Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

[Guest guest]

To All:

 

By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the slowdown

in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that the USA

has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great Depression) in

funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is equivalent to a

war against the worlwide recession.

 

So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

 

Regards,

 

JR

[Guest guest]

Hi John

Do you think Saturn in Leo also lends a hand to the downturn in wealth? Also as

Sun is about to go into exaltation, do you think this might mean gold goes up in

price, and should we all go sell our rings and bracelets to make the most of it?

best wishes M

-

John

Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM

Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

 

To All:

 

By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the slowdown

in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that the USA has

committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great Depression) in

funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is equivalent to a

war against the worlwide recession.

 

So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Marg,

 

The transit of Saturn in Leo (signifying royalty or governments) has created

some havoc for some governments. In particular, the Bush administration

(Republicans) was voted out of office in the USA. Also, the government of

Iceland went bankrupt due to the world financial crisis.

 

Based on the recent behaviour of the USA stock market, it appears that it's

ready to move up again. So, the transit of Surya in Mesha (the 5th house in the

USA natal chart) should be fairly good for the USA stocks. However, the

optimism may not be sustained since Surya only retains its exalted status for

one month in Aries.

 

IMHO, gold price may go down since the transit would create an oversupply of

gold in the market.

 

In general, the governments of the world, including the USA, are taking the

appropriate steps to combat the effects of the global recession. In macro

economics, it is advisable for governments to initiate the expenditures through

work projects, including the bail out of banks, to spark the confidence of the

people and the economy.

 

Due to the effects of Jupiter's debilitation, the people of the world are still

stunned and wary of the economic future of their own financial institutions.

Given time, the future looks promising after Jupiter exits out of Makara.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Hi John

> Do you think Saturn in Leo also lends a hand to the downturn in wealth? Also

as Sun is about to go into exaltation, do you think this might mean gold goes up

in price, and should we all go sell our rings and bracelets to make the most of

it?

> best wishes M

> -

> John

>

> Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM

> Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

>

>

> To All:

>

> By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the

slowdown in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that

the USA has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great

Depression) in funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is

equivalent to a war against the worlwide recession.

>

> So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi John

Thanks for the expanded version, really interesting. BAVA(British Vedic group)

are delivering seminars on financial astrology next month, sounds good actually.

 

I seem to be getting a lot of business people wanting readings, and of course it

would be good to be able to know more about the financial side of things to pass

on to them.

best wishes

M

-

John

Monday, March 23, 2009 7:54 PM

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

 

Namaste Marg,

 

The transit of Saturn in Leo (signifying royalty or governments) has created

some havoc for some governments. In particular, the Bush administration

(Republicans) was voted out of office in the USA. Also, the government of

Iceland went bankrupt due to the world financial crisis.

 

Based on the recent behaviour of the USA stock market, it appears that it's

ready to move up again. So, the transit of Surya in Mesha (the 5th house in the

USA natal chart) should be fairly good for the USA stocks. However, the optimism

may not be sustained since Surya only retains its exalted status for one month

in Aries.

 

IMHO, gold price may go down since the transit would create an oversupply of

gold in the market.

 

In general, the governments of the world, including the USA, are taking the

appropriate steps to combat the effects of the global recession. In macro

economics, it is advisable for governments to initiate the expenditures through

work projects, including the bail out of banks, to spark the confidence of the

people and the economy.

 

Due to the effects of Jupiter's debilitation, the people of the world are

still stunned and wary of the economic future of their own financial

institutions. Given time, the future looks promising after Jupiter exits out of

Makara.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Hi John

> Do you think Saturn in Leo also lends a hand to the downturn in wealth? Also

as Sun is about to go into exaltation, do you think this might mean gold goes up

in price, and should we all go sell our rings and bracelets to make the most of

it?

> best wishes M

> -

> John

>

> Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM

> Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

>

>

> To All:

>

> By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the

slowdown in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that

the USA has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great

Depression) in funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is

equivalent to a war against the worlwide recession.

>

> So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear John,

 

Jupiter goes neecha every 12 years or so. Why is this time so special?

 

When Jupiter (sidereal of course!) approached its point of maximum debility --

the world witnessed a MAJOR PARADIGM SHIFT!

 

RR

 

, " John " <jr_esq wrote:

>

> To All:

>

> By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the slowdown

in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that the USA

has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great Depression) in

funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is equivalent to a

war against the worlwide recession.

>

> So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

>

[Guest guest]

Dear John, RRji, Marg and all,

 

Jupiter is not the lone crusader of the changing scenario, otherwise the

same situation would emerge every twelfth year, as RR ji also says. The

stage was set in the beginning of the year when Jupiter joined Rahu in

Makar, and mars followed. The jup-mar-rah in with two eclipses in Makar has

triggered this situation. Rashi lord Saturn in leo in 8th from makar also

indicating the change.

 

*I am glad to share one of my messages posted on another list in

mid-December.*

 

1747 was the year when Ra-Ju-Ma conjunction last happened in capricorn, some

250 years ago. A landmark year in the history, as it gave rise to a new

world order when Nadir Shah was assassinated and Afghanistan liberated

itself from the Mughal empire and with its very strategic location paved the

way to a lot of happenings in the period that followed. In 1747, Jupiter

Rahu conjunction only had a close brush of 3-4 days with mars in Capricorn.

While Rahu and Jupiter entered Capricorn from opposite sides, mars was

preparing to leave.

 

We also saw British rule establish in India in 1747 when after real invasion

through sea route in Cuddapore, the Bristish were able to loosen the strong

hold of French in Podicherry and later in the year, the whole of company

forces arrived in India to take charge, and we witnessed their (as a result

our) transformation… from a Trading company to a Ruling company. By now

everyone knew how to conquer India. With the weak native forces and more

disciplined invaders, India became an easy catch with their divide and rule

policy.

 

It was again the conjunction of Rahu-Jup-mars in 1857, but this time in

pisces (jup is better equipped), which started the mutiny to bring a new

order.

 

However, now in 2009, with the long-stay-triple-whammy in Capricorn,

sandwiched between the 2008-09 eclipses, with Saturn in 8H from it, does

have story to tell. A new world order is sure in sight and we already have

the first ever ‘Black’ Obama assume the office of the US President on

January 20, 2009.

 

What about India? We are still as vulnerable, as we were. We have not learnt

our lessons. The separatist forces still find us an easy prey. How do we see

this conjunction for India now? The solar eclipse of 26th January 2009 will

be at mid 12-13 degrees of Capricorn. Thus highlighting the rashi, and

conjunction even more. A laser beam pointer wants us to read the writing on

the wall.

 

India is running Venus MD, who is the lord of disputes in 3H, which more or

less signifies hidden enemies of neighbourly types. Ketu antar signifies

outcast and placed in the seventh house of war and foreign affairs is not

good and has proved so many a times.

 

Coming to the transits, Rahu and mars will have the decision-making power as

ketu the antar lord is in scorpio, martian sign and aspects Rahu in lagna.

Mars is exalted and digbali in Capricorn and as 7L and 12L in 9H, it can

start a process whereby we have a soft invasion with a spate of foreign

policies and treaties to fight our internal communal weaknesses and

terrorism. We have forgotten to solve our problems ourselves. It is ironical

that we see a foreign hand in creating problems for us and we seek foreign

hand in solving our problems!! With a weak Jupiter (karak for national

wisdom) in 9H, it is bound to get overpowered by the mighty 7/12 forces and

India with its weak governance (12H from 10th) will get overpowered by

foreign forces which will have long term implications in changing the state

of the nation. What about the US-nuclear thrust?

 

Since we are in a rashi ant and waiting for a new dawn with Sun’s dasha, and

not to miss the Leo saturn, I am hopeful that this new order would prove

good for masses and we might see an emergence of a leader from the opposite

side who can become the ‘KING OF MASSES’ (4H and sun).

 

Hope this will be useful.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Rohini Ranjan,

 

This particular cycle of Jupiter is unique in that it coincided with a sensitive

dasha in the USA natal chart. Using the Dhanus lagna for the USA chart, it

recently change into the mahadasha of Mars, which is the lord of the 5th and the

12th houses. Since Mars is located in the 7th house, we have a bhadaka

situation for the planet. Ordinarily, the period should have given positive

results in the 5th house. However, due to the bhadaka situation, the negative

aspect (the 12th house) of Mars came into fruition.

 

Thus, we have witnessed the trillions of dollars lost from home loans and their

derivatives, and the meltdown of stock prices in Wall Street. Since the USA

economy is considered to be the strongest in the world, its financial meltdown

similarly affected the economies of the world.

 

In my opinion, this financial crisis is due to the cumulative effect of the wars

in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush and his advisors made such a ghastly mistake in

making a decision to invade Iraq. By doing so, the economy of the USA was

focused on supporting the military-industrial complex. The economy failed to

sustain the welfare of its citizens, in particular the housing market, domestic

jobs, and consumer goods. Thus, the American economy collapsed for all intent

and purposes due to the burden of the expenditures for the wars in the Middle

East.

 

There is more to this discussion. But I'll stop here for brevity.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, we should give the American voters credit for electing a Democratic

ticket to run the country. If the Republicans had stayed in the White House,

the USA would been involved in a war with another country, most likely Iran.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear John,

>

> Jupiter goes neecha every 12 years or so. Why is this time so special?

>

> When Jupiter (sidereal of course!) approached its point of maximum debility --

the world witnessed a MAJOR PARADIGM SHIFT!

>

> RR

>

> , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> >

> > To All:

> >

> > By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the

slowdown in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that

the USA has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great

Depression) in funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is

equivalent to a war against the worlwide recession.

> >

> > So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > JR

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Neelam, John and everyone

Very interesting to read the analysis below

I do think that Saturn in Leo is a factor not to be overlooked as you say.

Ruling Makara and dispositing Jupiter, it does limit further the expansion

and prosperity Jupiter would normally bring if it wasn't so restricted.

I also see Saturn in Leo as one factor involved in the market crashes, as

Leo is the sign of stocks shares, and gambling and gold store and saving

reserves? Saturn was in Leo during the early 1920's when money was also in

short supply and caused the huge recession everyone is currently trying to

avoid.

Jupiter was exalted around the start of the recession, but not powerful

enough to offset the repression of Saturn in Leo.

I like the image of Saturn in Leo being the government taking over the

control of the banks also. I think more banks than Iceland have brought

their countries to their knees. Venus must play a part too do you think?

The recession was announced as the deepest yet around the beginning of the

year when Sun, Jupiter and Saturn were in exchange also, and this was the

time when our bankers in Europe were being reviled, scourged and sacked.

The US has announced trillions are to be pumped into the economy to stop it

from failing, all this while Sun-government conjoins Venus exalted in final

sign of the zodiac--endings---trying to avoid dissolution of the world

economy.

For the UK chart and nations generally, using Aries asc, Saturn aspects

Taurus, the natural sign of the combined wealth of a nation, and gives a

restraining influence, while Jupiter's aspect on Taurus shows losses, but

also some providential aid in the form of governments using unorthodox

(Rahu with Jupiter) methods to try and pump up the economy?

I agree with the idea of a whole new world order coming into play with power

shifts which have been deliberately engineered, but by who?

In August this year the sun will join Saturn in Leo, an asset freeze effect

do you think?

Like to hear others views on this

best wishes

M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

" neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07

 

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:00 AM

Re: Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

 

Dear John, RRji, Marg and all,

 

Jupiter is not the lone crusader of the changing scenario, otherwise the

same situation would emerge every twelfth year, as RR ji also says. The

stage was set in the beginning of the year when Jupiter joined Rahu in

Makar, and mars followed. The jup-mar-rah in with two eclipses in Makar has

triggered this situation. Rashi lord Saturn in leo in 8th from makar also

indicating the change.

 

*I am glad to share one of my messages posted on another list in

mid-December.*

 

1747 was the year when Ra-Ju-Ma conjunction last happened in capricorn, some

250 years ago. A landmark year in the history, as it gave rise to a new

world order when Nadir Shah was assassinated and Afghanistan liberated

itself from the Mughal empire and with its very strategic location paved the

way to a lot of happenings in the period that followed. In 1747, Jupiter

Rahu conjunction only had a close brush of 3-4 days with mars in Capricorn.

While Rahu and Jupiter entered Capricorn from opposite sides, mars was

preparing to leave.

 

We also saw British rule establish in India in 1747 when after real invasion

through sea route in Cuddapore, the Bristish were able to loosen the strong

hold of French in Podicherry and later in the year, the whole of company

forces arrived in India to take charge, and we witnessed their (as a result

our) transformation. from a Trading company to a Ruling company. By now

everyone knew how to conquer India. With the weak native forces and more

disciplined invaders, India became an easy catch with their divide and rule

policy.

 

It was again the conjunction of Rahu-Jup-mars in 1857, but this time in

pisces (jup is better equipped), which started the mutiny to bring a new

order.

 

However, now in 2009, with the long-stay-triple-whammy in Capricorn,

sandwiched between the 2008-09 eclipses, with Saturn in 8H from it, does

have story to tell. A new world order is sure in sight and we already have

the first ever 'Black' Obama assume the office of the US President on

January 20, 2009.

 

What about India? We are still as vulnerable, as we were. We have not learnt

our lessons. The separatist forces still find us an easy prey. How do we see

this conjunction for India now? The solar eclipse of 26th January 2009 will

be at mid 12-13 degrees of Capricorn. Thus highlighting the rashi, and

conjunction even more. A laser beam pointer wants us to read the writing on

the wall.

 

India is running Venus MD, who is the lord of disputes in 3H, which more or

less signifies hidden enemies of neighbourly types. Ketu antar signifies

outcast and placed in the seventh house of war and foreign affairs is not

good and has proved so many a times.

 

Coming to the transits, Rahu and mars will have the decision-making power as

ketu the antar lord is in scorpio, martian sign and aspects Rahu in lagna.

Mars is exalted and digbali in Capricorn and as 7L and 12L in 9H, it can

start a process whereby we have a soft invasion with a spate of foreign

policies and treaties to fight our internal communal weaknesses and

terrorism. We have forgotten to solve our problems ourselves. It is ironical

that we see a foreign hand in creating problems for us and we seek foreign

hand in solving our problems!! With a weak Jupiter (karak for national

wisdom) in 9H, it is bound to get overpowered by the mighty 7/12 forces and

India with its weak governance (12H from 10th) will get overpowered by

foreign forces which will have long term implications in changing the state

of the nation. What about the US-nuclear thrust?

 

Since we are in a rashi ant and waiting for a new dawn with Sun's dasha, and

not to miss the Leo saturn, I am hopeful that this new order would prove

good for masses and we might see an emergence of a leader from the opposite

side who can become the 'KING OF MASSES' (4H and sun).

 

Hope this will be useful.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Neelam,

 

Your analysis is very thorough. You've done good research which needed to prove

astrological principles.

 

As far as the USA getting involve in the affairs of India, I don't think the

Obama Administration is intending to spend any more time and expenditures in

foreign affairs or wars. The American electorate has spoken and elected

President Obama to end the war in Iraq and concentrate on the affairs more

beneficial to the citizens of the USA.

 

At this time, the USA deficit and national debt have been at the highest level

(in trillions of dollars!) since the inception of the American constitution.

The country is in a very precarious situation and could very well collapse if

the present situation is not corrected.

 

All of this trouble were caused by President Bush and his advisors. By the way,

Bush has a form of Kala Sarpa Yoga in his chart. So, guess what? He dragged

the US and the world into the mess we are in now.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

 

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear John, RRji, Marg and all,

>

> Jupiter is not the lone crusader of the changing scenario, otherwise the

> same situation would emerge every twelfth year, as RR ji also says. The

> stage was set in the beginning of the year when Jupiter joined Rahu in

> Makar, and mars followed. The jup-mar-rah in with two eclipses in Makar has

> triggered this situation. Rashi lord Saturn in leo in 8th from makar also

> indicating the change.

>

> *I am glad to share one of my messages posted on another list in

> mid-December.*

>

> 1747 was the year when Ra-Ju-Ma conjunction last happened in capricorn, some

> 250 years ago. A landmark year in the history, as it gave rise to a new

> world order when Nadir Shah was assassinated and Afghanistan liberated

> itself from the Mughal empire and with its very strategic location paved the

> way to a lot of happenings in the period that followed. In 1747, Jupiter

> Rahu conjunction only had a close brush of 3-4 days with mars in Capricorn.

> While Rahu and Jupiter entered Capricorn from opposite sides, mars was

> preparing to leave.

>

> We also saw British rule establish in India in 1747 when after real invasion

> through sea route in Cuddapore, the Bristish were able to loosen the strong

> hold of French in Podicherry and later in the year, the whole of company

> forces arrived in India to take charge, and we witnessed their (as a result

> our) transformation… from a Trading company to a Ruling company. By now

> everyone knew how to conquer India. With the weak native forces and more

> disciplined invaders, India became an easy catch with their divide and rule

> policy.

>

> It was again the conjunction of Rahu-Jup-mars in 1857, but this time in

> pisces (jup is better equipped), which started the mutiny to bring a new

> order.

>

> However, now in 2009, with the long-stay-triple-whammy in Capricorn,

> sandwiched between the 2008-09 eclipses, with Saturn in 8H from it, does

> have story to tell. A new world order is sure in sight and we already have

> the first ever `Black' Obama assume the office of the US President on

> January 20, 2009.

>

> What about India? We are still as vulnerable, as we were. We have not learnt

> our lessons. The separatist forces still find us an easy prey. How do we see

> this conjunction for India now? The solar eclipse of 26th January 2009 will

> be at mid 12-13 degrees of Capricorn. Thus highlighting the rashi, and

> conjunction even more. A laser beam pointer wants us to read the writing on

> the wall.

>

> India is running Venus MD, who is the lord of disputes in 3H, which more or

> less signifies hidden enemies of neighbourly types. Ketu antar signifies

> outcast and placed in the seventh house of war and foreign affairs is not

> good and has proved so many a times.

>

> Coming to the transits, Rahu and mars will have the decision-making power as

> ketu the antar lord is in scorpio, martian sign and aspects Rahu in lagna.

> Mars is exalted and digbali in Capricorn and as 7L and 12L in 9H, it can

> start a process whereby we have a soft invasion with a spate of foreign

> policies and treaties to fight our internal communal weaknesses and

> terrorism. We have forgotten to solve our problems ourselves. It is ironical

> that we see a foreign hand in creating problems for us and we seek foreign

> hand in solving our problems!! With a weak Jupiter (karak for national

> wisdom) in 9H, it is bound to get overpowered by the mighty 7/12 forces and

> India with its weak governance (12H from 10th) will get overpowered by

> foreign forces which will have long term implications in changing the state

> of the nation. What about the US-nuclear thrust?

>

> Since we are in a rashi ant and waiting for a new dawn with Sun's dasha, and

> not to miss the Leo saturn, I am hopeful that this new order would prove

> good for masses and we might see an emergence of a leader from the opposite

> side who can become the `KING OF MASSES' (4H and sun).

>

> Hope this will be useful.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that neither Jupiter in Capricorn , and neither Saturn in Leo,

can be attributed to the events mentioned .

 

What about the 27 nakshatras used in Indian astrology ? Do not they bear

any significance, or just all the effects world over have to be gauged

by Planets in Zodiac signs ? Astrology cannot be so simple.

 

The most authentic reference of Mundane astrology being governed by

Stars , can be found in our earliest texts (Bhishma Parva in

Mahabharata)which knowledge has not yet been made use of by the present

day astrologers. Instead all speculations are post martem results which

bear no confirmity of a similiar event taking place in future on a

particular date, which none of them can predict.

 

With regards to USA, who knows the exact time of signing of the

Declaration of Independence ? Apart from the common consensus that 4th

July 1776 is the Independence day , there are 3 Gemini ascendants

available ( With nobody to authenticate the correct one) 8.47 degrees,

7.35 degrees, and 20.11 degrees. There is one more opinion which says

that 13.32 degrees of Libra is the correct Ascendant .

 

Different degrees do mean something, and not just Gemini or Libra

ascendant .

 

Because different degrees will carry different constellation owners

which change the whole characteristics of the nativity or the Mundane

chart and may overlap the qualities of the Ascendant or transform them.

 

So there is more to it, rather than Saturn in Leo, or Jupiter in

Capricorn or just these 2 Transits. If at all somebody is using just

these 2 Planets, prominently then he must not forget to use Herschel

too.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

wrote:

>

> Dear John, RRji, Marg and all,

>

> Jupiter is not the lone crusader of the changing scenario, otherwise

the

> same situation would emerge every twelfth year, as RR ji also says.

The

> stage was set in the beginning of the year when Jupiter joined Rahu in

> Makar, and mars followed. The jup-mar-rah in with two eclipses in

Makar has

> triggered this situation. Rashi lord Saturn in leo in 8th from makar

also

> indicating the change.

>

> *I am glad to share one of my messages posted on another list in

> mid-December.*

>

> 1747 was the year when Ra-Ju-Ma conjunction last happened in

capricorn, some

> 250 years ago. A landmark year in the history, as it gave rise to a

new

> world order when Nadir Shah was assassinated and Afghanistan liberated

> itself from the Mughal empire and with its very strategic location

paved the

> way to a lot of happenings in the period that followed. In 1747,

Jupiter

> Rahu conjunction only had a close brush of 3-4 days with mars in

Capricorn.

> While Rahu and Jupiter entered Capricorn from opposite sides, mars was

> preparing to leave.

>

> We also saw British rule establish in India in 1747 when after real

invasion

> through sea route in Cuddapore, the Bristish were able to loosen the

strong

> hold of French in Podicherry and later in the year, the whole of

company

> forces arrived in India to take charge, and we witnessed their (as a

result

> our) transformation… from a Trading company to a Ruling company.

By now

> everyone knew how to conquer India. With the weak native forces and

more

> disciplined invaders, India became an easy catch with their divide and

rule

> policy.

>

> It was again the conjunction of Rahu-Jup-mars in 1857, but this time

in

> pisces (jup is better equipped), which started the mutiny to bring a

new

> order.

>

> However, now in 2009, with the long-stay-triple-whammy in Capricorn,

> sandwiched between the 2008-09 eclipses, with Saturn in 8H from it,

does

> have story to tell. A new world order is sure in sight and we already

have

> the first ever `Black' Obama assume the office of the US

President on

> January 20, 2009.

>

> What about India? We are still as vulnerable, as we were. We have not

learnt

> our lessons. The separatist forces still find us an easy prey. How do

we see

> this conjunction for India now? The solar eclipse of 26th January 2009

will

> be at mid 12-13 degrees of Capricorn. Thus highlighting the rashi, and

> conjunction even more. A laser beam pointer wants us to read the

writing on

> the wall.

>

> India is running Venus MD, who is the lord of disputes in 3H, which

more or

> less signifies hidden enemies of neighbourly types. Ketu antar

signifies

> outcast and placed in the seventh house of war and foreign affairs is

not

> good and has proved so many a times.

>

> Coming to the transits, Rahu and mars will have the decision-making

power as

> ketu the antar lord is in scorpio, martian sign and aspects Rahu in

lagna.

> Mars is exalted and digbali in Capricorn and as 7L and 12L in 9H, it

can

> start a process whereby we have a soft invasion with a spate of

foreign

> policies and treaties to fight our internal communal weaknesses and

> terrorism. We have forgotten to solve our problems ourselves. It is

ironical

> that we see a foreign hand in creating problems for us and we seek

foreign

> hand in solving our problems!! With a weak Jupiter (karak for national

> wisdom) in 9H, it is bound to get overpowered by the mighty 7/12

forces and

> India with its weak governance (12H from 10th) will get overpowered by

> foreign forces which will have long term implications in changing the

state

> of the nation. What about the US-nuclear thrust?

>

> Since we are in a rashi ant and waiting for a new dawn with Sun's

dasha, and

> not to miss the Leo saturn, I am hopeful that this new order would

prove

> good for masses and we might see an emergence of a leader from the

opposite

> side who can become the `KING OF MASSES' (4H and sun).

>

> Hope this will be useful.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, John. What is the epoch/location that you are

using for USA natal chart?

 

RR

 

, " John " <jr_esq wrote:

>

> Namaste Rohini Ranjan,

>

> This particular cycle of Jupiter is unique in that it coincided with a

sensitive dasha in the USA natal chart. Using the Dhanus lagna for the USA

chart, it recently change into the mahadasha of Mars, which is the lord of the

5th and the 12th houses. Since Mars is located in the 7th house, we have a

bhadaka situation for the planet. Ordinarily, the period should have given

positive results in the 5th house. However, due to the bhadaka situation, the

negative aspect (the 12th house) of Mars came into fruition.

>

> Thus, we have witnessed the trillions of dollars lost from home loans and

their derivatives, and the meltdown of stock prices in Wall Street. Since the

USA economy is considered to be the strongest in the world, its financial

meltdown similarly affected the economies of the world.

>

> In my opinion, this financial crisis is due to the cumulative effect of the

wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush and his advisors made such a ghastly mistake

in making a decision to invade Iraq. By doing so, the economy of the USA was

focused on supporting the military-industrial complex. The economy failed to

sustain the welfare of its citizens, in particular the housing market, domestic

jobs, and consumer goods. Thus, the American economy collapsed for all intent

and purposes due to the burden of the expenditures for the wars in the Middle

East.

>

> There is more to this discussion. But I'll stop here for brevity.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

Actually, we should give the American voters credit for electing a Democratic

ticket to run the country. If the Republicans had stayed in the White House,

the USA would been involved in a war with another country, most likely Iran.

>

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear John,

> >

> > Jupiter goes neecha every 12 years or so. Why is this time so special?

> >

> > When Jupiter (sidereal of course!) approached its point of maximum debility

-- the world witnessed a MAJOR PARADIGM SHIFT!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > >

> > > To All:

> > >

> > > By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the

slowdown in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that

the USA has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great

Depression) in funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is

equivalent to a war against the worlwide recession.

> > >

> > > So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks

bright when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming

December 2009.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > JR

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji and others,

 

*Just for information:*

 

Sh KN Rao is convinced about Leo rising for US on the 4th of July 1776 at

Philadelphia.

 

His detailed article and reasoning may be seen at:

http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?category_id=3 & article_id=184

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

2009/3/25 Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani

 

> Thanks for sharing your thoughts, John. What is the epoch/location that

> you are using for USA natal chart?

>

>

> RR

>

> <%40>,

> " John " <jr_esq wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Rohini Ranjan,

> >

> > This particular cycle of Jupiter is unique in that it coincided with a

> sensitive dasha in the USA natal chart. Using the Dhanus lagna for the USA

> chart, it recently change into the mahadasha of Mars, which is the lord of

> the 5th and the 12th houses. Since Mars is located in the 7th house, we have

> a bhadaka situation for the planet. Ordinarily, the period should have given

> positive results in the 5th house. However, due to the bhadaka situation,

> the negative aspect (the 12th house) of Mars came into fruition.

> >

> > Thus, we have witnessed the trillions of dollars lost from home loans and

> their derivatives, and the meltdown of stock prices in Wall Street. Since

> the USA economy is considered to be the strongest in the world, its

> financial meltdown similarly affected the economies of the world.

> >

> > In my opinion, this financial crisis is due to the cumulative effect of

> the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush and his advisors made such a ghastly

> mistake in making a decision to invade Iraq. By doing so, the economy of the

> USA was focused on supporting the military-industrial complex. The economy

> failed to sustain the welfare of its citizens, in particular the housing

> market, domestic jobs, and consumer goods. Thus, the American economy

> collapsed for all intent and purposes due to the burden of the expenditures

> for the wars in the Middle East.

> >

> > There is more to this discussion. But I'll stop here for brevity.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > JR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Actually, we should give the American voters credit for electing a

> Democratic ticket to run the country. If the Republicans had stayed in the

> White House, the USA would been involved in a war with another country, most

> likely Iran.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > <%40>,

> " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear John,

> > >

> > > Jupiter goes neecha every 12 years or so. Why is this time so special?

> > >

> > > When Jupiter (sidereal of course!) approached its point of maximum

> debility -- the world witnessed a MAJOR PARADIGM SHIFT!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > <%40>,

> " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > To All:

> > > >

> > > > By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the

> slowdown in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice

> that the USA has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the

> Great Depression) in funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this

> commitment is equivalent to a war against the worlwide recession.

> > > >

> > > > So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks

> bright when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this

> coming December 2009.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > JR

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste RR,

 

Based on a research performed by James Kelleher, a California jyotishi, the USA

birth data is shown below:

 

July 4, 1776

18:30 hrs

Philadelphia, PA USA

Time Zone 5

 

You should come up with a Dhanus lagna. Most American jyotishis recognize this

chart to be appropriate to represent the USA historical events.

 

I realize that Shri KN Rao and other jyotishis have a different opinion about

this matter. But I don't want to get into that debate.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Thanks for sharing your thoughts, John. What is the epoch/location that you

are using for USA natal chart?

>

> RR

>

> , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Rohini Ranjan,

> >

> > This particular cycle of Jupiter is unique in that it coincided with a

sensitive dasha in the USA natal chart. Using the Dhanus lagna for the USA

chart, it recently change into the mahadasha of Mars, which is the lord of the

5th and the 12th houses. Since Mars is located in the 7th house, we have a

bhadaka situation for the planet. Ordinarily, the period should have given

positive results in the 5th house. However, due to the bhadaka situation, the

negative aspect (the 12th house) of Mars came into fruition.

> >

> > Thus, we have witnessed the trillions of dollars lost from home loans and

their derivatives, and the meltdown of stock prices in Wall Street. Since the

USA economy is considered to be the strongest in the world, its financial

meltdown similarly affected the economies of the world.

> >

> > In my opinion, this financial crisis is due to the cumulative effect of the

wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush and his advisors made such a ghastly mistake

in making a decision to invade Iraq. By doing so, the economy of the USA was

focused on supporting the military-industrial complex. The economy failed to

sustain the welfare of its citizens, in particular the housing market, domestic

jobs, and consumer goods. Thus, the American economy collapsed for all intent

and purposes due to the burden of the expenditures for the wars in the Middle

East.

> >

> > There is more to this discussion. But I'll stop here for brevity.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > JR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Actually, we should give the American voters credit for electing a

Democratic ticket to run the country. If the Republicans had stayed in the

White House, the USA would been involved in a war with another country, most

likely Iran.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear John,

> > >

> > > Jupiter goes neecha every 12 years or so. Why is this time so special?

> > >

> > > When Jupiter (sidereal of course!) approached its point of maximum

debility -- the world witnessed a MAJOR PARADIGM SHIFT!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > To All:

> > > >

> > > > By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the

slowdown in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that

the USA has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great

Depression) in funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is

equivalent to a war against the worlwide recession.

> > > >

> > > > So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks

bright when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming

December 2009.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > JR

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Okay :-)

 

, " John " <jr_esq wrote:

>

> Namaste RR,

>

> Based on a research performed by James Kelleher, a California jyotishi, the

USA birth data is shown below:

>

> July 4, 1776

> 18:30 hrs

> Philadelphia, PA USA

> Time Zone 5

>

> You should come up with a Dhanus lagna. Most American jyotishis recognize

this chart to be appropriate to represent the USA historical events.

>

> I realize that Shri KN Rao and other jyotishis have a different opinion about

this matter. But I don't want to get into that debate.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

>

>

>

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your thoughts, John. What is the epoch/location that you

are using for USA natal chart?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Rohini Ranjan,

> > >

> > > This particular cycle of Jupiter is unique in that it coincided with a

sensitive dasha in the USA natal chart. Using the Dhanus lagna for the USA

chart, it recently change into the mahadasha of Mars, which is the lord of the

5th and the 12th houses. Since Mars is located in the 7th house, we have a

bhadaka situation for the planet. Ordinarily, the period should have given

positive results in the 5th house. However, due to the bhadaka situation, the

negative aspect (the 12th house) of Mars came into fruition.

> > >

> > > Thus, we have witnessed the trillions of dollars lost from home loans and

their derivatives, and the meltdown of stock prices in Wall Street. Since the

USA economy is considered to be the strongest in the world, its financial

meltdown similarly affected the economies of the world.

> > >

> > > In my opinion, this financial crisis is due to the cumulative effect of

the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush and his advisors made such a ghastly

mistake in making a decision to invade Iraq. By doing so, the economy of the

USA was focused on supporting the military-industrial complex. The economy

failed to sustain the welfare of its citizens, in particular the housing market,

domestic jobs, and consumer goods. Thus, the American economy collapsed for all

intent and purposes due to the burden of the expenditures for the wars in the

Middle East.

> > >

> > > There is more to this discussion. But I'll stop here for brevity.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > JR

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Actually, we should give the American voters credit for electing a

Democratic ticket to run the country. If the Republicans had stayed in the

White House, the USA would been involved in a war with another country, most

likely Iran.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear John,

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter goes neecha every 12 years or so. Why is this time so special?

> > > >

> > > > When Jupiter (sidereal of course!) approached its point of maximum

debility -- the world witnessed a MAJOR PARADIGM SHIFT!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > To All:

> > > > >

> > > > > By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the

slowdown in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that

the USA has committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great

Depression) in funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is

equivalent to a war against the worlwide recession.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks

bright when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming

December 2009.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > JR

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

 

Hi  John,

 

It doesn't look so innocent to me- just Ju neecha, I mean. If this is /winnable/

war against recession, or desperate hyperinflation/throwing money on the

problem, is yet to be seen- on April 2nd Summit at earliest- Europe doesn't seem

enthusiastic about these measures /see resemblance with 1929-1933 etc,

protectionism, mistrust,etc/.

With Saturn/Mars opposition almost exact on April 2nd?

 

Our jewelry may finish in gold-man hands, Marg, it seems more likely at this

point. 

 

Keeping fingers crossed for Ju in Kumbha panacea!

 

Anna 

 

--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Marg <margie9 wrote:

 

 

Marg <margie9

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

Received: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:42 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi John

Do you think Saturn in Leo also lends a hand to the downturn in wealth? Also as

Sun is about to go into exaltation, do you think this might mean gold goes up in

price, and should we all go sell our rings and bracelets to make the most of it?

best wishes M

-

John

 

Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM

Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

To All:

 

By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the slowdown in

the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that the USA has

committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great Depression) in

funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is equivalent to a

war against the worlwide recession.

 

So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear John,

 

Bush 'reign' was really fatal - 'Bush has a form of Kala Sarpa Yoga in his

chart'- plus Saturn and Sun in marana karaka stanas- Gaya-Kesari as well, in

3rd, though. Did he plan to spread the deficit/s/ all over the world? It

might well be at least one of his /ignorant/assumptions.   

 

Anna

 

 

S.A.R

bonamente108

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 3/24/09, John <jr_esq wrote:

 

 

John <jr_esq

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

Received: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 1:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Neelam,

 

Your analysis is very thorough. You've done good research which needed to prove

astrological principles.

 

As far as the USA getting involve in the affairs of India, I don't think the

Obama Administration is intending to spend any more time and expenditures in

foreign affairs or wars. The American electorate has spoken and elected

President Obama to end the war in Iraq and concentrate on the affairs more

beneficial to the citizens of the USA.

 

At this time, the USA deficit and national debt have been at the highest level

(in trillions of dollars!) since the inception of the American constitution. The

country is in a very precarious situation and could very well collapse if the

present situation is not corrected.

 

All of this trouble were caused by President Bush and his advisors. By the way,

Bush has a form of Kala Sarpa Yoga in his chart. So, guess what? He dragged the

US and the world into the mess we are in now.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear John, RRji, Marg and all,

>

> Jupiter is not the lone crusader of the changing scenario, otherwise the

> same situation would emerge every twelfth year, as RR ji also says. The

> stage was set in the beginning of the year when Jupiter joined Rahu in

> Makar, and mars followed. The jup-mar-rah in with two eclipses in Makar has

> triggered this situation. Rashi lord Saturn in leo in 8th from makar also

> indicating the change.

>

> *I am glad to share one of my messages posted on another list in

> mid-December. *

>

> 1747 was the year when Ra-Ju-Ma conjunction last happened in capricorn, some

> 250 years ago. A landmark year in the history, as it gave rise to a new

> world order when Nadir Shah was assassinated and Afghanistan liberated

> itself from the Mughal empire and with its very strategic location paved the

> way to a lot of happenings in the period that followed. In 1747, Jupiter

> Rahu conjunction only had a close brush of 3-4 days with mars in Capricorn.

> While Rahu and Jupiter entered Capricorn from opposite sides, mars was

> preparing to leave.

>

> We also saw British rule establish in India in 1747 when after real invasion

> through sea route in Cuddapore, the Bristish were able to loosen the strong

> hold of French in Podicherry and later in the year, the whole of company

> forces arrived in India to take charge, and we witnessed their (as a result

> our) transformation… from a Trading company to a Ruling company. By now

> everyone knew how to conquer India. With the weak native forces and more

> disciplined invaders, India became an easy catch with their divide and rule

> policy.

>

> It was again the conjunction of Rahu-Jup-mars in 1857, but this time in

> pisces (jup is better equipped), which started the mutiny to bring a new

> order.

>

> However, now in 2009, with the long-stay-triple- whammy in Capricorn,

> sandwiched between the 2008-09 eclipses, with Saturn in 8H from it, does

> have story to tell. A new world order is sure in sight and we already have

> the first ever `Black' Obama assume the office of the US President on

> January 20, 2009.

>

> What about India? We are still as vulnerable, as we were. We have not learnt

> our lessons. The separatist forces still find us an easy prey. How do we see

> this conjunction for India now? The solar eclipse of 26th January 2009 will

> be at mid 12-13 degrees of Capricorn. Thus highlighting the rashi, and

> conjunction even more. A laser beam pointer wants us to read the writing on

> the wall.

>

> India is running Venus MD, who is the lord of disputes in 3H, which more or

> less signifies hidden enemies of neighbourly types. Ketu antar signifies

> outcast and placed in the seventh house of war and foreign affairs is not

> good and has proved so many a times.

>

> Coming to the transits, Rahu and mars will have the decision-making power as

> ketu the antar lord is in scorpio, martian sign and aspects Rahu in lagna.

> Mars is exalted and digbali in Capricorn and as 7L and 12L in 9H, it can

> start a process whereby we have a soft invasion with a spate of foreign

> policies and treaties to fight our internal communal weaknesses and

> terrorism. We have forgotten to solve our problems ourselves. It is ironical

> that we see a foreign hand in creating problems for us and we seek foreign

> hand in solving our problems!! With a weak Jupiter (karak for national

> wisdom) in 9H, it is bound to get overpowered by the mighty 7/12 forces and

> India with its weak governance (12H from 10th) will get overpowered by

> foreign forces which will have long term implications in changing the state

> of the nation. What about the US-nuclear thrust?

>

> Since we are in a rashi ant and waiting for a new dawn with Sun's dasha, and

> not to miss the Leo saturn, I am hopeful that this new order would prove

> good for masses and we might see an emergence of a leader from the opposite

> side who can become the `KING OF MASSES' (4H and sun).

>

> Hope this will be useful.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

 

New Moon is in Pi tomorrow- in Ar western: New beggining...of??

 

 

S.A.R

bonamente108

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, sar108 <bona_mente wrote:

 

 

sar108 <bona_mente

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

Received: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 10:14 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi  John,

 

It doesn't look so innocent to me- just Ju neecha, I mean. If this is /winnable/

war against recession, or desperate hyperinflation/ throwing money on the

problem, is yet to be seen- on April 2nd Summit at earliest- Europe doesn't seem

enthusiastic about these measures /see resemblance with 1929-1933 etc,

protectionism, mistrust,etc/ .

With Saturn/Mars opposition almost exact on April 2nd?

 

Our jewelry may finish in gold-man hands, Marg, it seems more likely at this

point. 

 

Keeping fingers crossed for Ju in Kumbha panacea!

 

Anna 

 

--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> wrote:

 

Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net>

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

Received: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:42 AM

 

Hi John

Do you think Saturn in Leo also lends a hand to the downturn in wealth? Also as

Sun is about to go into exaltation, do you think this might mean gold goes up in

price, and should we all go sell our rings and bracelets to make the most of it?

best wishes M

-

John

 

Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM

Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

To All:

 

By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the slowdown in

the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that the USA has

committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great Depression) in

funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is equivalent to a

war against the worlwide recession.

 

So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Anna

bracelets, rings and necklaces at the ready:-)

-

sar108

Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:14 AM

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

 

 

Hi John,

 

It doesn't look so innocent to me- just Ju neecha, I mean. If this is

/winnable/ war against recession, or desperate hyperinflation/throwing money on

the problem, is yet to be seen- on April 2nd Summit at earliest- Europe doesn't

seem enthusiastic about these measures /see resemblance with 1929-1933 etc,

protectionism, mistrust,etc/.

With Saturn/Mars opposition almost exact on April 2nd?

 

Our jewelry may finish in gold-man hands, Marg, it seems more likely at this

point.

 

Keeping fingers crossed for Ju in Kumbha panacea!

 

Anna

 

--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Marg <margie9 wrote:

 

Marg <margie9

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

Received: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:42 AM

 

Hi John

Do you think Saturn in Leo also lends a hand to the downturn in wealth? Also

as Sun is about to go into exaltation, do you think this might mean gold goes up

in price, and should we all go sell our rings and bracelets to make the most of

it?

best wishes M

-

John

Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM

Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

To All:

 

By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the slowdown

in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that the USA has

committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great Depression) in

funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is equivalent to a

war against the worlwide recession.

 

So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

[Guest guest]

Thought financial wizards might enjoy this analysis of the markets using

tropical astrology, it's taken from Ray Merriman who publishes a book on the

subject every year

Review and Preview

The " Sagittarius Factor " of last Monday through Wednesday corresponded with

huge price swings in many financial and commodity markets, most notably

Treasuries, currencies, and precious metals. Gold, for instance, was trading at

882 on Wednesday, its lowest level since January. By early Friday, it was up to

967.80, an appreciation of 10% in less than 48 hours. Silver's move was even

more spectacular, as it fell to 1189 the same day, also its lowest level since

January. At the close of trading on Friday, it was up to 1384, a gain of 16.4%.

But if you are a currency trader, you had to be stunned by the surge in the Euro

currency and Swiss Franc against the U.S. Dollar. Since its low of 1.2455 on

March 4, the Euro currency soared to 1.3737 on March 19 (last Thursday). The

Swiss Franc surged from a low of .8356 against the U.S. Dollar on March 12 to a

high of .8980 just one week later. These are huge movements for currencies.

Similar moves were noted in the longer-term Treasuries and Notes. Grains and

Crude Oil also enjoyed healthy price increases last week, with Crude trading

above 52.00 for the first time since November. This fits with last week's

report, which stated, " For this coming week, the most notable celestial event we

take interest in is the " Sagittarius Factor " of Monday-Wednesday. It oftentimes

coincides with very sharp price movements - and reversals - in many financial

markets, but especially in precious metals, currencies, and Treasuries. " Yet the

amplitude of these moves was even more impressive than expected, for reasons

discussed below.

 

Equity markets were not quite as exciting. The rallies which started from the

lows of March 6-10 (as Venus turned retrograde) continued into last week. After

rising 10-20% in that brief amount of time, many of these indices started

pulling back as the week wore on. In the case of the Dow Jones Industrial

Average, for example, the low of March 6 at 6470 stalled out last Wednesday,

March 18, at 7571. That represents an impressive gain of 1100 points and 17% in

just 8 trading days. But by Friday, it had given back 300 of those points. We

now wait for next week to see if this will be just a " normal " corrective decline

in a new bull market, or the resumption of the bear market.

 

Short-Term Geocosmics

We are out of the dream-like, surreal, period of Pisces. It's officially

springtime now. As discussed a few weeks ago, this new season may come in with a

bang. After all, the first non-lunar aspect made as we begin spring will be the

Sun square Pluto on Monday, March 23. This will also end the " translation " of

the Sun to the Saturn-Uranus-Pluto developing T-square, which was in force March

8-23. Once again, this translation wasn't as bad for stocks as was the case in

2008. In fact, equities have been mostly higher during this period. The question

is: will they continue to rally? Or will they reverse sharply down now that the

" translation " is ending?

 

The answer may be influenced by Venus retrograde, which is also in effect now.

In fact, it lasts much longer, since it started March 6 and doesn't end until

April 17. It is not unusual to see a market making a multi-month high or low

nearby to Venus turning retrograde, and then reverse in the opposite direction

until the time its motion returns direct. If the Venus retrograde is more

powerful than the Sun's translation to the Saturn-Uranus-Pluto T-square, then

the market should continue its rally for a few more weeks before taking out the

low of March 6-10. If not, we may see the bear market resuming. With Pluto in

the picture as the spring equinox begins, the focus is once again on debt, for

Pluto rules debt, death, and taxes. The aspects that are present at the time of

seasonal change tend to describe themes that are most highlighted for the whole

of that season. This week is not only the start of the new season, but also a

new moon, which will form the same square to Pluto. Spring is supposed to be the

season of romance and love, and bright new hopes for the future. But with Pluto

so prominent, it may be more like " tough love. " Such a geocosmic set up can be

prone to serious power plays in which there is little mercy for the weak. This

is not a time when the " weak shall inherit the earth. " What they inherit may be

more debt, and more demands to pay up (like the AIG executives who received

those bonuses). They are more prone to be forced into foreclosure or bankruptcy,

and sudden changes of life style they didn't plan for.

 

Longer-Term Thoughts

The Venus retrograde effect was in full force last week. Not only did the stock

market continue its rise from March 6, but the Central Banks did indeed announce

new policies that had a direct impact on all interest-rate related markets (i.e.

Treasuries and currencies). This is what generally happens during Venus

retrograde - central banks make new policies or change old ones, and markets

react with great volatility and large price swings. One week ago, the Swiss

Central Bank lowered its key interest rate, and the Swiss Franc feel to a new

three-month low against the U.S. Dollar (the Euro currency did not, for a case

of intermarket bullish divergence). Then this past Wednesday, March 18, the U.S.

Federal Reserve announced a plan to purchase $300 Billion in Treasuries, which

forced the long-term bond rate to levels not seen in decades. The 10-year

Treasury Notes dropped form 3+% to 2.53% and 30-year mortgage rates fell to

4.75%. At the same time, the value of the U.S. Dollar plummeted, as other

currencies surged up against it. The Fed is printing money with a zeal seldom -

if ever - seen before. In all, the Fed will stimulate the economy to the tune

over $1 trillion more, on top of the White House's massive multi-trillion

spending programs already launched in the past few weeks.

 

Yes, they are serious about getting this economy back on strong footing. But

they also risk the dark side of the forthcoming Jupiter-Neptune conjunction,

which is inflation. You may remember last summer the Federal deficit was

projected to be $500 billion this year. Then it was raised to $800 billion

towards the end of last year, and then $1.2 trillion early this year. This week,

it is now estimated to rise to $1.8 trillion. This phenomenon where the budget

deficit " .will rise much greater than anyone expects " was discussed in detail in

the year's Forecast 2009 Book, along with the likely ramifications.

 

Jupiter and Neptune are in Aquarius, and Uranus is in Pisces, creating a very

rare astrological phenomenon known as a mutual reception. It has only happened

twice in the past 3000 years, the last time being 1843. With Jupiter and Neptune

together (May-July 2009 is the strongest part of this aspect), the dynamics tend

to be inflationary. But with Uranus involved, the risk is not a " gradual " return

to inflation, but a Uranian " sudden and unexpected dramatic " return.

 

Is there really a risk here? Chairman Bernanke recently said there is no risk of

inflation in the foreseeable future. But remember: he has the Sun-Jupiter

opposition natally at 21 Sagittarius-Gemini. Transiting Uranus is hovering

around 21 degrees of Pisces, in T-square to his Sun-Jupiter opposition, and all

in mutable signs. This is not a signature usually related to accurate

forecasting skills, or good judgment. The risk is over-estimating (or grossly

under-estimating) the effect of one's actions. That is why transiting Uranus in

hard aspect to natal Jupiter is one of the classical bankruptcy aspects in

astrology. It is not that one cannot make money during these times, for often

one makes a lot of money. But when and how these individuals choose to spend or

invest (or speculate) their money oftentimes involves a risk that is far more

serious than they thought, and it results in larger losses than expected. In

this case, the decision could quite easily result in a sudden increase in

inflation that was not foreseen, with the next result requiring a sudden jump in

interest rates that thwarts the economic recovery.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Anna,

 

Some economists have opined that the US government should not have done anything

to bail out the affected institutions, or other measures to intervene with the

financial collapse. If that was done, we would have lost all of our savings in

the banks and stocks in our stock portfolio. The rest of the scenario would be

too bleak to describe.

 

In the end, it would still be the responsibility of the government to take care

of the people. The government would still need to budget for deficit spending

in order to revive the economy. So, in effect, the present government

intervention was justifiable in that, if successful, would prevent more

suffering in the USA and the rest of the world.

 

In jyotish terms, the present neecha Jupiter is part of the cycle in the cosmic

scheme of things. As someone said before: This too shall pass.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, sar108 <bona_mente wrote:

>

>  

> Hi  John,

>  

> It doesn't look so innocent to me- just Ju neecha, I mean. If this is

/winnable/ war against recession, or desperate hyperinflation/throwing money on

the problem, is yet to be seen- on April 2nd Summit at earliest- Europe doesn't

seem enthusiastic about these measures /see resemblance with 1929-1933 etc,

protectionism, mistrust,etc/.

> With Saturn/Mars opposition almost exact on April 2nd?

>  

> Our jewelry may finish in gold-man hands, Marg, it seems more likely at this

point. 

>  

> Keeping fingers crossed for Ju in Kumbha panacea!

>  

> Anna 

>

> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Marg <margie9 wrote:

>

>

> Marg <margie9

> Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

>

> Received: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:42 AM

Hi John

> Do you think Saturn in Leo also lends a hand to the downturn in wealth? Also

as Sun is about to go into exaltation, do you think this might mean gold goes up

in price, and should we all go sell our rings and bracelets to make the most of

it?

> best wishes M

> -

> John

>

> Monday, March 23, 2009 7:40 AM

> Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

>

> To All:

>

> By jyotish definition, Jupiter is neecha in Makara. Thus, we see the slowdown

in the economy of the USA, and in the world. However, we notice that the USA has

committed trillions of dollars (the most ever since the Great Depression) in

funds to combat the weak economy. In effect, this commitment is equivalent to a

war against the worlwide recession.

>

> So, inspite of the apparent debilitation of Jupiter, the future looks bright

when Jupiter enters the rashi of Kumbha, which should occur this coming December

2009.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Marg,

 

The problem now for the USA and the world is the apparent recession and probable

depression. At the present time, the responsible economists should be devising

ways and strategies to counter the effects of the problem. Based on the theory

of Keynes, it is advisable for the government to take steps to correct the

situation by massive spending programs.

 

Somewhere down the line, inflation may occur. But that can be addressed later

when the time comes.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

 

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Thought financial wizards might enjoy this analysis of the markets using

tropical astrology, it's taken from Ray Merriman who publishes a book on the

subject every year

> Review and Preview

> The " Sagittarius Factor " of last Monday through Wednesday corresponded with

huge price swings in many financial and commodity markets, most notably

Treasuries, currencies, and precious metals. Gold, for instance, was trading at

882 on Wednesday, its lowest level since January. By early Friday, it was up to

967.80, an appreciation of 10% in less than 48 hours. Silver's move was even

more spectacular, as it fell to 1189 the same day, also its lowest level since

January. At the close of trading on Friday, it was up to 1384, a gain of 16.4%.

But if you are a currency trader, you had to be stunned by the surge in the Euro

currency and Swiss Franc against the U.S. Dollar. Since its low of 1.2455 on

March 4, the Euro currency soared to 1.3737 on March 19 (last Thursday). The

Swiss Franc surged from a low of .8356 against the U.S. Dollar on March 12 to a

high of .8980 just one week later. These are huge movements for currencies.

Similar moves were noted in the longer-term Treasuries and Notes. Grains and

Crude Oil also enjoyed healthy price increases last week, with Crude trading

above 52.00 for the first time since November. This fits with last week's

report, which stated, " For this coming week, the most notable celestial event we

take interest in is the " Sagittarius Factor " of Monday-Wednesday. It oftentimes

coincides with very sharp price movements - and reversals - in many financial

markets, but especially in precious metals, currencies, and Treasuries. " Yet the

amplitude of these moves was even more impressive than expected, for reasons

discussed below.

>

> Equity markets were not quite as exciting. The rallies which started from the

lows of March 6-10 (as Venus turned retrograde) continued into last week. After

rising 10-20% in that brief amount of time, many of these indices started

pulling back as the week wore on. In the case of the Dow Jones Industrial

Average, for example, the low of March 6 at 6470 stalled out last Wednesday,

March 18, at 7571. That represents an impressive gain of 1100 points and 17% in

just 8 trading days. But by Friday, it had given back 300 of those points. We

now wait for next week to see if this will be just a " normal " corrective decline

in a new bull market, or the resumption of the bear market.

>

> Short-Term Geocosmics

> We are out of the dream-like, surreal, period of Pisces. It's officially

springtime now. As discussed a few weeks ago, this new season may come in with a

bang. After all, the first non-lunar aspect made as we begin spring will be the

Sun square Pluto on Monday, March 23. This will also end the " translation " of

the Sun to the Saturn-Uranus-Pluto developing T-square, which was in force March

8-23. Once again, this translation wasn't as bad for stocks as was the case in

2008. In fact, equities have been mostly higher during this period. The question

is: will they continue to rally? Or will they reverse sharply down now that the

" translation " is ending?

>

> The answer may be influenced by Venus retrograde, which is also in effect now.

In fact, it lasts much longer, since it started March 6 and doesn't end until

April 17. It is not unusual to see a market making a multi-month high or low

nearby to Venus turning retrograde, and then reverse in the opposite direction

until the time its motion returns direct. If the Venus retrograde is more

powerful than the Sun's translation to the Saturn-Uranus-Pluto T-square, then

the market should continue its rally for a few more weeks before taking out the

low of March 6-10. If not, we may see the bear market resuming. With Pluto in

the picture as the spring equinox begins, the focus is once again on debt, for

Pluto rules debt, death, and taxes. The aspects that are present at the time of

seasonal change tend to describe themes that are most highlighted for the whole

of that season. This week is not only the start of the new season, but also a

new moon, which will form the same square to Pluto. Spring is supposed to be the

season of romance and love, and bright new hopes for the future. But with Pluto

so prominent, it may be more like " tough love. " Such a geocosmic set up can be

prone to serious power plays in which there is little mercy for the weak. This

is not a time when the " weak shall inherit the earth. " What they inherit may be

more debt, and more demands to pay up (like the AIG executives who received

those bonuses). They are more prone to be forced into foreclosure or bankruptcy,

and sudden changes of life style they didn't plan for.

>

> Longer-Term Thoughts

> The Venus retrograde effect was in full force last week. Not only did the

stock market continue its rise from March 6, but the Central Banks did indeed

announce new policies that had a direct impact on all interest-rate related

markets (i.e. Treasuries and currencies). This is what generally happens during

Venus retrograde - central banks make new policies or change old ones, and

markets react with great volatility and large price swings. One week ago, the

Swiss Central Bank lowered its key interest rate, and the Swiss Franc feel to a

new three-month low against the U.S. Dollar (the Euro currency did not, for a

case of intermarket bullish divergence). Then this past Wednesday, March 18, the

U.S. Federal Reserve announced a plan to purchase $300 Billion in Treasuries,

which forced the long-term bond rate to levels not seen in decades. The 10-year

Treasury Notes dropped form 3+% to 2.53% and 30-year mortgage rates fell to

4.75%. At the same time, the value of the U.S. Dollar plummeted, as other

currencies surged up against it. The Fed is printing money with a zeal seldom -

if ever - seen before. In all, the Fed will stimulate the economy to the tune

over $1 trillion more, on top of the White House's massive multi-trillion

spending programs already launched in the past few weeks.

>

> Yes, they are serious about getting this economy back on strong footing. But

they also risk the dark side of the forthcoming Jupiter-Neptune conjunction,

which is inflation. You may remember last summer the Federal deficit was

projected to be $500 billion this year. Then it was raised to $800 billion

towards the end of last year, and then $1.2 trillion early this year. This week,

it is now estimated to rise to $1.8 trillion. This phenomenon where the budget

deficit " .will rise much greater than anyone expects " was discussed in detail in

the year's Forecast 2009 Book, along with the likely ramifications.

>

> Jupiter and Neptune are in Aquarius, and Uranus is in Pisces, creating a very

rare astrological phenomenon known as a mutual reception. It has only happened

twice in the past 3000 years, the last time being 1843. With Jupiter and Neptune

together (May-July 2009 is the strongest part of this aspect), the dynamics tend

to be inflationary. But with Uranus involved, the risk is not a " gradual " return

to inflation, but a Uranian " sudden and unexpected dramatic " return.

>

> Is there really a risk here? Chairman Bernanke recently said there is no risk

of inflation in the foreseeable future. But remember: he has the Sun-Jupiter

opposition natally at 21 Sagittarius-Gemini. Transiting Uranus is hovering

around 21 degrees of Pisces, in T-square to his Sun-Jupiter opposition, and all

in mutable signs. This is not a signature usually related to accurate

forecasting skills, or good judgment. The risk is over-estimating (or grossly

under-estimating) the effect of one's actions. That is why transiting Uranus in

hard aspect to natal Jupiter is one of the classical bankruptcy aspects in

astrology. It is not that one cannot make money during these times, for often

one makes a lot of money. But when and how these individuals choose to spend or

invest (or speculate) their money oftentimes involves a risk that is far more

serious than they thought, and it results in larger losses than expected. In

this case, the decision could quite easily result in a sudden increase in

inflation that was not foreseen, with the next result requiring a sudden jump in

interest rates that thwarts the economic recovery.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Shri John,

 

            Kindly enlighten me what will happen to present position of Neech

Jupiter when Mars also transits in Cancer in early October - its sign of 

debilitation. Jupiter and Mars will be in samasaptama..It seems that Mars shall

be in that position for more than two months..   Whether there is any correction

for this confusion.

 

with regards

SRB

 

--- On Fri, 27/3/09, John <jr_esq wrote:

 

 

John <jr_esq

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

Friday, 27 March, 2009, 2:18 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Marg,

 

The problem now for the USA and the world is the apparent recession and probable

depression. At the present time, the responsible economists should be devising

ways and strategies to counter the effects of the problem. Based on the theory

of Keynes, it is advisable for the government to take steps to correct the

situation by massive spending programs.

 

Somewhere down the line, inflation may occur. But that can be addressed later

when the time comes.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

, " Marg " <margie9 > wrote:

>

> Thought financial wizards might enjoy this analysis of the markets using

tropical astrology, it's taken from Ray Merriman who publishes a book on the

subject every year

> Review and Preview

> The " Sagittarius Factor " of last Monday through Wednesday corresponded with

huge price swings in many financial and commodity markets, most notably

Treasuries, currencies, and precious metals. Gold, for instance, was trading at

882 on Wednesday, its lowest level since January. By early Friday, it was up to

967.80, an appreciation of 10% in less than 48 hours. Silver's move was even

more spectacular, as it fell to 1189 the same day, also its lowest level since

January. At the close of trading on Friday, it was up to 1384, a gain of 16.4%.

But if you are a currency trader, you had to be stunned by the surge in the Euro

currency and Swiss Franc against the U.S. Dollar.. Since its low of 1.2455 on

March 4, the Euro currency soared to 1.3737 on March 19 (last Thursday). The

Swiss Franc surged from a low of .8356 against the U.S. Dollar on March 12 to a

high of .8980 just one week later. These are huge movements for currencies.

Similar moves were noted in the

longer-term Treasuries and Notes. Grains and Crude Oil also enjoyed healthy

price increases last week, with Crude trading above 52.00 for the first time

since November. This fits with last week's report, which stated, " For this

coming week, the most notable celestial event we take interest in is the

" Sagittarius Factor " of Monday-Wednesday. It oftentimes coincides with very

sharp price movements - and reversals - in many financial markets, but

especially in precious metals, currencies, and Treasuries. " Yet the amplitude of

these moves was even more impressive than expected, for reasons discussed below.

>

> Equity markets were not quite as exciting. The rallies which started from the

lows of March 6-10 (as Venus turned retrograde) continued into last week. After

rising 10-20% in that brief amount of time, many of these indices started

pulling back as the week wore on. In the case of the Dow Jones Industrial

Average, for example, the low of March 6 at 6470 stalled out last Wednesday,

March 18, at 7571. That represents an impressive gain of 1100 points and 17% in

just 8 trading days. But by Friday, it had given back 300 of those points. We

now wait for next week to see if this will be just a " normal " corrective decline

in a new bull market, or the resumption of the bear market.

>

> Short-Term Geocosmics

> We are out of the dream-like, surreal, period of Pisces. It's officially

springtime now. As discussed a few weeks ago, this new season may come in with a

bang. After all, the first non-lunar aspect made as we begin spring will be the

Sun square Pluto on Monday, March 23. This will also end the " translation " of

the Sun to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto developing T-square, which was in force

March 8-23. Once again, this translation wasn't as bad for stocks as was the

case in 2008. In fact, equities have been mostly higher during this period. The

question is: will they continue to rally? Or will they reverse sharply down now

that the " translation " is ending?

>

> The answer may be influenced by Venus retrograde, which is also in effect now.

In fact, it lasts much longer, since it started March 6 and doesn't end until

April 17. It is not unusual to see a market making a multi-month high or low

nearby to Venus turning retrograde, and then reverse in the opposite direction

until the time its motion returns direct. If the Venus retrograde is more

powerful than the Sun's translation to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto T-square, then

the market should continue its rally for a few more weeks before taking out the

low of March 6-10. If not, we may see the bear market resuming. With Pluto in

the picture as the spring equinox begins, the focus is once again on debt, for

Pluto rules debt, death, and taxes. The aspects that are present at the time of

seasonal change tend to describe themes that are most highlighted for the whole

of that season. This week is not only the start of the new season, but also a

new moon, which will form

the same square to Pluto. Spring is supposed to be the season of romance and

love, and bright new hopes for the future. But with Pluto so prominent, it may

be more like " tough love. " Such a geocosmic set up can be prone to serious power

plays in which there is little mercy for the weak. This is not a time when the

" weak shall inherit the earth. " What they inherit may be more debt, and more

demands to pay up (like the AIG executives who received those bonuses). They are

more prone to be forced into foreclosure or bankruptcy, and sudden changes of

life style they didn't plan for.

>

> Longer-Term Thoughts

> The Venus retrograde effect was in full force last week. Not only did the

stock market continue its rise from March 6, but the Central Banks did indeed

announce new policies that had a direct impact on all interest-rate related

markets (i.e. Treasuries and currencies). This is what generally happens during

Venus retrograde - central banks make new policies or change old ones, and

markets react with great volatility and large price swings. One week ago, the

Swiss Central Bank lowered its key interest rate, and the Swiss Franc feel to a

new three-month low against the U.S. Dollar (the Euro currency did not, for a

case of intermarket bullish divergence). Then this past Wednesday, March 18, the

U.S. Federal Reserve announced a plan to purchase $300 Billion in Treasuries,

which forced the long-term bond rate to levels not seen in decades. The 10-year

Treasury Notes dropped form 3+% to 2.53% and 30-year mortgage rates fell to

4.75%. At the same time, the

value of the U.S. Dollar plummeted, as other currencies surged up against it.

The Fed is printing money with a zeal seldom - if ever - seen before. In all,

the Fed will stimulate the economy to the tune over $1 trillion more, on top of

the White House's massive multi-trillion spending programs already launched in

the past few weeks.

>

> Yes, they are serious about getting this economy back on strong footing. But

they also risk the dark side of the forthcoming Jupiter-Neptune conjunction,

which is inflation. You may remember last summer the Federal deficit was

projected to be $500 billion this year. Then it was raised to $800 billion

towards the end of last year, and then $1.2 trillion early this year. This week,

it is now estimated to rise to $1.8 trillion. This phenomenon where the budget

deficit " .will rise much greater than anyone expects " was discussed in detail in

the year's Forecast 2009 Book, along with the likely ramifications.

>

> Jupiter and Neptune are in Aquarius, and Uranus is in Pisces, creating a very

rare astrological phenomenon known as a mutual reception. It has only happened

twice in the past 3000 years, the last time being 1843. With Jupiter and Neptune

together (May-July 2009 is the strongest part of this aspect), the dynamics tend

to be inflationary. But with Uranus involved, the risk is not a " gradual " return

to inflation, but a Uranian " sudden and unexpected dramatic " return.

>

> Is there really a risk here? Chairman Bernanke recently said there is no risk

of inflation in the foreseeable future. But remember: he has the Sun-Jupiter

opposition natally at 21 Sagittarius- Gemini. Transiting Uranus is hovering

around 21 degrees of Pisces, in T-square to his Sun-Jupiter opposition, and all

in mutable signs. This is not a signature usually related to accurate

forecasting skills, or good judgment. The risk is over-estimating (or grossly

under-estimating) the effect of one's actions. That is why transiting Uranus in

hard aspect to natal Jupiter is one of the classical bankruptcy aspects in

astrology. It is not that one cannot make money during these times, for often

one makes a lot of money. But when and how these individuals choose to spend or

invest (or speculate) their money oftentimes involves a risk that is far more

serious than they thought, and it results in larger losses than expected. In

this case, the decision could quite

easily result in a sudden increase in inflation that was not foreseen, with the

next result requiring a sudden jump in interest rates that thwarts the economic

recovery.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi John

Yes I keep hearing about Keynes, the thing is when he devised his theories most

bankers were more trustworthy, and financial markets were not as complicated as

they have become.

What concerns me, especially as in western astrol we have Jupiter with Neptune,

planet of deception, it seems the old solutions are no match for new problems

and new surreptitious, if not criminally based, financial markets such as

equities and hedge funds and the rest, not to mention the odd Ponzi scheme which

can hide amongst the complexities.

I don't think anyone genuinely knows what has gone wrong in the markets, though

many will 'pretend' (Jupiter with deluded Neptune again) they do. I also

believe that governments are part of the problem itself, where they have

deliberately failed to regulate, but also have plunged people into this crisis

in order to pursue some other agenda-- namely globalisation and world control.

 

I have listened to the coverage of the enquiry into the downturn in the UK and

what comes across is how little these 'experts' know in terms of accounting for

what has gone wrong. Not one of them can account for the role they played, or

have any idea of how the current situation can inform them of which way they

should be regulating for the future.

The fact that Madoff (an ultimate signature for Jupiter with Neptune---deceitful

treasurer) can co exist for so long in financial environments which very few

understand, and no one knows even now where the money he got has gone, is cause

for concern, and demonstrates that it only takes one rotten apple to rot the

whole cartload, but if no one knows what a rotten apple looks like, then how to

remove it before the rest turn sour?

Neptune with Jupiter shows that we have deluded bankers, financiers and

treasurers, who in turn are deluding us...the emperors new clothes syndrome if

you like...we lie and pretend---you believe,

best wishes

M

 

 

 

 

-

John

Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:48 PM

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

 

Namaste Marg,

 

The problem now for the USA and the world is the apparent recession and

probable depression. At the present time, the responsible economists should be

devising ways and strategies to counter the effects of the problem. Based on the

theory of Keynes, it is advisable for the government to take steps to correct

the situation by massive spending programs.

 

Somewhere down the line, inflation may occur. But that can be addressed later

when the time comes.

 

Regards,

 

JR

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Thought financial wizards might enjoy this analysis of the markets using

tropical astrology, it's taken from Ray Merriman who publishes a book on the

subject every year

> Review and Preview

> The " Sagittarius Factor " of last Monday through Wednesday corresponded with

huge price swings in many financial and commodity markets, most notably

Treasuries, currencies, and precious metals. Gold, for instance, was trading at

882 on Wednesday, its lowest level since January. By early Friday, it was up to

967.80, an appreciation of 10% in less than 48 hours. Silver's move was even

more spectacular, as it fell to 1189 the same day, also its lowest level since

January. At the close of trading on Friday, it was up to 1384, a gain of 16.4%.

But if you are a currency trader, you had to be stunned by the surge in the Euro

currency and Swiss Franc against the U.S. Dollar. Since its low of 1.2455 on

March 4, the Euro currency soared to 1.3737 on March 19 (last Thursday). The

Swiss Franc surged from a low of .8356 against the U.S. Dollar on March 12 to a

high of .8980 just one week later. These are huge movements for currencies.

Similar moves were noted in the longer-term Treasuries and Notes. Grains and

Crude Oil also enjoyed healthy price increases last week, with Crude trading

above 52.00 for the first time since November. This fits with last week's

report, which stated, " For this coming week, the most notable celestial event we

take interest in is the " Sagittarius Factor " of Monday-Wednesday. It oftentimes

coincides with very sharp price movements - and reversals - in many financial

markets, but especially in precious metals, currencies, and Treasuries. " Yet the

amplitude of these moves was even more impressive than expected, for reasons

discussed below.

>

> Equity markets were not quite as exciting. The rallies which started from

the lows of March 6-10 (as Venus turned retrograde) continued into last week.

After rising 10-20% in that brief amount of time, many of these indices started

pulling back as the week wore on. In the case of the Dow Jones Industrial

Average, for example, the low of March 6 at 6470 stalled out last Wednesday,

March 18, at 7571. That represents an impressive gain of 1100 points and 17% in

just 8 trading days. But by Friday, it had given back 300 of those points. We

now wait for next week to see if this will be just a " normal " corrective decline

in a new bull market, or the resumption of the bear market.

>

> Short-Term Geocosmics

> We are out of the dream-like, surreal, period of Pisces. It's officially

springtime now. As discussed a few weeks ago, this new season may come in with a

bang. After all, the first non-lunar aspect made as we begin spring will be the

Sun square Pluto on Monday, March 23. This will also end the " translation " of

the Sun to the Saturn-Uranus-Pluto developing T-square, which was in force March

8-23. Once again, this translation wasn't as bad for stocks as was the case in

2008. In fact, equities have been mostly higher during this period. The question

is: will they continue to rally? Or will they reverse sharply down now that the

" translation " is ending?

>

> The answer may be influenced by Venus retrograde, which is also in effect

now. In fact, it lasts much longer, since it started March 6 and doesn't end

until April 17. It is not unusual to see a market making a multi-month high or

low nearby to Venus turning retrograde, and then reverse in the opposite

direction until the time its motion returns direct. If the Venus retrograde is

more powerful than the Sun's translation to the Saturn-Uranus-Pluto T-square,

then the market should continue its rally for a few more weeks before taking out

the low of March 6-10. If not, we may see the bear market resuming. With Pluto

in the picture as the spring equinox begins, the focus is once again on debt,

for Pluto rules debt, death, and taxes. The aspects that are present at the time

of seasonal change tend to describe themes that are most highlighted for the

whole of that season. This week is not only the start of the new season, but

also a new moon, which will form the same square to Pluto. Spring is supposed to

be the season of romance and love, and bright new hopes for the future. But with

Pluto so prominent, it may be more like " tough love. " Such a geocosmic set up

can be prone to serious power plays in which there is little mercy for the weak.

This is not a time when the " weak shall inherit the earth. " What they inherit

may be more debt, and more demands to pay up (like the AIG executives who

received those bonuses). They are more prone to be forced into foreclosure or

bankruptcy, and sudden changes of life style they didn't plan for.

>

> Longer-Term Thoughts

> The Venus retrograde effect was in full force last week. Not only did the

stock market continue its rise from March 6, but the Central Banks did indeed

announce new policies that had a direct impact on all interest-rate related

markets (i.e. Treasuries and currencies). This is what generally happens during

Venus retrograde - central banks make new policies or change old ones, and

markets react with great volatility and large price swings. One week ago, the

Swiss Central Bank lowered its key interest rate, and the Swiss Franc feel to a

new three-month low against the U.S. Dollar (the Euro currency did not, for a

case of intermarket bullish divergence). Then this past Wednesday, March 18, the

U.S. Federal Reserve announced a plan to purchase $300 Billion in Treasuries,

which forced the long-term bond rate to levels not seen in decades. The 10-year

Treasury Notes dropped form 3+% to 2.53% and 30-year mortgage rates fell to

4.75%. At the same time, the value of the U.S. Dollar plummeted, as other

currencies surged up against it. The Fed is printing money with a zeal seldom -

if ever - seen before. In all, the Fed will stimulate the economy to the tune

over $1 trillion more, on top of the White House's massive multi-trillion

spending programs already launched in the past few weeks.

>

> Yes, they are serious about getting this economy back on strong footing. But

they also risk the dark side of the forthcoming Jupiter-Neptune conjunction,

which is inflation. You may remember last summer the Federal deficit was

projected to be $500 billion this year. Then it was raised to $800 billion

towards the end of last year, and then $1.2 trillion early this year. This week,

it is now estimated to rise to $1.8 trillion. This phenomenon where the budget

deficit " .will rise much greater than anyone expects " was discussed in detail in

the year's Forecast 2009 Book, along with the likely ramifications.

>

> Jupiter and Neptune are in Aquarius, and Uranus is in Pisces, creating a

very rare astrological phenomenon known as a mutual reception. It has only

happened twice in the past 3000 years, the last time being 1843. With Jupiter

and Neptune together (May-July 2009 is the strongest part of this aspect), the

dynamics tend to be inflationary. But with Uranus involved, the risk is not a

" gradual " return to inflation, but a Uranian " sudden and unexpected dramatic "

return.

>

> Is there really a risk here? Chairman Bernanke recently said there is no

risk of inflation in the foreseeable future. But remember: he has the

Sun-Jupiter opposition natally at 21 Sagittarius-Gemini. Transiting Uranus is

hovering around 21 degrees of Pisces, in T-square to his Sun-Jupiter opposition,

and all in mutable signs. This is not a signature usually related to accurate

forecasting skills, or good judgment. The risk is over-estimating (or grossly

under-estimating) the effect of one's actions. That is why transiting Uranus in

hard aspect to natal Jupiter is one of the classical bankruptcy aspects in

astrology. It is not that one cannot make money during these times, for often

one makes a lot of money. But when and how these individuals choose to spend or

invest (or speculate) their money oftentimes involves a risk that is far more

serious than they thought, and it results in larger losses than expected. In

this case, the decision could quite easily result in a sudden increase in

inflation that was not foreseen, with the next result requiring a sudden jump in

interest rates that thwarts the economic recovery.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Balasubramaniam,

 

The transit of Mars in Cancer is the cyclical time to beware of natural

disasters that occur in one's geographical area in the world. For the Far East

and South Asia, this is usually the time when typhoons, tsunamis and earthquakes

would occur.

 

In North America, the USA is usually plagued by the hurricanes that have

devastated the city of New Orleans and other metropolitan centers in the area.

 

So, the mutual aspect of Mars and Jupiter, both of whom are neechas, could

heigthen the danger of these natural disasters for the world in general.

 

As a precautionary measures, the emergency units in these areas should be

alerted to the possibility of these areas in order to avert any confusion that

resulted in many deaths in New Orleans, Louisiana, USA a few years ago.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

, Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46

wrote:

>

> Namaste Shri John,

>  

>             Kindly enlighten me what will happen to present position of Neech

Jupiter when Mars also transits in Cancer in early October - its sign of 

debilitation. Jupiter and Mars will be in samasaptama..It seems that Mars shall

be in that position for more than two months..   Whether there is any correction

for this confusion.

>  

> with regards

> SRB

>

> --- On Fri, 27/3/09, John <jr_esq wrote:

>

>

> John <jr_esq

> Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

>

> Friday, 27 March, 2009, 2:18 AM

Namaste Marg,

>

> The problem now for the USA and the world is the apparent recession and

probable depression. At the present time, the responsible economists should be

devising ways and strategies to counter the effects of the problem. Based on the

theory of Keynes, it is advisable for the government to take steps to correct

the situation by massive spending programs.

>

> Somewhere down the line, inflation may occur. But that can be addressed later

when the time comes.

>

> Regards,

>

> JR

>

> , " Marg " <margie9@ > wrote:

> >

> > Thought financial wizards might enjoy this analysis of the markets using

tropical astrology, it's taken from Ray Merriman who publishes a book on the

subject every year

> > Review and Preview

> > The " Sagittarius Factor " of last Monday through Wednesday corresponded with

huge price swings in many financial and commodity markets, most notably

Treasuries, currencies, and precious metals. Gold, for instance, was trading at

882 on Wednesday, its lowest level since January. By early Friday, it was up to

967.80, an appreciation of 10% in less than 48 hours. Silver's move was even

more spectacular, as it fell to 1189 the same day, also its lowest level since

January. At the close of trading on Friday, it was up to 1384, a gain of 16.4%.

But if you are a currency trader, you had to be stunned by the surge in the Euro

currency and Swiss Franc against the U.S. Dollar.. Since its low of 1.2455 on

March 4, the Euro currency soared to 1.3737 on March 19 (last Thursday). The

Swiss Franc surged from a low of .8356 against the U.S. Dollar on March 12 to a

high of .8980 just one week later. These are huge movements for currencies.

Similar moves were noted in the

> longer-term Treasuries and Notes. Grains and Crude Oil also enjoyed healthy

price increases last week, with Crude trading above 52.00 for the first time

since November. This fits with last week's report, which stated, " For this

coming week, the most notable celestial event we take interest in is the

" Sagittarius Factor " of Monday-Wednesday. It oftentimes coincides with very

sharp price movements - and reversals - in many financial markets, but

especially in precious metals, currencies, and Treasuries. " Yet the amplitude of

these moves was even more impressive than expected, for reasons discussed below.

> >

> > Equity markets were not quite as exciting. The rallies which started from

the lows of March 6-10 (as Venus turned retrograde) continued into last week.

After rising 10-20% in that brief amount of time, many of these indices started

pulling back as the week wore on. In the case of the Dow Jones Industrial

Average, for example, the low of March 6 at 6470 stalled out last Wednesday,

March 18, at 7571. That represents an impressive gain of 1100 points and 17% in

just 8 trading days. But by Friday, it had given back 300 of those points. We

now wait for next week to see if this will be just a " normal " corrective decline

in a new bull market, or the resumption of the bear market.

> >

> > Short-Term Geocosmics

> > We are out of the dream-like, surreal, period of Pisces. It's officially

springtime now. As discussed a few weeks ago, this new season may come in with a

bang. After all, the first non-lunar aspect made as we begin spring will be the

Sun square Pluto on Monday, March 23. This will also end the " translation " of

the Sun to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto developing T-square, which was in force

March 8-23. Once again, this translation wasn't as bad for stocks as was the

case in 2008. In fact, equities have been mostly higher during this period. The

question is: will they continue to rally? Or will they reverse sharply down now

that the " translation " is ending?

> >

> > The answer may be influenced by Venus retrograde, which is also in effect

now. In fact, it lasts much longer, since it started March 6 and doesn't end

until April 17. It is not unusual to see a market making a multi-month high or

low nearby to Venus turning retrograde, and then reverse in the opposite

direction until the time its motion returns direct. If the Venus retrograde is

more powerful than the Sun's translation to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto T-square,

then the market should continue its rally for a few more weeks before taking out

the low of March 6-10. If not, we may see the bear market resuming. With Pluto

in the picture as the spring equinox begins, the focus is once again on debt,

for Pluto rules debt, death, and taxes. The aspects that are present at the time

of seasonal change tend to describe themes that are most highlighted for the

whole of that season. This week is not only the start of the new season, but

also a new moon, which will form

> the same square to Pluto. Spring is supposed to be the season of romance and

love, and bright new hopes for the future. But with Pluto so prominent, it may

be more like " tough love. " Such a geocosmic set up can be prone to serious power

plays in which there is little mercy for the weak. This is not a time when the

" weak shall inherit the earth. " What they inherit may be more debt, and more

demands to pay up (like the AIG executives who received those bonuses). They are

more prone to be forced into foreclosure or bankruptcy, and sudden changes of

life style they didn't plan for.

> >

> > Longer-Term Thoughts

> > The Venus retrograde effect was in full force last week. Not only did the

stock market continue its rise from March 6, but the Central Banks did indeed

announce new policies that had a direct impact on all interest-rate related

markets (i.e. Treasuries and currencies). This is what generally happens during

Venus retrograde - central banks make new policies or change old ones, and

markets react with great volatility and large price swings. One week ago, the

Swiss Central Bank lowered its key interest rate, and the Swiss Franc feel to a

new three-month low against the U.S. Dollar (the Euro currency did not, for a

case of intermarket bullish divergence). Then this past Wednesday, March 18, the

U.S. Federal Reserve announced a plan to purchase $300 Billion in Treasuries,

which forced the long-term bond rate to levels not seen in decades. The 10-year

Treasury Notes dropped form 3+% to 2.53% and 30-year mortgage rates fell to

4.75%. At the same time, the

> value of the U.S. Dollar plummeted, as other currencies surged up against it.

The Fed is printing money with a zeal seldom - if ever - seen before. In all,

the Fed will stimulate the economy to the tune over $1 trillion more, on top of

the White House's massive multi-trillion spending programs already launched in

the past few weeks.

> >

> > Yes, they are serious about getting this economy back on strong footing. But

they also risk the dark side of the forthcoming Jupiter-Neptune conjunction,

which is inflation. You may remember last summer the Federal deficit was

projected to be $500 billion this year. Then it was raised to $800 billion

towards the end of last year, and then $1.2 trillion early this year. This week,

it is now estimated to rise to $1.8 trillion. This phenomenon where the budget

deficit " .will rise much greater than anyone expects " was discussed in detail in

the year's Forecast 2009 Book, along with the likely ramifications.

> >

> > Jupiter and Neptune are in Aquarius, and Uranus is in Pisces, creating a

very rare astrological phenomenon known as a mutual reception. It has only

happened twice in the past 3000 years, the last time being 1843. With Jupiter

and Neptune together (May-July 2009 is the strongest part of this aspect), the

dynamics tend to be inflationary. But with Uranus involved, the risk is not a

" gradual " return to inflation, but a Uranian " sudden and unexpected dramatic "

return.

> >

> > Is there really a risk here? Chairman Bernanke recently said there is no

risk of inflation in the foreseeable future. But remember: he has the

Sun-Jupiter opposition natally at 21 Sagittarius- Gemini. Transiting Uranus is

hovering around 21 degrees of Pisces, in T-square to his Sun-Jupiter opposition,

and all in mutable signs. This is not a signature usually related to accurate

forecasting skills, or good judgment. The risk is over-estimating (or grossly

under-estimating) the effect of one's actions. That is why transiting Uranus in

hard aspect to natal Jupiter is one of the classical bankruptcy aspects in

astrology. It is not that one cannot make money during these times, for often

one makes a lot of money. But when and how these individuals choose to spend or

invest (or speculate) their money oftentimes involves a risk that is far more

serious than they thought, and it results in larger losses than expected. In

this case, the decision could quite

> easily result in a sudden increase in inflation that was not foreseen, with

the next result requiring a sudden jump in interest rates that thwarts the

economic recovery.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Namaste Shri John,

 

            Thank you for your observation.  In fact, the Neecha Mars  shall

heighten the tension in the world in other areas of life. I had a hunch that two

neecha planets aspecting each other would give some moderation.  But it is

otherwise, I suppose.

 

with regards

SRB

 

--- On Sat, 28/3/09, John <jr_esq wrote:

 

John <jr_esq

Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 3:51 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Balasubramaniam,

 

 

 

The transit of Mars in Cancer is the cyclical time to beware of natural

disasters that occur in one's geographical area in the world. For the Far East

and South Asia, this is usually the time when typhoons, tsunamis and earthquakes

would occur.

 

 

 

In North America, the USA is usually plagued by the hurricanes that have

devastated the city of New Orleans and other metropolitan centers in the area.

 

 

 

So, the mutual aspect of Mars and Jupiter, both of whom are neechas, could

heigthen the danger of these natural disasters for the world in general.

 

 

 

As a precautionary measures, the emergency units in these areas should be

alerted to the possibility of these areas in order to avert any confusion that

resulted in many deaths in New Orleans, Louisiana, USA a few years ago.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

John R.

 

 

 

, Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46

> wrote:

 

>

 

> Namaste Shri John,

 

>  

 

>             Kindly enlighten me what will happen to present position of Neech

Jupiter when Mars also transits in Cancer in early October - its sign of 

debilitation. Jupiter and Mars will be in samasaptama. .It seems that Mars shall

be in that position for more than two months..   Whether there is any correction

for this confusion.

 

>  

 

> with regards

 

> SRB

 

>

 

> --- On Fri, 27/3/09, John <jr_esq wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> John <jr_esq

 

> Re: Paradox of Jupiter's Neecha Status in Makara

 

>

 

> Friday, 27 March, 2009, 2:18 AM

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Namaste Marg,

 

>

 

> The problem now for the USA and the world is the apparent recession and

probable depression. At the present time, the responsible economists should be

devising ways and strategies to counter the effects of the problem. Based on the

theory of Keynes, it is advisable for the government to take steps to correct

the situation by massive spending programs.

 

>

 

> Somewhere down the line, inflation may occur. But that can be addressed later

when the time comes.

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

> JR

 

>

 

> , " Marg " <margie9@ > wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Thought financial wizards might enjoy this analysis of the markets using

tropical astrology, it's taken from Ray Merriman who publishes a book on the

subject every year

 

> > Review and Preview

 

> > The " Sagittarius Factor " of last Monday through Wednesday corresponded with

huge price swings in many financial and commodity markets, most notably

Treasuries, currencies, and precious metals. Gold, for instance, was trading at

882 on Wednesday, its lowest level since January. By early Friday, it was up to

967.80, an appreciation of 10% in less than 48 hours. Silver's move was even

more spectacular, as it fell to 1189 the same day, also its lowest level since

January. At the close of trading on Friday, it was up to 1384, a gain of 16.4%.

But if you are a currency trader, you had to be stunned by the surge in the Euro

currency and Swiss Franc against the U.S. Dollar.. Since its low of 1.2455 on

March 4, the Euro currency soared to 1.3737 on March 19 (last Thursday). The

Swiss Franc surged from a low of .8356 against the U.S. Dollar on March 12 to a

high of .8980 just one week later.. These are huge movements for currencies.

Similar moves were noted in

the

 

> longer-term Treasuries and Notes. Grains and Crude Oil also enjoyed healthy

price increases last week, with Crude trading above 52.00 for the first time

since November. This fits with last week's report, which stated, " For this

coming week, the most notable celestial event we take interest in is the

" Sagittarius Factor " of Monday-Wednesday. It oftentimes coincides with very

sharp price movements - and reversals - in many financial markets, but

especially in precious metals, currencies, and Treasuries. " Yet the amplitude of

these moves was even more impressive than expected, for reasons discussed below.

 

> >

 

> > Equity markets were not quite as exciting. The rallies which started from

the lows of March 6-10 (as Venus turned retrograde) continued into last week.

After rising 10-20% in that brief amount of time, many of these indices started

pulling back as the week wore on. In the case of the Dow Jones Industrial

Average, for example, the low of March 6 at 6470 stalled out last Wednesday,

March 18, at 7571. That represents an impressive gain of 1100 points and 17% in

just 8 trading days. But by Friday, it had given back 300 of those points. We

now wait for next week to see if this will be just a " normal " corrective decline

in a new bull market, or the resumption of the bear market.

 

> >

 

> > Short-Term Geocosmics

 

> > We are out of the dream-like, surreal, period of Pisces. It's officially

springtime now. As discussed a few weeks ago, this new season may come in with a

bang. After all, the first non-lunar aspect made as we begin spring will be the

Sun square Pluto on Monday, March 23. This will also end the " translation " of

the Sun to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto developing T-square, which was in force

March 8-23. Once again, this translation wasn't as bad for stocks as was the

case in 2008. In fact, equities have been mostly higher during this period. The

question is: will they continue to rally? Or will they reverse sharply down now

that the " translation " is ending?

 

> >

 

> > The answer may be influenced by Venus retrograde, which is also in effect

now. In fact, it lasts much longer, since it started March 6 and doesn't end

until April 17. It is not unusual to see a market making a multi-month high or

low nearby to Venus turning retrograde, and then reverse in the opposite

direction until the time its motion returns direct. If the Venus retrograde is

more powerful than the Sun's translation to the Saturn-Uranus- Pluto T-square,

then the market should continue its rally for a few more weeks before taking out

the low of March 6-10. If not, we may see the bear market resuming. With Pluto

in the picture as the spring equinox begins, the focus is once again on debt,

for Pluto rules debt, death, and taxes. The aspects that are present at the time

of seasonal change tend to describe themes that are most highlighted for the

whole of that season. This week is not only the start of the new season, but

also a new moon, which will

form

 

> the same square to Pluto. Spring is supposed to be the season of romance and

love, and bright new hopes for the future. But with Pluto so prominent, it may

be more like " tough love. " Such a geocosmic set up can be prone to serious power

plays in which there is little mercy for the weak. This is not a time when the

" weak shall inherit the earth. " What they inherit may be more debt, and more

demands to pay up (like the AIG executives who received those bonuses). They are

more prone to be forced into foreclosure or bankruptcy, and sudden changes of

life style they didn't plan for.

 

> >

 

> > Longer-Term Thoughts

 

> > The Venus retrograde effect was in full force last week. Not only did the

stock market continue its rise from March 6, but the Central Banks did indeed

announce new policies that had a direct impact on all interest-rate related

markets (i.e. Treasuries and currencies). This is what generally happens during

Venus retrograde - central banks make new policies or change old ones, and

markets react with great volatility and large price swings. One week ago, the

Swiss Central Bank lowered its key interest rate, and the Swiss Franc feel to a

new three-month low against the U.S. Dollar (the Euro currency did not, for a

case of intermarket bullish divergence). Then this past Wednesday, March 18, the

U.S. Federal Reserve announced a plan to purchase $300 Billion in Treasuries,

which forced the long-term bond rate to levels not seen in decades. The 10-year

Treasury Notes dropped form 3+% to 2.53% and 30-year mortgage rates fell to

4.75%. At the same time, the

 

> value of the U.S. Dollar plummeted, as other currencies surged up against it.

The Fed is printing money with a zeal seldom - if ever - seen before. In all,

the Fed will stimulate the economy to the tune over $1 trillion more, on top of

the White House's massive multi-trillion spending programs already launched in

the past few weeks.

 

> >

 

> > Yes, they are serious about getting this economy back on strong footing. But

they also risk the dark side of the forthcoming Jupiter-Neptune conjunction,

which is inflation. You may remember last summer the Federal deficit was

projected to be $500 billion this year. Then it was raised to $800 billion

towards the end of last year, and then $1.2 trillion early this year. This week,

it is now estimated to rise to $1.8 trillion. This phenomenon where the budget

deficit " .will rise much greater than anyone expects " was discussed in detail in

the year's Forecast 2009 Book, along with the likely ramifications.

 

> >

 

> > Jupiter and Neptune are in Aquarius, and Uranus is in Pisces, creating a

very rare astrological phenomenon known as a mutual reception. It has only

happened twice in the past 3000 years, the last time being 1843. With Jupiter

and Neptune together (May-July 2009 is the strongest part of this aspect), the

dynamics tend to be inflationary. But with Uranus involved, the risk is not a

" gradual " return to inflation, but a Uranian " sudden and unexpected dramatic "

return.

 

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risk of inflation in the foreseeable future. But remember: he has the

Sun-Jupiter opposition natally at 21 Sagittarius- Gemini. Transiting Uranus is

hovering around 21 degrees of Pisces, in T-square to his Sun-Jupiter opposition,

and all in mutable signs. This is not a signature usually related to accurate

forecasting skills, or good judgment. The risk is over-estimating (or grossly

under-estimating) the effect of one's actions. That is why transiting Uranus in

hard aspect to natal Jupiter is one of the classical bankruptcy aspects in

astrology. It is not that one cannot make money during these times, for often

one makes a lot of money. But when and how these individuals choose to spend or

invest (or speculate) their money oftentimes involves a risk that is far more

serious than they thought, and it results in larger losses than expected. In

this case, the decision could quite

 

> easily result in a sudden increase in inflation that was not foreseen, with

the next result requiring a sudden jump in interest rates that thwarts the

economic recovery.

 

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