Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 What if astrology could be proven to have direct relationships with other metaphysical systems, such as numerology, the I Ching, Tarot, the Tree of Life, the Tzolkin, runes, and the Enneagram? Then, astrologers could discover nuances inherent in those systems and prove how they correlate to astrology. For example, the Tree of Life has 22 paths connecting 10 sephiroth. The Enneagram also has very specific relationships which are not currently part of astrology. Think how much richer astrology would become if it could prove these relationships. The good news is, now the proof is here: http://logos.13gems.com Take a look and see for yourself. Chapter 13 is dedicated to astrology, but you will want to go back and read from the beginning after reading that chapter. Enjoy. beno PS Only online once a week. " If your words don't startle the crowd, you will fall into the streams of the commonplace. " --Blue Cliff Record (Ch'an [Zen] Buddhist scripture) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 , beno beno <mynameisbeno wrote: > > What if astrology could be proven to have direct relationships with other metaphysical systems, such as numerology, the I Ching, Tarot, the Tree of Life, the Tzolkin, runes, and the Enneagram? ...<snip> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Beno Beno Ji, Should that not be a given? Take a leaf for instance, an ordinary leaf. It can be described in botanical terms, physics terms, chemistry terms, zoology terms (little ants and instects crawling on the leaf), environmental science terms, metaphysical terms (kirilian photography or other similar wonderful terms), spiritual development terms (just focus on the black ant that is in samadhi in the middle of the deep green leaf -- or perhaps dead! and practice Trataka Kriya on it), gastronomical terms (if you are a caterpillar for instance), or criminal terms (if you are a drug dealer and the leaf belongs to a marijyana plant!) or a caterer (who needs to make 'pattals' out of leaves to provide to a marriage or shraddha catering) or ... the list goes on. If an ordinary leaf can be of so much personal interest to so many wonderful people, many scientists and others providing useful service to the society (other than the mary-jane dealer who in a sense provides employment and the reason to be for the Policeman if you think of it!) -- then how can one assume that the finest creation of God, Human being would be of not consuming interest for more than just astrologers or astrology? And by 'consuming interest', I DID NOT mean or imply - " a cash cow " as the derogatory expression goes, for the occultists. Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Rohiniranjanji, One of the relatives of astrology could be the evolution of life both plant and animals and anthropology too.Have you heard of evoltuion by the bioclock. This bioclock is what our ancestors have been calling as kalachakra. Also in this category we can have physiology of animals and humans.The earth by its various motions produces life.Since astrology is the study of this earth motions, all that is created by it is the relative of astrology. But one word of caution is if you search for the truth you will discover that astrology as it is practised now is 40 percent hoax.If you do not mind to accept that fact, then I could tell you more about this issue.Many astrologers do not want to hear the truth.Do you? thanking you, Sincerely yours, Hari Malla ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:19:01 AM Re: If Astrology Had Relatives... , beno beno <mynameisbeno@ ...> wrote: > > What if astrology could be proven to have direct relationships with other metaphysical systems, such as numerology, the I Ching, Tarot, the Tree of Life, the Tzolkin, runes, and the Enneagram? ...<snip> |||||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| |||| Beno Beno Ji, Should that not be a given? Take a leaf for instance, an ordinary leaf. It can be described in botanical terms, physics terms, chemistry terms, zoology terms (little ants and instects crawling on the leaf), environmental science terms, metaphysical terms (kirilian photography or other similar wonderful terms), spiritual development terms (just focus on the black ant that is in samadhi in the middle of the deep green leaf -- or perhaps dead! and practice Trataka Kriya on it), gastronomical terms (if you are a caterpillar for instance), or criminal terms (if you are a drug dealer and the leaf belongs to a marijyana plant!) or a caterer (who needs to make 'pattals' out of leaves to provide to a marriage or shraddha catering) or .... the list goes on. If an ordinary leaf can be of so much personal interest to so many wonderful people, many scientists and others providing useful service to the society (other than the mary-jane dealer who in a sense provides employment and the reason to be for the Policeman if you think of it!) -- then how can one assume that the finest creation of God, Human being would be of not consuming interest for more than just astrologers or astrology? And by 'consuming interest', I DID NOT mean or imply - " a cash cow " as the derogatory expression goes, for the occultists. Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Sir, If you ask a modern scientist about the techniques used by older scientists or their understanding of Nature, you would hear similar statements that earlier scientists did not fully understand or really knew the details about how nature and natural systems work. They may not use the term 'hoax' but the common theme of 'degree of knowing' would be similar. In astrology, ironically, the opposite seems to be the case. We all are convinced that ancients astrologers were better and more perfect, although none of us has seen or read even a single analysis made by elders (I am talking about astrologers hundreds and thousands of years ago). It is easy to judge the contemporaries, particularly those who describe and write in details how they approach a chart and so on, and you may find such details more in books and articles and not so much on internet which is increasingly reminding me of turning into a hot frying pan and we all know what happens to a drop of water that falls on it, and how long it lasts. And the 'empty' frying pan continues to get hotter and hotter...! RR , Hari Malla <harimalla wrote: > > Dear Rohiniranjanji, > One of the relatives of astrology could be the evolution of life both plant and animals and anthropology too.Have you heard of evoltuion by the bioclock. This bioclock is what our ancestors have been calling as kalachakra. > Also in this category we can have physiology of animals and humans.The earth by its various motions produces life.Since astrology is the study of this earth motions, all that is created by it is the relative of astrology. > But one word of caution is if you search for the truth you will discover that astrology as it is practised now is 40 percent hoax.If you do not mind to accept that fact, then I could tell you more about this issue.Many astrologers do not want to hear the truth.Do you? > thanking you, > Sincerely yours, > Hari Malla > > > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani > > Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:19:01 AM > Re: If Astrology Had Relatives... > > > > > > , beno beno <mynameisbeno@ ...> wrote: > > > > What if astrology could be proven to have direct relationships with other metaphysical systems, such as numerology, the I Ching, Tarot, the Tree of Life, the Tzolkin, runes, and the Enneagram? ...<snip> > > |||||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| |||| > > Beno Beno Ji, > > Should that not be a given? > > Take a leaf for instance, an ordinary leaf. > > It can be described in botanical terms, physics terms, chemistry terms, zoology terms (little ants and instects crawling on the leaf), environmental science terms, metaphysical terms (kirilian photography or other similar wonderful terms), spiritual development terms (just focus on the black ant that is in samadhi in the middle of the deep green leaf -- or perhaps dead! and practice Trataka Kriya on it), gastronomical terms (if you are a caterpillar for instance), or criminal terms (if you are a drug dealer and the leaf belongs to a marijyana plant!) or a caterer (who needs to make 'pattals' out of leaves to provide to a marriage or shraddha catering) or .... the list goes on. > > If an ordinary leaf can be of so much personal interest to so many wonderful people, many scientists and others providing useful service to the society (other than the mary-jane dealer who in a sense provides employment and the reason to be for the Policeman if you think of it!) -- then how can one assume that the finest creation of God, Human being would be of not consuming interest for more than just astrologers or astrology? > > And by 'consuming interest', I DID NOT mean or imply - " a cash cow " as the derogatory expression goes, for the occultists. > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Of course you are right. Now PROVE it. That is what I did. Why do you not take a look? http://logos.13gems.com beno " If your words don't startle the crowd, you will fall into the streams of the commonplace. " --Blue Cliff Record (Ch'an [Zen] Buddhist scripture) --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani Re: If Astrology Had Relatives... Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:34 PM , beno beno <mynameisbeno@ ...> wrote: > > What if astrology could be proven to have direct relationships with other metaphysical systems, such as numerology, the I Ching, Tarot, the Tree of Life, the Tzolkin, runes, and the Enneagram? ...<snip> |||||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| |||| Beno Beno Ji, Should that not be a given? Take a leaf for instance, an ordinary leaf. It can be described in botanical terms, physics terms, chemistry terms, zoology terms (little ants and instects crawling on the leaf), environmental science terms, metaphysical terms (kirilian photography or other similar wonderful terms), spiritual development terms (just focus on the black ant that is in samadhi in the middle of the deep green leaf -- or perhaps dead! and practice Trataka Kriya on it), gastronomical terms (if you are a caterpillar for instance), or criminal terms (if you are a drug dealer and the leaf belongs to a marijyana plant!) or a caterer (who needs to make 'pattals' out of leaves to provide to a marriage or shraddha catering) or ... the list goes on. If an ordinary leaf can be of so much personal interest to so many wonderful people, many scientists and others providing useful service to the society (other than the mary-jane dealer who in a sense provides employment and the reason to be for the Policeman if you think of it!) -- then how can one assume that the finest creation of God, Human being would be of not consuming interest for more than just astrologers or astrology? And by 'consuming interest', I DID NOT mean or imply - " a cash cow " as the derogatory expression goes, for the occultists. Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Dear Beno Beno, If you already agree, publicly admit and accept that I am right, then why do you need proof ;-) RR , beno beno <mynameisbeno wrote: > > Of course you are right. Now PROVE it. That is what I did. Why do you not take a look? > http://logos.13gems.com > beno > > " If your words don't startle the crowd, you will fall into the streams of the commonplace. " --Blue Cliff Record (Ch'an [Zen] Buddhist scripture) > > --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani > Re: If Astrology Had Relatives... > > Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > , beno beno <mynameisbeno@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > What if astrology could be proven to have direct relationships with other metaphysical systems, such as numerology, the I Ching, Tarot, the Tree of Life, the Tzolkin, runes, and the Enneagram? ...<snip> > > > > |||||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| |||| > > > > Beno Beno Ji, > > > > Should that not be a given? > > > > Take a leaf for instance, an ordinary leaf. > > > > It can be described in botanical terms, physics terms, chemistry terms, zoology terms (little ants and instects crawling on the leaf), environmental science terms, metaphysical terms (kirilian photography or other similar wonderful terms), spiritual development terms (just focus on the black ant that is in samadhi in the middle of the deep green leaf -- or perhaps dead! and practice Trataka Kriya on it), gastronomical terms (if you are a caterpillar for instance), or criminal terms (if you are a drug dealer and the leaf belongs to a marijyana plant!) or a caterer (who needs to make 'pattals' out of leaves to provide to a marriage or shraddha catering) or ... the list goes on. > > > > If an ordinary leaf can be of so much personal interest to so many wonderful people, many scientists and others providing useful service to the society (other than the mary-jane dealer who in a sense provides employment and the reason to be for the Policeman if you think of it!) -- then how can one assume that the finest creation of God, Human being would be of not consuming interest for more than just astrologers or astrology? > > > > And by 'consuming interest', I DID NOT mean or imply - " a cash cow " as the derogatory expression goes, for the occultists. > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 There is such a thing called " science " , and science requires proof. Why don´t you check out my work, where I prove things? http://logos.13gems.com beno " If your words don't startle the crowd, you will fall into the streams of the commonplace. " --Blue Cliff Record (Ch'an [Zen] Buddhist scripture) --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani Re: If Astrology Had Relatives... Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 6:27 PM Dear Beno Beno, If you already agree, publicly admit and accept that I am right, then why do you need proof ;-) RR , beno beno <mynameisbeno@ ...> wrote: > > Of course you are right. Now PROVE it. That is what I did. Why do you not take a look? > http://logos. 13gems.com > beno > > " If your words don't startle the crowd, you will fall into the streams of the commonplace. " --Blue Cliff Record (Ch'an [Zen] Buddhist scripture) > > --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: If Astrology Had Relatives... > > Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , beno beno <mynameisbeno@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > What if astrology could be proven to have direct relationships with other metaphysical systems, such as numerology, the I Ching, Tarot, the Tree of Life, the Tzolkin, runes, and the Enneagram? ...<snip> > > > > |||||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| |||| > > > > Beno Beno Ji, > > > > Should that not be a given? > > > > Take a leaf for instance, an ordinary leaf. > > > > It can be described in botanical terms, physics terms, chemistry terms, zoology terms (little ants and instects crawling on the leaf), environmental science terms, metaphysical terms (kirilian photography or other similar wonderful terms), spiritual development terms (just focus on the black ant that is in samadhi in the middle of the deep green leaf -- or perhaps dead! and practice Trataka Kriya on it), gastronomical terms (if you are a caterpillar for instance), or criminal terms (if you are a drug dealer and the leaf belongs to a marijyana plant!) or a caterer (who needs to make 'pattals' out of leaves to provide to a marriage or shraddha catering) or ... the list goes on. > > > > If an ordinary leaf can be of so much personal interest to so many wonderful people, many scientists and others providing useful service to the society (other than the mary-jane dealer who in a sense provides employment and the reason to be for the Policeman if you think of it!) -- then how can one assume that the finest creation of God, Human being would be of not consuming interest for more than just astrologers or astrology? > > > > And by 'consuming interest', I DID NOT mean or imply - " a cash cow " as the derogatory expression goes, for the occultists. > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Beno, " Science " does not prove its statements only in secluded caves but everywhere! Why don't you place what you have to say <in summary> here if you want to attract readership! If you have something interesting to present, interested parties would seek the details where you urge us to visit ;-) Science became popular when scientists started speaking to all and not just to scientists in their special " caves " ! :-) Just a thought, a suggestion. It seems like you want us to believe that you have something important to share. Why not here ;-) RR , beno beno <mynameisbeno wrote: > > There is such a thing called " science " , and science requires proof. Why don´t you check out my work, where I prove things? > http://logos.13gems.com > beno > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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