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Dear Harimallaji,

 

Once you delink Uttarayana from the Makar Sankranti you will have no problem.

Kaul wanted to create problem by associating Makar Sankranti with the Uttarayana

by saying that the Makar Sankranti must be celebrated on the Uttarayana day but

he could not give a single reference if the celebration of Uttarayana

was recommended in the Vedas. Uttarayana is bound to shift from Rashi to Rashi

and one has to accept that with grace. Makar Sankranti is to be celebrated only

on the day of the Makar Sankramana. Soli-lunar Nakshatriya Calendar has no

permanent position for the Uttarayana as the Uttarayana occurs in different

Nakshatras  at different times. There was only one period when the Makar

Sankranti coincided with the Uttarayana and not for ever. That period is now

over and one will have to wait smany thousand years for that to happen again.

 

The Winter Solstice meant a lot to the people of Europe which is mostly

snow-clad in the winter. Winter solstice is the beginning of the end of the icy

days. That was the beginning of the warmer days to come. That was also the

beginning ofa flurry of activities with the end of the general in-house

confinement. Though we in Bharatvarsha too have some very cold places in the the

Aryavarta and particularly in the Brahmavarta region within the Aryavarta,

 these areas are not snow-clad like the regions of Europe. That could be the

regionm there was no special celebration of the Uttarayana in the ancient times.

 

One recognises the Seasonal (Tropical) calendar does not mean that one has to

make khicchdi (khicchri) of both the Nakshatriya and the Seasonal calendars.

When you prepare food you don't mix all rice, wheat,dal, vegetables, fish and

meat  and then cook all of them together though it is going to the same stomach.

So also one cannot make khicchri of the Nakshatriya and the Seasonal calendar.

In my view these two calendars have to have their separate identities and can

only be combined externally and not internally. 

 

Sincerely

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Hari Malla <harimalla wrote:

 

 

Hari Malla <harimalla

Re: Re: Calender reform

 

Cc: parvasudhar2065, HinduCalendar

Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:18 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaatacharjyaji,

Thank you for your suggestion which is defintely appropriate.

1.It has been proved after extensive exercises that maagha purnima

fluctuates over the zone of maghaa and aslesha nakshyatra, 15 days before and 15

days after kumbha sankranti.Kumbha sankranti lies 180 degrees  from the mid

point of maghaa and aslesha nakshyatras.

 

2.Similiarly, Poush purnima fluactuates over the zone of pushya and punarvsu

nakshyatras. It also moves 15 days before and 15 days after makar sankranti, so

that makar ssnkranti lies 180 degreees form the midpoint of pushya and punarvsu

nakshyatras.

 

3.Also,Mangsir purnima fluctuates over Adra, mrigasira and rohini nakshyatras.

It moves 15 days before and 15 days after dhanu sankranti, so that the dhanu

sankranti is 180 degrees from the midpointof the said nakshaytras.

Now the uttarayan point being 6th. of saur poush(21 dec.) lies in the third

category or zone.It thus lies in the zone of magsir purnima.Thus mangsir

purnima is the uttarayn purnima.The middle of this purnima zone(ie 180 degrees

from the mid point of mrigasira nakshyatra) is dhanu sankranti.Thus joint

soli-lunar status demands that the actual sayan  uttrayan at 21 dec or 6th of

saura poush can be authentically represented by the nirayan sankranti, dhanu

sankranti.It is a matehmatically proved.

the lunar date for Maagha snana was orignally at maagha sukla pratipada during

the vednga jyotish period, which was the only uttrayan date, there bing no solar

date as such.Nevertheless the sun in dhanistha was also sepcified as the

starting point in the same way that makar sankranti was later specifiedin the

sidhanta jyotish period as the solar date, whaich was virtually the starting

point only.

In the sidhanta jyotish period uttarayan tithi was shifted to poush purnima and

the solar date parallel to sun in dhanistha was shifted to sun in uttar ashdha

(ie makar sankranti). It had to be done because of the precessional shift.Here

we must think hard why did Barah mihir and others not keep on sticking to the

sun in dhanistha, like we are now sticking to  makar sankranti.Because

uttarayan is the more important and not dhanistha. similarly we should not stick

to the star uttara ashadha ie makar sankranti as our uncahngeable date for

uttarayan now.The question may arise, do the stars not affect us? This is the

crucial question.The answer is, no the stars do not affect us by themselves,

they are only a fixed measure of time in sapce.If the stars affected us by

themselves then we would have to take the affect of of all the stars ie toal 88

constellations. But we consider only 12 constellation for our purpose which lie

in the zodiac belt along the

ecliptic? thus the earth moving along the ecliptic, our sense of annual time is

important and not the stars.Sir has anybody an answer for this question.so lt

give our attachment ot the nirayan stsrs. they have become redunant now.Let us

be practical llike our ancestors like Baraha mihir and others.

I speak on the basis of research of all possible analysis.So kindly

condsider.Thank you,

sincerely yours,

Hari Malla

 

 

 

 

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @>

ancient_indian_ astrology

Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:35:58 PM

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Calender reform

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Harimallaji,

 

Please do one exercise yourself about the Purnimanta month  as to in which

Nakshatra the Purnima has to occur  at the end of the month of Magha and also

the fact that on the purnima day the sun will be 180 degrees away in another

Nakshatra. You will have a better grasp of the Luni-Solar calendar. The Vedanga

Jyotisha mentions about some occurrence in one particular year in the past and

that does not mean that it has to occur the same way in the subsequent years. We

cannot do any artificial thing. The heavenly bodies will do things in their

natural way as per the rules the Providence had made.  

 

Further the Maghasnana has to be in the month of Magha or at the junction of the

Pousha and Magha and not in any other condition.

 

Sincerely

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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