Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

[Guest guest]

 

Hi John,

Don't you think that 'mutual reception' can divert things, cover up..?-like

seemingly 'weak' appearing as actual strength in disguise, etc.

Not bad for economy I'd say.

Regards,

Anna  

 

 

 

 

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John <jr_esq

 

Friday, March 27, 2009 6:21:22 PM

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

 

Namaste Balasubramaniam,

 

The transit of Mars in Cancer is the cyclical time to beware of natural

disasters that occur in one's geographical area in the world. For the Far East

and South Asia, this is usually the time when typhoons, tsunamis and earthquakes

would occur.

 

In North America, the USA is usually plagued by the hurricanes that have

devastated the city of New Orleans and other metropolitan centers in the area.

 

So, the mutual aspect of Mars and Jupiter, both of whom are neechas, could

heigthen the danger of these natural disasters for the world in general.

 

As a precautionary measures, the emergency units in these areas should be

alerted to the possibility of these areas in order to avert any confusion that

resulted in many deaths in New Orleans, Louisiana, USA a few years ago.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

, Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46

> wrote:

>

> Namaste Shri John,

>  

>             Kindly enlighten me what will happen to present position of Neech

Jupiter when Mars also transits in Cancer in early October - its sign of 

debilitation. Jupiter and Mars will be in samasaptama. .It seems that Mars shall

be in that position for more than two months..   Whether there is any correction

for this confusion.

>  

> with regards

> SRB

>

> --- On Fri, 27/3/09, John <jr_esq wrote:

>

>

> John <jr_esq

> Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

>

> Friday, 27 March, 2009, 2:18 AM

Namaste Marg,

>

> The problem now for the USA and the world is the apparent recession and

probable depression. At the present time, the responsible economists should be

devising ways and strategies to counter the effects of the problem. Based on the

theory of Keynes, it is advisable for the government to take steps to correct

the situation by massive spending programs.

>

> Somewhere down the line, inflation may occur. But that can be addressed later

when the time comes.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

>

> , " Marg " <margie9@ > wrote:

> >

> > Thought financial wizards might enjoy this analysis of the markets using

tropical astrology, it's taken from Ray Merriman who publishes a book on the

subject every year

> > Review and Preview

> > The " Sagittarius Factor " of last Monday through Wednesday corresponded with

huge price swings in many financial and commodity markets, most notably

Treasuries, currencies, and precious metals. Gold, for instance, was trading at

882 on Wednesday, its lowest level since January. By early Friday, it was up to

967.80, an appreciation of 10% in less than 48 hours. Silver's move was even

more spectacular, as it fell to 1189 the same day, also its lowest level since

January. At the close of trading on Friday, it was up to 1384, a gain of 16.4%.

But if you are a currency trader, you had to be stunned by the surge in the Euro

currency and Swiss Franc against the U.S. Dollar.. Since its low of 1.2455 on

March 4, the Euro currency soared to 1.3737 on March 19 (last Thursday). The

Swiss Franc surged from a low of .8356 against the U.S. Dollar on March 12 to a

high of .8980 just one week later. These are huge movements for currencies.

Similar moves were noted in

the

> longer-term Treasuries and Notes. Grains and Crude Oil also enjoyed healthy

price increases last week, with Crude trading above 52.00 for the first time

since November. This fits with last week's report, which stated, " For this

coming week, the most notable celestial event we take interest in is the

" Sagittarius Factor " of Monday-Wednesday. It oftentimes coincides with very

sharp price movements - and reversals - in many financial markets, but

especially in precious metals, currencies, and Treasuries. " Yet the amplitude of

these moves was even more impressive than expected, for reasons discussed below.

> >

> > Equity markets were not quite as exciting. The rallies which started from

the lows of March 6-10 (as Venus turned retrograde) continued into last week.

After rising 10-20% in that brief amount of time, many of these indices started

pulling back as the week wore on. In the case of the Dow Jones Industrial

Average, for example, the low of March 6 at 6470 stalled out last Wednesday,

March 18, at 7571. That represents an impressive gain of 1100 points and 17% in

just 8 trading days. But by Friday, it had given back 300 of those points. We

now wait for next week to see if this will be just a " normal " corrective decline

in a new bull market, or the resumption of the bear market.

> >

> > Short-Term Geocosmics

> > We are out of the dream-like, surreal, period of Pisces. It's officially

springtime now. As discussed a few weeks ago, this new season may come in with a

bang. After all, the first non-lunar aspect made as we begin spring will be the

Sun square Pluto on Monday, March 23. This will also end the " translation " of

the Sun to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto developing T-square, which was in force

March 8-23. Once again, this translation wasn't as bad for stocks as was the

case in 2008. In fact, equities have been mostly higher during this period. The

question is: will they continue to rally? Or will they reverse sharply down now

that the " translation " is ending?

> >

> > The answer may be influenced by Venus retrograde, which is also in effect

now. In fact, it lasts much longer, since it started March 6 and doesn't end

until April 17. It is not unusual to see a market making a multi-month high or

low nearby to Venus turning retrograde, and then reverse in the opposite

direction until the time its motion returns direct. If the Venus retrograde is

more powerful than the Sun's translation to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto T-square,

then the market should continue its rally for a few more weeks before taking out

the low of March 6-10. If not, we may see the bear market resuming. With Pluto

in the picture as the spring equinox begins, the focus is once again on debt,

for Pluto rules debt, death, and taxes. The aspects that are present at the time

of seasonal change tend to describe themes that are most highlighted for the

whole of that season. This week is not only the start of the new season, but

also a new moon, which will

form

> the same square to Pluto. Spring is supposed to be the season of romance and

love, and bright new hopes for the future. But with Pluto so prominent, it may

be more like " tough love. " Such a geocosmic set up can be prone to serious power

plays in which there is little mercy for the weak. This is not a time when the

" weak shall inherit the earth. " What they inherit may be more debt, and more

demands to pay up (like the AIG executives who received those bonuses). They are

more prone to be forced into foreclosure or bankruptcy, and sudden changes of

life style they didn't plan for.

> >

> > Longer-Term Thoughts

> > The Venus retrograde effect was in full force last week. Not only did the

stock market continue its rise from March 6, but the Central Banks did indeed

announce new policies that had a direct impact on all interest-rate related

markets (i.e. Treasuries and currencies). This is what generally happens during

Venus retrograde - central banks make new policies or change old ones, and

markets react with great volatility and large price swings. One week ago, the

Swiss Central Bank lowered its key interest rate, and the Swiss Franc feel to a

new three-month low against the U.S. Dollar (the Euro currency did not, for a

case of intermarket bullish divergence). Then this past Wednesday, March 18, the

U.S. Federal Reserve announced a plan to purchase $300 Billion in Treasuries,

which forced the long-term bond rate to levels not seen in decades. The 10-year

Treasury Notes dropped form 3+% to 2.53% and 30-year mortgage rates fell to

4.75%. At the same time, the

> value of the U.S. Dollar plummeted, as other currencies surged up against it.

The Fed is printing money with a zeal seldom - if ever - seen before. In all,

the Fed will stimulate the economy to the tune over $1 trillion more, on top of

the White House's massive multi-trillion spending programs already launched in

the past few weeks.

> >

> > Yes, they are serious about getting this economy back on strong footing. But

they also risk the dark side of the forthcoming Jupiter-Neptune conjunction,

which is inflation. You may remember last summer the Federal deficit was

projected to be $500 billion this year. Then it was raised to $800 billion

towards the end of last year, and then $1.2 trillion early this year. This week,

it is now estimated to rise to $1.8 trillion. This phenomenon where the budget

deficit " .will rise much greater than anyone expects " was discussed in detail in

the year's Forecast 2009 Book, along with the likely ramifications.

> >

> > Jupiter and Neptune are in Aquarius, and Uranus is in Pisces, creating a

very rare astrological phenomenon known as a mutual reception. It has only

happened twice in the past 3000 years, the last time being 1843. With Jupiter

and Neptune together (May-July 2009 is the strongest part of this aspect), the

dynamics tend to be inflationary. But with Uranus involved, the risk is not a

" gradual " return to inflation, but a Uranian " sudden and unexpected dramatic "

return.

> >

> > Is there really a risk here? Chairman Bernanke recently said there is no

risk of inflation in the foreseeable future. But remember: he has the

Sun-Jupiter opposition natally at 21 Sagittarius- Gemini. Transiting Uranus is

hovering around 21 degrees of Pisces, in T-square to his Sun-Jupiter opposition,

and all in mutable signs. This is not a signature usually related to accurate

forecasting skills, or good judgment. The risk is over-estimating (or grossly

under-estimating) the effect of one's actions. That is why transiting Uranus in

hard aspect to natal Jupiter is one of the classical bankruptcy aspects in

astrology. It is not that one cannot make money during these times, for often

one makes a lot of money. But when and how these individuals choose to spend or

invest (or speculate) their money oftentimes involves a risk that is far more

serious than they thought, and it results in larger losses than expected. In

this case, the decision could quite

> easily result in a sudden increase in inflation that was not foreseen, with

the next result requiring a sudden jump in interest rates that thwarts the

economic recovery.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

 Dear Marg, John, everyone,

 

I am interested in your opinion- with so much newly printed money in circulation

USdollar will inevitably loose its value- in general /inflation/ and

comparatively (if Europe doesn't follow the trend suggesting, as China has

already done,  new definition of financial system/currency change). Ju/Ne brings

confusion/frustration and tensions with Sa/Ma in the pic.

It doesn't seem that the mess created now on the world level, will be cleared

out easily: Ju opposition Sa, loong weary transit is awaiting, just around the

corner.  Signature for depression, but resolution after painful and long

'turning point' as well.

That leads to 2011, at best.

 

Anna

 

 

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Namaste Anna,

 

The US Federal Reserve Board is keeping a very close watch with the statistical

numbers relating to inflation and deflation. They control the supply of money

to fine tune the US economy. If they print new money, I'm sure its for a

particular purpose. It's most likely related to the stimulus package to jump

start the beleaguered economy.

 

As we read in the newspaper, the US government has committed trillions of

dollars for this stimulus package, well beyond the government income from taxes.

As such, we are technically in a deficit spending mode, which adds more burden

to the national debt.

 

After the economy gets healthier, the American people will eventually have to

address this deficit spending and national debt. If not addressed, this country

will surely collapse beyond relief.

 

At this time, the US government is running on its innate economic power or

potential. For the short term, this might be enough to carry over the present

economic downturn.

 

From an astrological point of view, we need to stop worrying about the potential

negativity of the present situation. In my opinion, we need to trust that

Jupiter will continue its benefic function after it exits out of Capricorn. We

can look forward to a better time when Jupiter gets stronger in its own house of

Pisces. As the Bible states, " To everyting, there is a time and purpose under

heaven. "

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, sar108 <bona_mente wrote:

>

>

>  Dear Marg, John, everyone,

>

> I am interested in your opinion- with so much newly printed money in

circulation USdollar will inevitably loose its value- in general /inflation/ and

comparatively (if Europe doesn't follow the trend suggesting, as China has

already done,  new definition of financial system/currency change). Ju/Ne brings

confusion/frustration and tensions with Sa/Ma in the pic.

> It doesn't seem that the mess created now on the world level, will be cleared

out easily: Ju opposition Sa, loong weary transit is awaiting, just around the

corner.  Signature for depression, but resolution after painful and long

'turning point' as well.

> That leads to 2011, at best.

>

> Anna

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear John,

 

You've addressed fears of many, nicely-thanks.

Astrologically, Ju/Sa opposition we will be facing doesn't promise much- where

Jupiter expands, Sa shrinks- or say, limits too much too fast a growth-and some

wisdom may occur? /with Ju/Sa signature of B.Obama- I guess those born in

crucial phases of Ju/Sa will be most affected!/

You see, I am trying hard to be more positive.

 

Fears, as you said, won't help- our prayers may. Good Luck Everyone!

Best wishes,

Anna 

 

 

--- On Sat, 3/28/09, John <jr_esq wrote:

 

 

John <jr_esq

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

Received: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 4:15 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Anna,

 

The US Federal Reserve Board is keeping a very close watch with the statistical

numbers relating to inflation and deflation. They control the supply of money to

fine tune the US economy. If they print new money, I'm sure its for a particular

purpose. It's most likely related to the stimulus package to jump start the

beleaguered economy.

 

As we read in the newspaper, the US government has committed trillions of

dollars for this stimulus package, well beyond the government income from taxes.

As such, we are technically in a deficit spending mode, which adds more burden

to the national debt.

 

After the economy gets healthier, the American people will eventually have to

address this deficit spending and national debt. If not addressed, this country

will surely collapse beyond relief.

 

At this time, the US government is running on its innate economic power or

potential. For the short term, this might be enough to carry over the present

economic downturn.

 

From an astrological point of view, we need to stop worrying about the potential

negativity of the present situation. In my opinion, we need to trust that

Jupiter will continue its benefic function after it exits out of Capricorn. We

can look forward to a better time when Jupiter gets stronger in its own house of

Pisces. As the Bible states, " To everyting, there is a time and purpose under

heaven. "

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

, sar108 <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:

>

>

>  Dear Marg, John, everyone,

>

> I am interested in your opinion- with so much newly printed money in

circulation USdollar will inevitably loose its value- in general /inflation/ and

comparatively (if Europe doesn't follow the trend suggesting, as China has

already done,  new definition of financial system/currency change). Ju/Ne brings

confusion/frustrati on and tensions with Sa/Ma in the pic.

> It doesn't seem that the mess created now on the world level, will be cleared

out easily: Ju opposition Sa, loong weary transit is awaiting, just around the

corner.  Signature for depression, but resolution after painful and long

'turning point' as well.

> That leads to 2011, at best.

>

> Anna

>

>

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[Guest guest]

HI Anna, John and everyone

On another group I visit the same subject is being discussed, and 2010 seems to

be showing some concern due to Jupiter then being with planet Uranus---in

spiration or dire instability, while opposite Saturn.

Pluto is in Capricorn, natural sign of government and all seems to be adding up

to a change in the way governments govern.

I don't think the recession is an accident to be honest, I think it has been

deliberately engineered---Jupiter with Neptune, and is a tool for change by

powers wanting to seize global control. It's democracy we should be worried

about losing, not our money, but our freedoms.

best wishes

M

 

 

 

-

sar108

Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:05 AM

Re: Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

 

 

Dear Marg, John, everyone,

 

I am interested in your opinion- with so much newly printed money in

circulation USdollar will inevitably loose its value- in general /inflation/ and

comparatively (if Europe doesn't follow the trend suggesting, as China has

already done, new definition of financial system/currency change). Ju/Ne brings

confusion/frustration and tensions with Sa/Ma in the pic.

It doesn't seem that the mess created now on the world level, will be cleared

out easily: Ju opposition Sa, loong weary transit is awaiting, just around the

corner. Signature for depression, but resolution after painful and long

'turning point' as well.

That leads to 2011, at best.

 

Anna

 

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