Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Respected members, Sir, In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? regards, sk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Hello, Nice question raised. Now, as far as my knowledge of KP goes 5th and 11th house are usually seen for curing from illness, even if 11th house is Badhak for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some or the other obstacles. And moreover it is cusp of 5th and 11th to be studied for recovery, if this cusp is only associated with recovery houses rather than maraka houses then recovery would be for sure but with some or the other delay, if 11th is badhak as for certain ascendants. Comments from superiors awaited Regards, Yogitasujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Respected members,Sir,In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ?regards,sk Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Dear SK ji, I'm sorry to say that it can be death by KP or 4 Step. Like Shri Raichur, I know only prayer. Remedies may not be available for each and every event or person. It's said that one can come out from the mouth of lion without scratch thanks to good remedies. But in his famous prediction of the death of his King Vikramathithya's son, which made him crowned with royal titlle " Vahara " , Vaharamihira, also said that no human remedies could avert the danger and to save his life. " Whatever he (Vaharamihira) uttered, came true to the word. " (Astrsecrets & KP, Part III, page 235). Regards, tw , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram wrote: > > Respected members, > Sir, > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > regards, > sk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 -Respected sujat karam jee As my opinion is " Badhaka plays major role only in considering of longevity .If sickness is fatal which should be judged from 8th sublord and period of sickness is comming on the last phase of native's longevity then ofcourse this 11 th will not give cure otherwise it will give invariably cure. WITH REGARDS AMIT -- In , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram wrote: > > Respected members, > Sir, > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > regards, > sk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 tinwinji pranam, 11th happens to be badhakasthanam for all chara lagna bornsi.e. mesha,kataka,tula,makaram then does it means that they can not expect cure if 11th csl signifies 11th.pls kindly clarify thiswith rgds...................tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear SK ji, I'm sorry to say that it can be death by KP or 4 Step. Like Shri Raichur, I know only prayer. Remedies may not be available for each and every event or person. It's said that one can come out from the mouth of lion without scratch thanks to good remedies. But in his famous prediction of the death of his King Vikramathithya's son, which made him crowned with royal titlle "Vahara", Vaharamihira, also said that no human remedies could avert the danger and to save his life. "Whatever he (Vaharamihira) uttered, came true to the word." (Astrsecrets & KP, Part III, page 235). Regards, tw , "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram wrote: > > Respected members, > Sir, > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > regards, > sk > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Dear Friend, That is why Kanak strongly suggests not to never select Chara lagna in muhurat chart because 11th is not good but becomes a Badhaka for Chara Lagna i.e. MESHA, KARKA, TULA AND MAKAR. Regards, tw , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > tinwinji pranam, > > 11th happens to be badhakasthanam for all chara lagna borns > i.e. mesha,kataka,tula,makaram then does it means that they > can not expect cure if 11th csl signifies 11th.pls kindly clarify this > with rgds................... > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear SK ji, > > I'm sorry to say that it can be death by KP or 4 Step. > > Like Shri Raichur, I know only prayer. > > Remedies may not be available for each and every event or person. It's > said that one can come out from the mouth of lion without scratch > thanks to good remedies. But in his famous prediction of the death of > his King Vikramathithya's son, which made him crowned with royal > titlle " Vahara " , Vaharamihira, also said that no human remedies could > avert the danger and to save his life. " Whatever he (Vaharamihira) > uttered, came true to the word. " (Astrsecrets & KP, Part III, page > 235). > > Regards, > > tw > > , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@> wrote: > > > > Respected members, > > Sir, > > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > > regards, > > sk > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Dear Friend, Further to my mail, 11th csl's signification of 11th may be worse by strengthening 11th. 11th csl's signification of 10th may give relief because 10th is vraya to the 11th house matters. Regards, tw , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > > That is why Kanak strongly suggests not to never select Chara lagna > in muhurat chart because 11th is not good but becomes a Badhaka for > Chara Lagna i.e. MESHA, KARKA, TULA AND MAKAR. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote: > > > > tinwinji pranam, > > > > 11th happens to be badhakasthanam for all chara lagna borns > > i.e. mesha,kataka,tula,makaram then does it means that they > > can not expect cure if 11th csl signifies 11th.pls kindly clarify > this > > with rgds................... > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: Dear SK ji, > > > > I'm sorry to say that it can be death by KP or 4 Step. > > > > Like Shri Raichur, I know only prayer. > > > > Remedies may not be available for each and every event or person. > It's > > said that one can come out from the mouth of lion without scratch > > thanks to good remedies. But in his famous prediction of the > death of > > his King Vikramathithya's son, which made him crowned with royal > > titlle " Vahara " , Vaharamihira, also said that no human remedies > could > > avert the danger and to save his life. " Whatever he > (Vaharamihira) > > uttered, came true to the word. " (Astrsecrets & KP, Part III, > page > > 235). > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram@> > wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > Sir, > > > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th > cusp > > > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be > done if > > > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > > > regards, > > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we > have it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Message #6816 of 16069 < Prev | Next > Tue Nov 8, 2005 7:11 am Re: Badhaka Planet--FOR OTHER HOUSES? SOME VIEWS ON BADHAKA 1. KP --- The Bhadhaka houses are the worst malefics for death. --- the worst malefics in cutting one's life without hesitation. It may effect only the health if its dasa or bhukti is ruled by the planet --- KP Reader III & V p 226. 2. Prasna Marga --- a house of harm --- applicable to only horary astrology and not in natal astrology. 3. Jataka Parijata --- an additional condition: the badhaka lord for a particular lagana should be treated as an actual badhaka, if it simultaneously be the lord of the house tenanted by Mandi (Gulika) or Kharesha (Lord of 22 nd drekkana from the lagna). That is why, " Don't worry about it. " --- Dr. M.V. Mehta. 4. V. K. Choudhry (System's Analysis-SA) ---SA doest not believe in ---- maraka planets, --- badhaka principles --- if not closely associated with other functional malefic planet or the most malefic planet, its influence on any planet or the most effective point of a house, would never be bad. 5. Sanjay Rath --- obstruction --- in various forms ---an evil -- -should not be taken lightly --- with neechabhanga rajayoga in badhaka sign, ---- Aurangzeb killed his brothers and imprisoned his father (till death) and grabbed the Mogul Empire. 6. Sumeet Chugh --- " Timing of Events " , badhka Mercury in 2nd house destroyed Tagore's family life; badhaka Saturn in 9 th killed Omar Khayyam's father early in life but that same Saturn in own house with Jupiter gave him sharp intellect to become a mathematician, philosopher and doctor; Henry Bower died in the return from expedition to south pole during Venus dasa of badhaka lord and also 22nd Drekkana in 12th and hemmed between malefics. , Yogita Purohit <yogitapurohit wrote: > > Hello, > > Nice question raised. > > Now, as far as my knowledge of KP goes 5th and 11th house are usually seen for curing from illness, even if 11th house is Badhak for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some or the other obstacles. > > And moreover it is cusp of 5th and 11th to be studied for recovery, if this cusp is only associated with recovery houses rather than maraka houses then recovery would be for sure but with some or the other delay, if 11th is badhak as for certain ascendants. > > Comments from superiors awaited > > Regards, > > Yogita > > sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: > Respected members, > Sir, > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > regards, > sk > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 -Respected yogita jee As you wrote " even if 11th house is Badhak for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some or the other obstacles. " I think and as per my understanding of kp its not appropriate to put badhak behind the marak.Badhak is first class life taking planet who never hesitate to take life away. If your statement is supported by kp readers plz give referance. With regards amit -- In , Yogita Purohit <yogitapurohit wrote: > > Hello, > > Nice question raised. > > Now, as far as my knowledge of KP goes 5th and 11th house are usually seen for curing from illness, even if 11th house is Badhak for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some or the other obstacles. > > And moreover it is cusp of 5th and 11th to be studied for recovery, if this cusp is only associated with recovery houses rather than maraka houses then recovery would be for sure but with some or the other delay, if 11th is badhak as for certain ascendants. > > Comments from superiors awaited > > Regards, > > Yogita > > sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: > Respected members, > Sir, > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > regards, > sk > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Dears Amit & Yogita, Kindly go through the chapter on death dealing planets/dasa/bhukti etc...and doesn't the sub-lord of the Dasa-lord and rthe D/B/A operating finally decide...on the timing of death...? The transits should NEVER be forgotten...please...all should coincide... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar Sent: Saturday, 12 January, 2008 8:35:25 AM Re: Illness and 11th house. -Respected yogita jeeAs you wrote"even if 11th house is Badhak for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some or the other obstacles."I think and as per my understanding of kp its not appropriate to put badhak behind the marak.Badhak is first class life taking planet who never hesitate to take life away.If your statement is supported by kp readers plz give referance.With regardsamit -- In @gro ups.com, Yogita Purohit <yogitapurohit@ ...> wrote:>> Hello,> > Nice question raised.> > Now, as far as my knowledge of KP goes 5th and 11th house are usually seen for curing from illness, even if 11th house is Badhak for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some or the other obstacles.> > And moreover it is cusp of 5th and 11th to be studied for recovery, if this cusp is only associated with recovery houses rather than maraka houses then recovery would be for sure but with some or the other delay, if 11th is badhak as for certain ascendants.> > Comments from superiors awaited> > Regards,> > Yogita> > sujatkaram <sujatkaram@ ...> wrote:> Respected members,> Sir,> In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ?> regards,> sk > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 a long debate is going on as to role of 11th house as baadhak sthan for char lagna.the debate is confined to only with reference to illness and death.in general we know that 11th is boon for every lagna without which nothing can be achieved including marriage,job,foreign trevel,child begetting,higher and lower education etc,etc.does it mean that the people of char lagna,4,7,10, will be deprived of any thing during the significtion of 11th house planets in terms of dba periods.seniors may like to clarify it.thanks.goswami Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 dear tinwinji pranam,as i was out of station now i am responding.no doubt badhaka sthana significators will cause death.along with maraka sthana significators.if asc csl is promising long span of life then theperiod of badhaka sthan significators running during teenage will cause health setback,orproblems.in 3rd reader p.no. 176 our guruji sri ksk stated that for cure in disease 11th should be well fortified .he had not exempted chara lagnas,kindly clarify this with rgds...................tw853 <tw853 wrote: Message #6816 of 16069 < Prev | Next > Tue Nov 8, 2005 7:11 am Re: Badhaka Planet--FOR OTHER HOUSES? SOME VIEWS ON BADHAKA 1. KP --- The Bhadhaka houses are the worst malefics for death. --- the worst malefics in cutting one's life without hesitation. It may effect only the health if its dasa or bhukti is ruled by the planet --- KP Reader III & V p 226. 2. Prasna Marga --- a house of harm --- applicable to only horary astrology and not in natal astrology. 3. Jataka Parijata --- an additional condition: the badhaka lord for a particular lagana should be treated as an actual badhaka, if it simultaneously be the lord of the house tenanted by Mandi (Gulika) or Kharesha (Lord of 22 nd drekkana from the lagna). That is why, "Don't worry about it." --- Dr. M.V. Mehta. 4. V. K. Choudhry (System's Analysis-SA) ---SA doest not believe in ---- maraka planets, --- badhaka principles --- if not closely associated with other functional malefic planet or the most malefic planet, its influence on any planet or the most effective point of a house, would never be bad. 5. Sanjay Rath --- obstruction --- in various forms ---an evil -- -should not be taken lightly --- with neechabhanga rajayoga in badhaka sign, ---- Aurangzeb killed his brothers and imprisoned his father (till death) and grabbed the Mogul Empire. 6. Sumeet Chugh --- "Timing of Events", badhka Mercury in 2nd house destroyed Tagore's family life; badhaka Saturn in 9 th killed Omar Khayyam's father early in life but that same Saturn in own house with Jupiter gave him sharp intellect to become a mathematician, philosopher and doctor; Henry Bower died in the return from expedition to south pole during Venus dasa of badhaka lord and also 22nd Drekkana in 12th and hemmed between malefics. , Yogita Purohit <yogitapurohit wrote: > > Hello, > > Nice question raised. > > Now, as far as my knowledge of KP goes 5th and 11th house are usually seen for curing from illness, even if 11th house is Badhak for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some or the other obstacles. > > And moreover it is cusp of 5th and 11th to be studied for recovery, if this cusp is only associated with recovery houses rather than maraka houses then recovery would be for sure but with some or the other delay, if 11th is badhak as for certain ascendants. > > Comments from superiors awaited > > Regards, > > Yogita > > sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: > Respected members, > Sir, > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done if > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > regards, > sk > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Dear Pavan ji, 1. You're right that " if asc csl is promising long span of life, then the period of badhaka sthan significators running during teenage will cause health setback or problems " (only suffering but not death in younger age). 2. Regarding " in 3rd reader p.no. 176 our guruji sri ksk stated that for cure in disease 11th should be well fortified . he had not exempted chara lagnas " , as Shri Shanmugam has said 11th is really (death inflicting) Bhadaka for chara lagnas, there is no exemtion. Regards, tw , vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > dear tinwinji pranam, > > as i was out of station now i am responding. > no doubt badhaka sthana significators will cause death. > along with maraka sthana significators. > if asc csl is promising long span of life then the > period of badhaka sthan significators running during teenage > will cause health setback,or > problems. > in 3rd reader p.no. 176 our guruji sri ksk stated that > for cure in disease 11th should be well fortified . > he had not exempted chara lagnas, > kindly clarify this > with rgds................... > > tw853 tw853 wrote: Message #6816 of 16069 < Prev | Next > Tue Nov 8, 2005 7:11 am > > Re: Badhaka Planet--FOR OTHER HOUSES? > > SOME VIEWS ON BADHAKA > > 1. KP --- The Bhadhaka houses are the worst malefics for death. > --- the worst malefics in cutting one's life without > hesitation. It may effect only the health if its dasa or bhukti is > ruled by the planet --- KP Reader III & V p 226. > > 2. Prasna Marga --- a house of harm --- applicable to only > horary astrology and not in natal astrology. > > 3. Jataka Parijata --- an additional condition: the badhaka lord > for a particular lagana should be treated as an actual badhaka, if it > simultaneously be the lord of the house tenanted by Mandi (Gulika) or > Kharesha (Lord of 22 nd drekkana from the lagna). That is > why, " Don't worry about it. " --- Dr. M.V. Mehta. > > 4. V. K. Choudhry (System's Analysis-SA) ---SA doest not believe > in ---- maraka planets, --- badhaka principles --- if not closely > associated with other functional malefic planet or the most malefic > planet, its influence on any planet or the most effective point of a > house, would never be bad. > > 5. Sanjay Rath --- obstruction --- in various forms ---an evil -- > -should not be taken lightly --- with neechabhanga rajayoga in > badhaka sign, ---- Aurangzeb killed his brothers and imprisoned his > father (till death) and grabbed the Mogul Empire. > > 6. Sumeet Chugh --- " Timing of Events " , badhka Mercury in 2nd > house destroyed Tagore's family life; badhaka Saturn in 9 th killed > Omar Khayyam's father early in life but that same Saturn in own house > with Jupiter gave him sharp intellect to become a mathematician, > philosopher and doctor; Henry Bower died in the return from > expedition to south pole during Venus dasa of badhaka lord and also > 22nd Drekkana in 12th and hemmed between malefics. > > > , Yogita Purohit > yogitapurohit@ wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Nice question raised. > > > > Now, as far as my knowledge of KP goes 5th and 11th house are > usually seen for curing from illness, even if 11th house is Badhak > for certain ascendant , it won't be marak, what i mean is marak > sthana would be more fatal is associated . Badhak would create some > or the other obstacles. > > > > And moreover it is cusp of 5th and 11th to be studied for > recovery, if this cusp is only associated with recovery houses > rather than maraka houses then recovery would be for sure but with > some or the other delay, if 11th is badhak as for certain ascendants. > > > > Comments from superiors awaited > > > > Regards, > > > > Yogita > > > > sujatkaram sujatkaram@ wrote: > > Respected members, > > Sir, > > In predicting cure from illness/sickness the sub of the 11th cusp > > [Labha stthana] is used to ascertain the same.What should be done > if > > 11th house happens to be the Badhaka ? > > regards, > > sk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search. > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Dear Goswami ji, As per KP, 11th Badhaka is malefic for only illness and death as mentioned by you but does not deprive all kinds of other achivement in life of the people of chara lagna. Regards, tw , vasudhakar goswami <vasudhakargoswami wrote: > > a long debate is going on as to role of 11th house as > baadhak sthan for char lagna.the debate is confined to > only with reference to illness and death.in general we > know that 11th is boon for every lagna without which > nothing can be achieved including marriage,job,foreign > trevel,child begetting,higher and lower education > etc,etc.does it mean that the people of char > lagna,4,7,10, will be deprived of any thing during the > significtion of 11th house planets in terms of dba > periods.seniors may like to clarify it.thanks.goswami > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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