Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Dear Friends, That is what Guruji KSK's teaching. 1) karaka planet singnifiying relavant bhava is stronger than others to offer the result.ven connection to 4 & 11/12 can give vehicle also mars connectin with 4 & 11/12 can give own house.these two are to be supported by 4th csl. Regards, tw , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > SUPRAKASHJI, > > mars connection with 4th results in dwelling house.(ref. reader3 p.no. 235,236) > > venus connection with 4th results conveyance.(ref reader 3 p.no. 259). > > 4,11,12 significators will bring forth these results 6,9 houses for taking possession (of both). > > these rules are to be tested > > 1) 04-07-1983@12:47:40 guntur A.P. > this is mine. 4th csl ket in ketu star & sub .signifing 2,3,4 strongly > not connectd with venus. i had not any vehicle till now and also not > expecting any in future. because i am a disabled person. > But i am dwelling in the house given by my grandpa to my father. > and i will have it in future. ket aspected by mars(8thlord),mer (10thlord). > > 2)22-05-1951@13:15:00. 16.14N,80.27E > this is my father.4th csl mar l/o 4,9 in 9 in ven sign sun star ket sub > ketu in ven star.4th csl is connectd with both mars,ven. > he had been using a bicycle from 1986 (ven/ket) till today (same one) > he owned the house during aug1992 (sun/ven) with expiry of my grandpa. > > 3)12-01-1977@22:32:30 secunderabad > 4th csl sun in jup,sun.mars.mars in ven star.but this guy not even know > how to drive a biscycle.we have to see whether he can own a car in future,. > he is seraching for land. > > 4) 01-05-1978@05:20, 16.14N,80.27E > 4th csl mars l/o 1,8 in 4 in moon sign sat star rahu sub. > not connected with ven . no vehicle for her till now. > chance to have a right in her husbands property. > > 5) 22-04-1979@01:40 ,secunderabad > > 4th csl jup in moon sign sat star mer sub.(mer is with moon,mars) > he used others vehicles till now.and planning to have it in future. > he bought a house on 06-01-2008 (ven/mars/sat/ven) > > much more data is to be scrutinised and learned members should also > share thier views. > > conclusion: > > 1) karaka planet singnifiying relavant bhava is stronger than others to offer the > result.ven connection to 4 & 11/12 can give vehicle also mars connectin with > 4 & 11/12 can give own house.these two are to be supported by 4th csl. > > 2) horary is to be used to confirm this. > > i may or may not be correct learned mambers should enlighten this, > > with regards.................. Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't necessarily > have own car? > > Regards > > Suprakash > > > On > Behalf Of Sheetal > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > Dear Sir > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as > rightly said by tw, > that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator for > the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens only > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here karak > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the incidence > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and Shukra > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the connetion > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp. > > Regards > Sheetal > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > i > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical,edition-1981 whrein KSK has > > written > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate house,4th > house and r > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th house > and > > Mercury indicates education. " > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva > > > of planets. " > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of karaka > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not > > > considered. > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy discussion. > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe in > > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > Sir, > > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of planets.To > > > > what > > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars > > > > represents > > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth. > > > > > regards, > > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Dear Friends, That is KP. Regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Members, > In my humble opinion,a karaka is not considered as a significator,simply by virtue of it's being a karaka... for the timing of events,unless it is a significator of the event under consideration,when it assumes more importance...especially if it is the D/B/A lord, to give the result... > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag > > Saturday, 26 January, 2008 12:25:49 AM > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > I also feel, karkatva has role in specifying the nature of event or > charecteristic featuresof person etc. eg Guru for expansion, shani for > constriction, Budh for duality and so on. In kp we never use karakatva > to decide whether and when the incidence will happen or not, but we > may say that karkatva can tell us HOW the incidence will happen. > > Sheetal > > On Jan 25, 2008 3:59 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In KP, most of the time we are predicting yes or not (e.g. marriage possible > > or not) or timing. Karakatva of planets is not very much important there. > > But whenever we have to predict the nature of event, it is not possible > > without karakatva of planets. I believe 'application of Karakatava' is > > certainly one area in KP where more research is required. Once more research > > is done of the usage of karakatva in predicting events, we will be able to > > predict some very amazing things that we see in traditional astrology > > especially nadi astrology. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2008 3:52 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear satish, > > > you are right.forum should focus on this subject. > > > sujatkaram has rightly said that whether we use karkattva in every case. > > > the answer is offcourse no. > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/25/08, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > I am happy now there are some free thinkers on the > > > > subject of Karakatatwa of planets. > > > > > > > > I recall, when I raised this very subjects few years ago, > > > > it raised the ambient temperature of the group.The purists decried > > > > this very sugestion,suggestin g, Vedic and KP are mutually exclusive. > > > > > > > > I hope with passage of time,with newer members, there is > > > > an attempt to change the mindset. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " sunil gondhalekar " > > > > <sunilalaka@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, edition-1981 whrein KSK > > > > has > > > > > written > > > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate house,4th > > > > house and > > > > > > > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th > > > > house and > > > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does not believe in > > > > Kaarakattva > > > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator > > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of karaka > > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not > > > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% > > > > 40. com>, " tw853 " > > > > > > <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe in > > > > > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of > > > > planets.To > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars > > > > > > > represents > > > > > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. 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Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Dear Friends, That is not KP. How can we take Jupiter for child birth without its signification of 2,5,11! Regards, tw , " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear members, > let me share one example. > one querent asked me that whether his contract will be extended and put > one number.i calculated it and found that dasa is not connected with 3or 7 > or 11 > so answer was negative but dasa was of jupiter-karaka for expansion so i > told him > your contract will get extended and actually the contract was extened. > this experience is of about 10 years back,right now i dont have details to > furnish. > the karakattva theroy was used by our hasbe guruji. > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On 1/25/08, Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > > > > Dear Sir > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as > > rightly said by tw, > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator for > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens only > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here karak > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the incidence > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and Shukra > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the connetion > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp. > > > > Regards > > Sheetal > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka<sunilalaka%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical,edition-1981 whrein KSK has > > > written > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate house,4th house > > and r > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th house > > and > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853 <tw853%40>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of karaka > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy discussion. > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe in > > > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40> , > > " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of planets.To > > > > > what > > > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars > > > > > represents > > > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Dear Sehgal ji, For learning purpose, could you kindly clarify where you've found " Saturn as karaka for property " because Saturn is usually taken as karaka for land and mining. Karka for property are sat. & mars. Thanks and regards, tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Dear Lajmi Sir, Thank you very much for giving me the information. Sincerely, Sai--- On Tue, 29/1/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Date: Tuesday, 29 January, 2008, 7:52 PM Dear Saikrishna, In K.P., always look at the sub-lord,its position and signification. ..as the sub-lord alone will decide...for land/bldgs it should signify IV,XI & XII,and have a connection with Mars... For a vehicle the s/l of IV should be Venus, and strongly connected with a moveable sign...else, it will mean furniture... ! Wirh best wishes, L.Y.Rao. neo spiritualist <neospiritualist@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 29 January, 2008 5:10:47 PMRe: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Dear Sir, If the 4 CSL is deposited Dual sign will it signify both house/plot and vehicles? Kindly tell me how to interpret when 4 CSL is deposited in Dviswabhav rashi? Thank you very much. Regards, Sai--- On Tue, 29/1/08, Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab > wrote: Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab > Re: Kaarakattva of planets.@gro ups.comTuesday, 29 January, 2008, 2:57 PM In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL should be deopsited in a sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL should be in char rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader.RegardsRajeev K Khattar@gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:>> Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't necessarily> have own car?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On> Behalf Of Sheetal> Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets.> > Dear Sir> > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as> rightly said by tw,> that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator for> the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of> Karaktva in kp and where to apply it?> > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens only> when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here karak> planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the incidence> in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and Shukra> planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the connetion> of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my> doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp.> > Regards> Sheetal> > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@ ...> wrote:> > i> >> >> >> > dear sujatkaram,> > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, edition-1981 whrein KSK has> > written> > "planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate house,4th> house and r> > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th house> and> > Mercury indicates education."> > this quote is sufficient for karakattva> > -sunil gondhalekar> >> >> >> > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > It is wrong that "It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva> > > of planets."> > >> > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator> > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of karaka> > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not> > > considered.> > >> > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy discussion.> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear SK ji,> > > >> > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe in> > > > Kaarakattva of planets.> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com , "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@ >> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected members,> > > > > Sir,> > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of planets.To> > > > what> > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars> > > > represents> > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth.> > > > > regards,> > > > > sk> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Dear Suprakash ji, It's absolutely correct: Similarly, Kaarakattva of planets and rasis is essential for > identification of diseases. Regards, tw , " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > Pavanji > > Thanks for this excellent note in support of Kaarakattva of > planets in framework of KP.I hope more such examples from other members > will help us reach a sound conclusion. > > Similarly, Kaarakattva of planets and rasis is essential for > identification of diseases. > > Regards > > Suprakash > > > On > Behalf Of vgr pavan > Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:01 PM > > RE: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > SUPRAKASHJI, > > mars connection with 4th results in dwelling house.(ref. reader3 p.no. > 235,236) > > venus connection with 4th results conveyance.(ref reader 3 p.no. 259). > > 4,11,12 significators will bring forth these results 6,9 houses for > taking possession (of both). > > these rules are to be tested > > 1) 04-07-1983@12:47:40 guntur A.P. > this is mine. 4th csl ket in ketu star & sub .signifing 2,3,4 > strongly > not connectd with venus. i had not any vehicle till now and also not > expecting any in future. because i am a disabled person. > But i am dwelling in the house given by my grandpa to my father. > and i will have it in future. ket aspected by > mars(8thlord),mer(10thlord). > > 2)22-05-1951@13:15:00. 16.14N,80.27E > this is my father.4th csl mar l/o 4,9 in 9 in ven sign sun star ket > sub > ketu in ven star.4th csl is connectd with both mars,ven. > he had been using a bicycle from 1986 (ven/ket) till today (same one) > he owned the house during aug1992 (sun/ven) with expiry of my grandpa. > > 3)12-01-1977@22:32:30 secunderabad > 4th csl sun in jup,sun.mars.mars in ven star.but this guy not even > know > how to drive a biscycle.we have to see whether he can own a car in > future,. > he is seraching for land. > > 4) 01-05-1978@05:20, 16.14N,80.27E > 4th csl mars l/o 1,8 in 4 in moon sign sat star rahu sub. > not connected with ven . no vehicle for her till now. > chance to have a right in her husbands property. > > 5) 22-04-1979@01:40 ,secunderabad > > 4th csl jup in moon sign sat star mer sub.(mer is with moon,mars) > he used others vehicles till now.and planning to have it in future. > he bought a house on 06-01-2008 (ven/mars/sat/ven) > > much more data is to be scrutinised and learned members should also > share thier views. > > conclusion: > > 1) karaka planet singnifiying relavant bhava is stronger than others to > offer the > result.ven connection to 4 & 11/12 can give vehicle also mars > connectin with > 4 & 11/12 can give own house.these two are to be supported by 4th csl. > > 2) horary is to be used to confirm this. > > i may or may not be correct learned mambers should enlighten this, > > with regards.................. Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't necessarily > have own car? > > Regards > > Suprakash > > > @gro <%40> ups.com > [@gro <%40> > ups.com] On > Behalf Of Sheetal > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > @gro <%40> ups.com > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > Dear Sir > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as > rightly said by tw, > that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator for > the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens only > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here karak > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the incidence > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and Shukra > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the connetion > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp. > > Regards > Sheetal > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) > <sunilalaka%40gmail.com> com> wrote: > > i > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical,edition-1981 whrein KSK has > > written > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate house,4th > house and r > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th house > and > > Mercury indicates education. " > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853 (AT) (DOT) <tw853%40> com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva > > > of planets. " > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of karaka > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not > > > considered. > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy discussion. > > > > > > @gro <% 40> > ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe in > > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro <% 40> > ups.com , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > Sir, > > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of planets.To > > > > what > > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars > > > > represents > > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth. > > > > > regards, > > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Dear Friends, There is a school of thought which says Mars refers to land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments. Regards, Satish , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Suprakash, > For property,the s/l of IV,should signify IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with Mars...For a vehicle the s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have a connection with Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as per Krishnamurthi Padhdhati... > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM > Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL should be deopsited in a > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL should be in char > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader. > Regards > Rajeev K Khattar > > @gro ups.com, " Suprakash Ghosh " > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't > necessarily > > have own car? > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > @gro ups.com > [@gro ups.com] On > > Behalf Of Sheetal > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > Dear Sir > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as > > rightly said by tw, > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator > for > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens > only > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here > karak > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the > incidence > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and Shukra > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the > connetion > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp. > > > > Regards > > Sheetal > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@ ...> wrote: > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, edition-1981 whrein > KSK has > > > written > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate > house,4th > > house and r > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th > house > > and > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does not believe in > Kaarakattva > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright > significator > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of > karaka > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy > discussion. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe > in > > > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com , " sujatkaram " > <sujatkaram@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of > planets.To > > > > > what > > > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars > > > > > represents > > > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I aso fully agree with Mr lajmiji views. Thanks for your correct analysis as per KP. with regards, Mr Ghosh. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:01:08 PMRe: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Dear Suprakash, For property,the s/l of IV,should signify IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with Mars...For a vehicle the s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have a connection with Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as per Krishnamurthi Padhdhati... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab >@gro ups.comTuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM Re: Kaarakattva of planets. In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL should be deopsited in a sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL should be in char rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader.RegardsRajeev K Khattar@gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:>> Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't necessarily> have own car?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On> Behalf Of Sheetal> Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets.> > Dear Sir> > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as> rightly said by tw,> that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator for> the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of> Karaktva in kp and where to apply it?> > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens only> when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here karak> planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the incidence> in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and Shukra> planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the connetion> of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my> doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp.> > Regards> Sheetal> > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@ ...> wrote:> > i> >> >> >> > dear sujatkaram,> > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, edition-1981 whrein KSK has> > written> > "planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate house,4th> house and r> > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th house> and> > Mercury indicates education."> > this quote is sufficient for karakattva> > -sunil gondhalekar> >> >> >> > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > It is wrong that "It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva> > > of planets."> > >> > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator> > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of karaka> > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not> > > considered.> > >> > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy discussion.> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear SK ji,> > > >> > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe in> > > > Kaarakattva of planets.> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com , "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@ >> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected members,> > > > > Sir,> > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of planets.To> > > > what> > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars> > > > represents> > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth.> > > > > regards,> > > > > sk> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Dear tw In the broader sense land is an immovable property & sat is karka for land althogh normally only mars is considered as karka for property. Regards A K SEHGAL --- On Wed, 30/1/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Date: Wednesday, 30 January, 2008, 6:57 PM Dear Sehgal ji,For learning purpose, could you kindly clarify where you've found "Saturn as karaka for property" because Saturn is usually taken as karaka for land and mining. Karka for property are sat. & mars.Thanks and regards,tw Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 vijayaji,you have to give more details.i.e dob, etcwe cant comment without knowing other significations of ket, satwith regards........Vijayalakshmi Seshaprasad <anagha_viji16 wrote: Hello Pavan ji,Your view on 4th house and the planets was good. I have a question wht if 4rth house is connected with saturn and ketu. (especially when they are in leo and leo being 4th house)in ketu's star.regardsVijivgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:30:55 PMRE: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. SUPRAKASHJI,mars connection with 4th results in dwelling house.(ref. reader3 p.no. 235,236)venus connection with 4th results conveyance.( ref reader 3 p.no. 259).4,11,12 significators will bring forth these results 6,9 houses for taking possession (of both).these rules are to be tested 1) 04-07-1983@12: 47:40 guntur A.P. this is mine. 4th csl ket in ketu star & sub .signifing 2,3,4 strongly not connectd with venus. i had not any vehicle till now and also not expecting any in future. because i am a disabled person. But i am dwelling in the house given by my grandpa to my father. and i will have it in future. ket aspected by mars(8thlord) ,mer(10thlord) .2)22-05-1951@ 13:15:00. 16.14N,80.27E this is my father.4th csl mar l/o 4,9 in 9 in ven sign sun star ket sub ketu in ven star.4th csl is connectd with both mars,ven. he had been using a bicycle from 1986 (ven/ket) till today (same one) he owned the house during aug1992 (sun/ven) with expiry of my grandpa.3)12-01-1977@ 22:32:30 secunderabad 4th csl sun in jup,sun.mars. mars in ven star.but this guy not even know how to drive a biscycle.we have to see whether he can own a car in future,. he is seraching for land.4) 01-05-1978@05: 20, 16.14N,80.27E4th csl mars l/o 1,8 in 4 in moon sign sat star rahu sub.not connected with ven . no vehicle for her till now.chance to have a right in her husbands property.5) 22-04-1979@01: 40 ,secunderabad4th csl jup in moon sign sat star mer sub.(mer is with moon,mars)he used others vehicles till now.and planning to have it in future.he bought a house on 06-01-2008 (ven/mars/sat/ ven)much more data is to be scrutinised and learned members should also share thier views.conclusion: 1) karaka planet singnifiying relavant bhava is stronger than others to offer the result.ven connection to 4 & 11/12 can give vehicle also mars connectin with 4 & 11/12 can give own house.these two are to be supported by 4th csl.2) horary is to be used to confirm this.i may or may not be correct learned mambers should enlighten this,with regards..... ......... .... Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote: Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't necessarily have own car? Regards Suprakash @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Sheetal Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Dear Sir Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as rightly said by tw, that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator for the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens only when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here karak planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the incidence in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and Shukra planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the connetion of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp. Regards Sheetal On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > i > > > > dear sujatkaram, > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, edition-1981 whrein KSK has > written > "planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate house,4th house and r > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th house and > Mercury indicates education." > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that "It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva > > of planets." > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright significator > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of karaka > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not > > considered. > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy discussion. > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote: > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not believe in > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com , "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > Sir, > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of planets.To > > > what > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, mars > > > represents > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth. > > > > regards, > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Dear Satish ji, Shri Kuppu Ganpathi has taken " IV+ Mars= Lands, IV+Venus= Vechicles " in his article: " Matters Controlled by Bhava " in KP E-Zine. Could you kindly provide the authority for " Venus refers to Flats/apartments " . Thanks and regards, tw , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > There is a school of thought which says Mars refers to > land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Suprakash, > > For property,the s/l of IV,should signify > IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with Mars...For a vehicle the > s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have a connection with > Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as per Krishnamurthi > Padhdhati... > > With best wishes, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@> > > > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM > > Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL should be deopsited in > a > > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL should be in char > > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader. > > Regards > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > @gro ups.com, " Suprakash Ghosh " > > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't > > necessarily > > > have own car? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > [@gro ups.com] On > > > Behalf Of Sheetal > > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as > > > rightly said by tw, > > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright > significator > > for > > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of > > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage happens > > only > > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. Here > > karak > > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the > > incidence > > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and > Shukra > > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the > > connetion > > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz clear my > > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@ ...> > wrote: > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, edition-1981 whrein > > KSK has > > > > written > > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate > > house,4th > > > house and r > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern mother,4th > > house > > > and > > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does not believe in > > Kaarakattva > > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright > > significator > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of > > karaka > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are not > > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy > > discussion. > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not > believe > > in > > > > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com , " sujatkaram " > > <sujatkaram@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of > > planets.To > > > > > > what > > > > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, > mars > > > > > > represents > > > > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so forth. > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Dear SEHGAL, Request is what is the authority or source for " Saturn as karaka for property. " Thanks and regards, tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Dear TinWinji Venus's signification to flats/apartments could probably be on account of matters related to comforts and enjoyment attached to Venus, also agreeable surroundings and such things are attributed to Venus.Kindly give your learned opinion. With regards Yours sincerely Jayant Giri --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Satish ji, > > Shri Kuppu Ganpathi has taken " IV+ Mars= Lands, > IV+Venus= Vechicles " > in his article: " Matters Controlled by Bhava " in KP > E-Zine. Could > you kindly provide the authority for " Venus refers > to > Flats/apartments " . > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > , " R Satish " > <rsatish1942 > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > There is a school of thought which > says Mars refers > to > > land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao > Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suprakash, > > > For property,the s/l of > IV,should > signify > > IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with > Mars...For a vehicle > the > > s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have > a connection > with > > Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as > per Krishnamurthi > > Padhdhati... > > > With best wishes, > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@> > > > > > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM > > > Re: Kaarakattva of > planets. > > > > > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL > should be deopsited > in > > a > > > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL > should be in char > > > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader. > > > Regards > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Suprakash > Ghosh " > > > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their > own house don't > > > necessarily > > > > have own car? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > [@gro ups.com] On > > > > Behalf Of Sheetal > > > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of > planets. > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva > of planets but as > > > > rightly said by tw, > > > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an > outright > > significator > > > for > > > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the > exact importance of > > > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but > marriage > happens > > > only > > > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of > significators. > Here > > > karak > > > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found > to negate the > > > incidence > > > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of > karaka Guru and > > Shukra > > > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion > long back on the > > > connetion > > > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house > purchase.Plz > clear my > > > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of > planets in kp. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar > <sunilalaka@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, > edition-1981 > whrein > > > KSK has > > > > > written > > > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars > will indicate > > > house,4th > > > > house and r > > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and > Moon govern > mother,4th > > > house > > > > and > > > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does > not believe in > > > Kaarakattva > > > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as > an outright > > > significator > > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects > of location of > > > karaka > > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on > karaka house are > not > > > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right > track of healthy > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that > KP does not > === message truncated === Jayant Giri Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Dear TW, This subject cropped up quite some ago in one of the groups.I noted the points but did not ask/ record the authority. I do not possess your meticulous habits of recording, I admire you for it. You may kindly ignore ,if you chose to. Regards, Satish , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Satish ji, > > Shri Kuppu Ganpathi has taken " IV+ Mars= Lands, IV+Venus= Vechicles " > in his article: " Matters Controlled by Bhava " in KP E-Zine. Could > you kindly provide the authority for " Venus refers to > Flats/apartments " . > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > There is a school of thought which says Mars refers > to > > land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suprakash, > > > For property,the s/l of IV,should > signify > > IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with Mars...For a vehicle > the > > s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have a connection > with > > Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as per Krishnamurthi > > Padhdhati... > > > With best wishes, > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@> > > > > > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM > > > Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL should be deopsited > in > > a > > > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL should be in char > > > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader. > > > Regards > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Suprakash Ghosh " > > > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their own house don't > > > necessarily > > > > have own car? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > [@gro ups.com] On > > > > Behalf Of Sheetal > > > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva of planets but as > > > > rightly said by tw, > > > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an outright > > significator > > > for > > > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the exact importance of > > > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but marriage > happens > > > only > > > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of significators. > Here > > > karak > > > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found to negate the > > > incidence > > > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of karaka Guru and > > Shukra > > > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion long back on the > > > connetion > > > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house purchase.Plz > clear my > > > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of planets in kp. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, edition-1981 > whrein > > > KSK has > > > > > written > > > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars will indicate > > > house,4th > > > > house and r > > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and Moon govern > mother,4th > > > house > > > > and > > > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does not believe in > > > Kaarakattva > > > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as an outright > > > significator > > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects of location of > > > karaka > > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on karaka house are > not > > > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right track of healthy > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that KP does not > > believe > > > in > > > > > > > Kaarakattva of planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com , " sujatkaram " > > > <sujatkaram@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > It is said that KP does not believe in Kaarakattva of > > > planets.To > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > extent is it true?We believe moon represents the mind, > > mars > > > > > > > represents > > > > > > > > land, jup. and mer. the intellect, and so on and so > forth. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Dear tw As you have said sat. is karka for land.Land is the basic property, even a building is constructed on a piece of land.If you want to be particular let us say sat. is karka for landed property.I can not refer to any classical source at the moment, you may refer to Umang Taneja,s book "Accurate Predictive Methodology ".You may also refer to the great Sh. K S K BOOK "Horary Astrology" (5th edition)page179. The conditions for sale of property are fulfilled in Sun-Rahu but it is sold in Sun-Sat.The reason given however is Poonarphoo.Of course I may be having a misconception, I am not so accomplished astrologer like you. Regards A K SEHGAL -- On Sat, 2/2/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Date: Saturday, 2 February, 2008, 5:47 AM Dear SEHGAL,Request is what is the authority or source for "Saturn as karaka for property."Thanks and regards,tw Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dear Friends, Information on karaka for house/land is given below. Regards, tw 1. KP Reader VI page 181-182 IV+ Mars= land or building IV+ Saturn= mine, mine products, excavation, treasure etc 2. KP Reader III, Old Edition, Part 2 page 77/ New Edt page IV+ Mars= house or land 3. Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page 13 Further Light on Nakshatra Chintamani by Chandrakant R. Bhatt, page 123 IV+ Mars= buildings (also house to dwell in) IV+ Saturn= land, mine and estates 4. K.P. Kuppu Ganpathi: " Matters Controlled by Bhava " in KP E-Zine IV+ Mars= lands 5. K.M. Subramaniam (Sub Lord Speaks): More About the Twelve Bhavas, K.P. & Astrology Year Book 1996, page 103 IV+ Saturn= all inheritance, hereditary properties and hidden trasures 6. Umang Taneja: Nadi Astrology: Accurate Predictive Methodology, page 38, 193 IV+ Mars/Saturn= property 7. Uttara Kalamrita by Kalidas (translated by Dr. P.S. Sastri), page 115-116, 128-129 IV+ Mars= house,land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Dear Jayant Giri ji, " Comforts and enjoyment attached to Venus " might be a rationale of Venus for flats/apartments because IV+ strong karaka Venus= possession of a royal nature, ie. spacious and palatial buildings to reside and luxurious vehicles etc in " System's Approach for Interpreting Horoscopes by , page 99 " . However, generally flats/apartments are not such ones except some luxury apartments and they are for rent. Usually owership is available in condominiums only. In " Crux of Vedic Astrology by Sanjay Rath, page 127 " , IV+Venus= vehicles. Since the source is not available, the rational can't be known for Venus to be karaka for flats/apartments. Regards, tw , jayant giri <jdgiri2001 wrote: > > Dear TinWinji > Venus's signification to flats/apartments could > probably be on account of matters related to comforts > and enjoyment attached to Venus, also agreeable > surroundings and such things are attributed to > Venus.Kindly give your learned opinion. > With regards > Yours sincerely > Jayant Giri > --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > Shri Kuppu Ganpathi has taken " IV+ Mars= Lands, > > IV+Venus= Vechicles " > > in his article: " Matters Controlled by Bhava " in KP > > E-Zine. Could > > you kindly provide the authority for " Venus refers > > to > > Flats/apartments " . > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " R Satish " > > <rsatish1942@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > There is a school of thought which > > says Mars refers > > to > > > land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Suprakash, > > > > For property,the s/l of > > IV,should > > signify > > > IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with > > Mars...For a vehicle > > the > > > s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have > > a connection > > with > > > Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as > > per Krishnamurthi > > > Padhdhati... > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM > > > > Re: Kaarakattva of > > planets. > > > > > > > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL > > should be deopsited > > in > > > a > > > > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL > > should be in char > > > > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader. > > > > Regards > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Suprakash > > Ghosh " > > > > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their > > own house don't > > > > necessarily > > > > > have own car? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > [@gro ups.com] On > > > > > Behalf Of Sheetal > > > > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva > > of planets but as > > > > > rightly said by tw, > > > > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an > > outright > > > significator > > > > for > > > > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the > > exact importance of > > > > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > > > > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but > > marriage > > happens > > > > only > > > > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of > > significators. > > Here > > > > karak > > > > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found > > to negate the > > > > incidence > > > > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of > > karaka Guru and > > > Shukra > > > > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion > > long back on the > > > > connetion > > > > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house > > purchase.Plz > > clear my > > > > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of > > planets in kp. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar > > <sunilalaka@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, > > edition-1981 > > whrein > > > > KSK has > > > > > > written > > > > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars > > will indicate > > > > house,4th > > > > > house and r > > > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and > > Moon govern > > mother,4th > > > > house > > > > > and > > > > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does > > not believe in > > > > Kaarakattva > > > > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as > > an outright > > > > significator > > > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects > > of location of > > > > karaka > > > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on > > karaka house are > > not > > > > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right > > track of healthy > > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > > " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that > > KP does not > > > === message truncated === > > > Jayant Giri > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Dears M/s Giri & Tin Win, Mars is the karaka for building/flat/dwelling/land/property etc...hence Mars posited in Venus sub or strongly linked to Venus by conjunction,or trine aspect etc,could indicate possession of a well-appointed and princely apartment...in my humble opinion...during the D/B/A/S of Mars...? With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! tw853 <tw853 Sent: Tuesday, 5 February, 2008 9:06:39 AM Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Dear Jayant Giri ji,"Comforts and enjoyment attached to Venus" might be a rationale of Venus for flats/apartments because IV+ strong karaka Venus= possession of a royal nature, ie. spacious and palatial buildings to reside and luxurious vehicles etc in "System's Approach for Interpreting Horoscopes by , page 99". However, generally flats/apartments are not such ones except some luxury apartments and they are for rent. Usually owership is available in condominiums only. In "Crux of Vedic Astrology by Sanjay Rath, page 127", IV+Venus= vehicles. Since the source is not available, the rational can't be known for Venus to be karaka for flats/apartments. Regards,tw@gro ups.com, jayant giri <jdgiri2001@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TinWinji> Venus's signification to flats/apartments could> probably be on account of matters related to comforts> and enjoyment attached to Venus, also agreeable> surroundings and such things are attributed to> Venus.Kindly give your learned opinion.> With regards> Yours sincerely> Jayant Giri> --- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > Shri Kuppu Ganpathi has taken "IV+ Mars= Lands,> > IV+Venus= Vechicles" > > in his article: "Matters Controlled by Bhava" in KP> > E-Zine. Could > > you kindly provide the authority for "Venus refers> > to > > Flats/apartments" .> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "R Satish"> > <rsatish1942@ > > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > There is a school of thought which> > says Mars refers > > to > > > land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao> > Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Suprakash,> > > > For property,the s/l of> > IV,should > > signify > > > IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with> > Mars...For a vehicle > > the > > > s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have> > a connection > > with > > > Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as> > per Krishnamurthi > > > Padhdhati...> > > > With best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM> > > > Re: Kaarakattva of> > planets.> > > > > > > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL> > should be deopsited > > in > > > a > > > > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL> > should be in char > > > > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader.> > > > Regards> > > > Rajeev K Khattar> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash> > Ghosh" > > > > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their> > own house don't > > > > necessarily> > > > > have own car?> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > [k_p_ system@gro ups.com] On> > > > > Behalf Of Sheetal> > > > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of> > planets.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir> > > > > > > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva> > of planets but as> > > > > rightly said by tw,> > > > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an> > outright > > > significator > > > > for> > > > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the> > exact importance of> > > > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it?> > > > > > > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but> > marriage > > happens > > > > only> > > > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of> > significators. > > Here > > > > karak> > > > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found> > to negate the > > > > incidence> > > > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of> > karaka Guru and > > > Shukra> > > > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion> > long back on the > > > > connetion> > > > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house> > purchase.Plz > > clear my> > > > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of> > planets in kp.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Sheetal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar> > <sunilalaka@ ...> > > > wrote:> > > > > > i> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > dear sujatkaram,> > > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical,> > edition-1981 > > whrein > > > > KSK has> > > > > > written> > > > > > "planets connected with 4th house and Mars> > will indicate > > > > house,4th> > > > > house and r> > > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and> > Moon govern > > mother,4th > > > > house> > > > > and> > > > > > Mercury indicates education."> > > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva> > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It is wrong that "It is said that KP does> > not believe in > > > > Kaarakattva> > > > > > > of planets."> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as> > an outright > > > > significator> > > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects> > of location of > > > > karaka> > > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on> > karaka house are > > not> > > > > > > considered.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right> > track of healthy > > > > discussion.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com,> > "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear SK ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that> > KP does not > > > === message truncated ===> > > Jayant Giri> > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi ji, The idea of Mars-Venus connection is interestng to study by the charts. Thanks and regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dears M/s Giri & Tin Win, > Mars is the karaka for building/flat/dwelling/land/property etc...hence Mars posited in Venus sub or strongly linked to Venus by conjunction,or trine aspect etc,could indicate possession of a well-appointed and princely apartment...in my humble opinion...during the D/B/A/S of Mars...? > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 > > Tuesday, 5 February, 2008 9:06:39 AM > Re: Kaarakattva of planets. > > Dear Jayant Giri ji, > > " Comforts and enjoyment attached to Venus " might be a rationale of > Venus for flats/apartments because IV+ strong karaka Venus= > possession of a royal nature, ie. spacious and palatial buildings to > reside and luxurious vehicles etc in " System's Approach for > Interpreting Horoscopes by , page 99 " . However, > generally flats/apartments are not such ones except some luxury > apartments and they are for rent. Usually owership is available in > condominiums only. In " Crux of Vedic Astrology by Sanjay Rath, page > 127 " , IV+Venus= vehicles. Since the source is not available, the > rational can't be known for Venus to be karaka for flats/apartments. > > Regards, > > tw > > @gro ups.com, jayant giri <jdgiri2001@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear TinWinji > > Venus's signification to flats/apartments could > > probably be on account of matters related to comforts > > and enjoyment attached to Venus, also agreeable > > surroundings and such things are attributed to > > Venus.Kindly give your learned opinion. > > With regards > > Yours sincerely > > Jayant Giri > > --- tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > Shri Kuppu Ganpathi has taken " IV+ Mars= Lands, > > > IV+Venus= Vechicles " > > > in his article: " Matters Controlled by Bhava " in KP > > > E-Zine. Could > > > you kindly provide the authority for " Venus refers > > > to > > > Flats/apartments " . > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " R Satish " > > > <rsatish1942@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > There is a school of thought which > > > says Mars refers > > > to > > > > land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > > Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Suprakash, > > > > > For property,the s/l of > > > IV,should > > > signify > > > > IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with > > > Mars...For a vehicle > > > the > > > > s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have > > > a connection > > > with > > > > Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as > > > per Krishnamurthi > > > > Padhdhati... > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM > > > > > Re: Kaarakattva of > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL > > > should be deopsited > > > in > > > > a > > > > > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL > > > should be in char > > > > > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Suprakash > > > Ghosh " > > > > > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their > > > own house don't > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > have own car? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > [k_p_ system@gro ups.com] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Sheetal > > > > > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva > > > of planets but as > > > > > > rightly said by tw, > > > > > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an > > > outright > > > > significator > > > > > for > > > > > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the > > > exact importance of > > > > > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but > > > marriage > > > happens > > > > > only > > > > > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of > > > significators. > > > Here > > > > > karak > > > > > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found > > > to negate the > > > > > incidence > > > > > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of > > > karaka Guru and > > > > Shukra > > > > > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion > > > long back on the > > > > > connetion > > > > > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house > > > purchase.Plz > > > clear my > > > > > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of > > > planets in kp. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar > > > <sunilalaka@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sujatkaram, > > > > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, > > > edition-1981 > > > whrein > > > > > KSK has > > > > > > > written > > > > > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars > > > will indicate > > > > > house,4th > > > > > > house and r > > > > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and > > > Moon govern > > > mother,4th > > > > > house > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva > > > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does > > > not believe in > > > > > Kaarakattva > > > > > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as > > > an outright > > > > > significator > > > > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects > > > of location of > > > > > karaka > > > > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on > > > karaka house are > > > not > > > > > > > > considered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right > > > track of healthy > > > > > discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, > > > " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SK ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that > > > KP does not > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > Jayant Giri > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know > how, go to > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Dear Sir Shukra connection suggests a luxurious with very good architecture of the house. Regards Sheetal On Feb 5, 2008 8:47 AM, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dears M/s Giri & Tin Win, Mars is the karaka for building/flat/dwelling/land/property etc...hence Mars posited in Venus sub or strongly linked to Venus by conjunction,or trine aspect etc,could indicate possession of a well-appointed and princely apartment...in my humble opinion...during the D/B/A/S of Mars...? With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! tw853 <tw853 Tuesday, 5 February, 2008 9:06:39 AM Re: Kaarakattva of planets. Dear Jayant Giri ji, " Comforts and enjoyment attached to Venus " might be a rationale of Venus for flats/apartments because IV+ strong karaka Venus= possession of a royal nature, ie. spacious and palatial buildings to reside and luxurious vehicles etc in " System's Approach for Interpreting Horoscopes by , page 99 " . However, generally flats/apartments are not such ones except some luxury apartments and they are for rent. Usually owership is available in condominiums only. In " Crux of Vedic Astrology by Sanjay Rath, page 127 " , IV+Venus= vehicles. Since the source is not available, the rational can't be known for Venus to be karaka for flats/apartments. Regards,tw@gro ups.com, jayant giri <jdgiri2001@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TinWinji> Venus's signification to flats/apartments could> probably be on account of matters related to comforts> and enjoyment attached to Venus, also agreeable > surroundings and such things are attributed to> Venus.Kindly give your learned opinion.> With regards> Yours sincerely> Jayant Giri> --- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > Shri Kuppu Ganpathi has taken " IV+ Mars= Lands,> > IV+Venus= Vechicles " > > in his article: " Matters Controlled by Bhava " in KP> > E-Zine. Could > > you kindly provide the authority for " Venus refers> > to > > Flats/apartments " .> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > @gro ups.com, " R Satish " > > <rsatish1942@ > > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > There is a school of thought which > > says Mars refers > > to > > > land and Venus refers to Flats/apartments.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao > > Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Suprakash,> > > > For property,the s/l of> > IV,should > > signify > > > IV,XI & XII and also have a connection with> > Mars...For a vehicle > > the > > > s/l of IV should must signify II,IV & XI and have> > a connection > > with > > > Venus...and be deposited in a moveable sign...as> > per Krishnamurthi > > > Padhdhati...> > > > With best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:57:11 PM > > > > Re: Kaarakattva of> > planets.> > > > > > > > In my humble opinion,for house/plot 4th CSL> > should be deopsited > > in > > > a > > > > sthir rasi whereas for moving vehicle 4th CSL> > should be in char > > > > rasi.The details has been given in 6th reader.> > > > Regards > > > > Rajeev K Khattar> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Suprakash> > Ghosh " > > > > <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > Can anybody say why all people having their> > own house don't > > > > necessarily> > > > > have own car?> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > [k_p_ system@gro ups.com] On> > > > > Behalf Of Sheetal> > > > > Friday, January 25, 2008 11:54 PM > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Re: Re: Kaarakattva of> > planets.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir> > > > > > > > > > Yes we all read that kp believes in Karakatva> > of planets but as> > > > > rightly said by tw,> > > > > that a karaka planet is not considered as an > > outright > > > significator > > > > for> > > > > the matter it governs. Then what is the the> > exact importance of> > > > > Karaktva in kp and where to apply it? > > > > > > > > > > Eg.Guru and Shukra are vivah karak planets but> > marriage > > happens > > > > only> > > > > when 7th sub indicate and during the DBA of > > significators. > > Here > > > > karak> > > > > planet dosn's play in role and sometimes found> > to negate the > > > > incidence> > > > > in their DBA.Can anybody explain the role of > > karaka Guru and > > > Shukra> > > > > planet in marraige. Also we had discussion> > long back on the > > > > connetion> > > > > of Karaka planets Shani & mars for plot/house > > purchase.Plz > > clear my> > > > > doubts regarding exact role of karkatva of> > planets in kp.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008 5:53 PM, sunil gondhalekar> > <sunilalaka@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > i> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > dear sujatkaram,> > > > > > pl.refer 3rd reader,page 77-part-practical, > > edition-1981 > > whrein > > > > KSK has> > > > > > written> > > > > > " planets connected with 4th house and Mars> > will indicate > > > > house,4th> > > > > house and r> > > > > > Venus indicates conveyance,4th house and> > Moon govern > > mother,4th > > > > house > > > > > and> > > > > > Mercury indicates education. " > > > > > > this quote is sufficient for karakattva> > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 1/24/08, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It is wrong that " It is said that KP does > > not believe in > > > > Kaarakattva> > > > > > > of planets. " > > > > > > >> > > > > > > But a karaka planet is not considered as > > an outright > > > > significator> > > > > > > for the matter it governs, and the effects> > of location of > > > > karaka> > > > > > > planet in karaka house and its aspect on > > karaka house are > > not> > > > > > > considered.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hope this doesn't go beyond the right> > track of healthy > > > > discussion.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com,> > " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear SK ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Could you kindly give the reference that > > KP does not > > > === message truncated ===> > > Jayant Giri> > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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