> > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,> > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You have> > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included December> > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising> > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay is> > > possible.> > > with regards,> > > sujatkaram. , Sheetal> > > ratnamalag@ wrote:> > >> >> > > >>

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dear tw,

each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i have written articles in marathi

regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is to know the theory first.

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers, --- to help study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sookshma> > which is not available in the Four Step book.

 

Regards,

tw

 

, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:>

> Dear Twji> > Thanks for editing my mail> > Regards> > Dr Sheetal> > > >

> On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Four Step Lovers,> >> > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS is applied to

> > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sooksha> > which is not available in the Four Step book.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> >

> >> >> > , Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:> > >

> > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal> > > ratnamalag@> > >> > >> > >> > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:

> > > Respected Members,> > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has deviated> > > from its original path of knowledge.> > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am

> > > furnishing the following case for analysis.> > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra,> > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents have planned

> > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I have tried> > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad in> > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.

> > > regards,> > > sujatkaram , " Punit Pandey "

> > >> > >> > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@> > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm> > >> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > > Hello

> > >> > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory> > >> > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.> > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

> > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)> > >> > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9> >> > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc Cp 04:23:31

> > (KPAstro 3.0)> >> > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)> >> > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > Sublord of Su is Me:> >

> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> >> > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses> > strongly.> >> > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> >> > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> >> > Sublord of Ju is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> >> > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.

> > >> > > WHEN:> > >> > > Wants to go in Nov 07> > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and Vidashas> > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > >> > > Maha Ketu=7,9.> >> > Planet Ke:> >> > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)> >> > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11> >

> > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7,> > 1])> >> >> >> > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.> >> > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> >> > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > Sublord of Su is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >

> > >> > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.> > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.> > >> > > Moon=7,9> > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > Rahu=7,9> > > Guru=7,9,12> > >> > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take> >> >> >> > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11> >

> > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7,> > 1])> >> > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)> >> > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> >> >> >> >> > Planet Ju+: 11; 12> >> > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> >> > Sublord of Ju is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> >> > >> > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)> >> >> >> > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)> >> > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> >> >> > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)> >> >> >> > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)> >> > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> >> >> > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going houses= 3,9,12, 7> > >> > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st half of Nov 07

> > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the periods for> > > foreign going of the child.> > >> > > Child will go with her mother> > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so mother will

> > > go to foreign> > >> > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying mother's foreign> > houses> > >> > > Regards> > >

> > > Dr Sheetal> > >> > > msg#14905> > >> > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,> > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You have> > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included December

> > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising> > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay is> > > possible.> > > with regards,

> > > sujatkaram. , Sheetal> > > ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > >> >> > > >>

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Dear Twji

 

ActuIy I sent the mail in very haphazard manner and u put it in the right form, I have given thanks for that. Also application of Sukshama dasha is given in many articles of Mr Gondhalekar's 'Nakshtrachn Den " ( N.D.) yearly /monthly issues,which is read by mostly all 4step lovers of Mahashtra. Whatever new reaserch he does we get time to time in those issues or in some of his new books or when he conduct workshops every year at different places. I dont remember all those articles but just now I read one article in old issue of N.D.May 06, pg no 7,article written by Mr Subhash Ektare under title " Vivah yog " (Marriage), he fixed dashas till Sukshama for marriage. 2nd artical in same issue, also on marriage written by Mr Shyam edlabadkar pg no 27 and there are so many. I can't give all references, where he used Sukshma dasha for making chain. If 4step lovers want to know 4step completely they can go through his latest articles but all r in Marathi langueges. I found one very good article by sir where he did retrospective study on " Subchi praticulata " means sublord negation " at 3and 4steps which he write in every issue of N.D.

 

Regards

Dr Sheetal

 

 

On Feb 8, 2008 5:29 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers, --- to help study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sookshma > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

 

Regards,

tw

 

 

, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:>

> Dear Twji> > Thanks for editing my mail> > Regards> > Dr Sheetal> > > >

 

 

> On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Four Step Lovers,> >> > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS is applied to

> > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sooksha> > which is not available in the Four Step book.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> >

> >> >> > , Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:> > >> > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal

> > > ratnamalag@> > >> > >> > >> > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:> > > Respected Members,> > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has deviated

> > > from its original path of knowledge.> > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am> > > furnishing the following case for analysis.> > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra,

> > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents have planned> > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I have tried> > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad in

> > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.> > > regards,> > > sujatkaram , " Punit Pandey "

> > >> > >> > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@> > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm> > >> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > > Hello

> > >> > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory> > >> > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.> > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

> > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)> > >> > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9> >> > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc Cp 04:23:31

> > (KPAstro 3.0)> >> > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)> >> > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > Sublord of Su is Me:> >

> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> >> > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses> > strongly.> >> > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> >> > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> >> > Sublord of Ju is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> >> > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.

> > >> > > WHEN:> > >> > > Wants to go in Nov 07> > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and Vidashas> > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > >> > > Maha Ketu=7,9.> >> > Planet Ke:> >> > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)> >> > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11> >

> > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7,> > 1])> >> >> >> > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.> >> > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> >> > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >> > Sublord of Su is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> >

> > >> > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.> > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.> > >> > > Moon=7,9> > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > Rahu=7,9> > > Guru=7,9,12> > >> > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take> >> >> >> > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11> >

> > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj Sa[7,> > 1])> >> > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)> >> > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> >> >> >> >> > Planet Ju+: 11; 12> >> > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> >> > Sublord of Ju is Me:> >> > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> >> > >> > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)> >> >> >> > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)> >> > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> >> >> > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)> >> >> >> > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)> >> > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> >> >> > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going houses= 3,9,12, 7> > >> > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st half of Nov 07

> > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the periods for> > > foreign going of the child.> > >> > > Child will go with her mother> > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so mother will

> > > go to foreign> > >> > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying mother's foreign> > houses> > >> > > Regards> > >

> > > Dr Sheetal> > >> > > msg#14905> > >> > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,> > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You have> > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included December

> > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising> > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay is> > > possible.> > > with regards,

> > > sujatkaram. , Sheetal> > > ratnamalag@ wrote:> > >> >> > > >

>

[Guest guest]

dear sunil gondhalekar,

 

1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and buyers of

your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link it in

making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4 step

note will be revised.

 

2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step

theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of the RPs,

and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be complete in

the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA. The

sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and it's

only mentioned that sookshma can be used.

 

3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only for

2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to make the

DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as mentioned in

the 4 step book.

 

> > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

 

4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers and

buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose sookshma

in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as given in

the Attachment.

 

5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to the 4

step theory and no body is against it and the question is what is

its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it.

 

4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes seems

not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this

sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be applicable

practically?

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

ATTACHMENT

 

 

In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running Dasa

lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required

houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat

the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave

this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which

is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it

is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary

significator of any of the required houses other than already

signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the

Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing house to

make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required

houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)

 

A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary significators of

the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38, 46-

47, 68, 80)

 

1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time of

question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, if

the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the

last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

 

2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as the

nodes are stronger than the planets.

 

3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is

primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a

supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA

chain complete.

 

4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of

the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration (4th

in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving

preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary

significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house).

 

 

Shri Raichur's Explanation

 

Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord

signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger'

steps 3 and 4.

 

The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving

Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA

Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the

period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).

 

For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast moving,

the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus common

sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.

 

Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is

determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

 

 

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear tw,

> each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i have

written

> articles in marathi

> regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is to

know the

> theory first.

> thanks

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

> >

> > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers, ---

to help

> > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going

complete ,

> > *esp. application of Sookshma

> > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > *

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Twji

> > >

> > > Thanks for editing my mail

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Dr Sheetal

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Four Step Lovers,

> > > >

> > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS

is applied

> > to

> > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application

of Sooksha

> > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal

> > > > > ratnamalag@

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:

> > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has

deviated

> > > > > from its original path of knowledge.

> > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am

> > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis.

> > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri,

> > Maharashtra,

> > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents

have

> > planned

> > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I

have tried

> > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad

in

> > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > sujatkaram , " Punit Pandey "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@

> > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > Hello

> > > > >

> > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory

> > > > >

> > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

> > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

> > > >

> > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc

Cp

> > 04:23:31

> > > > (KPAstro 3.0)

> > > >

> > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7

houses

> > > > strongly.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.

> > > > >

> > > > > WHEN:

> > > > >

> > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07

> > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and

Vidashas

> > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > > > >

> > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ke:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7,

5-10, Cnj

> > Sa[7,

> > > > 1])

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

> > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7,

5-10, Cnj

> > Sa[7,

> > > > 1])

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

houses= 3,9,12,

> > 7

> > > > >

> > > > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st

half of Nov

> > 07

> > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the

periods for

> > > > > foreign going of the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child will go with her mother

> > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so

mother

> > will

> > > > > go to foreign

> > > > >

> > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying

mother's

> > foreign

> > > > houses

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > >

> > > > > msg#14905

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,

> > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You

have

> > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included

December

> > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is

realising

> > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some

delay is

> > > > > possible.

> > > > > with regards,

> > > > > sujatkaram. , Sheetal

> > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Sheetal ji,

 

1. My apology, if my reply was inappropriate.

 

2. It would be helpful, if and only if it could be expalined what is

the role of Sookshma dasa level in making the chain (of required

houses for an event to happen) complete and how to choose it.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote:

>

> Dear Twji

>

> ActuIy I sent the mail in very haphazard manner and u put it in

the right

> form, I have given thanks for that. Also application of Sukshama

dasha

> is given in many articles of Mr Gondhalekar's 'Nakshtrachn Den " (

N.D.)

> yearly /monthly issues,which is read by mostly all 4step lovers of

> Mahashtra. Whatever new reaserch he does we get time to time in

those issues

> or in some of his new books or when he conduct workshops every

year at

> different places. I dont remember all those articles but just now

I read one

> article in old issue of N.D.May 06, pg no 7,article written by Mr

Subhash

> Ektare under title " Vivah yog " (Marriage), he fixed dashas till

Sukshama for

> marriage. 2nd artical in same issue, also on marriage written by

Mr Shyam

> edlabadkar pg no 27 and there are so many. I can't give all

references,

> where he used Sukshma dasha for making chain. If 4step lovers want

to know

> 4step completely they can go through his latest articles but all r

in

> Marathi langueges. I found one very good article by sir where he

did

> retrospective study on " Subchi praticulata " means sublord

negation " at 3and

> 4steps which he write in every issue of N.D.

>

> Regards

> Dr Sheetal

>

>

> On Feb 8, 2008 5:29 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

> > Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

> >

> > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers, ---

to help

> > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going

complete ,

> > *esp. application of Sookshma

> > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > *

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Twji

> > >

> > > Thanks for editing my mail

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Dr Sheetal

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Four Step Lovers,

> > > >

> > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS

is applied

> > to

> > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application

of Sooksha

> > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal

> > > > > ratnamalag@

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:

> > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has

deviated

> > > > > from its original path of knowledge.

> > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am

> > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis.

> > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri,

> > Maharashtra,

> > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents

have

> > planned

> > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I

have tried

> > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad

in

> > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > sujatkaram , " Punit Pandey "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@

> > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > Hello

> > > > >

> > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory

> > > > >

> > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

> > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

> > > >

> > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc

Cp

> > 04:23:31

> > > > (KPAstro 3.0)

> > > >

> > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7

houses

> > > > strongly.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.

> > > > >

> > > > > WHEN:

> > > > >

> > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07

> > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and

Vidashas

> > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > > > >

> > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ke:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7,

5-10, Cnj

> > Sa[7,

> > > > 1])

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

> > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7,

5-10, Cnj

> > Sa[7,

> > > > 1])

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

> > > >

> > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

houses= 3,9,12,

> > 7

> > > > >

> > > > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st

half of Nov

> > 07

> > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the

periods for

> > > > > foreign going of the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child will go with her mother

> > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so

mother

> > will

> > > > > go to foreign

> > > > >

> > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying

mother's

> > foreign

> > > > houses

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > >

> > > > > msg#14905

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,

> > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You

have

> > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included

December

> > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is

realising

> > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some

delay is

> > > > > possible.

> > > > > with regards,

> > > > > sujatkaram. , Sheetal

> > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dear tw853,

in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only

but to find more closer period sokshma is considered.

there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma because

it depends on DBA and the time of consultation.

if you can find any specific rule then it will be highly appreciated.

main clue is given in my articles are totally depends on specific query

but i take sookshma of main houses.

the example on sookshma is given in ASTROVISION Jan.08 issue,page no.56, which you can

analyse.

in Surat seminar,chart no.8,9,10and 13 were discussed for sooksma.

Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have noted correctly.

i hope this will be cleared the matter

-sunil gondhalekar

On 2/12/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

dear sunil gondhalekar,1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and buyers of your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link it in making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4 step

note will be revised.2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of the RPs, and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be complete in

the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA. The sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and it's only mentioned that sookshma can be used.3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only for

2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to make the DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as mentioned in the 4 step book.> > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers and buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose sookshma in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as given in

the Attachment. 5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to the 4 step theory and no body is against it and the question is what is its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it.

4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes seems not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be applicable practically?

Thanks and regards,twATTACHMENTIn fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running Dasa lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat

the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary

significator of any of the required houses other than already signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing house to make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required

houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary significators of the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38, 46-47, 68, 80)

1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time of question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, if the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as the nodes are stronger than the planets. 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a

supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA chain complete. 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration (4th

in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house). Shri Raichur's Explanation

Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger' steps 3 and 4. The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving

Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast moving,

the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus common sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

, " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka wrote:

>> dear tw,> each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i have written> articles in marathi> regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is to know the

> theory first.> thanks> -sunil gondhalekar> >

> On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> >> > Dear Dr Sheetal ji,> >> > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers, ---

to help> > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going complete ,> > *esp. application of Sookshma> > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > *> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> >> >> >> > , Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote:

> > >> > > Dear Twji> > >> > > Thanks for editing my mail> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Dr Sheetal> > >> > >

> > >> > >> > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Four Step Lovers,> > > >> > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS

is applied> > to> > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application of Sooksha> > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.> > > >> > > > Regards,

> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal> > > > > ratnamalag@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

> > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:> > > > > Respected Members,> > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has deviated

> > > > > from its original path of knowledge.> > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am> > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis.

> > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri,> > Maharashtra,> > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents have> > planned

> > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I have tried> > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad in> > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong.

> > > > > regards,> > > > > sujatkaram , " Punit Pandey "

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@> > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm> > > > >> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > Hello> > > > >> > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory> > > > >> > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)> > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)> > > > >> > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

> > > >> > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc Cp> > 04:23:31> > > > (KPAstro 3.0)> > > >> > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > >> > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> > > >> > > > Sublord of Su is Me:> > > >> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >> > > >> > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses> > > > strongly.> > > >> > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > >> > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> > > >> > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:> > > >> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >> > > >> > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.> > > > >> > > > > WHEN:> > > > >

> > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07> > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and Vidashas> > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > > > >> > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9.> > > >> > > > Planet Ke:> > > >> > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)> > > >

> > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11> > > >> > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj> > Sa[7,> > > > 1])> > > >

> > > >> > > >> > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.> > > >> > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)> > > >> > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >> > > > Sublord of Su is Me:> > > >> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])> > > >> > > > >> > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

> > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.> > > > >> > > > > Moon=7,9> > > > > Mars=3,7,9> > > > > Rahu=7,9> > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> > > > >> > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve(7, 5-10, Cnj> > Sa[7,> > > > 1])> > > >> > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

> > > >> > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12> > > >

> > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)> > > >> > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:> > > >> > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

> > > >> > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)> > > >> > > >> > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)> > > >

> > > >> > > >> > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)> > > >> > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)> > > >> > > >

> > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going houses= 3,9,12,> > 7> > > > >> > > > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st

half of Nov> > 07> > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the periods for> > > > > foreign going of the child.> > > > >> > > > > Child will go with her mother

> > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so mother> > will> > > > > go to foreign> > > > >> > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying

mother's> > foreign> > > > houses> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Dr Sheetal> > > > >

> > > > > msg#14905> > > > >> > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,> > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You have> > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included

December> > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising> > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay is> > > > > possible.

> > > > > with regards,> > > > > sujatkaram. , Sheetal

> > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote:> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Dear sunil gondhalekar,

 

> in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only >

 

> Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have

noted > correctly.

 

 

1. Dr.Sheetal's taking of Jupiter sokshma (of 2 days period only)

for 12th house signification to complete 3,9,12,7 chain is not in

line with the above rule.

 

 

> > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

 

> > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

> > houses= 3,9,12,7

 

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

 

2. The sookshma matter would not be clear for 4 step lovers, if >

there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma > and nothing is

clearly expalined except saying to read here and there.

 

tw

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear tw853,

> in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only

> but to find more closer period sokshma is considered.

> there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma because

> it depends on DBA and the time of consultation.

> if you can find any specific rule then it will be highly

appreciated.

> main clue is given in my articles are totally depends on specific

query

> but i take sookshma of main houses.

> the example on sookshma is given in ASTROVISION Jan.08 issue,page

no.56, which

> you can

> analyse.

> in Surat seminar,chart no.8,9,10and 13 were discussed for sooksma.

> Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have

noted

> correctly.

> i hope this will be cleared the matter

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 2/12/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > dear sunil gondhalekar,

> >

> > 1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and

buyers of

> > your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link it in

> > making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4

step

> > note will be revised.

> >

> > 2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step

> > theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of the

RPs,

> > and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be complete

in

> > the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA. The

> > sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and it's

> > only mentioned that sookshma can be used.

> >

> > 3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only for

> > 2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to make

the

> > DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as mentioned

in

> > the 4 step book.

> >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> >

> > 4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers and

> > buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose

sookshma

> > in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as given in

> > the Attachment.

> >

> > 5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to

the 4

> > step theory and no body is against it and the question is what is

> > its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it.

> >

> > 4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes seems

> > not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this

> > sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be

applicable

> > practically?

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > ATTACHMENT

> >

> > In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running

Dasa

> > lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required

> > houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and

repeat

> > the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave

> > this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord,

which

> > is a primary significator of any of the required houses.

Secondly it

> > is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary

> > significator of any of the required houses other than already

> > signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the

> > Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing

house to

> > make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3

required

> > houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)

> >

> > A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary

significators of

> > the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38,

46-

> > 47, 68, 80)

> >

> > 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time

of

> > question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next

Antara, if

> > the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the

> > last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

> >

> > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as

the

> > nodes are stronger than the planets.

> >

> > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is

> > primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a

> > supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the

DBA

> > chain complete.

> >

> > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of

> > the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration

(4th

> > in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving

> > preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary

> > significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house).

> >

> > Shri Raichur's Explanation

> >

> > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord

> > signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger'

> > steps 3 and 4.

> >

> > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving

> > Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the

ANTARA

> > Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within

the

> > period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).

> >

> > For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast

moving,

> > the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus

common

> > sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.

> >

> > Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is

> > determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear tw,

> > > each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i

have

> > written

> > > articles in marathi

> > > regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is to

> > know the

> > > theory first.

> > > thanks

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

> > > >

> > > > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers, -

--

> > to help

> > > > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign

going

> > complete ,

> > > > *esp. application of Sookshma

> > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > *

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <%

40>,

> > Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Twji

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for editing my mail

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Four Step Lovers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how

DBAS

> > is applied

> > > > to

> > > > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp.

application

> > of Sooksha

> > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

40>,

> > Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr

Sheetal

> > > > > > > ratnamalag@

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which

has

> > deviated

> > > > > > > from its original path of knowledge.

> > > > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so

I am

> > > > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis.

> > > > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at

Ratnagiri,

> > > > Maharashtra,

> > > > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The

parents

> > have

> > > > planned

> > > > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007.

I

> > have tried

> > > > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going

abroad

> > in

> > > > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or

wrong.

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > sujatkaram <%

40>,

> > " Punit Pandey "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@

> > > > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> > > > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

> > > > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs,

Asc

> > Cp

> > > > 04:23:31

> > > > > > (KPAstro 3.0)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12

and 7

> > houses

> > > > > > strongly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break

journey.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WHEN:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07

> > > > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti:

and

> > Vidashas

> > > > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ke:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve

(7,

> > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > 1])

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

> > > > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve

(7,

> > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > 1])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

> > houses= 3,9,12,

> > > > 7

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st

> > half of Nov

> > > > 07

> > > > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the

> > periods for

> > > > > > > foreign going of the child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Child will go with her mother

> > > > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies

3rd so

> > mother

> > > > will

> > > > > > > go to foreign

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying

> > mother's

> > > > foreign

> > > > > > houses

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > msg#14905

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,

> > > > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and

congrats.You

> > have

> > > > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly

included

> > December

> > > > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is

> > realising

> > > > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so

some

> > delay is

> > > > > > > possible.

> > > > > > > with regards,

> > > > > > > sujatkaram. --- In

<%40>,

> > Sheetal

> > > > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

DearSir

I am a new member of this group.I want to

know the name of the book “4 STEP book”

Kindly intimate is it available in

tamilnadu

withregards

 

 

S.Visveswaran

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of tw853

Tuesday, February 19, 2008

6:19 PM

 

Re: Fwd:

Sujatkaram's 2nd querry re child's foreign journey solved by Dr Sheetal for

ref.

 

 

 

 

 

Dear sunil gondhalekar,

 

> in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only >

 

> Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have

noted > correctly.

 

1. Dr.Sheetal's taking of Jupiter sokshma (of 2 days period only)

for 12th house signification to complete 3,9,12,7 chain is not in

line with the above rule.

 

> > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

 

> > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of

Nov07)

> to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

> > houses= 3,9,12,7

 

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

 

2. The sookshma matter would not be clear for 4 step lovers, if >

there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma > and nothing is

clearly expalined except saying to read here and there.

 

tw

 

,

" sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear tw853,

> in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only

> but to find more closer period sokshma is considered.

> there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma because

> it depends on DBA and the time of consultation.

> if you can find any specific rule then it will be highly

appreciated.

> main clue is given in my articles are totally depends on specific

query

> but i take sookshma of main houses.

> the example on sookshma is given in ASTROVISION Jan.08 issue,page

no.56, which

> you can

> analyse.

> in Surat seminar,chart no.8,9,10and 13 were discussed for sooksma.

> Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have

noted

> correctly.

> i hope this will be cleared the matter

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

>

> On 2/12/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > dear sunil gondhalekar,

> >

> > 1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and

buyers of

> > your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link it in

> > making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4

step

> > note will be revised.

> >

> > 2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step

> > theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of the

RPs,

> > and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be complete

in

> > the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA. The

> > sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and it's

> > only mentioned that sookshma can be used.

> >

> > 3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only for

> > 2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to make

the

> > DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as mentioned

in

> > the 4 step book.

> >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> >

> > 4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers and

> > buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose

sookshma

> > in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as given in

> > the Attachment.

> >

> > 5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to

the 4

> > step theory and no body is against it and the question is what is

> > its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it.

> >

> > 4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes seems

> > not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this

> > sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be

applicable

> > practically?

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > ATTACHMENT

> >

> > In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running

Dasa

> > lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required

> > houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and

repeat

> > the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave

> > this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord,

which

> > is a primary significator of any of the required houses.

Secondly it

> > is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary

> > significator of any of the required houses other than already

> > signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the

> > Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing

house to

> > make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3

required

> > houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32)

> >

> > A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary

significators of

> > the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38,

46-

> > 47, 68, 80)

> >

> > 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time

of

> > question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next

Antara, if

> > the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the

> > last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

> >

> > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as

the

> > nodes are stronger than the planets.

> >

> > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is

> > primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a

> > supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the

DBA

> > chain complete.

> >

> > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of

> > the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration

(4th

> > in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving

> > preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary

> > significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house).

> >

> > Shri Raichur's Explanation

> >

> > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord

> > signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger'

> > steps 3 and 4.

> >

> > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving

> > Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the

ANTARA

> > Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within

the

> > period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).

> >

> > For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast

moving,

> > the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus

common

> > sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.

> >

> > Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is

> > determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

> >

> >

<%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear tw,

> > > each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i

have

> > written

> > > articles in marathi

> > > regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is to

> > know the

> > > theory first.

> > > thanks

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

> > > >

> > > > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step Lovers,

-

--

> > to help

> > > > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of

foreign

going

> > complete ,

> > > > *esp. application of Sookshma

> > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > *

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

<%

40>,

> > Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Twji

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for editing my mail

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Four Step Lovers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help

study how

DBAS

> > is applied

> > > > to

> > > > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp.

application

> > of Sooksha

> > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

<%

40>,

> > Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly

by Dr

Sheetal

> > > > > > > ratnamalag@

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ >

wrote:

> > > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the

discussion which

has

> > deviated

> > > > > > > from its original path of knowledge.

> > > > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step

method and so

I am

> > > > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis.

> > > > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007

at

Ratnagiri,

> > > > Maharashtra,

> > > > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad.

The

parents

> > have

> > > > planned

> > > > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming

November 2007.

I

> > have tried

> > > > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of

her going

abroad

> > in

> > > > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am

right or

wrong.

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > sujatkaram <%

40>,

> > " Punit Pandey "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@

> > > > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step

theory

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> > > > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13

degree)

> > > > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18

degree)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at

20.35 hrs,

Asc

> > Cp

> > > > 04:23:31

> > > > > > (KPAstro 3.0)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7,

5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7,

5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It

signifies 9,12

and 7

> > houses

> > > > > > strongly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7,

5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows

break

journey.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WHEN:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07

> > > > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha:

Surya Bhukti:

and

> > Vidashas

> > > > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in

Dec1st half.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ke:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]);

Stl Ve

(7,

> > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > 1])

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7,

5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7,

5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues

strongly.

> > > > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars,

Rahu,Guru.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]);

Stl Ve

(7,

> > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > 1])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7,

5-10])

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half

of Nov07)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half

of Dec 07)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum

foreign going

> > houses= 3,9,12,

> > > > 7

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also

matched in 1st

> > half of Nov

> > > > 07

> > > > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I

selected both the

> > periods for

> > > > > > > foreign going of the child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Child will go with her mother

> > > > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu

signifies

3rd so

> > mother

> > > > will

> > > > > > > go to foreign

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are

signifying

> > mother's

> > > > foreign

> > > > > > houses

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > msg#14905

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,

> > > > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis

and

congrats.You

> > have

> > > > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and

rightly

included

> > December

> > > > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The

father is

> > realising

> > > > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned

and so

some

> > delay is

> > > > > > > possible.

> > > > > > > with regards,

> > > > > > > sujatkaram.

<%40>,

> > Sheetal

> > > > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

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The book on 4 step can be had from following address.

 

Mr.Sunil Gondhalekar 109 Godavari, Laxmi Industrial Complex

Vartak nagar, Thane 400606

 

Ph.No. 022 25888179

9819248179 Mobile

 

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, " Visveswaran " <easweriyer

wrote:

>

> DearSir

>

> I am a new member of this group.I want to know the name of the

book " 4 STEP

> book "

>

> Kindly intimate is it available in tamilnadu

>

> withregards

>

>

>

> S.Visveswaran

>

> _____

>

>

On

> Behalf Of tw853

> Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:19 PM

>

> Re: Fwd: Sujatkaram's 2nd querry re child's

foreign

> journey solved by Dr Sheetal for ref.

>

>

>

> Dear sunil gondhalekar,

>

> > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only >

>

> > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you

have

> noted > correctly.

>

> 1. Dr.Sheetal's taking of Jupiter sokshma (of 2 days period only)

> for 12th house signification to complete 3,9,12,7 chain is not in

> line with the above rule.

>

> > > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

>

> > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

> > > houses= 3,9,12,7

>

> > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

>

> 2. The sookshma matter would not be clear for 4 step lovers, if >

> there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma > and nothing is

> clearly expalined except saying to read here and there.

>

> tw

>

> @gro <%40>

ups.com,

> " sunil gondhalekar "

> <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> >

> > dear tw853,

> > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only

> > but to find more closer period sokshma is considered.

> > there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma because

> > it depends on DBA and the time of consultation.

> > if you can find any specific rule then it will be highly

> appreciated.

> > main clue is given in my articles are totally depends on specific

> query

> > but i take sookshma of main houses.

> > the example on sookshma is given in ASTROVISION Jan.08 issue,page

> no.56, which

> > you can

> > analyse.

> > in Surat seminar,chart no.8,9,10and 13 were discussed for sooksma.

> > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you

have

> noted

> > correctly.

> > i hope this will be cleared the matter

> > -sunil gondhalekar

> >

> >

> > On 2/12/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear sunil gondhalekar,

> > >

> > > 1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and

> buyers of

> > > your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link it

in

> > > making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4

> step

> > > note will be revised.

> > >

> > > 2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step

> > > theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of the

> RPs,

> > > and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be complete

> in

> > > the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA. The

> > > sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and it's

> > > only mentioned that sookshma can be used.

> > >

> > > 3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only for

> > > 2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to

make

> the

> > > DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as mentioned

> in

> > > the 4 step book.

> > >

> > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > >

> > > 4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers and

> > > buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose

> sookshma

> > > in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as given

in

> > > the Attachment.

> > >

> > > 5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to

> the 4

> > > step theory and no body is against it and the question is what

is

> > > its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it.

> > >

> > > 4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes

seems

> > > not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this

> > > sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be

> applicable

> > > practically?

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > ATTACHMENT

> > >

> > > In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running

> Dasa

> > > lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required

> > > houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and

> repeat

> > > the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not, leave

> > > this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord,

> which

> > > is a primary significator of any of the required houses.

> Secondly it

> > > is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a

primary

> > > significator of any of the required houses other than already

> > > signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the

> > > Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing

> house to

> > > make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3

> required

> > > houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-

32)

> > >

> > > A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary

> significators of

> > > the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38,

> 46-

> > > 47, 68, 80)

> > >

> > > 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the

time

> of

> > > question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next

> Antara, if

> > > the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of

the

> > > last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

> > >

> > > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as

> the

> > > nodes are stronger than the planets.

> > >

> > > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is

> > > primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of

a

> > > supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make

the

> DBA

> > > chain complete.

> > >

> > > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator

of

> > > the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration

> (4th

> > > in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving

> > > preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary

> > > significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a

house).

> > >

> > > Shri Raichur's Explanation

> > >

> > > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord

> > > signifies the required houses in the `more important or

stronger'

> > > steps 3 and 4.

> > >

> > > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving

> > > Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the

> ANTARA

> > > Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within

> the

> > > period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).

> > >

> > > For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast

> moving,

> > > the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus

> common

> > > sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.

> > >

> > > Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is

> > > determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

> > >

> > > @gro <%

40> ups.com

> <%

> 40>, " sunil

> > > gondhalekar "

> > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear tw,

> > > > each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i

> have

> > > written

> > > > articles in marathi

> > > > regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is

to

> > > know the

> > > > theory first.

> > > > thanks

> > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step

Lovers, -

> --

> > > to help

> > > > > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign

> going

> > > complete ,

> > > > > *esp. application of Sookshma

> > > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > > *

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro <%

40>

> ups.com <%

> 40>,

> > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Twji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for editing my mail

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Four Step Lovers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how

> DBAS

> > > is applied

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp.

> application

> > > of Sooksha

> > > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > @gro <%

40>

> ups.com <%

> 40>,

> > > Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr

> Sheetal

> > > > > > > > ratnamalag@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which

> has

> > > deviated

> > > > > > > > from its original path of knowledge.

> > > > > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and

so

> I am

> > > > > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis.

> > > > > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at

> Ratnagiri,

> > > > > Maharashtra,

> > > > > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The

> parents

> > > have

> > > > > planned

> > > > > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November

2007.

> I

> > > have tried

> > > > > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going

> abroad

> > > in

> > > > > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or

> wrong.

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > sujatkaram@gro

> <%40> ups.com<%

> 40>,

> > > " Punit Pandey "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@

> > > > > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> > > > > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

> > > > > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs,

> Asc

> > > Cp

> > > > > 04:23:31

> > > > > > > (KPAstro 3.0)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12

> and 7

> > > houses

> > > > > > > strongly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break

> journey.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > WHEN:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07

> > > > > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti:

> and

> > > Vidashas

> > > > > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Ke:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve

> (7,

> > > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > > 1])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

> > > > > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve

> (7,

> > > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > > 1])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

> > > houses= 3,9,12,

> > > > > 7

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in

1st

> > > half of Nov

> > > > > 07

> > > > > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both

the

> > > periods for

> > > > > > > > foreign going of the child.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Child will go with her mother

> > > > > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies

> 3rd so

> > > mother

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > go to foreign

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying

> > > mother's

> > > > > foreign

> > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > msg#14905

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,

> > > > > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and

> congrats.You

> > > have

> > > > > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly

> included

> > > December

> > > > > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is

> > > realising

> > > > > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so

> some

> > > delay is

> > > > > > > > possible.

> > > > > > > > with regards,

> > > > > > > > sujatkaram. --- In

> @gro <%40>

> ups.com<%40>,

> > > Sheetal

> > > > > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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dEAR mR VisveswaranThere is no Book by name 4 step Book. The 4step Method is taught by Sri Sunil Gondhalekar. The lessons are sent in form of a booklet. The Price is Rs 500 +50 postage.Send DD in name of Sunil Goandhalekar 109 Godavari, Laxmi-Ind Comlex, Watrak Nagar THANE 4000606.His email is <sunilalakaHope this helpsVisveswaran <easweriyer wrote: DearSir I am a new member of this group.I want to know the name of the book “4 STEP book” Kindly intimate is it available in tamilnadu withregards S.Visveswaran On Behalf Of tw853 Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:19 PM Re: Fwd: Sujatkaram's 2nd querry re child's foreign journey solved by Dr Sheetal for ref. Dear sunil gondhalekar, > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only > > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have noted > correctly. 1. Dr.Sheetal's taking of Jupiter sokshma (of 2 days period only) for 12th house signification to complete 3,9,12,7 chain is not in line with the above rule. > > > > > > Moon=7,9 > > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9 > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9 > > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12 > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07) > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign

going > > houses= 3,9,12,7 > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007) 2. The sookshma matter would not be clear for 4 step lovers, if > there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma > and nothing is clearly expalined except saying to read here and there. tw , "sunil gondhalekar" <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear tw853, > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only > but to find more closer period sokshma is considered. > there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma because > it depends on DBA and the time of consultation. > if you can find any specific rule then it will be highly appreciated. > main clue is given in my articles are totally depends on specific query > but i take sookshma of main houses.

> the example on sookshma is given in ASTROVISION Jan.08 issue,page no.56, which > you can > analyse. > in Surat seminar,chart no.8,9,10and 13 were discussed for sooksma. > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have noted > correctly. > i hope this will be cleared the matter > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 2/12/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > > dear sunil gondhalekar, > > > > 1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and buyers of > > your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link it in > > making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4 step > > note will be revised. > > > > 2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step > > theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of the

RPs, > > and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be complete in > > the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA. The > > sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and it's > > only mentioned that sookshma can be used. > > > > 3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only for > > 2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to make the > > DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as mentioned in > > the 4 step book. > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007) > > > > 4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers and > > buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose sookshma > > in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as given in > > the Attachment. >

> > > 5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to the 4 > > step theory and no body is against it and the question is what is > > its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it. > > > > 4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes seems > > not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this > > sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be applicable > > practically? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > ATTACHMENT > > > > In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running Dasa > > lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required > > houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat > > the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not,

leave > > this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which > > is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it > > is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary > > significator of any of the required houses other than already > > signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the > > Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing house to > > make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required > > houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32) > > > > A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary significators of > > the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38, 46- > > 47, 68, 80) > > > > 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time

of > > question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, if > > the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the > > last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign; > > > > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as the > > nodes are stronger than the planets. > > > > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is > > primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a > > supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA > > chain complete. > > > > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of > > the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration (4th > > in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving > > preference to the cusp sub-lord, which

is also a primary > > significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house). > > > > Shri Raichur's Explanation > > > > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord > > signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger' > > steps 3 and 4. > > > > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving > > Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the ANTARA > > Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the > > period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa). > > > > For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast moving, > > the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus common > > sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event. > > > > Another rule is that the planet being

favourable or not, is > > determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only. > > > > <% 40>, "sunil > > gondhalekar" > > <sunilalaka@> wrote: > > > > > > dear tw, > > > each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i have > > written > > > articles in marathi > > > regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is to > > know the > > > theory first. > > > thanks > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dr Sheetal ji, > > > > > > > > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four

Step Lovers, - -- > > to help > > > > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going > > complete , > > > > *esp. application of Sookshma > > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book. > > > > * > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Twji > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for editing my mail > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > >

> > > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Four Step Lovers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS > > is applied > > > > to > > > > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application > > of Sooksha > > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > ratnamalag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has > > deviated > > > > > > > from its original path of knowledge. > > > > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so I am

> > > > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis. > > > > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, > > > > Maharashtra, > > > > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents > > have > > > > planned > > > > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007. I > > have tried > > > > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad > > in > > > > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or wrong. > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > sujatkaram <% 40>, > > "Punit

Pandey" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@ > > > > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU. > > > > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree) > > > > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9 > > > >

> > > > > > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc > > Cp > > > > 04:23:31 > > > > > > (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9) > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 > > houses > > > > > > strongly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12 > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHEN: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07 > > > > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and > > Vidashas > > > > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9. > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Ke: > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve (7, > > 5-10, Cnj > > > > Sa[7, > > > > > > 1]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7. > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9) > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me: > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly. > > > > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon=7,9 > > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9 > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9 > > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl

Ve (7, > > 5-10, Cnj > > > > Sa[7, > > > > > > 1]) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10) > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of

Nov07) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going > > houses= 3,9,12, > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st > > half of Nov > > > > 07 > > > > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the > > periods for > > > > > > > foreign going of the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Child will go with her mother > > > > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies 3rd so > > mother > > > > will > > > > > > > go to foreign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying > > mother's > > > > foreign > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > msg#14905 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal, > > > > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You > > have > > > > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included > > December > > > > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is > > realising > > > > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some > > delay is > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > > sujatkaram. <%40>, > > Sheetal > > > > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2887 (20080219) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com raichur anant mumbai

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Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr SheetalratnamalagDear Twji

 

I am trying to answer ur query as per my views and knowledge. I know many Astrogers may have objection/querries on this but I am writing what I concluded after reading kp books and I may be wrong but these r my views.

 

We should always see DBASP wheather its general kp or kp 4step, to fix the period. Majority of the signifying houses should be covered in all dasha periods to fructify the incidence. All DBASP should signify /tally those houses required for perticular querry, if we do minute study. But this will be correct only if we have a perfect software. Because Sukshma dasha( S.D.) and Pran dasha(P.D.) are of few days to few hrs we cant rely on the SW so we consider dasahs till DBA. BUT scientifically not only S.D but also P.D should also match or work in the chain( this is my understanding).

 

In KP 4 STEP, after DBA(SP) we r supposed to conclude finally by transit of these DBA(SP) lords and fix the day by moon transit through star, and hour/exact time by lagna transit through star and sub and all (ALL) these should match with the strong significators signifying perticular querry ie making chain of the strong significators(not only DBA (but their transit and Moon and lagna transit too). But as we r short of sources like perfect software so we can be wrong in minute calcuations. (I feel this should be the main reason of Mr Gondhalekar in considering only broad dashas like DBA and transit of them.When u r publishing book, u have to write with study of atleast 100 cases and he and 4step lovers are still doing study to have lot of cases)

 

But if u do the retrospective study u will get what I wrote above and if u dont get all fructifying significators making chain with one or more significators then it means that software is not very correct. This is kp and not only 4step what I understood after reading kp is this only.I used to see Sukhsma D.before starting use of kp 4step.

 

Now I am explaining how I concluded for the child's foreign journey with S.D. in Dec 1st half.

Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12 and 7 houses strongly.Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey.WHEN:Wants to go in Nov 07

Dashas running in Nov 07 are=

Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti:

and Vidashas left are=

Chandra,Mangal and Rahu,in Nov and Guru vidasha in Dec1st half.Maha Ketu=7,9.Bhukti Surya =9,7.We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahuin Nov andGuru in Dec 07

They signify as follows=Moon=7,9Mars=3,7,9Rahu=7,9Guru=7,9,12Mars and Guru are strong as Vidasha so what to select.

Guru is the 12 sub and 9th sublord and its strong as no planets in its star and as we read in cuspal sublord speaks (though its not in 4 steps that strong cuspal sublord is a strong significator of that perticular house, it gave some clue to me) I wanted to select GURU (for 9 & 12) Vidasha and Mars( for3)Sukhsma to complete the chain.

 

But if we take Mars, it signfies 3,9,7 and still 12 house is lacking in chain and if we take Guru then 7,9,12 here 3rd house is lacking.

 

Now what to do.

I wrote on 12th Feb 07 in my reply that I found many times in birth charts when we see retrospectively, chain is not complete with DBA and I have few charts like that so I did retrospective study and I found that the chain was completed with sukshma dasha in those conditions so I started making chain with DBAS for all querries. Sometimes we find chain is completed in Maha Dasha only still we have to see bhukti and Antara with signifying houses for final conclusion, Like that even if chain completed with DBA we should see for Sukshma to have more accuracy and if the chain is not complete with DBA then according to me there is no choice and u have to include S.D. I specifically see S.D.

 

1.where Vidasha is big (4-5 mon)and

2. when chain is not getting completed with DBA.

 

In this case=

1st group=Ketu--Sun--Mar--Guru competes the chain 3-9-12-7-5

2nd group=Ketu--Sun--Guru--Mars complete the chain 3-9-12-7-5( now a days it is mentioned that 7 and 5 to be included)

 

Thats why I gave 2 periods and matched transit for 2wks as sukshma dasha I have always seen SD differ in different SW. Though I concluded in my calculations a period of few days but didnt give in my analysis and mentioned the period as 1st half of Nov and 1st half of Dec (and I alone take the pleasure of predicting perfect day or exact wk and I dont announce it.) I prefered 1st half of Dec because of Guru being the sublord for above mentioned reasons.If u go thruough, u will see that it is a period of less than 1wk thought I wrote 2wks.

 

Whatever rules are given we have to give little turn to it without changing its primary meaning. Nothing is established yet as 100% and all r doing research here so we have to search it for ourselves. The person who introduced any theory has some specific thing in his mind which everybody dosn't know so if we take his opinion, it will benifit us only. Mr Gondhalekar is so modest person and helpfull to everybody. I always get time to time help from him whenever I need. He wrote the basic rules for 4steps and I think we all can study 4steps and add to it with proofs (of 100 cases) with his guidence, I don't think he will have any objection.

 

I close this with Sadar Pranam to Mr Gondhalekar Sir.

 

Mr Twji I exactly think as u think and had same querries in my mind so I can understand why u want to know all this in details.I asked all these querries whatever u had re 4step to Mr Gondhalekar in work shops and he replied all my querries very calmly. Because I am very much interested in exact and minute results so I try SD in each and every case. The difference is if we r face to face, question-answer session is finished in few sentenses and when u r writting some explanation u have to write a big essay which time consuming and very much boring.

 

I have few softwares, they shows different subs for one planet(!!!).What to do in such cases? I can understand cuspal sub changing with different SW, then how can u believe the exactness of Sukshma dasha?

 

Now also if u feel to ask some querry u can ask I will try to reply in my ways.

 

Regards

 

Dr Sheetal

 

 

 

msg#14905Respected Dr. Sheetal,Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You havewidened the scope of your prediction and rightly included December07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is realising

difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so some delay ispossible.with regards,sujatkaram. , Sheetal<ratnamalag wrote:

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you can more information on 4 step theory on the below mentioned link http://www.astrologyask.com On 2/23/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

 

 

 

 

dEAR mR VisveswaranThere is no Book by name 4 step Book. The 4step Method is taught by Sri Sunil Gondhalekar. The lessons are sent in form of a booklet. The Price is Rs 500 +50 postage.Send DD in name of Sunil Goandhalekar 109 Godavari, Laxmi-Ind Comlex, Watrak Nagar THANE 4000606.

His email is <sunilalakaHope this helpsVisveswaran <easweriyer wrote:

DearSir

I am a new member of this group.I want to know the name of the book "4 STEP book" Kindly intimate is it available in tamilnadu

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:19 PM

Re: Fwd: Sujatkaram's 2nd querry re child's foreign journey solved by Dr Sheetal for ref.

Dear sunil gondhalekar, > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only > > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have

noted > correctly. 1. Dr.Sheetal's taking of Jupiter sokshma (of 2 days period only) for 12th house signification to complete 3,9,12,7 chain is not in line with the above rule. > > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9 > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9 > > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12 > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign

going > > houses= 3,9,12,7 > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007) 2. The sookshma matter would not be clear for 4 step lovers, if > there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma > and nothing is

clearly expalined except saying to read here and there. tw , " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote: > > dear tw853, > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only > but to find more closer period sokshma is considered. > there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma because

> it depends on DBA and the time of consultation. > if you can find any specific rule then it will be highly appreciated. > main clue is given in my articles are totally depends on specific query

> but i take sookshma of main houses.

> the example on sookshma is given in ASTROVISION Jan.08 issue,page no.56, which > you can > analyse. > in Surat seminar,chart no.8,9,10and 13 were discussed for sooksma. > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you have

noted > correctly. > i hope this will be cleared the matter > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 2/12/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > > dear sunil gondhalekar,

> > > > 1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and buyers of > > your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link it in > > making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4

step > > note will be revised. > > > > 2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step > > theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of the

RPs, > > and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be complete in > > the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA. The > > sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and it's

> > only mentioned that sookshma can be used. > > > > 3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only for > > 2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to make

the > > DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as mentioned in > > the 4 step book. > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007) > > > > 4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers and

> > buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose sookshma > > in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as given in > > the Attachment. >

> > > 5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to the 4 > > step theory and no body is against it and the question is what is > > its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it.

> > > > 4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes seems > > not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this > > sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be

applicable > > practically? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > ATTACHMENT > > > > In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running

Dasa > > lord is a primary significator of at least one of the required > > houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and repeat > > the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not,

leave > > this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa lord, which > > is a primary significator of any of the required houses. Secondly it > > is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a primary

> > significator of any of the required houses other than already > > signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose the > > Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing

house to > > make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3 required > > houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages 31-32) > > > > A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary

significators of > > the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-38, 46- > > 47, 68, 80) > > > > 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the time

of > > question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next Antara, if > > the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara of the > > last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

> > > > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen, as the > > nodes are stronger than the planets. > > > > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage) is

> > primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator of a > > supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make the DBA > > chain complete. > > > > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary significator of

> > the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under consideration (4th > > in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with giving > > preference to the cusp sub-lord, which

is also a primary > > significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a house). > > > > Shri Raichur's Explanation > > > > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord

> > signifies the required houses in the `more important or stronger' > > steps 3 and 4. > > > > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast Moving > > Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the

ANTARA > > Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets, within the > > period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa). > > > > For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast

moving, > > the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus common > > sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event. > > > > Another rule is that the planet being

favourable or not, is > > determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only. > > > > <%

40>, " sunil > > gondhalekar " > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > > dear tw, > > > each and every thing can not be included in one single book.i have > > written > > > articles in marathi > > > regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book is to

> > know the > > > theory first. > > > thanks > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > >

> > > > Dear Dr Sheetal ji, > > > > > > > > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four

Step Lovers, - -- > > to help > > > > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign going > > complete , > > > > *esp. application of Sookshma

> > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book. > > > > * > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%

40>, > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Twji

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for editing my mail > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > >

> > > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Four Step Lovers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study how DBAS > > is applied

> > > > to > > > > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp. application > > of Sooksha > > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > > <% 40>,

> > Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > ratnamalag@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion which has > > deviated > > > > > > > from its original path of knowledge. > > > > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method and so

I am

> > > > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis. > > > > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, > > > > Maharashtra,

> > > > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The parents > > have > > > > planned > > > > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November 2007.

I > > have tried > > > > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going abroad > > in > > > > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or

wrong. > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > sujatkaram <%

40>, > > " Punit

Pandey " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@ > > > > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU. > > > > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree) > > > > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9 > > > >

> > > > > > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35 hrs, Asc > > Cp > > > > 04:23:31 > > > > > > (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9) > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies 9,12

and 7 > > houses > > > > > > strongly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12 > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me: > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10])

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break journey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHEN:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07 > > > > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya Bhukti: and > > Vidashas

> > > > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st half. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9. > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Ke: > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

> > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl Ve (7, > > 5-10, Cnj > > > > Sa[7, > > > > > > 1])

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7. > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me: > > > > >

> > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

> > > > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon=7,9 > > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9 > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]); Stl

Ve (7, > > 5-10, Cnj > > > > Sa[7, > > > > > > 1]) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10) > > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me: > > > > > >

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-10]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of

Nov07) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec 07) > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007) > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going > > houses= 3,9,12, > > > > 7 > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched in 1st > > half of Nov > > > > 07 > > > > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected both the > > periods for

> > > > > > > foreign going of the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Child will go with her mother > > > > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies

3rd so > > mother > > > > will > > > > > > > go to foreign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are signifying

> > mother's > > > > foreign > > > > > > houses > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > msg#14905 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,

> > > > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and congrats.You > > have > > > > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly included

> > December > > > > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The father is > > realising > > > > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so

some > > delay is > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > > sujatkaram. <%40>,

> > Sheetal > > > > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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, " e mail " <email wrote:

>

> you can more information on 4 step theory on the below mentioned

link

> http://www.astrologyask.com

>

> On 2/23/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

> >

> > dEAR mR Visveswaran

> > There is no Book by name 4 step Book. The 4step Method is

taught by Sri

> > Sunil Gondhalekar. The lessons are sent in form of a booklet.

The Price is

> > Rs 500 +50 postage.

> > Send DD in name of Sunil Goandhalekar 109 Godavari, Laxmi-Ind

Comlex,

> > Watrak Nagar THANE 4000606.

> > His email is <sunilalaka

> > Hope this helps

> >

> >

> > *Visveswaran <easweriyer* wrote:

> >

> > DearSir

> > I am a new member of this group.I want to know the name of the

book " 4

> > STEP book "

> > Kindly intimate is it available in tamilnadu

> > withregards

> >

> > S.Visveswaran

> > ------------------------------

> > **

*On

> > Behalf Of *tw853

> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:19 PM

> > *To:*

> > *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Sujatkaram's 2nd querry re

child's

> > foreign journey solved by Dr Sheetal for ref.

> >

> > Dear sunil gondhalekar,

> >

> > > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only >

> >

> > > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you

have

> > noted > correctly.

> >

> > 1. Dr.Sheetal's taking of Jupiter sokshma (of 2 days period only)

> > for 12th house signification to complete 3,9,12,7 chain is not in

> > line with the above rule.

> >

> > > > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> >

> > > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of Nov07)

> > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign going

> > > > houses= 3,9,12,7

> >

> > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> >

> > 2. The sookshma matter would not be clear for 4 step lovers, if >

> > there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma > and nothing is

> > clearly expalined except saying to read here and there.

> >

> > tw

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear tw853,

> > > in 4 step theory the chain is completed in DBA only

> > > but to find more closer period sokshma is considered.

> > > there are no specific rules to confirm sookshma because

> > > it depends on DBA and the time of consultation.

> > > if you can find any specific rule then it will be highly

> > appreciated.

> > > main clue is given in my articles are totally depends on

specific

> > query

> > > but i take sookshma of main houses.

> > > the example on sookshma is given in ASTROVISION Jan.08

issue,page

> > no.56, which

> > > you can

> > > analyse.

> > > in Surat seminar,chart no.8,9,10and 13 were discussed for

sooksma.

> > > Dr.sheetal has taken 12th as main house for sooksma which you

have

> > noted

> > > correctly.

> > > i hope this will be cleared the matter

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > >

> > > On 2/12/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear sunil gondhalekar,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Why don't you kindly explain here for 4 step lovers and

> > buyers of

> > > > your book how to apply this sookshma period and how to link

it in

> > > > making the chain of DBAS complete, and then accordingly the 4

> > step

> > > > note will be revised.

> > > >

> > > > 2. According to the 4 step book, the `main essence' of 4 step

> > > > theory is to judge the timing of events without the help of

the

> > RPs,

> > > > and the chain of required houses for a matter is to be

complete

> > in

> > > > the DBA with at least one different house each in each DBA.

The

> > > > sookshma is nothing to do in making the chain complete, and

it's

> > > > only mentioned that sookshma can be used.

> > > >

> > > > 3. In Dr. Sheetal's application, sookshma Ju (which is only

for

> > > > 2days only) is taken for the signification of 12th house to

make

> > the

> > > > DBAS chain complete for foreign going. This is not as

mentioned

> > in

> > > > the 4 step book.

> > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > >

> > > > 4. So to make it clear and for the benefit of 4 step lovers

and

> > > > buyers of your book, could you kindly expalin how to choose

> > sookshma

> > > > in the same manner expalined for the choice of Antara as

given in

> > > > the Attachment.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Please note that the application of this sookshma is up to

> > the 4

> > > > step theory and no body is against it and the question is

what is

> > > > its role in making the chain complete and how to choose it.

> > > >

> > > > 4. If say so, the 4 step book of photocopy of lecture notes

seems

> > > > not complete even for theory part without expalnation of this

> > > > sookshma. When and where will be the practical part to be

> > applicable

> > > > practically?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > ATTACHMENT

> > > >

> > > > In fixing the DBA, firstly it is to check whether the running

> > Dasa

> > > > lord is a primary significator of at least one of the

required

> > > > houses (2, 7, 11 for marriage). If it does, then take it and

> > repeat

> > > > the same to check the running Bhukti lord. If it does not,

leave

> > > > this Dasa and go to the next Dasa, till finding the Dasa

lord,

> > which

> > > > is a primary significator of any of the required houses.

> > Secondly it

> > > > is to repeat the same to choose a Bhukti lord, which is a

primary

> > > > significator of any of the required houses other than already

> > > > signified by the chosen Dasa lord. Thirdly it is to choose

the

> > > > Antara lord, which is a primary significator of the missing

> > house to

> > > > make the DBA chain (2, 7, 11 for marriage) complete. The 3

> > required

> > > > houses must be found in the DBA lords. (4 Step book, pages

31-32)

> > > >

> > > > A fruitful Antara can be chosen out of many primary

> > significators of

> > > > the required houses as given under: (4 Step book, pages 37-

38,

> > 46-

> > > > 47, 68, 80)

> > > >

> > > > 1) the priority is given to (a) the earliest Antara, at the

time

> > of

> > > > question, if the Lagna is in a movable sign; (b) the next

> > Antara, if

> > > > the Lagna is in a fixed sign; and © the following Antara

of the

> > > > last priority, if the Lagna is in a common sign;

> > > >

> > > > 2) if it is still doubtful, Rahu/Ketu Antara can be chosen,

as

> > the

> > > > nodes are stronger than the planets.

> > > >

> > > > 3) When a main house of the required houses (2 for marriage)

is

> > > > primarily signified by a planet only, a primary significator

of a

> > > > supportive house (5 or 8 for marriage) can be chosen to make

the

> > DBA

> > > > chain complete.

> > > >

> > > > 4) If there is not any planet, which is a primary

significator of

> > > > the required houses, the sub-lord of a cusp under

consideration

> > (4th

> > > > in buying a house) can be taken into consideration with

giving

> > > > preference to the cusp sub-lord, which is also a primary

> > > > significator of the required houses (4, 11, 1 in buying a

house).

> > > >

> > > > Shri Raichur's Explanation

> > > >

> > > > Another practical way is to choose the Antara, of which lord

> > > > signifies the required houses in the `more important or

stronger'

> > > > steps 3 and 4.

> > > >

> > > > The question of considering Slow Moving Planets and Fast

Moving

> > > > Planets, crops up only when considering the Transits in the

> > ANTARA

> > > > Period. Here one checks the transits of the DBA planets,

within

> > the

> > > > period of the Antara. (Ra-VenRa).

> > > >

> > > > For Rahu check the sub only, should be favourable. Ven fast

> > moving,

> > > > the Star Lord must be favourable. Using this criteria, plus

> > common

> > > > sense, we can arrive at a smaller period for the Event.

> > > >

> > > > Another rule is that the planet being favourable or not, is

> > > > determined from the 1st and 2nd steps only.

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>, " sunil

> > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear tw,

> > > > > each and every thing can not be included in one single

book.i

> > have

> > > > written

> > > > > articles in marathi

> > > > > regarding this sookshma period.the main intension of book

is to

> > > > know the

> > > > > theory first.

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/8/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Dr Sheetal ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is not editing your mail, REPEAT-- for Four Step

Lovers, -

> > --

> > > > to help

> > > > > > study how DBAS is applied to > > get the chain of foreign

> > going

> > > > complete ,

> > > > > > *esp. application of Sookshma

> > > > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > > > *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>,

> > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Twji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for editing my mail

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 8:29 AM, tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Four Step Lovers,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Given below are 4 step significators to help study

how

> > DBAS

> > > > is applied

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > get the chain of foreign going complete , esp.

> > application

> > > > of Sooksha

> > > > > > > > which is not available in the Four Step book.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>,

> > > > Sheetal ratnamalag@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sujatkaram's 2nd querry correctly by Dr

> > Sheetal

> > > > > > > > > ratnamalag@

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 9/22/07, sujatkaram sujatkaram@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > > > > > I am trying to put-back on track the discussion

which

> > has

> > > > deviated

> > > > > > > > > from its original path of knowledge.

> > > > > > > > > I wish to test my knowledge of four-step method

and so

> > I am

> > > > > > > > > furnishing the following case for analysis.

> > > > > > > > > The female child is born on 29th June 2007 at

> > Ratnagiri,

> > > > > > Maharashtra,

> > > > > > > > > at 20.35 hrs. The father is employed abroad. The

> > parents

> > > > have

> > > > > > planned

> > > > > > > > > to take their daughter abroad in coming November

2007.

> > I

> > > > have tried

> > > > > > > > > to read the chart and dont see chances of her going

> > abroad

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > November this year. Please tell me if I am right or

> > wrong.

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > sujatkaram--- In

<%40>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > " Punit Pandey "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > #14899 Sheetal ratnamalag@

> > > > > > > > > Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:48 pm

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My analysis of baby's chart by kp 4step theory

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Strong planets=SUN,MOON,MARS,GURU,SHANI,RAHU.

> > > > > > > > > SHANI & SHUKRA= IN RAPT CONJUNTION ( 1.13 degree)

> > > > > > > > > SUN & BUDH =IN RAPT CONJUNCTION (1.18 degree)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1st sub Shani signifies strongly 1 and 9

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 29th June 2007 at Ratnagiri, Maharashtra, at 20.35

hrs,

> > Asc

> > > > Cp

> > > > > > 04:23:31

> > > > > > > > (KPAstro 3.0)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-

10])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-

10])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 12th Sub=Guru,Guru also is 9th sub.It signifies

9,12

> > and 7

> > > > houses

> > > > > > > > strongly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-

10])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Child will go to foreign. 7th house shows break

> > journey.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > WHEN:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Wants to go in Nov 07

> > > > > > > > > Dashas running in Nov 07 are=Ketu Maha: Surya

Bhukti:

> > and

> > > > Vidashas

> > > > > > > > > are= Chandra,Mangal and Rahu, and Guru in Dec1st

half.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Maha Ketu=7,9.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Ke:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Ve: 7; 5-10; Cnj Sa(7, 1)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Mo+: 11

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]);

Stl Ve

> > (7,

> > > > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > > > 1])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhukti Surya =9,7.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Su+: 6; Cnj Me(6, 9)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-

10])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sublord of Su is Me:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-

10])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We need Vidasha signfying 3 and 12 hosues strongly.

> > > > > > > > > Vidashas in Nov/Dec=Moon,Mars, Rahu,Guru.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Moon=7,9

> > > > > > > > > Mars=3,7,9

> > > > > > > > > Rahu=7,9

> > > > > > > > > Guru=7,9,12

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars and Guru are strong So we will take

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Ma+: 3; 4; Asp 11

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ke: 8; Sgl Su(6, Cnj Me[6, 9]);

Stl Ve

> > (7,

> > > > 5-10, Cnj

> > > > > > Sa[7,

> > > > > > > > 1])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 7; 1; Cnj Ve(7, 5-10)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Planet Ju+: 11; 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Me: 6; 9; Cnj Su(6)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Me:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Starlord of Me is Ra*: 2; Sgl Sa(7, 1, Cnj Ve[7, 5-

10])

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars Vidasha and Guru sukshma.( First half of

Nov07)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma DBA (Nov 6-14, 2007)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ma-Ju DBAs (Nov 8-9, 2007)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Guru Vidasha and Mars Sukhsma ( First half of Dec

07)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju DBA (Dec 3-20, 2007)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke-Su-Ju-Ma DBAS (Dec 16-17, 2007)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > to complete the chain chain of maximum foreign

going

> > > > houses= 3,9,12,

> > > > > > 7

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Transit of all dasha swamis and SUN also matched

in 1st

> > > > half of Nov

> > > > > > 07

> > > > > > > > > as well as in 1st half of Dec 07.So I selected

both the

> > > > periods for

> > > > > > > > > foreign going of the child.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Child will go with her mother

> > > > > > > > > For mother:(from 4th house) 12th sub Rahu signifies

> > 3rd so

> > > > mother

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > go to foreign

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If chart is rotated, same dasha periods are

signifying

> > > > mother's

> > > > > > foreign

> > > > > > > > houses

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dr Sheetal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > msg#14905

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Dr. Sheetal,

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your near-accurate analysis and

> > congrats.You

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > > widened the scope of your prediction and rightly

> > included

> > > > December

> > > > > > > > > 07 as possible period for foreign travel.The

father is

> > > > realising

> > > > > > > > > difficulties in getting his leave sanctioned and so

> > some

> > > > delay is

> > > > > > > > > possible.

> > > > > > > > > with regards,

> > > > > > > > > sujatkaram. --- In

> > <%40>

> > <%40>,

> > > > Sheetal

> > > > > > > > > ratnamalag@ wrote:

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