Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.e.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.e.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav <asthikasamaj >; <astro_remedies >; <astroriber >; <vedic astrology >; <brahmin >; <brahmin_world; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm; <CaribbeanHindus >; <HARE_RAM >; ; <4brahmins >; <shaneeswara >; <vandenikhilam > Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMANO GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM-MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 dear all, 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. anil sachdev 09427522544 astologer omshiva_renu --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro <eastro wrote: eastro <eastro Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@ s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@grou ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer…… Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMANO GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM-MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in ‘Jathaka Rathna’ also. Sukam Gruham ……..Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it’s own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per ‘Gochara’ to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( ‘Gochara’ movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother’s ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother’s ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ….. Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita’s Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 27514, USA 001-919-960-3833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 The 4th has been depicted as the " resting place " . Some have interpreted as the grave or state of finality/death, others as being at the mother's bosom, some have used the term: contentment/santosh,shanti and so on. I once had a very dear friend who was a dhanu lagna and even when we were teenagers (TA) he shared something smilingly that stays on with me till today. He said, " If I have to ask God for anything, I will not ask riches, luxuries, happiness, joy, exaltation or exultation. I will ask for contentment or Santosh as we call it in hindi " One who has attained santosh is indeed resting fully! I think Cats *know* something that we humans do not really! Observe a cat when you get a chance! RR vedic astrology , renu sachdev <omshiva_renu wrote: > > > dear all, > 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small > > > > > trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. > anil sachdev > 09427522544 > astologer > omshiva_renu > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro <eastro wrote: > > eastro <eastro > Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > vedic astrology > Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the > Fourth > > Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo > Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha > Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi > Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! > > With warm regards > > G Kumar > Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo > http://www.eastrove dica.net/ > > Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info > > - > " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies@ . com>; > <astroriber@gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; > <brahmin@ .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm > group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus@ . com>; > <HARE_RAM@ s.com>; <>; > <4brahmins@grou ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; > <vandenikhilam> > Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM > [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > > Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I > believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are > many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to > this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain > in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. > > Dear Mr. Arun: > > In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of > details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I > may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of > the details required by you. > VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI > SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | > MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI > CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility > of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows > (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, > g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). > Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. > Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of > selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: > > 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the > quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava > occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated > with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and > humility. > 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of > that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. > 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in > aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational > intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a > child/person being autistic) > If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be > identified. > If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart > in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical > signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person > will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could > judge with reason in his life. > 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the > bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra > positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will > be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to > attain high standard of life. > > Mother: > > 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other > counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, > and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be > strong, the natives mother will have a long life. > 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in > 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic > Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the > appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above > listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) > 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is > associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as > also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' > movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that > time. > 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth > chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a > Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen > in the period arrived at similar to above. > 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the > Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava > is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. > > Father: > > 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, > a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of > 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th > bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, > occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same > effect. > 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th > bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one > recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or > prodigal. > > Wrong relations: > 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` > DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW > KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: > SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || > If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or > if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect > of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual > intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. > 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and > with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), > the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun > and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the > passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) > To be continued ... > Pathi (10th February 2009) > Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. > > A.V.Pathi, > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill, > North Carolina, 27514, USA > 001-919-960- 3833 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 dear all, 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. anil sachdev 09427522544 astologer omshiva_renu --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro <eastro wrote: eastro <eastro Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@ s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@grou ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Dear Mr. Anu Sachdev, Thanks for reminding me! Sure you read the last line 'to be continued' was in that mail. However, you, extremely learned greats now continue in that 'heading' to give the exemplary knowledge you have in the subject for others in the group to know more. I am not sending further on this . Blessings. Pathi ________________________________ renu sachdev <omshiva_renu vedic astrology Friday, February 13, 2009 11:21:14 AM Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I dear all, 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. anil sachdev 09427522544 astologer omshiva_renu@ --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> wrote: eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@ gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ s .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm@ . co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@grou p s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@gro u ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Absolutely logical, Dada. And actually so correct in actuality. Reminds me of an afflicted 4th house being important in taking people abroad for settlement. And also an unafflicted 4th. house in that respect. RishiRahul vedic astrology jyotish_vani Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:16:53 +0000 [vedic astrology] Re: 4th house - I The 4th has been depicted as the " resting place " . Some have interpreted as the grave or state of finality/death, others as being at the mother's bosom, some have used the term: contentment/santosh,shanti and so on. I once had a very dear friend who was a dhanu lagna and even when we were teenagers (TA) he shared something smilingly that stays on with me till today. He said, " If I have to ask God for anything, I will not ask riches, luxuries, happiness, joy, exaltation or exultation. I will ask for contentment or Santosh as we call it in hindi " One who has attained santosh is indeed resting fully! I think Cats *know* something that we humans do not really! Observe a cat when you get a chance! RR vedic astrology , renu sachdev <omshiva_renu wrote: > > > dear all, > 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small > > > > > trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. > anil sachdev > 09427522544 > astologer > omshiva_renu > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro <eastro wrote: > > eastro <eastro > Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > vedic astrology > Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM > > > > > > > Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the > Fourth > > Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo > Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha > Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi > Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! > > With warm regards > > G Kumar > Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo > http://www.eastrove dica.net/ > > Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info > > - > " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies@ . com>; > <astroriber@gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; > <brahmin@ .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm > group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus@ . com>; > <HARE_RAM@ s.com>; <>; > <4brahmins@grou ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; > <vandenikhilam> > Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM > [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > > Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I > believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are > many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to > this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain > in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. > > Dear Mr. Arun: > > In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of > details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I > may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of > the details required by you. > VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI > SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | > MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI > CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility > of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows > (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, > g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). > Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. > Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of > selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: > > 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the > quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava > occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated > with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and > humility. > 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of > that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. > 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in > aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational > intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a > child/person being autistic) > If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be > identified. > If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart > in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical > signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person > will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could > judge with reason in his life. > 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the > bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra > positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will > be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to > attain high standard of life. > > Mother: > > 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other > counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, > and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be > strong, the natives mother will have a long life. > 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in > 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic > Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the > appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above > listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) > 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is > associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as > also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' > movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that > time. > 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth > chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a > Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen > in the period arrived at similar to above. > 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the > Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava > is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. > > Father: > > 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, > a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of > 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th > bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, > occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same > effect. > 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th > bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one > recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or > prodigal. > > Wrong relations: > 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` > DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW > KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: > SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || > If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or > if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect > of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual > intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. > 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and > with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), > the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun > and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the > passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) > To be continued ... > Pathi (10th February 2009) > Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. > > A.V.Pathi, > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill, > North Carolina, 27514, USA > 001-919-960- 3833 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Sir, Great. Please continue. I suppose you had not seen that I closed the 1st instalment with 'to be continued ' in the end. Now you being an expert, please try to continue the answer. However, I had decided not to send any further articles, to invite hasty comments. I translated the sloka only of JP. A.V.Pathi, ________________________________ " eastro " <eastro vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:42:27 PM Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@ s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@grou ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Dear all, 4th house is also for, [A] Adventures and Small Trips of Own Family, Saved Money. Luck of Hidden things, Accidents, Shaiya Sukh. [C] Accidents, Shaiya sukh and Hidden things of Luck. [D] Enemies of Loans, illness of own income, elder brothers and sisters. [E] Kids, Education of own expences, death, moksha, shaiya sukh. [F] Income of Mother's younger brothers and sisters. Anil Sachdev Astrologer-Ahmedabad-India. 09427522544 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, renu sachdev <omshiva_renu wrote: renu sachdev <omshiva_renu Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:21 AM dear all, 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. anil sachdev 09427522544 astologer omshiva_renu@ --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> wrote: eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@ gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ s .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm@ . co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@grou p s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@gro u ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Mr. Rishirahul, Without specifics I am clueless as to what you were referring to or talking about ... Yours logically, RR vedic astrology , RishiRahul <rishirahul1961 wrote: > > > Absolutely logical, Dada. And actually so correct in actuality. > > Reminds me of an afflicted 4th house being important in taking people abroad for settlement. And also an unafflicted 4th. house in that respect. > > RishiRahul > > vedic astrology > jyotish_vani > Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:16:53 +0000 > [vedic astrology] Re: 4th house - I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th has been depicted as the " resting place " . > > > > Some have interpreted as the grave or state of finality/death, others > > as being at the mother's bosom, some have used the term: > > contentment/santosh,shanti and so on. > > > > I once had a very dear friend who was a dhanu lagna and even when we > > were teenagers (TA) he shared something smilingly that stays on with > > me till today. He said, " If I have to ask God for anything, I will > > not ask riches, luxuries, happiness, joy, exaltation or exultation. I > > will ask for contentment or Santosh as we call it in hindi " > > > > One who has attained santosh is indeed resting fully! > > > > I think Cats *know* something that we humans do not really! Observe a > > cat when you get a chance! > > > > RR > > > > vedic astrology , renu sachdev > > <omshiva_renu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear all, > > > 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of > > life partner, adventures, small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, > > expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. > > father in law. > > > anil sachdev > > > 09427522544 > > > astologer > > > omshiva_renu@ > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro@ <eastro@> wrote: > > > > > > eastro@ <eastro@> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are > > signified by the > > > Fourth > > > > > > Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo > > > Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha > > > Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi > > > Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! > > > > > > With warm regards > > > > > > G Kumar > > > Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo > > > http://www.eastrove dica.net/ > > > > > > Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove > > dica.info > > > > > > - > > > " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > > > > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies@ . > > com>; > > > <astroriber@gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology@ . com>; > > > <brahmin@ .com>; <brahmin_world@ . > > co.in>; " brahimn tvm > > > group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus@ . > > com>; > > > <HARE_RAM@ s.com>; <>; > > > <4brahmins@grou ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; > > > <vandenikhilam> > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM > > > [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > > > > > > Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, > > I > > > believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, > > there are > > > many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets > > related to > > > this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you > > kindly explain > > > in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. > > > > > > Dear Mr. Arun: > > > > > > In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives > > lot of > > > details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of > > life. I > > > may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you > > some of > > > the details required by you. > > > VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI > > > SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | > > > MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI > > > CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and > > possibility > > > of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling > > substances, d. Cows > > > (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, > > > g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). > > > Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. > > > Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few > > of > > > selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: > > > > > > 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure > > the > > > quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th > > Bhava > > > occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is > > associated > > > with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning > > and > > > humility. > > > 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the > > lord of > > > that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. > > > 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, > > or in > > > aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of > > rational > > > intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a > > > child/person being autistic) > > > If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result > > could be > > > identified. > > > If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in > > a chart > > > in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a > > inimical > > > signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the > > person > > > will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent > > and /or could > > > judge with reason in his life. > > > 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be > > in the > > > bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or > > Kendra > > > positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, > > and will > > > be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified > > persons to > > > attain high standard of life. > > > > > > Mother: > > > > > > 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on > > other > > > counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra > > to Lagna, > > > and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to > > be > > > strong, the natives mother will have a long life. > > > 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th > > Bhava is in > > > 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a > > malefic > > > Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the > > > appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with > > above > > > listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) > > > 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart > > is > > > associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th > > House as > > > also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart > > ( 'Gochara' > > > movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at > > that > > > time. > > > 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava > > of a birth > > > chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava > > occupies a > > > Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother > > could happen > > > in the period arrived at similar to above. > > > 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, > > and the > > > Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of > > 4th Bhava > > > is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is > > seen. > > > > > > Father: > > > > > > 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or > > luxury, > > > a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in > > occupation of > > > 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord > > of 6th > > > bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th > > bhava, > > > occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for > > the same > > > effect. > > > 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with > > Lord of 4th > > > bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will > > be one > > > recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or > > > prodigal. > > > > > > Wrong relations: > > > 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` > > > DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW > > > KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: > > > SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || > > > If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic > > Planet or > > > if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or > > in aspect > > > of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause > > sexual > > > intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. > > > 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th > > bhava and > > > with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th > > bhava), > > > the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. > > The Sun > > > and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining > > the > > > passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) > > > To be continued ... > > > Pathi (10th February 2009) > > > Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. > > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill, > > > North Carolina, 27514, USA > > > 001-919-960- 3833 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rahul, " Happy *Valantine's* day!!..Is the " selibration " over? Thank you, Gaurav. http://gauravastro.150m.com P.S.:- Is the topic related to 5th house of romance & love affairs or 4th house of friends & mother? Gaurav. vedic astrology , Parmar Rahul <rahul_mechengg49 wrote: > > Dear all > > no coment for this topic because today we were selibrate VALANTINE'S DAY > so all friends HAPPY VALANTINE'S DAY > > Regard > > Rahul > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dear All, 4th house is one of the important houses for settelling abroad, it is our own house. If 4th house, its planet, its karak, planets in it, planets in relation to all these, are good then we are happy in our birth place. If all above are not good, we are made to shift from our birth place. Many horoscopes, houses, planets, dashas, are deeply to be studied for finalisation. Clubbing palmistry, numerology, samudrashastra, vastushastra, k.p. system, lal kitab, bhrigusanhitas, nadi jyotish, vaidik shaktis, vidhis, gochar etc. helps perfection. Anil Sachdev-09427522544 [Engineer, PGDMM] Jyotish Ratnam , Jyotish Tilak. Astrologer - Ahmedabad - India. omshiva_renu --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani [vedic astrology] Re: 4th house - I vedic astrology Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:30 PM Mr. Rishirahul, Without specifics I am clueless as to what you were referring to or talking about ... Yours logically, RR vedic astrology, RishiRahul <rishirahul1961@ ...> wrote: > > > Absolutely logical, Dada. And actually so correct in actuality. > > Reminds me of an afflicted 4th house being important in taking people abroad for settlement. And also an unafflicted 4th. house in that respect. > > RishiRahul > > vedic astrology > jyotish_vani@ ... > Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:16:53 +0000 > [vedic astrology] Re: 4th house - I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th has been depicted as the " resting place " . > > > > Some have interpreted as the grave or state of finality/death, others > > as being at the mother's bosom, some have used the term: > > contentment/ santosh,shanti and so on. > > > > I once had a very dear friend who was a dhanu lagna and even when we > > were teenagers (TA) he shared something smilingly that stays on with > > me till today. He said, " If I have to ask God for anything, I will > > not ask riches, luxuries, happiness, joy, exaltation or exultation. I > > will ask for contentment or Santosh as we call it in hindi " > > > > One who has attained santosh is indeed resting fully! > > > > I think Cats *know* something that we humans do not really! Observe a > > cat when you get a chance! > > > > RR > > > > vedic astrology, renu sachdev > > <omshiva_renu@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear all, > > > 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of > > life partner, adventures, small > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, > > expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. > > father in law. > > > anil sachdev > > > 09427522544 > > > astologer > > > omshiva_renu@ > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro@ <eastro@> wrote: > > > > > > eastro@ <eastro@> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are > > signified by the > > > Fourth > > > > > > Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo > > > Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha > > > Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi > > > Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! > > > > > > With warm regards > > > > > > G Kumar > > > Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo > > > http://www.eastrove dica.net/ > > > > > > Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove > > dica.info > > > > > > - > > > " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > > > > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies@ . > > com>; > > > <astroriber@ gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology@ . com>; > > > <brahmin@ s .com>; <brahmin_world@ . > > co.in>; " brahimn tvm > > > group " <kbstvm@ . co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus@ . > > com>; > > > <HARE_RAM@grou p s.com>; <>; > > > <4brahmins@gro u ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; > > > <vandenikhilam> > > > Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM > > > [vedic astrology] 4th house - I > > > > > > Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, > > I > > > believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, > > there are > > > many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets > > related to > > > this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you > > kindly explain > > > in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. > > > > > > Dear Mr. Arun: > > > > > > In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives > > lot of > > > details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of > > life. I > > > may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you > > some of > > > the details required by you. > > > VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI > > > SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | > > > MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI > > > CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and > > possibility > > > of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling > > substances, d. Cows > > > (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, > > > g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). > > > Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. > > > Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few > > of > > > selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: > > > > > > 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure > > the > > > quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th > > Bhava > > > occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is > > associated > > > with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning > > and > > > humility. > > > 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the > > lord of > > > that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. > > > 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, > > or in > > > aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of > > rational > > > intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a > > > child/person being autistic) > > > If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result > > could be > > > identified. > > > If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in > > a chart > > > in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a > > inimical > > > signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the > > person > > > will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent > > and /or could > > > judge with reason in his life. > > > 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be > > in the > > > bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or > > Kendra > > > positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, > > and will > > > be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified > > persons to > > > attain high standard of life. > > > > > > Mother: > > > > > > 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on > > other > > > counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra > > to Lagna, > > > and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to > > be > > > strong, the natives mother will have a long life. > > > 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th > > Bhava is in > > > 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a > > malefic > > > Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the > > > appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with > > above > > > listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) > > > 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart > > is > > > associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th > > House as > > > also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart > > ( 'Gochara' > > > movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at > > that > > > time. > > > 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava > > of a birth > > > chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava > > occupies a > > > Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother > > could happen > > > in the period arrived at similar to above. > > > 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, > > and the > > > Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of > > 4th Bhava > > > is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is > > seen. > > > > > > Father: > > > > > > 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or > > luxury, > > > a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in > > occupation of > > > 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord > > of 6th > > > bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th > > bhava, > > > occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for > > the same > > > effect. > > > 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with > > Lord of 4th > > > bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will > > be one > > > recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or > > > prodigal. > > > > > > Wrong relations: > > > 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` > > > DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW > > > KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: > > > SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || > > > If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic > > Planet or > > > if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or > > in aspect > > > of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause > > sexual > > > intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. > > > 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th > > bhava and > > > with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th > > bhava), > > > the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. > > The Sun > > > and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining > > the > > > passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) > > > To be continued ... > > > Pathi (10th February 2009) > > > Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. > > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill, > > > North Carolina, 27514, USA > > > 001-919-960- 3833 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Mr Pathi & All learned Astrologers, Thanks a lot. I will keep it up. My humble request to all learned Astrologers is as below. How to learn / get total bhrigu sanhita / nadi jyotish books / knowledge, for 100% perfect predictions, with names of self , mother , father, life Parner from thumb print / Horoscope. Awaiting valued response earliest. Anil Sachdev - 9427522544 [ Automobile Engineer , PGDMM ] Astrologer [ since 1995 ] - Ahmedabad, India. Jyotish Tilak, Jyotish Ratnam. omshiva_renu asachdev This is further to 4th house, my horoscope given is a live example. Date of Birth : 28-02-1957 Place of Birth : Junagadh-Gujarat, India. [ As per Mother ] Agra-Uttar Pradesh, India. [ As per Birth Date Certificate & Horoscope ] Time of Birth : 18-15 P.M. Sinh Lagna, Kumbh Rashi, Vargottam Sun, Lagna ( Birth In Agra ). Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus in Kumbha, Mars in Mesh, Jupiter in Kanya, Shani, Rahu in Vrishchik, Ketu In vrishabh. Vinshotari Mahadasha Mars 18 month left. Rahu Mahadasha started after 18 months of my birth, i was shifted from my birth place. Just before the end of Rahu Mahadasha, I was shifted away from Mother, Father, for job. Guru Mahadasha started when I was 19 years & 6 months. During this I got money, own house, Automobiles, Wife, Further Education, Luxuries. This refers 4th house, I have Saturn, Rahu in 4th house, I am away from Birth Place since Childhood. I have Stheer Lagna and Rashi that makes me not go too far from Birth Place. 4th house is saved by it's owner Mars in 9th own house, observing own 4th house. I am setteled in Ahmedabad - Gujarat. My mother alive 73 years, dark complection, very dominating, no good relations with me since childhood, not staying with me, my father expired in 1981, I owned house with own income at 24 years age, Company Automobile at 25 years age, met with deadly accident on same at 29 years age, own Automobile at 30 years age. I owned Bunglow at age 46, Car at age 49. Awaiting deitaled study of respected Astrologers. Thanks with warm regards, Anil Sachdev --- On Fri, 2/13/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:34 AM Dear Mr. Anu Sachdev, Thanks for reminding me! Sure you read the last line 'to be continued' was in that mail. However, you, extremely learned greats now continue in that 'heading' to give the exemplary knowledge you have in the subject for others in the group to know more. I am not sending further on this . Blessings. Pathi ____________ _________ _________ __ renu sachdev <omshiva_renu@ > vedic astrology Friday, February 13, 2009 11:21:14 AM Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I dear all, 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. anil sachdev 09427522544 astologer omshiva_renu@ --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> wrote: eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@ gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ s .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm@ . co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@grou p s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@gro u ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 hi d renu how r u ________________________________ renu sachdev <omshiva_renu vedic astrology Friday, February 13, 2009 9:51:14 PM Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I dear all, 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. anil sachdev 09427522544 astologer omshiva_renu@ --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> wrote: eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@ gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ s .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm@ . co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@grou p s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@gro u ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I m fine, thanks, introduce yourself, anil sachdev --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Raj J <ellis_raju wrote: Raj J <ellis_raju Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 6:29 AM hi d renu how r u ____________ _________ _________ __ renu sachdev <omshiva_renu@ > vedic astrology Friday, February 13, 2009 9:51:14 PM Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I dear all, 4th house also is for happyness , old age, mid night, work house of life partner, adventures, small trips by money saved, money of younger brothers and sisters, expences for house, education, kids, income of enemy, loan, sickness. father in law. anil sachdev 09427522544 astologer omshiva_renu@ --- On Thu, 2/12/09, eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> wrote: eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in <eastro (AT) dataone (DOT) in> Re: [vedic astrology] 4th house - I vedic astrology Thursday, February 12, 2009, 7:42 PM Friends, uncle, mother, house, conveyances - all these are signified by the Fourth Matha Suhrut Mathula Bhagineyo Khetram Griham Vahanam Asanascha Lalityamamba Sayanamscha Vriddhi Paswadhikam Veshma Grihas Chathurthal ! With warm regards G Kumar Professional blogger, astro scholar & ceo http://www.eastrove dica.net/ Submit your news, blogs & sites free at http://www.eastrove dica.info - " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > <asthikasamaj>; <astro_remedies>; <astroriber@ gro ups.com>; <vedic astrology>; <brahmin@ s .com>; <brahmin_world@ . co.in>; " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm@ . co.in>; <CaribbeanHindus>; <HARE_RAM@grou p s.com>; <>; <4brahmins@gro u ps.com>; <shaneeswara>; <vandenikhilam> Friday, February 13, 2009 12:32 AM [vedic astrology] 4th house - I Qn: Sir, I am sure the fourth Bhava is related to Mother. However, I believe, there are other matters are related to this Bhava. Also, there are many interpretations by various authors on 4th Bhava, and Planets related to this House, and its contributions. I will be grateful, if you kindly explain in detail about analyzing this house. Thank you :: Arun, Fer.. Dear Mr. Arun: In short, 4th house in a birth chart is very important and gives lot of details of the person, and to whom he is born, from birth to end of life. I may not be able to list all in a message. However, I will give you some of the details required by you. VANDHATHI VIDHYAJANANI SUGANDHAGOMBHADUMAN O GUNA : NI | MAHEEMPAYANASHITHIM -MATHIRAANNI CHATHURTHABHAVA PRABHAVAANNI THAJJAA: || 59 ||a. The growth and possibility of learning; b. The welfare of Mother; c. Sweet Smelling substances, d. Cows (Kine), e. Relations, f. Mental Attributes, g. Luxury Vehicles, h. Lands and houses ( Immovable Properties). Similar explanations are found in 'Jathaka Rathna' also. Sukam Gruham ....Vahanamththra samjam ||Now I will give you a few of selected Planetary influences referred to this FOURTH House: 1. The Fourth Bhava, if occupied by its LORD, (you have to measure the quality gained by Planet when occupying this house) or if that 4th Bhava occupant is in aspect of a benefic Planet, or that occupant is associated with a benefic Planet - the person born is amiable for his learning and humility. 2. The educational achievement will be very high, if Mercury is the lord of that 4th Bhava, and strongest among all Planets in that birth chart. 3. When Lord of the 4th Bhava, occupies a dusthana in that chart, or in aspect or associated with a malefic Planet, he will be void of rational intelligence/ education. (This rule is very important in judging a child/person being autistic) If the Lord of 4th Bhava is in a Malefic Rasi, the same result could be identified. If Jupiter and Mercury, along with Lord of 4th Bhava, positioned in a chart in 3rd,6th, 8th, or 12th house from Lagna, or if they are in a inimical signs, or any of them in a depression sign, will indicate that the person will be devoid of education, taste for learning, intelligent and /or could judge with reason in his life. 4. If Jupiter and Mercury along with 4th lord (or of their own) be in the bhava of exaltation, or in their own houses, or in a Trikonas or Kendra positions the person born will have fortune, learning, education, and will be revered in the company of similar intelligent and qualified persons to attain high standard of life. Mother: 1. When Venus has more power occupying in it's own or exalted or on other counts, with Moon occupying a benefic portion in a sign in Kendra to Lagna, and in aspect of a benefic Planet, while 4th Bhava is recognized to be strong, the natives mother will have a long life. 2. The mother will be lost by the native, if the lord of the 4th Bhava is in 6th or 12th Bhava from lagna in a birth chart, and in aspect of a malefic Planet, in the related period in his life. ( When this is noted the appropriate period as per 'Gochara' to form this combination with above listed Planets should be accounted before coming to conclusion) 3. Similarly, as in the above, if the Waning Moon in a birth chart is associated with a malefic Planet and placed in 5th, 8th or 12th House as also a Malefic Planet occupied in 4th Bhava of a birth chart ( 'Gochara' movement to be taken to find this), there will be loss of Mother at that time. 4. The loss of Mother is also indicated, when Saturn in 4th Bhava of a birth chart, is in aspect of a Malefic Planet, and Lord of 8th Bhava occupies a Bhava of its inimical house or depression, then loss of Mother could happen in the period arrived at similar to above. 5. Mother's ailment: When a malefic planet is in 3rd or 5th bhava, and the Moon is associated with Malefic Planet or Planets, and the Lord of 4th Bhava is in depression or in an inimical sign, the mother's ailment is seen. Father: 1.Father of the Natal is subjected to excessive bodily enjoyment or luxury, a sensualist - voluptuary - , when the Lord of 4th bhava is in occupation of 9th bhava in the birth chart, and is in conjunction with the lord of 6th bhava. Similar deductions could be arrived, if the Lord of 4th bhava, occupying 4th bhava in conjunction with the lord of 9th bhava for the same effect. 2. If the 9th bhava is occupied in the birth chart of one, with Lord of 4th bhava and 6th bhava, will produce the result that his father will be one recklessly extravagant or wasteful, abandoned to vice, dissolute or prodigal. Wrong relations: 1. PA PESHITHE PAPAYUTHE SASANNKE` DHIVAKARE VAAYADHI KENDRASOUW KRURRE SUKKEVA YADHI PAADHRUSTE KJATHTHOW NARA: SYDDHYADHI MATHRUGAAMI ||69||JP || If the moon be associated with as well as in aspect by a malefic Planet or if the Sun occupy a Kendra, AND the 4th bhava be either malefic or in aspect of a malefic in his birth chart, the person so born will cause sexual intercourse with the prohibited degrees with his mother. 2. If the Moon is in conjunction with Mars occupying in the 4th bhava and with the lord of the 6th bhava (the Moon + Mars + lord of the 6th bhava), the mother of the person born will have had intrigues with another. The Sun and Rahu in the forth Bhava will make the mother not restraining the passions or appetite - unchaste (incontinent) To be continued ... Pathi (10th February 2009) Sri Vaidhyanatha Dikshita's Jathaka Parijatha - Adhyaya 12. 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