Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Respected members, Sirs, One of my close relatives was hospitalised on Sunday the 30th December.He is still in hospital and likely to remain there for the next week or more. His wife gave me KP no. 22 after asking me whether he will be cured and when he will be cured fully.[This is his 3rd hospitalisation.] I examined this querry on 9th January at 10:23:42 hrs. at Dadar.The chart was rotated so as to make the 7th house the Lagna.I faced the following problems:- 1] It is impossible to think that any wife will not be earnest in asking such a question.Yet the position of the moon does not reflect the question as far as I can see. To see this I did not rotate the chart because she is the questioner and I am going to ascertain her mind. Here the moon is in the 10th house. 2]Moon is the sub. of the 6th cusp. Jataka is running Ravi mahadasha, Guru antardasha and Rahu vidasha.To my surprise none of these planets is a significator of the 12th cusp [by four-step method].How can this happen when the patient is in hospital at the time of asking the question? 3] Here will saturn become the strong significator of the 4th cusp as Rahu represents it? I request the learned members to throw some light on nthe above points and oblige.Also let me know what you think about the prospectus for the patient. Regards, sujatkaram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dear Sujatkaram, When I erected the chart as per the details given by you (as per Astroloka) Iam getting ASC Mesha at 29.13.20 and Moon posited at 02.46.47 of Makara. Moon is in the sub of Jupiter who is the 12th lord and also the bhukthi lord. On rotation 7th falls at Tula, from Tula Moon is posited in 3rd house conjoined with Mercury who is 12th Lord, Hence the Genuinity of the question cannot be doubted. R.Balaji On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 sujatkaram wrote : >Respected members, >Sirs, >One of my close relatives was hospitalised on Sunday the 30th >December.He is still in hospital and likely to remain there for the >next week or more. His wife gave me KP no. 22 after asking me whether >he will be cured and when he will be cured fully.[This is his 3rd >hospitalisation.] I examined this querry on 9th January at 10:23:42 >hrs. at Dadar.The chart was rotated so as to make the 7th house the >Lagna.I faced the following problems:- >1] It is impossible to think that any wife will not be earnest in >asking such a question.Yet the position of the moon does not reflect >the question as far as I can see. To see this I did not rotate the >chart because she is the questioner and I am going to ascertain her >mind. Here the moon is in the 10th house. >2]Moon is the sub. of the 6th cusp. Jataka is running Ravi mahadasha, >Guru antardasha and Rahu vidasha.To my surprise none of these planets >is a significator of the 12th cusp [by four-step method].How can this >happen when the patient is in hospital at the time of asking the >question? >3] Here will saturn become the strong significator of the 4th cusp as >Rahu represents it? >I request the learned members to throw some light on nthe above >points and oblige.Also let me know what you think about the >prospectus for the patient. >Regards, >sujatkaram > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Respected sujat karam I also posted one massage regarding to clearify the meaning of " To ascertain moon position in horary " but unfortunately I could not get any response from here like other massages of mine which needs some discussions .I donot think myself as learned member but due to my apprehensiveness that probably you also would not get response from here,I could not stop myself to write - 1-As you told planatory position I did not get the same I used NKPA for that day as 23deg52min44sec and lat 18 degree 58 min north and 72 degree 49 min east as logitude(for your place of judgement),Plz confirm is it same which are used by you??The major diffrences in mine and your are, moon is not deposited in 10th it is in 9th and moon is not 6th sublord it is sun, 2- As chart drawn by me(with help of astro 3) I find moon in the star of sun and in the sub of jup,sun is the lord of 5th where as jup is the lord of 12th and aspecting 1 & 5th house and saturn which is lord of 11th. Also see moon is conj with mercury (lord of 6th) whereas mars(lord of 1)aspect moon too. I dont think there can be anything more to show the relationship of moon with houses 1-6-12 and 1-5-11(for cure) 3-As for as your question is concerned regarding the current dasa do not signify 12th ,I think You should see once again the nature of your question which is related to the mainly cure from disease sun the dasa period is the lord of 5th, jupitar the bhukti period is the lord of 12 aspecting 1 and 5th house whereas rahu (agent of saturn)will represent saturn(lord of 11 and aspecting 11 house also) I think you can now see better connection of running dasa with sifnificator of 1-5-11 and 12 4-Yes since no planet in the saturn star and saturn is the occupant of 4th it will be strong sifnificator of 4th,but I PERSONALLY THINK ketu will repalce saturn for 4th house significance instead of rahu due to following reasons 1- ketu is conj with saturn in 4th also and ketu is in own star. I tried to clear your doubts which were related to the basic rules and for answering your big question as you wrote''let me know what you think about the prospectus for the patient " I left this part for seniors which will certainly give you prediction for that, With Regards AMIT , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram wrote: > > Respected members, > Sirs, > One of my close relatives was hospitalised on Sunday the 30th > December.He is still in hospital and likely to remain there for the > next week or more. His wife gave me KP no. 22 after asking me whether > he will be cured and when he will be cured fully.[This is his 3rd > hospitalisation.] I examined this querry on 9th January at 10:23:42 > hrs. at Dadar.The chart was rotated so as to make the 7th house the > Lagna.I faced the following problems:- > 1] It is impossible to think that any wife will not be earnest in > asking such a question.Yet the position of the moon does not reflect > the question as far as I can see. To see this I did not rotate the > chart because she is the questioner and I am going to ascertain her > mind. Here the moon is in the 10th house. > 2]Moon is the sub. of the 6th cusp. Jataka is running Ravi mahadasha, > Guru antardasha and Rahu vidasha.To my surprise none of these planets > is a significator of the 12th cusp [by four-step method].How can this > happen when the patient is in hospital at the time of asking the > question? > 3] Here will saturn become the strong significator of the 4th cusp as > Rahu represents it? > I request the learned members to throw some light on nthe above > points and oblige.Also let me know what you think about the > prospectus for the patient. > Regards, > sujatkaram > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dear Ms Sujatkaram, For recovery from illness, we see significations of 1,5,11 houses.The planets are Sun, Sat, Venus Moon and Merc.Recovery is promised due 6th sub Moon signifying 11th house, With Sun Dasa in progress and Sat Bhukti due in Feb 20approx,recovery will take place. Our best wishes for speedy recovery of the patient. Regards, Satish , " ramanathan balaji " <vaideeswar wrote: > > > Dear Sujatkaram, > > When I erected the chart as per the details given by you (as per Astroloka) Iam getting ASC Mesha at 29.13.20 and Moon posited at 02.46.47 of Makara. Moon is in the sub of Jupiter who is the 12th lord and also the bhukthi lord. On rotation 7th falls at Tula, from Tula Moon is posited in 3rd house conjoined with Mercury who is 12th Lord, Hence the Genuinity of the question cannot be doubted. > > R.Balaji > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 sujatkaram wrote : > >Respected members, > >Sirs, > >One of my close relatives was hospitalised on Sunday the 30th > >December.He is still in hospital and likely to remain there for the > >next week or more. His wife gave me KP no. 22 after asking me whether > >he will be cured and when he will be cured fully.[This is his 3rd > >hospitalisation.] I examined this querry on 9th January at 10:23:42 > >hrs. at Dadar.The chart was rotated so as to make the 7th house the > >Lagna.I faced the following problems:- > >1] It is impossible to think that any wife will not be earnest in > >asking such a question.Yet the position of the moon does not reflect > >the question as far as I can see. To see this I did not rotate the > >chart because she is the questioner and I am going to ascertain her > >mind. Here the moon is in the 10th house. > >2]Moon is the sub. of the 6th cusp. Jataka is running Ravi mahadasha, > >Guru antardasha and Rahu vidasha.To my surprise none of these planets > >is a significator of the 12th cusp [by four-step method].How can this > >happen when the patient is in hospital at the time of asking the > >question? > >3] Here will saturn become the strong significator of the 4th cusp as > >Rahu represents it? > >I request the learned members to throw some light on nthe above > >points and oblige.Also let me know what you think about the > >prospectus for the patient. > >Regards, > >sujatkaram > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 dear sujatkaramWhy are you considering 12th Cusp? It is to get into a hospitalTo get well and come out, please check cusp 11sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members, Sirs, One of my close relatives was hospitalised on Sunday the 30th December.He is still in hospital and likely to remain there for the next week or more. His wife gave me KP no. 22 after asking me whether he will be cured and when he will be cured fully.[This is his 3rd hospitalisation.] I examined this querry on 9th January at 10:23:42 hrs. at Dadar.The chart was rotated so as to make the 7th house the Lagna.I faced the following problems:- 1] It is impossible to think that any wife will not be earnest in asking such a question.Yet the position of the moon does not reflect the question as far as I can see. To see this I did not rotate the chart because she is the questioner and I am going to ascertain her mind. Here the moon is in the 10th house. 2]Moon is the sub. of the 6th cusp. Jataka is running Ravi mahadasha, Guru antardasha and Rahu vidasha.To my surprise none of these planets is a significator of the 12th cusp [by four-step method].How can this happen when the patient is in hospital at the time of asking the question? 3] Here will saturn become the strong significator of the 4th cusp as Rahu represents it? I request the learned members to throw some light on nthe above points and oblige.Also let me know what you think about the prospectus for the patient. Regards, sujatkaram raichur anant mumbai Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dear Sujatkaram I appologise to intervene the ongoing discussion with my limited knowledge of KP. According to me the moon in the horary chart erected by you, signifies 8 (worries) and 12 (husband's 6th house..i.e. illness) on third step and 5 (husband's 11th house...i.e. cure) and 11th (fulfilment of wish of jataka i.e.wife)on 4th step. So it clearly reflects the mind of the lady. Here since Ketu is appearing as star lord on 4th step and it is in its own star, sub lord of ketu which is Rahu is taken as star lord and hence the signification of 11th house. 2. As per my software the CSL of 6th cusp is sun. 3. Jataka is running Sun/Jup/Rah DBA. You are right, none of these planets signify house 12. This is because the lady is not admitted to hospital. However Jup signifies 6th house(in original chart) which is 12th to husband (rotated chart) and he is in hospital. All these three planets signify 11th house (in original chart) which represents fulfilment of lady's desire and reunion with husband alongwith house 2. Further the same house in rotated chart will be 5th indicating cure for husband. Secondly Jup and Rah are the significator of 4th house (in rotated chart) suggesting husband's arrival at home after cure. 4. In this case Rah is an agent of Saturn by virtue of being deposited in saturn sign and because Rahu does not own any sign. But the converse is not true. Therefore saturn cannot become the significator of 4th house( i.e. 10th in original chart) occupied by Rahu. Secondly though saturn owns this house it is tenented by Rahu and thus saturn's signification becomes weak as per 4 step theory. With regards Subhash Ektare -- In , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > dear sujatkaram > Why are you considering 12th Cusp? It is to get into a hospital > To get well and come out, please check cusp 11 > > > sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members, > Sirs, > One of my close relatives was hospitalised on Sunday the 30th > December.He is still in hospital and likely to remain there for the > next week or more. His wife gave me KP no. 22 after asking me whether > he will be cured and when he will be cured fully.[This is his 3rd > hospitalisation.] I examined this querry on 9th January at 10:23:42 > hrs. at Dadar.The chart was rotated so as to make the 7th house the > Lagna.I faced the following problems:- > 1] It is impossible to think that any wife will not be earnest in > asking such a question.Yet the position of the moon does not reflect > the question as far as I can see. To see this I did not rotate the > chart because she is the questioner and I am going to ascertain her > mind. Here the moon is in the 10th house. > 2]Moon is the sub. of the 6th cusp. Jataka is running Ravi mahadasha, > Guru antardasha and Rahu vidasha.To my surprise none of these planets > is a significator of the 12th cusp [by four-step method].How can this > happen when the patient is in hospital at the time of asking the > question? > 3] Here will saturn become the strong significator of the 4th cusp as > Rahu represents it? > I request the learned members to throw some light on nthe above > points and oblige.Also let me know what you think about the > prospectus for the patient. > Regards, > sujatkaram raichur anant mumbai > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 sujatkaramJI pranam,in this case moon in sun star, jup sub.sun : l/o 11 in 3 in the star of ven l/o 1 in 1.jup : l/o 3 in 2 in ket star in 10.ket with sat l/o 5 in 10.moon : star lord for 4,12.and sub lord for 6,11.moon :aspected by mars l/o 2,7 in 8.moon : conjoined with mercury l/o 9,12 in 3sickness & hospitalisation: 6,8, 3 & 12cure & discharge : 1,5,11; 2,4 & 11moon is connected with all these houses. hence justified.if we look into asc position it will also reveal the urge.in this case asc in sun star rah subsun : l/o 11 in 3 in ven star l/o 1 in 2.(ven is only planet in mer star)rah : in 4 in mars star (l/o 2,7 in 8). and moon sub moon in 3 in star of sun .rahu stars unoccupied.rah denote sat l/0 5 in 10.the above connections reveal not only her urge for husbands hospitalisation and also his cure and discharge (more strongly).learned members should correct me if am wrong. with rgds.......... sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members, Sirs, One of my close relatives was hospitalised on Sunday the 30th December.He is still in hospital and likely to remain there for the next week or more. His wife gave me KP no. 22 after asking me whether he will be cured and when he will be cured fully.[This is his 3rd hospitalisation.] I examined this querry on 9th January at 10:23:42 hrs. at Dadar.The chart was rotated so as to make the 7th house the Lagna.I faced the following problems:- 1] It is impossible to think that any wife will not be earnest in asking such a question.Yet the position of the moon does not reflect the question as far as I can see. To see this I did not rotate the chart because she is the questioner and I am going to ascertain her mind. Here the moon is in the 10th house. 2]Moon is the sub. of the 6th cusp. Jataka is running Ravi mahadasha, Guru antardasha and Rahu vidasha.To my surprise none of these planets is a significator of the 12th cusp [by four-step method].How can this happen when the patient is in hospital at the time of asking the question? 3] Here will saturn become the strong significator of the 4th cusp as Rahu represents it? I request the learned members to throw some light on nthe above points and oblige.Also let me know what you think about the prospectus for the patient. Regards, sujatkaram Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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