SERIOUS HORARY PRASHNA or just a whim posted in passing?

[Guest guest]

Dear RR ji,

 

Internet Jyotish is not serious Jyotish which is why I have my own methods of

finding genuinity of the querist on the Group where I control.

 

In face to face Jyotish it is understood that any person coming to us would be

serious otherwise he would not be spending money as Fees (Which I charge ).

 

For the rest of the queries of course we have, as you may be aware in both

systems Traditional and KP, pointers in form of the Moon which relays the

seriousness of the Querist by display of link to the Karaka and Karyasiddhi

planets in the Prashna chart, and also the planets in the 7th house.

 

I am for one, using them even otherwise whenever making Prashna charts but never

tell the Querists so. That I do for my own study and to marvel at the greatness

of this science which somehow always shows the link required.

 

And on some Jyotish Groups where even you are a part of, you know nobody cares

for the sincerity of the querist or the Query. There are 20 astrologers to jump

on the Query as soon as it comes, which is allowed by the CEO of that Group. Do

you think any sincerity can be there in the astrologers too over there.Forget

the Querist.

 

It may be difficult to change what other astrologers are doing ,but we can

always make a change by setting an example, which I have done to the best of my

ability, where the Querists learns to respect the astrologer, and if he cannot,

then he is put out of my sight.

 

For those who may be new here, the pointers to check the genuinity of a Query

are the basics of Prashna Jyotish.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

In , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> I have taken the liberty of just presenting the portion of your message that

caught my attention and I wish to address...

>

> Please do not take this as criticism, that it is not.

>

> Unlike 3-dimensional face to face setting of clients visiting, asking queries

and getting answers -- the model around which prashna jyotish nirnaya is built

from ancient times -- the internet reality has an added dimension of different

time zones and spatial distances between nativity and jyotishi and times of

postings and so on and let me not mince words! There is a oft-voiced problem

with the seriousness of intent of the posting and query, for a variety of

reasons.

>

> I think that the prashna horoscope should first be examined regarding the

genuineness of the query and the querrant. The sincerity that is unquestionable

in natal astrology where the child is real and undeniably so!

>

> And I ask this not just to you but all the Horary jyotishis experienced and

experts: What are some of the astro-pointers they use in traditional horary or

KP to first establish that the INTERNET-POSTED query is serious, sincere,

genuine - so that they do not waste their valuable time?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> ><snip>...

> > This is the Divine help one receives when the query is genuine.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> > <snip>...

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar bhai,

 

Thanks for taking the time. Sadly, while your posting that addresses the

sociological aspects of the problem of sincerity and seriousness, that is a

given as my published articles on internet, cyberastrology and so on have

already addressed. I wrote those articles so, that part I already know and most

others too I am sure or perhaps I should say, I hope they do!

 

My question was specifically aimed at KP methodology and how in that system is

the genuinity and sincerity of the query estimated or examined through

astrological means?

 

Due to the serial nature of the internet forums even if my question would appear

to give the impression that I am asking the question to you, I am not asking the

question to you alone! Anyone who has been practicing KP or Prashnas is more

than welcome to respond and with each answer and perspective we all will learn

and improve our knowledge and service!

 

I hope that makes sense to all...

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear RR ji,

>

> Internet Jyotish is not serious Jyotish which is why I have my own methods of

finding genuinity of the querist on the Group where I control.

>

> In face to face Jyotish it is understood that any person coming to us would be

serious otherwise he would not be spending money as Fees (Which I charge ).

>

> For the rest of the queries of course we have, as you may be aware in both

systems Traditional and KP, pointers in form of the Moon which relays the

seriousness of the Querist by display of link to the Karaka and Karyasiddhi

planets in the Prashna chart, and also the planets in the 7th house.

>

> I am for one, using them even otherwise whenever making Prashna charts but

never tell the Querists so. That I do for my own study and to marvel at the

greatness of this science which somehow always shows the link required.

>

> And on some Jyotish Groups where even you are a part of, you know nobody cares

for the sincerity of the querist or the Query. There are 20 astrologers to jump

on the Query as soon as it comes, which is allowed by the CEO of that Group. Do

you think any sincerity can be there in the astrologers too over there.Forget

the Querist.

>

> It may be difficult to change what other astrologers are doing ,but we can

always make a change by setting an example, which I have done to the best of my

ability, where the Querists learns to respect the astrologer, and if he cannot,

then he is put out of my sight.

>

> For those who may be new here, the pointers to check the genuinity of a Query

are the basics of Prashna Jyotish.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> In , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > I have taken the liberty of just presenting the portion of your message that

caught my attention and I wish to address...

> >

> > Please do not take this as criticism, that it is not.

> >

> > Unlike 3-dimensional face to face setting of clients visiting, asking

queries and getting answers -- the model around which prashna jyotish nirnaya is

built from ancient times -- the internet reality has an added dimension of

different time zones and spatial distances between nativity and jyotishi and

times of postings and so on and let me not mince words! There is a oft-voiced

problem with the seriousness of intent of the posting and query, for a variety

of reasons.

> >

> > I think that the prashna horoscope should first be examined regarding the

genuineness of the query and the querrant. The sincerity that is unquestionable

in natal astrology where the child is real and undeniably so!

> >

> > And I ask this not just to you but all the Horary jyotishis experienced and

experts: What are some of the astro-pointers they use in traditional horary or

KP to first establish that the INTERNET-POSTED query is serious, sincere,

genuine - so that they do not waste their valuable time?

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > ><snip>...

> > > This is the Divine help one receives when the query is genuine.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > <snip>...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri RRji,

 

Of course I know you are a old hand at Jyotish and you personally do not need

answers for such basic queries which is why i did not go into detailed answers

for what you asked. It is understood that you are asking for general benefit of

all.

 

There is not much difference in KP and Traditional Parashari as KP is the cream

and Parashari is the Milk, so coming from it, the basics rules remain same, but

undergo variation half way. In case of judging sincerity of the query,we take

normally the Moon SublOrd and the ascendant SubLord representing the pointers

for genuinity. Thats all. If this is connected to the houses regarding which

query is made, then the query is genuine otherwise not. And the planets like

Saturn etc placed in the 7th - the rules remain same for Traditional as well as

for KP. Except here we take the Placidus house division Cuspal Chart and there

they take the Khokha Kundli or Natal Chart.

 

But nowadays I tell You Shri RRji, if one knows he has to pay money as Fees,

then he will automatically come only with a genuine query and not otherwise. In

case once in a blue Moon someone comes just to check, then the intuition of the

astrologer should be developed enough to guide him that this man coming to meet

him has got something fishy and better beware. In Internet Jyotish nobody has

the time to look for genuinity and such stuff, as most astrologers out here are

just using the Groups for showcasing their abilities for marketing and better

business prospects including myself. I do have a difference though, Apart from

the commercial aspect I am also interested in collecting blessings which give

more than money.And also interested in making real astrologers from those who

try hard all their Life predicting through Khokha Kundlis but cannot and remain

helpless. I further wish to share my knowledge received from my Gurus and allow

these helpless astrologers to know the real techniques of prediction so that

they are complete. So was my Guru, and so do I wish to become.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar bhai,

>

> Thanks for taking the time. Sadly, while your posting that addresses the

sociological aspects of the problem of sincerity and seriousness, that is a

given as my published articles on internet, cyberastrology and so on have

already addressed. I wrote those articles so, that part I already know and most

others too I am sure or perhaps I should say, I hope they do!

>

> My question was specifically aimed at KP methodology and how in that system is

the genuinity and sincerity of the query estimated or examined through

astrological means?

>

> Due to the serial nature of the internet forums even if my question would

appear to give the impression that I am asking the question to you, I am not

asking the question to you alone! Anyone who has been practicing KP or Prashnas

is more than welcome to respond and with each answer and perspective we all will

learn and improve our knowledge and service!

>

> I hope that makes sense to all...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RR ji,

> >

> > Internet Jyotish is not serious Jyotish which is why I have my own methods

of finding genuinity of the querist on the Group where I control.

> >

> > In face to face Jyotish it is understood that any person coming to us would

be serious otherwise he would not be spending money as Fees (Which I charge ).

> >

> > For the rest of the queries of course we have, as you may be aware in both

systems Traditional and KP, pointers in form of the Moon which relays the

seriousness of the Querist by display of link to the Karaka and Karyasiddhi

planets in the Prashna chart, and also the planets in the 7th house.

> >

> > I am for one, using them even otherwise whenever making Prashna charts but

never tell the Querists so. That I do for my own study and to marvel at the

greatness of this science which somehow always shows the link required.

> >

> > And on some Jyotish Groups where even you are a part of, you know nobody

cares for the sincerity of the querist or the Query. There are 20 astrologers to

jump on the Query as soon as it comes, which is allowed by the CEO of that

Group. Do you think any sincerity can be there in the astrologers too over

there.Forget the Querist.

> >

> > It may be difficult to change what other astrologers are doing ,but we can

always make a change by setting an example, which I have done to the best of my

ability, where the Querists learns to respect the astrologer, and if he cannot,

then he is put out of my sight.

> >

> > For those who may be new here, the pointers to check the genuinity of a

Query are the basics of Prashna Jyotish.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > I have taken the liberty of just presenting the portion of your message

that caught my attention and I wish to address...

> > >

> > > Please do not take this as criticism, that it is not.

> > >

> > > Unlike 3-dimensional face to face setting of clients visiting, asking

queries and getting answers -- the model around which prashna jyotish nirnaya is

built from ancient times -- the internet reality has an added dimension of

different time zones and spatial distances between nativity and jyotishi and

times of postings and so on and let me not mince words! There is a oft-voiced

problem with the seriousness of intent of the posting and query, for a variety

of reasons.

> > >

> > > I think that the prashna horoscope should first be examined regarding the

genuineness of the query and the querrant. The sincerity that is unquestionable

in natal astrology where the child is real and undeniably so!

> > >

> > > And I ask this not just to you but all the Horary jyotishis experienced

and experts: What are some of the astro-pointers they use in traditional horary

or KP to first establish that the INTERNET-POSTED query is serious, sincere,

genuine - so that they do not waste their valuable time?

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > ><snip>...

> > > > This is the Divine help one receives when the query is genuine.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > <snip>...

> > >

> >

>