Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Dear Friends, If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and also the ascendant degrees for same. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Jaya Radhe! Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. Best Regards, Saunaka , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Fantastic! Now Sergey do you have the birth data and bio for the dog, or even his astro chart? best wishes M - Sergey Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM Re: Chart of Russia. Jaya Radhe! Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. Best Regards, Saunaka , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... - Sergey Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM Re: Chart of Russia. Jaya Radhe! Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. Best Regards, Saunaka , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Jay Radhe, Thanks. This will help. regards/Bhaskar. , " Sergey " <awish.master wrote: > > Jaya Radhe! > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > Best Regards, > Saunaka > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) Best regards, Saunaka , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > - > Sergey > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > Best Regards, > Saunaka > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hi Saunaka I just spent some time translating the article you posted a link to. It is very interesting to read Russian jyotish chart readings and especially that KN Rao is also mentioned. I didn't find the dog's chart again, do you have a direct link to the article? Thank you margie - Sergey Friday, April 10, 2009 12:36 PM Re: Chart of Russia. You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) Best regards, Saunaka , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > - > Sergey > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > Best Regards, > Saunaka > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I am not much educated in these matters and terminology used " Dogs " which I cannot understand. Can someone exp,lain me how is this connected to russias chart ? regards/Bhaskar. , " Sergey " <awish.master wrote: > > You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= > > Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) > > Best regards, > Saunaka > > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > > > - > > Sergey > > > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > > > Best Regards, > > Saunaka > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Oh and I wanted to say I agree with you that we should read ethnic charts ( I would call these founding charts) to look at the whole of the country or city, not just political data for political events. We can only get political info if we don;'t use the proper ethnic/founding charts. Thank you for the ethnic chart of 8th Sept 1380 but which city or longitude and latitude and timezone are you using for this please? best wishes Marg - Sergey Friday, April 10, 2009 12:36 PM Re: Chart of Russia. You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) Best regards, Saunaka , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > - > Sergey > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > Best Regards, > Saunaka > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 > Thank you for the ethnic chart of 8th Sept 1380 but which city or longitude and latitude and timezone are you using for this please? Really it is longitude of Kulikovo field, approx. 51n40 39e10 )) Timezone - LMT, sunrise is a good natural time for this case. The arguments for such approach one can find in Lev Gumilev works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumilev,_Lev Best regards, Saunaka , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Oh and I wanted to say I agree with you that we should read ethnic charts ( I would call these founding charts) to look at the whole of the country or city, not just political data for political events. We can only get political info if we don;'t use the proper ethnic/founding charts. > Thank you for the ethnic chart of 8th Sept 1380 but which city or longitude and latitude and timezone are you using for this please? > best wishes > Marg > - > Sergey > > Friday, April 10, 2009 12:36 PM > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= > > Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) > > Best regards, > Saunaka > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > > > - > > Sergey > > > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > > > Best Regards, > > Saunaka > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Thank you - Sergey Friday, April 10, 2009 2:05 PM Re: Chart of Russia. > Thank you for the ethnic chart of 8th Sept 1380 but which city or longitude and latitude and timezone are you using for this please? Really it is longitude of Kulikovo field, approx. 51n40 39e10 )) Timezone - LMT, sunrise is a good natural time for this case. The arguments for such approach one can find in Lev Gumilev works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumilev,_Lev Best regards, Saunaka , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Oh and I wanted to say I agree with you that we should read ethnic charts ( I would call these founding charts) to look at the whole of the country or city, not just political data for political events. We can only get political info if we don;'t use the proper ethnic/founding charts. > Thank you for the ethnic chart of 8th Sept 1380 but which city or longitude and latitude and timezone are you using for this please? > best wishes > Marg > - > Sergey > > Friday, April 10, 2009 12:36 PM > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= > > Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) > > Best regards, > Saunaka > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > > > - > > Sergey > > > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > > > Best Regards, > > Saunaka > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I guess, that here " Dogs " is a kind of slang, joke, but having only a part of joke )) Some consider, that States by it's consciousness " level " behave like animals (Viktor Pelevin), while others see States as demonic entities by nature, for example Daniil Andreev in his " The Rose of the World " : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniil_Andreyev Really, as you may know, in India Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu avioded to communicate with kings for alike reasons. ))) Jaya Radhe! , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > I am not much educated in these matters and terminology used " Dogs " which I cannot understand. Can someone exp,lain me how is this connected to russias chart ? > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Sergey " <awish.master@> wrote: > > > > You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= > > > > Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) > > > > Best regards, > > Saunaka > > > > > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > > > > > - > > > Sergey > > > > > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > > > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > > > > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > > > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > > > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Saunaka > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Hi In actual fact, the dog referred to was the one in the picture next to the information about Russia's chart, found via the link given in the post with Russia's chart data. Nothing more sinister than that:O) best wishes M - Sergey Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:53 AM Re: Chart of Russia. I guess, that here " Dogs " is a kind of slang, joke, but having only a part of joke )) Some consider, that States by it's consciousness " level " behave like animals (Viktor Pelevin), while others see States as demonic entities by nature, for example Daniil Andreev in his " The Rose of the World " : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniil_Andreyev Really, as you may know, in India Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu avioded to communicate with kings for alike reasons. ))) Jaya Radhe! , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > I am not much educated in these matters and terminology used " Dogs " which I cannot understand. Can someone exp,lain me how is this connected to russias chart ? > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Sergey " <awish.master@> wrote: > > > > You can use Google to translate from russian, for instance " dog's " chart http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t & hl=ru & ie=UTF-8 & u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomm\ unity.livejournal.com%2Fru_jyotish%2F32036.html & sl=ru & tl=en & history_state0= > > > > Really this is not my analysis of the Chart of Russia. Moreower, I consider the more right way to deal with charts for ethnoses instead of countries, i.e. chart on 8 sep 1380 for russians - a good vimsottary dasha coinsidence take place. ))) > > > > Best regards, > > Saunaka > > > > > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > > > Whoops Just seen your wonderful delineation of dog's chart, excellent, I now have to learn Russian, will take a long time till I can read it:0) Shame I have no Russian translators nearby, will need to find out who I know locally who reads Russian............... > > > > > > - > > > Sergey > > > > > > Friday, April 10, 2009 11:29 AM > > > Re: Chart of Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Radhe! > > > > > > Discussion of the Russian Chart: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_jyotish/32036.html > > > Date of the independance declaration: 12 June 1990 13:45 PM Moscow, Zone = +4 (3+DST) > > > Newertheless, real date for the russian ethnos birth should be 8 Sep 1380 at sunrise - time of Kulikov battle. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Saunaka > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > If anyone has the Chart of Russia, then please give the details , and > > > > also the ascendant degrees for same. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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