Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 To All : Everyone knows that guaranteed accuracy in astrological prediction has never been achieved by any known astrologer. Hence, some persons are misunderstanding my claims of accuracy in Timing of Events by Kundalee software as a hoax. I need to explain some points in this regard, otherwise people may think man is not needed and machine can do all the jobs, which will never be possible in this field. Here I am illustrating the problem,according to Kundalee software, with the example of my mother's untimely death due to gas stove accident when I was 14 years old. In my horoscope, Vimshottari planets were Jup:Sat:Sat:Sun:Rah . How it came that this sequence in Vimshottari caused a fatal accident ? Jupiter was in moolatrikona and therefore highly auspicious. Jupiter was also the lord of 6th and 11th houses and therefore highly inauspicious. It was in yuti relation to Saturn. The relation was mutual enmity, hence Jupiter was bound to give only inauspicious result , auspicious results were reserved for ADs of friendly planets or for AD of Jupiter itself when I broke all time records in science subjects in Delhi school board exams. Saturn was lord of 4th house. Through yuti relation with Saturn, Jupiter was also related to 4th house. Sun inauspicious by dint of being loed of 11th house and was sitting in 4th house. Rahu was in 12th house, controlled by lordly aspect of a combust Mercury, hence Rahu was under the influence of Sun too. Hence, all these planets were inauspicious for 4th house. For topics of 4th house, we may look into three divisionals : 12th (parents), 16th (vehicle) and Hora (real estate & c). Among these, only D12 qualified as effective in my horoscope in which Jup:Sat:Sat:Sun:Rah were having killer effects : Jupiter as lord of 3 and 12 in 2nd house of its enemy Saturn as maarakesh in 7th, Sun as lord of 8th having yuti relation with a debilitated (neecha) Rahu. Moreover, these Vimshottari planets had maximum aspect on three houses 2, 4 and 7. In many horoscopes, I saw that proportion of aspects of current Vimshottari planets on a particular house determined the outcome. But in my D1, this was not the case in above example : current Vimshottari planets had little or no aspect on 4th house in D1, and the outcome was determined by planet sitting in that house or lording that house even without any aspect and having relation with these two types of planets. But when the cumulative result of current Vimshottari planets in D1 is combined with that of D12, the outcome is fatal for mother exactly in the sequence of current Vimshottari planets if their inauspiciousness is taken as a yardstick. Normally, I judge horoscopes with aspects and yutis, but I have earlier seen in mundane astrology that an auspicious lord caused very good rains in its house of lordship even with zero aspect on that adjacent house. Same thing happened in the case of my mother's death. Saturn owned 4th house and had zero aspect on it, but became effective in bringing about the event. If the total effect of current Vimshottari planets on all houses is counted as aspects plus full marks for a planet residing in a house, following houses in my horoscopes qualified for maximum effect of current Vimshottari planets then : 9, 7, 3, 6, 10, 11, 12th , 4th house being very low in ratings. Hence, even zero aspect of a lord on its house must be counted as at least 50% aspect !! A lord ought to have some prerogatives, although its exact magnitude is not clearly stated in texts. The reason why none of the highly aspected houses (9, 7, 3, 6, 10, 11, 12th) were ignited to cause any event then by current Vimshottari planets can be explained when we analyze the quality of influences , eg friendly or enmical aspect & c. MD-kaaraka Jupiter and SD-kaaraka Sun did not had enmical aspect on any of these highly aspected houses, while Saturn had enmical aspects on 3, 6, 7, 10 which lacked enmical aspect by Rahu, and Rahu had enmical aspect on 9 which had friendly aspect of Saturn. Hence, when these influences are added in D1, we conclude that none of the six highly aspected houses (9, 7, 3, 6, 10, 11, 12th) were going to give an inauspicious event which was expected in Saturn's AD under Jupiter's MD (due to mutual enmity of both). This is the reason why aspects failed to work and Saturn's ownership of 4th house even without aspect became a decisive factor in bringing about the event. In D12, current Vimshottari planets were killers, and in D1 they were highly inauspicious for 4th house. When we add oucomes of D1 and D12, the result is fatal for 4th house (not so bad in 16th and Hora, and we can conclude : fatal for mother). Now, the problem is what should be the sequence of these planets in Vimshottari to bring about mother's death ? Instead of Jupiter's MD and Saturn's AD, cannot we have the opposite sequence ? No, because Saturn is auspicious by dint of being lord of 4 ,5th houses, and it will not give fatal results even in its enemy Jupiter's AD. Five Vimshottari planets allow 4 types of AD, each AD allows 4 types of PD, and so on. Hence, we have 256 types of Praan dashas, 64 types of SD, 16 types of PD, 4 types of AD in 1 type of MD , a total of 341 combinations, and it is a herculean task to check which of these combinations would be most fatal for mother's death in this case, or for any event in general. This is one of the reasons why we err in making predictions spite of softwares. There is no software which can do these things. There are many types of planetary strengths, and a particular type of strength is used for a particular purpose. It is beyond the capabilities of any software developer to make a software taking into account all these imponderable things. But there is an easy way out. Check the varshphala and maasaphala during the period in question (not on Tadjik method which I do not use in spitye of its supposed efficacy, but on the basis of horoscopes drawn at the time of varsha-pravesha and maasa-pravesha according to solar returns). In the case of my mother's death, both these charts clearly indicated mother's death, which I am loathe to explain in detail due to requirement of brevity in message here. There is no software in the world which can do these things. Softwares give you charts which you have to analyze. There are so many possibilities to check and compare that even with the help of good softwares it is very difficult to make good predictions. Machine cannot replace Man in this sphere. But Kundalee software offers one advantage : with the combination of D1 and required one more divisional according to topic and varshaphala + maasaphala, you can make predictions which may be totally wrong or totally right depending upon the time you invest, but if prediction based made from Kundalee happens to be true, it will be 100% true and the timing will be 100% accurate in all cases, OR it will be 100% wrong if you erred in picking up the right path which machine cannot do : picking up a right path in the labyrinth of predictive astrology is your job, and not machine's. One astrologer said that Kundalee's only difference is in lunar year, which is also offered by some other softwares, like JHora or Sri Jyoti Star. But Suryasiddhantic Moon differs from physical Moon by wide margins which causes many years of differences in Vimshottari timings even if same year is chosen in all softwares. Only Kundalee's Vimshottari timings in combination with varshaphala will match with actual events in 100% cases, if such cases are analyzed after the event. But no astrologer in this forum is ready to test Kundalee in after the event analysis, which they are always doing with other softwares, and they ask me to predict an event, knowing full well that making accurate prediction is based upon many factors which no software can resolve. For instance, if the karma of native is very bad, he will not be allowed by God to get the benefit of accurate prediction, and will abuse away the astrologer even if there is any astrologer capable of making accurate predictions all the time ! Mundane astrology is a field in which subjective factors do not work. I am preparing comparative studies of major national/ international events based on Suryasiddhantic and physical methods, as well as biographical studies of notables, which will be scrutinized by public at large in future, after I am not here. 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Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Dear Vinay, I would like to experience Kundalee Predictions. Let me know ? Praveen Kumar On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > > To All : > > Everyone knows that guaranteed accuracy in astrological prediction has > never been achieved by any known astrologer. Hence, some persons are > misunderstanding my claims of accuracy in Timing of Events by Kundalee > software as a hoax. I need to explain some points in this regard, > otherwise people may think man is not needed and machine can do all the > jobs, which will never be possible in this field. Here I am illustrating > the problem,according to Kundalee software, with the example of my > mother's untimely death due to gas stove accident when I was 14 years > old. > > In my horoscope, Vimshottari planets were Jup:Sat:Sat:Sun:Rah . How it > came that this sequence in Vimshottari caused a fatal accident ? Jupiter > was in moolatrikona and therefore highly auspicious. Jupiter was also > the lord of 6th and 11th houses and therefore highly inauspicious. It > was in yuti relation to Saturn. The relation was mutual enmity, hence > Jupiter was bound to give only inauspicious result , auspicious results > were reserved for ADs of friendly planets or for AD of Jupiter itself > when I broke all time records in science subjects in Delhi school board > exams. > > Saturn was lord of 4th house. Through yuti relation with Saturn, Jupiter > was also related to 4th house. Sun inauspicious by dint of being loed of > 11th house and was sitting in 4th house. Rahu was in 12th house, > controlled by lordly aspect of a combust Mercury, hence Rahu was under > the influence of Sun too. Hence, all these planets were inauspicious for > 4th house. > > For topics of 4th house, we may look into three divisionals : 12th > (parents), 16th (vehicle) and Hora (real estate & c). Among these, only > D12 qualified as effective in my horoscope in which Jup:Sat:Sat:Sun:Rah > were having killer effects : Jupiter as lord of 3 and 12 in 2nd house of > its enemy Saturn as maarakesh in 7th, Sun as lord of 8th having yuti > relation with a debilitated (neecha) Rahu. Moreover, these Vimshottari > planets had maximum aspect on three houses 2, 4 and 7. > > In many horoscopes, I saw that proportion of aspects of current > Vimshottari planets on a particular house determined the outcome. But in > my D1, this was not the case in above example : current Vimshottari > planets had little or no aspect on 4th house in D1, and the outcome was > determined by planet sitting in that house or lording that house even > without any aspect and having relation with these two types of planets. > > But when the cumulative result of current Vimshottari planets in D1 is > combined with that of D12, the outcome is fatal for mother exactly in > the sequence of current Vimshottari planets if their inauspiciousness is > taken as a yardstick. > > Normally, I judge horoscopes with aspects and yutis, but I have earlier > seen in mundane astrology that an auspicious lord caused very good rains > in its house of lordship even with zero aspect on that adjacent house. > Same thing happened in the case of my mother's death. Saturn owned 4th > house and had zero aspect on it, but became effective in bringing about > the event. If the total effect of current Vimshottari planets on all > houses is counted as aspects plus full marks for a planet residing in a > house, following houses in my horoscopes qualified for maximum effect of > current Vimshottari planets then : 9, 7, 3, 6, 10, 11, 12th , 4th house > being very low in ratings. Hence, even zero aspect of a lord on its > house must be counted as at least 50% aspect !! A lord ought to have > some prerogatives, although its exact magnitude is not clearly stated in > texts. The reason why none of the highly aspected houses (9, 7, 3, 6, > 10, 11, 12th) were ignited to cause any event then by current > Vimshottari planets can be explained when we analyze the quality of > influences , eg friendly or enmical aspect & c. MD-kaaraka Jupiter and > SD-kaaraka Sun did not had enmical aspect on any of these highly > aspected houses, while Saturn had enmical aspects on 3, 6, 7, 10 which > lacked enmical aspect by Rahu, and Rahu had enmical aspect on 9 which > had friendly aspect of Saturn. Hence, when these influences are added in > D1, we conclude that none of the six highly aspected houses (9, 7, 3, 6, > 10, 11, 12th) were going to give an inauspicious event which was > expected in Saturn's AD under Jupiter's MD (due to mutual enmity of > both). This is the reason why aspects failed to work and Saturn's > ownership of 4th house even without aspect became a decisive factor in > bringing about the event. > > In D12, current Vimshottari planets were killers, and in D1 they were > highly inauspicious for 4th house. When we add oucomes of D1 and D12, > the result is fatal for 4th house (not so bad in 16th and Hora, and we > can conclude : fatal for mother). > > Now, the problem is what should be the sequence of these planets in > Vimshottari to bring about mother's death ? Instead of Jupiter's MD and > Saturn's AD, cannot we have the opposite sequence ? No, because Saturn > is auspicious by dint of being lord of 4 ,5th houses, and it will not > give fatal results even in its enemy Jupiter's AD. Five Vimshottari > planets allow 4 types of AD, each AD allows 4 types of PD, and so on. > Hence, we have 256 types of Praan dashas, 64 types of SD, 16 types of > PD, 4 types of AD in 1 type of MD , a total of 341 combinations, and it > is a herculean task to check which of these combinations would be most > fatal for mother's death in this case, or for any event in general. This > is one of the reasons why we err in making predictions spite of > softwares. There is no software which can do these things. There are > many types of planetary strengths, and a particular type of strength is > used for a particular purpose. It is beyond the capabilities of any > software developer to make a software taking into account all these > imponderable things. > > But there is an easy way out. Check the varshphala and maasaphala during > the period in question (not on Tadjik method which I do not use in > spitye of its supposed efficacy, but on the basis of horoscopes drawn at > the time of varsha-pravesha and maasa-pravesha according to solar > returns). In the case of my mother's death, both these charts clearly > indicated mother's death, which I am loathe to explain in detail due to > requirement of brevity in message here. > > There is no software in the world which can do these things. Softwares > give you charts which you have to analyze. There are so many > possibilities to check and compare that even with the help of good > softwares it is very difficult to make good predictions. Machine cannot > replace Man in this sphere. But Kundalee software offers one advantage : > with the combination of D1 and required one more divisional according to > topic and varshaphala + maasaphala, you can make predictions which may > be totally wrong or totally right depending upon the time you invest, > but if prediction based made from Kundalee happens to be true, it will > be 100% true and the timing will be 100% accurate in all cases, OR it > will be 100% wrong if you erred in picking up the right path which > machine cannot do : picking up a right path in the labyrinth of > predictive astrology is your job, and not machine's. > > One astrologer said that Kundalee's only difference is in lunar year, > which is also offered by some other softwares, like JHora or Sri Jyoti > Star. But Suryasiddhantic Moon differs from physical Moon by wide > margins which causes many years of differences in Vimshottari timings > even if same year is chosen in all softwares. Only Kundalee's > Vimshottari timings in combination with varshaphala will match with > actual events in 100% cases, if such cases are analyzed after the event. > But no astrologer in this forum is ready to test Kundalee in after the > event analysis, which they are always doing with other softwares, and > they ask me to predict an event, knowing full well that making accurate > prediction is based upon many factors which no software can resolve. For > instance, if the karma of native is very bad, he will not be allowed by > God to get the benefit of accurate prediction, and will abuse away the > astrologer even if there is any astrologer capable of making accurate > predictions all the time ! Mundane astrology is a field in which > subjective factors do not work. I am preparing comparative studies of > major national/ international events based on Suryasiddhantic and > physical methods, as well as biographical studies of notables, which > will be scrutinized by public at large in future, after I am not here. > > Thanks ! > > -Vinay Jha. > > The advantag > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Download freeware Kundalee from http://kundalee.wikidot.com/ ________________________________ Praveen Agrawal <pkumar24 Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:24:16 AM Re: Accurate Predictiion : Man vs Machine Dear Vinay, I would like to experience Kundalee Predictions. Let me know ? Praveen Kumar On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > To All : > > Everyone knows that guaranteed accuracy in astrological prediction has > never been achieved by any known astrologer. Hence, some persons are > misunderstanding my claims of accuracy in Timing of Events by Kundalee > software as a hoax. I need to explain some points in this regard, > otherwise people may think man is not needed and machine can do all the > jobs, which will never be possible in this field. Here I am illustrating > the problem,according to Kundalee software, with the example of my > mother's untimely death due to gas stove accident when I was 14 years > old. > > In my horoscope, Vimshottari planets were Jup:Sat:Sat: Sun:Rah . How it > came that this sequence in Vimshottari caused a fatal accident ? Jupiter > was in moolatrikona and therefore highly auspicious. Jupiter was also > the lord of 6th and 11th houses and therefore highly inauspicious. It > was in yuti relation to Saturn. The relation was mutual enmity, hence > Jupiter was bound to give only inauspicious result , auspicious results > were reserved for ADs of friendly planets or for AD of Jupiter itself > when I broke all time records in science subjects in Delhi school board > exams. > > Saturn was lord of 4th house. Through yuti relation with Saturn, Jupiter > was also related to 4th house. Sun inauspicious by dint of being loed of > 11th house and was sitting in 4th house. Rahu was in 12th house, > controlled by lordly aspect of a combust Mercury, hence Rahu was under > the influence of Sun too. Hence, all these planets were inauspicious for > 4th house. > > For topics of 4th house, we may look into three divisionals : 12th > (parents), 16th (vehicle) and Hora (real estate & c). Among these, only > D12 qualified as effective in my horoscope in which Jup:Sat:Sat: Sun:Rah > were having killer effects : Jupiter as lord of 3 and 12 in 2nd house of > its enemy Saturn as maarakesh in 7th, Sun as lord of 8th having yuti > relation with a debilitated (neecha) Rahu. Moreover, these Vimshottari > planets had maximum aspect on three houses 2, 4 and 7. > > In many horoscopes, I saw that proportion of aspects of current > Vimshottari planets on a particular house determined the outcome. But in > my D1, this was not the case in above example : current Vimshottari > planets had little or no aspect on 4th house in D1, and the outcome was > determined by planet sitting in that house or lording that house even > without any aspect and having relation with these two types of planets. > > But when the cumulative result of current Vimshottari planets in D1 is > combined with that of D12, the outcome is fatal for mother exactly in > the sequence of current Vimshottari planets if their inauspiciousness is > taken as a yardstick. > > Normally, I judge horoscopes with aspects and yutis, but I have earlier > seen in mundane astrology that an auspicious lord caused very good rains > in its house of lordship even with zero aspect on that adjacent house. > Same thing happened in the case of my mother's death. Saturn owned 4th > house and had zero aspect on it, but became effective in bringing about > the event. If the total effect of current Vimshottari planets on all > houses is counted as aspects plus full marks for a planet residing in a > house, following houses in my horoscopes qualified for maximum effect of > current Vimshottari planets then : 9, 7, 3, 6, 10, 11, 12th , 4th house > being very low in ratings. Hence, even zero aspect of a lord on its > house must be counted as at least 50% aspect !! A lord ought to have > some prerogatives, although its exact magnitude is not clearly stated in > texts. The reason why none of the highly aspected houses (9, 7, 3, 6, > 10, 11, 12th) were ignited to cause any event then by current > Vimshottari planets can be explained when we analyze the quality of > influences , eg friendly or enmical aspect & c. MD-kaaraka Jupiter and > SD-kaaraka Sun did not had enmical aspect on any of these highly > aspected houses, while Saturn had enmical aspects on 3, 6, 7, 10 which > lacked enmical aspect by Rahu, and Rahu had enmical aspect on 9 which > had friendly aspect of Saturn. Hence, when these influences are added in > D1, we conclude that none of the six highly aspected houses (9, 7, 3, 6, > 10, 11, 12th) were going to give an inauspicious event which was > expected in Saturn's AD under Jupiter's MD (due to mutual enmity of > both). This is the reason why aspects failed to work and Saturn's > ownership of 4th house even without aspect became a decisive factor in > bringing about the event. > > In D12, current Vimshottari planets were killers, and in D1 they were > highly inauspicious for 4th house. When we add oucomes of D1 and D12, > the result is fatal for 4th house (not so bad in 16th and Hora, and we > can conclude : fatal for mother). > > Now, the problem is what should be the sequence of these planets in > Vimshottari to bring about mother's death ? Instead of Jupiter's MD and > Saturn's AD, cannot we have the opposite sequence ? No, because Saturn > is auspicious by dint of being lord of 4 ,5th houses, and it will not > give fatal results even in its enemy Jupiter's AD. Five Vimshottari > planets allow 4 types of AD, each AD allows 4 types of PD, and so on. > Hence, we have 256 types of Praan dashas, 64 types of SD, 16 types of > PD, 4 types of AD in 1 type of MD , a total of 341 combinations, and it > is a herculean task to check which of these combinations would be most > fatal for mother's death in this case, or for any event in general. This > is one of the reasons why we err in making predictions spite of > softwares. There is no software which can do these things. There are > many types of planetary strengths, and a particular type of strength is > used for a particular purpose. It is beyond the capabilities of any > software developer to make a software taking into account all these > imponderable things. > > But there is an easy way out. Check the varshphala and maasaphala during > the period in question (not on Tadjik method which I do not use in > spitye of its supposed efficacy, but on the basis of horoscopes drawn at > the time of varsha-pravesha and maasa-pravesha according to solar > returns). In the case of my mother's death, both these charts clearly > indicated mother's death, which I am loathe to explain in detail due to > requirement of brevity in message here. > > There is no software in the world which can do these things. Softwares > give you charts which you have to analyze. There are so many > possibilities to check and compare that even with the help of good > softwares it is very difficult to make good predictions. Machine cannot > replace Man in this sphere. But Kundalee software offers one advantage : > with the combination of D1 and required one more divisional according to > topic and varshaphala + maasaphala, you can make predictions which may > be totally wrong or totally right depending upon the time you invest, > but if prediction based made from Kundalee happens to be true, it will > be 100% true and the timing will be 100% accurate in all cases, OR it > will be 100% wrong if you erred in picking up the right path which > machine cannot do : picking up a right path in the labyrinth of > predictive astrology is your job, and not machine's. > > One astrologer said that Kundalee's only difference is in lunar year, > which is also offered by some other softwares, like JHora or Sri Jyoti > Star. But Suryasiddhantic Moon differs from physical Moon by wide > margins which causes many years of differences in Vimshottari timings > even if same year is chosen in all softwares. Only Kundalee's > Vimshottari timings in combination with varshaphala will match with > actual events in 100% cases, if such cases are analyzed after the event. > But no astrologer in this forum is ready to test Kundalee in after the > event analysis, which they are always doing with other softwares, and > they ask me to predict an event, knowing full well that making accurate > prediction is based upon many factors which no software can resolve. For > instance, if the karma of native is very bad, he will not be allowed by > God to get the benefit of accurate prediction, and will abuse away the > astrologer even if there is any astrologer capable of making accurate > predictions all the time ! Mundane astrology is a field in which > subjective factors do not work. I am preparing comparative studies of > major national/ international events based on Suryasiddhantic and > physical methods, as well as biographical studies of notables, which > will be scrutinized by public at large in future, after I am not here. > > Thanks ! > > -Vinay Jha. > > The advantag > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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