Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Harimallaji, Once you delink Uttarayana from the Makar Sankranti you will have no problem. Kaul wanted to create problem by associating Makar Sankranti with the Uttarayana by saying that the Makar Sankranti must be celebrated on the Uttarayana day but he could not give a single reference if the celebration of Uttarayana was recommended in the Vedas. Uttarayana is bound to shift from Rashi to Rashi and one has to accept that with grace. Makar Sankranti is to be celebrated only on the day of the Makar Sankramana. Soli-lunar Nakshatriya Calendar has no permanent position for the Uttarayana as the Uttarayana occurs in different Nakshatras at different times. There was only one period when the Makar Sankranti coincided with the Uttarayana and not for ever. That period is now over and one will have to wait smany thousand years for that to happen again. The Winter Solstice meant a lot to the people of Europe which is mostly snow-clad in the winter. Winter solstice is the beginning of the end of the icy days. That was the beginning of the warmer days to come. That was also the beginning ofa flurry of activities with the end of the general in-house confinement. Though we in Bharatvarsha too have some very cold places in the the Aryavarta and particularly in the Brahmavarta region within the Aryavarta, these areas are not snow-clad like the regions of Europe. That could be the regionm there was no special celebration of the Uttarayana in the ancient times. One recognises the Seasonal (Tropical) calendar does not mean that one has to make khicchdi (khicchri) of both the Nakshatriya and the Seasonal calendars. When you prepare food you don't mix all rice, wheat,dal, vegetables, fish and meat and then cook all of them together though it is going to the same stomach. So also one cannot make khicchri of the Nakshatriya and the Seasonal calendar. In my view these two calendars have to have their separate identities and can only be combined externally and not internally. Sincerely Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Hari Malla <harimalla wrote: Hari Malla <harimalla Re: Re: Calender reform Cc: parvasudhar2065, HinduCalendar Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:18 AM Dear Bhaatacharjyaji, Thank you for your suggestion which is defintely appropriate. 1.It has been proved after extensive exercises that maagha purnima fluctuates over the zone of maghaa and aslesha nakshyatra, 15 days before and 15 days after kumbha sankranti.Kumbha sankranti lies 180 degrees from the mid point of maghaa and aslesha nakshyatras. 2.Similiarly, Poush purnima fluactuates over the zone of pushya and punarvsu nakshyatras. It also moves 15 days before and 15 days after makar sankranti, so that makar ssnkranti lies 180 degreees form the midpoint of pushya and punarvsu nakshyatras. 3.Also,Mangsir purnima fluctuates over Adra, mrigasira and rohini nakshyatras. It moves 15 days before and 15 days after dhanu sankranti, so that the dhanu sankranti is 180 degrees from the midpointof the said nakshaytras. Now the uttarayan point being 6th. of saur poush(21 dec.) lies in the third category or zone.It thus lies in the zone of magsir purnima.Thus mangsir purnima is the uttarayn purnima.The middle of this purnima zone(ie 180 degrees from the mid point of mrigasira nakshyatra) is dhanu sankranti.Thus joint soli-lunar status demands that the actual sayan uttrayan at 21 dec or 6th of saura poush can be authentically represented by the nirayan sankranti, dhanu sankranti.It is a matehmatically proved. the lunar date for Maagha snana was orignally at maagha sukla pratipada during the vednga jyotish period, which was the only uttrayan date, there bing no solar date as such.Nevertheless the sun in dhanistha was also sepcified as the starting point in the same way that makar sankranti was later specifiedin the sidhanta jyotish period as the solar date, whaich was virtually the starting point only. In the sidhanta jyotish period uttarayan tithi was shifted to poush purnima and the solar date parallel to sun in dhanistha was shifted to sun in uttar ashdha (ie makar sankranti). It had to be done because of the precessional shift.Here we must think hard why did Barah mihir and others not keep on sticking to the sun in dhanistha, like we are now sticking to makar sankranti.Because uttarayan is the more important and not dhanistha. similarly we should not stick to the star uttara ashadha ie makar sankranti as our uncahngeable date for uttarayan now.The question may arise, do the stars not affect us? This is the crucial question.The answer is, no the stars do not affect us by themselves, they are only a fixed measure of time in sapce.If the stars affected us by themselves then we would have to take the affect of of all the stars ie toal 88 constellations. But we consider only 12 constellation for our purpose which lie in the zodiac belt along the ecliptic? thus the earth moving along the ecliptic, our sense of annual time is important and not the stars.Sir has anybody an answer for this question.so lt give our attachment ot the nirayan stsrs. they have become redunant now.Let us be practical llike our ancestors like Baraha mihir and others. I speak on the basis of research of all possible analysis.So kindly condsider.Thank you, sincerely yours, Hari Malla Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @> ancient_indian_ astrology Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:35:58 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Calender reform Dear Harimallaji, Please do one exercise yourself about the Purnimanta month as to in which Nakshatra the Purnima has to occur at the end of the month of Magha and also the fact that on the purnima day the sun will be 180 degrees away in another Nakshatra. You will have a better grasp of the Luni-Solar calendar. The Vedanga Jyotisha mentions about some occurrence in one particular year in the past and that does not mean that it has to occur the same way in the subsequent years. We cannot do any artificial thing. The heavenly bodies will do things in their natural way as per the rules the Providence had made. Further the Maghasnana has to be in the month of Magha or at the junction of the Pousha and Magha and not in any other condition. Sincerely Sunil K. Bhattacharjya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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