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Dear Kasim,

 

> I find it wonderful how you remain calm

> despite apparently negative comments

 

I no longer take these things personally, even when comments appear to be

personal. What others say, do and think of me matters very little to me, as long

as it is not interfering with or blocking my dharma. If I take on someone, it

is, in my mind, to the extent needed in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage

in actions that fulfil what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid

distractions to the best of my ability.

 

When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things to one. But it

is just a drama and there is no need to take it personally. Just play *your*

role and be done with the drama. The same actor may have said good things about

you in a previous scene or in a previous drama or may say good things a few

scenes later or in a future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and

people we interact with are characters in the drama.

 

* * *

 

> I wonder if you can give an example how

> you use HL in the approach below.

 

HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver of life and

vitality in general, but not specifically for money. Thus, I do not consider HL

to be so important for money. In fact, classics specifically mention HL in the

context of longevity and death, but not really money.

 

I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise and a factor of

2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

 

* * *

 

In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and 11th lord Saturn

are strong and together in the 7th house of business. Venus has half aspect on

lagna within a degree and he connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2 with lagna.

His dasa ran from 1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial success.

 

Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and 9th lords from

Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th from Me10. Venus has half

aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa made him well-known for his work

too.

 

* * *

 

I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at 7:54:30 pm (IST)

at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn antardasa

brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn. From Ju2, Saturn is the

8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th

aspect and also has 3/4th aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he

brings poorva punya and windfall to the person.

 

In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the 2nd and 5th lord

in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved again. He is with lagna

lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect. Jupiter's annual TA dasa was

running at the time of lottery win.

 

In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord

in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual Patyayini dasa was running.

 

* * *

 

I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is just

research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

 

-

Kasim Khan

sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

; sjcboston ; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I

find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from

your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

 

I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You

can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts.

 

Best wishes

 

Kasim

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology ; ;

sohamsa ; sjcBoston

pvr

Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

Planetary Special Lagna Research

 



 

Namaste,

 

> You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

> specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information

> as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail

> I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology.

> I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not

covered by any classic or modern book.

 

Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and

followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my

limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

 

I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please

ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the

knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.

 

* * *

 

Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We

can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and

Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7

revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of

next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research "

feature can be used to show it in charts.

 

If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you

get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has

to do with marriage.

 

Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and

houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that

Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage

(based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with

lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

 

* * *

 

Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the

natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna

lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th

lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma

from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married.

 

Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is

in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter.

Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and

hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in

Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

 

Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is

in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord

Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he

aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His

annual TA dasa gave marriage.

 

Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is

in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with

Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa

started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is

aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as

per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in

Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in

Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

 

Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST),

72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting

lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on

lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in

Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th

lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun

also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects

lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of

GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7

has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn

is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

 

In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected

by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per

annual TA dasa.

 

* * *

 

Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other

planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area

for research.

 

For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises,

progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in

reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes

sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas

activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual

detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th

house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting

coincidence.

 

* * *

 

GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna

notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political

power based on my research.

 

Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord

Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April

2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the

8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

 

Let us see one more example.

 

Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am

(IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects

lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central

minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna

(he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in

2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can

give political power again.

 

In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter.

He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA

dasa.

 

Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT),

Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika

dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter

antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from

GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna

lord.

 

In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn.

He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual

TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections.

 

* * *

 

Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be

important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate

nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

-

Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

jhora

Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri

Narasimharaogaru

 

Sri Narasimharao garu,

 

Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of

special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I

am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be

grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

with regards,

S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

 

 

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shedding what is not essential.

 

Only a GURU can make that happen. You are blessed that way!

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

<pvr wrote:

>

> Dear Kasim,

>

> > I find it wonderful how you remain calm

> > despite apparently negative comments

>

> I no longer take these things personally, even when comments appear

to be personal. What others say, do and think of me matters very

little to me, as long as it is not interfering with or blocking my

dharma. If I take on someone, it is, in my mind, to the extent needed

in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage in actions that fulfil

what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid distractions

to the best of my ability.

>

> When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things to

one. But it is just a drama and there is no need to take it

personally. Just play *your* role and be done with the drama. The

same actor may have said good things about you in a previous scene or

in a previous drama or may say good things a few scenes later or in a

future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and people we

interact with are characters in the drama.

>

> * * *

>

> > I wonder if you can give an example how

> > you use HL in the approach below.

>

> HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver

of life and vitality in general, but not specifically for money.

Thus, I do not consider HL to be so important for money. In fact,

classics specifically mention HL in the context of longevity and

death, but not really money.

>

> I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise and

a factor of 2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

>

> * * *

>

> In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and

11th lord Saturn are strong and together in the 7th house of

business. Venus has half aspect on lagna within a degree and he

connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2 with lagna. His dasa ran from

1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial success.

>

> Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and 9th

lords from Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th

from Me10. Venus has half aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa

made him well-known for his work too.

>

> * * *

>

> I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at

7:54:30 pm (IST) at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a

lottery on 2002 June 20.

>

> Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn

antardasa brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn.

From Ju2, Saturn is the 8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of

poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th aspect and also has 3/4th

aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he brings poorva

punya and windfall to the person.

>

> In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the 2nd

and 5th lord in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved

again. He is with lagna lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect.

Jupiter's annual TA dasa was running at the time of lottery win.

>

> In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is 2nd

and 5th lord in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual

Patyayini dasa was running.

>

> * * *

>

> I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is

just research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> -

> Kasim Khan

> sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

; sjcboston ; Narasimha

P.V.R. Rao

> Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

> RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

>

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly

written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently

negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

>

> I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the

approach below. You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or

Richard Branson's charts.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Kasim

>

>

> --

----------

>

> vedic astrology ;

; sohamsa ;

sjcBoston

> pvr

> Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

> Planetary Special Lagna Research

>

> 

>

> Namaste,

>

> > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

> > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

information

> > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in

detail

> > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology.

> > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

>

> This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara.

So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.

>

> Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just

generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with

some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special

planetary lagnas to be interesting.

>

> I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to

you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please

feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it

freely.

>

> * * *

>

> Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati

lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time

Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same

longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac

and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of

Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about

24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research "

feature can be used to show it in charts.

>

> If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed

factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and

authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.

>

> Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as

references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my

experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for

marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is

related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some

manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

>

> * * *

>

> Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,

16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7

is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-

Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is

Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in

the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the

native got married.

>

> Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,

15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins

lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama

dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage

happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

>

> Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,

16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th

aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-

Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in

lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th

from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

>

> Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23,

16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its

lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th

aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars

antardasa gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from

Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-

Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

>

> Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,

16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects

it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.

>

> Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord

from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage

happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

>

> Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am

(IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and

he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th

from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu

antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.

>

> Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought

marriage.

>

> Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15.

Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by

8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor

of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in

Mars-Sun antardasa.

>

> Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus

and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa

brought marriage.

>

> Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs

west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in

Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama

dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got

married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

>

> In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7

is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in

Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

>

> * * *

>

> Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas

based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also

be used. This is an area for research.

>

> For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu

rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the

zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12

is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-

zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and

lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen.

Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo

Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th

house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very

interesting coincidence.

>

> * * *

>

> GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special

planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to

lagna can bring political power based on my research.

>

> Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He

joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter

dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his

presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he

is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

>

> Let us see one more example.

>

> Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5,

10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is

Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in

1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in

12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti

and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005

brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects

lagna. He can give political power again.

>

> In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL

is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister

in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.

>

> Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of

GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in

vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became

a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-

Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.

Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

>

> In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL

is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in

Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential

elections.

>

> * * *

>

> Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem

to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the

most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts

(using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

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> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

 

> -

> Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

> jhora

> Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

> jhora re: special lagna clarification given by

Sri Narasimharaogaru

>

> Sri Narasimharao garu,

>

> Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting

aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may

kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know

these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly

enlighten me on this.

>

> with regards,

> S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

>

>

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Dear Kasim,

 

> I find it wonderful how you remain calm

> despite apparently negative comments

 

I no longer take these things personally, even when comments appear to be

personal. What others say, do and think of me matters very little to me, as long

as it is not interfering with or blocking my dharma. If I take on someone, it

is, in my mind, to the extent needed in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage

in actions that fulfil what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid

distractions to the best of my ability.

 

When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things to one. But it

is just a drama and there is no need to take it personally. Just play *your*

role and be done with the drama. The same actor may have said good things about

you in a previous scene or in a previous drama or may say good things a few

scenes later or in a future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and

people we interact with are characters in the drama.

 

* * *

 

> I wonder if you can give an example how

> you use HL in the approach below.

 

HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver of life and

vitality in general, but not specifically for money. Thus, I do not consider HL

to be so important for money. In fact, classics specifically mention HL in the

context of longevity and death, but not really money.

 

I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise and a factor of

2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

 

* * *

 

In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and 11th lord Saturn

are strong and together in the 7th house of business. Venus has half aspect on

lagna within a degree and he connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2 with lagna.

His dasa ran from 1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial success.

 

Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and 9th lords from

Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th from Me10. Venus has half

aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa made him well-known for his work

too.

 

* * *

 

I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at 7:54:30 pm (IST)

at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn antardasa

brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn. From Ju2, Saturn is the

8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th

aspect and also has 3/4th aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he

brings poorva punya and windfall to the person.

 

In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the 2nd and 5th lord

in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved again. He is with lagna

lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect. Jupiter's annual TA dasa was

running at the time of lottery win.

 

In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord

in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual Patyayini dasa was running.

 

* * *

 

I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is just

research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

 

-

Kasim Khan

sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

; sjcboston ; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I

find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from

your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

 

I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You

can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts.

 

Best wishes

 

Kasim

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology ; ;

sohamsa ; sjcBoston

pvr

Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

Planetary Special Lagna Research

 



 

Namaste,

 

> You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

> specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information

> as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail

> I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology.

> I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not

covered by any classic or modern book.

 

Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and

followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my

limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

 

I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please

ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the

knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.

 

* * *

 

Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We

can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and

Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7

revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of

next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research "

feature can be used to show it in charts.

 

If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you

get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has

to do with marriage.

 

Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and

houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that

Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage

(based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with

lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

 

* * *

 

Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the

natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna

lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th

lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma

from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married.

 

Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is

in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter.

Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and

hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in

Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

 

Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is

in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord

Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he

aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His

annual TA dasa gave marriage.

 

Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is

in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with

Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa

started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is

aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as

per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in

Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in

Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

 

Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST),

72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting

lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on

lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in

Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th

lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun

also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects

lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of

GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7

has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn

is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

 

In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected

by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per

annual TA dasa.

 

* * *

 

Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other

planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area

for research.

 

For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises,

progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in

reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes

sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas

activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual

detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th

house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting

coincidence.

 

* * *

 

GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna

notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political

power based on my research.

 

Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord

Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April

2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the

8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

 

Let us see one more example.

 

Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am

(IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects

lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central

minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna

(he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in

2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can

give political power again.

 

In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter.

He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA

dasa.

 

Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT),

Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika

dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter

antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from

GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna

lord.

 

In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn.

He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual

TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections.

 

* * *

 

Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be

important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate

nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

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-

Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

jhora

Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri

Narasimharaogaru

 

Sri Narasimharao garu,

 

Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of

special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I

am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be

grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

with regards,

S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

 

 

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Narasimha,

Bill Gates: Assuming Ju2 as 2nd

house from natal Jupiter, I get Ju2 in Virgo. Please correct me if my

understanding of Ju2 is correct!

 

Date:          October 28, 1955

Time:          21:18:00

Time Zone:     8:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place:         122 W 20' 00 " , 47 N 36'

00 "

 

Next Example:

I get Leo lagna in Rashi and Scorpio in

Navamsa! Ju in Virgo and as per my understanding Ju2 in Libra! Something is not

ok.

 

Date:          February 12, 1957

Time:          19:54:30

Time Zone:     5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place:         78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49'

00 "

               Tiruchirappalli, India

 

 

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Sunday, February 15, 2009

11:58 PM

Kasim Khan; sohamsa ;

vedic astrology ; ;

sjcboston

Re: Planetary

Special Lagna Research (HL and Ju2)

 

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Dear Kasim,

 

 

 

 

 

> I find it wonderful how you remain calm

 

 

> despite apparently negative comments

 

 

 

 

 

I no longer take these things personally, even when comments

appear to be personal. What others say, do and think of me matters

very little to me, as long as it is not interfering with or blocking my dharma.

If I take on someone, it is, in my mind, to the extent needed in order to

fulfil my own dharma. I engage in actions that fulfil what I see as my dharma

in this world and try to avoid distractions to the best of my ability.

 

 

 

 

 

When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad

things to one. But it is just a drama and there is no need to take it

personally. Just play *your* role and be done with the drama. The same actor

may have said good things about you in a previous scene or in a previous

drama or may say good things a few scenes later or in a future drama. This life

is just a big stage drama and people we interact with are characters in the

drama.

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

> I wonder if you can give an example how

 

 

> you use HL in the approach below.

 

 

 

 

 

HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the

giver of life and vitality in general, but not specifically for money. Thus, I

do not consider HL to be so important for money. In fact, classics specifically

mention HL in the context of longevity and death, but not really money.

 

 

 

 

 

I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's

rise and a factor of 2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus

and 11th lord Saturn are strong and together in the 7th house of business. Venus

has half aspect on lagna within a degree and he connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th

from Ju2 with lagna. His dasa ran from 1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him

financial success.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th

and 9th lords from Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th from

Me10. Venus has half aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa made him

well-known for his work too.

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at

7:54:30 pm (IST) at Thiruchirapalli,

India (78e41,

10n49) won a lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

 

 

 

 

Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies.

Saturn-Saturn antardasa brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in

Cn. From Ju2, Saturn is the 8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of poorva

punya. He aspects lagna by 10th aspect and also has 3/4th aspect on lagna lord

Moon within half a degree. So he brings poorva punya and windfall to the

person.

 

 

 

 

 

In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is

the 2nd and 5th lord in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved

again. He is with lagna lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect. Jupiter's

annual TA dasa was running at the time of lottery win.

 

 

 

 

 

In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter

is 2nd and 5th lord in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual Patyayini

dasa was running.

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna

thing is just research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software

(Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC)

website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Kasim Khan

 

 

sohamsa

; vedic astrology

;

; sjcboston

; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

 

 

 

Sunday, February

15, 2009 5:32 PM

 

 

RE:

Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

 

 

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I

find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from

your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

 

I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You

can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts.

 

Best wishes

 

Kasim

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology ;

;

sohamsa ; sjcBoston

pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net

Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

Planetary Special Lagna Research

 



 

Namaste,

 

 

 

 

 

> You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special

lagna and

 

 

> specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly

give the information

 

 

> as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts

in detail

 

 

> I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on

Astrology.

 

 

> I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on

this.

 

 

 

 

 

This is just research. It is not from a classic or a

parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.

 

 

 

 

 

Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just

generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some

practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary

lagnas to be interesting.

 

 

 

 

 

I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense

to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free

to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a

special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it

" Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are

conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7

revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of

next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna

research " feature can be used to show it in charts.

 

 

 

 

 

If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the

speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and

authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Use of Ve7: Parasara said that

BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just

like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important

for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is

related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the

annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a

strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

Example 1: Birthdata is 1970

April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge.

The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other.

Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of

Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in

the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got

married.

 

 

 

 

 

Example 2: Birthdata is 1970

October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per

Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave

marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord

from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage

happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Example 3: Birthdata is 1973

July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7.

Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord

from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna

and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with

lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Example 4: Birthdata is 1971

September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and

lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars

aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna,

Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house

from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter

antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

 

 

 

Example 5: Birthdata is 1975

July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and

Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th

lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage

happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata

is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord

from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect

on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu

antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought

marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Example 7: Birthdata is 1972

June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp.

Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He

joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married

in Mars-Sun antardasa.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and

he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought

marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata

is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " ,

41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord

Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that

dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

 

 

 

 

 

In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th

from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in

Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special

lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be

used. This is an area for research.

 

 

 

 

 

For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when

Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally*

at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24

hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the

12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between

that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen.

Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and

Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when

counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special

planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can

bring political power based on my research.

 

 

 

 

 

Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter.

He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa

during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency

(political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his

antardasa, his second term ended.

 

 

 

 

 

Let us see one more example.

 

 

 

 

 

Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata

is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from

GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997

and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from

GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi

drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon

antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from

GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again.

 

 

 

 

 

In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord

from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in

Jupiter's annual TA dasa.

 

 

 

 

 

Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata

is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " ,

42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna

applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in

Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon

is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

 

 

 

 

 

In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord

from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in

Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections.

 

 

 

 

 

*

* *

 

 

 

 

 

Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas

seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most

appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi

Ashtottari dasa).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

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jhora

 

 

 

Sunday, February

08, 2009 11:43 AM

 

 

jhora re:

special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sri Narasimharao garu,

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to

which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years

oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if

you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

 

 

 

 

with regards,

 

 

S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

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Namaste,

 

In the lottery example, birthdate is not February 12. I made a typo. It is

February 2.

 

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Kasim Khan ; sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

; sjcboston

Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:57 PM

Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research (HL and Ju2)

 

 

Dear Kasim,

 

> I find it wonderful how you remain calm

> despite apparently negative comments

 

I no longer take these things personally, even when comments appear to be

personal. What others say, do and think of me matters very little to me, as long

as it is not interfering with or blocking my dharma. If I take on someone, it

is, in my mind, to the extent needed in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage

in actions that fulfil what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid

distractions to the best of my ability.

 

When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things to one. But

it is just a drama and there is no need to take it personally. Just play *your*

role and be done with the drama. The same actor may have said good things about

you in a previous scene or in a previous drama or may say good things a few

scenes later or in a future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and

people we interact with are characters in the drama.

 

* * *

 

> I wonder if you can give an example how

> you use HL in the approach below.

 

HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver of life and

vitality in general, but not specifically for money. Thus, I do not consider HL

to be so important for money. In fact, classics specifically mention HL in the

context of longevity and death, but not really money.

 

I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise and a factor

of 2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

 

* * *

 

In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and 11th lord

Saturn are strong and together in the 7th house of business. Venus has half

aspect on lagna within a degree and he connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2

with lagna. His dasa ran from 1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial

success.

 

Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and 9th lords from

Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th from Me10. Venus has half

aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa made him well-known for his work

too.

 

* * *

 

I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at 7:54:30 pm (IST)

at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn antardasa

brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn. From Ju2, Saturn is the

8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th

aspect and also has 3/4th aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he

brings poorva punya and windfall to the person.

 

In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the 2nd and 5th

lord in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved again. He is with

lagna lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect. Jupiter's annual TA dasa was

running at the time of lottery win.

 

In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is 2nd and 5th

lord in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual Patyayini dasa was

running.

 

* * *

 

I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is just

research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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; sjcboston ; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I

find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from

your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

 

I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below.

You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts.

 

Best wishes

 

Kasim

 

 

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vedic astrology ; ;

sohamsa ; sjcBoston

pvr

Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

Planetary Special Lagna Research

 



 

Namaste,

 

> You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

> specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information

> as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail

> I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology.

> I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not

covered by any classic or modern book.

 

Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it

and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my

limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

 

I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please

ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the

knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.

 

* * *

 

Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc.

We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna

and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete

7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of

next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research "

feature can be used to show it in charts.

 

If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you

get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has

to do with marriage.

 

Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and

houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that

Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage

(based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with

lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

 

* * *

 

Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the

natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna

lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and

7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of

dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married.

 

Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is

in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter.

Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and

hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in

Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

 

Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is

in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord

Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he

aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His

annual TA dasa gave marriage.

 

Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7

is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is

with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa

started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is

aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as

per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in

Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in

Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

 

Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST),

72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting

lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on

lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in

Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th

lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun

also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects

lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of

GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7

has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn

is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

 

In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is

aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu

antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

 

* * *

 

Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on

other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an

area for research.

 

For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises,

progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in

reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes

sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas

activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual

detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th

house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting

coincidence.

 

* * *

 

GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna

notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political

power based on my research.

 

Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna

lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April

2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power).

Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second

term ended.

 

Let us see one more example.

 

Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am

(IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects

lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central

minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna

(he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in

2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can

give political power again.

 

In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is

Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's

annual TA dasa.

 

Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT),

Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika

dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter

antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from

GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna

lord.

 

In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn.

He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual

TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections.

 

* * *

 

Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be

important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate

nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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jhora

Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri

Narasimharaogaru

 

Sri Narasimharao garu,

 

Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of

special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I

am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be

grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

with regards,

S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

 

 

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Narasimha garu!

 

>I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at

>7:54:30 pm (IST) at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a

>lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

>Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn

>antardasa brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn.

 

Something is wrong with the Data. I am getting Ju2 in Leo.

 

Lagna is Leo but D9 falls in Scorpio.

 

please check.

 

Best Regards

 

Utpal

sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Dear Kasim,

>

> > I find it wonderful how you remain calm

> > despite apparently negative comments

>

> I no longer take these things personally, even when comments

appear to be personal. What others say, do and think of me matters

very little to me, as long as it is not interfering with or blocking

my dharma. If I take on someone, it is, in my mind, to the extent

needed in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage in actions that

fulfil what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid

distractions to the best of my ability.

>

> When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things

to one. But it is just a drama and there is no need to take it

personally. Just play *your* role and be done with the drama. The

same actor may have said good things about you in a previous scene

or in a previous drama or may say good things a few scenes later or

in a future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and people we

interact with are characters in the drama.

>

> * * *

>

> > I wonder if you can give an example how

> > you use HL in the approach below.

>

> HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver

of life and vitality in general, but not specifically for money.

Thus, I do not consider HL to be so important for money. In fact,

classics specifically mention HL in the context of longevity and

death, but not really money.

>

> I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise

and a factor of 2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

>

> * * *

>

> In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and

11th lord Saturn are strong and together in the 7th house of

business. Venus has half aspect on lagna within a degree and he

connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2 with lagna. His dasa ran

from 1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial success.

>

> Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and

9th lords from Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in

5th from Me10. Venus has half aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus

dasa made him well-known for his work too.

>

> * * *

>

> I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at

7:54:30 pm (IST) at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a

lottery on 2002 June 20.

>

> Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn

antardasa brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn.

From Ju2, Saturn is the 8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of

poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th aspect and also has 3/4th

aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he brings poorva

punya and windfall to the person.

>

> In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the

2nd and 5th lord in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are

involved again. He is with lagna lord Rahu and aspects lagna with

9th aspect. Jupiter's annual TA dasa was running at the time of

lottery win.

>

> In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is

2nd and 5th lord in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual

Patyayini dasa was running.

>

> * * *

>

> I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is

just research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

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>

>

> -

> Kasim Khan

> sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

; sjcboston ; Narasimha

P.V.R. Rao

> Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

> RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

>

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly

written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently

negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

>

> I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the

approach below. You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or

Richard Branson's charts.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Kasim

>

>

> -

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>

> vedic astrology ;

; sohamsa ;

sjcBoston

> pvr

> Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

> Planetary Special Lagna Research

>

> 

>

> Namaste,

>

> > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

> > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

information

> > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in

detail

> > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on

Astrology.

> > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

>

> This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara.

So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.

>

> Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just

generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with

some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these

special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

>

> I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to

you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please

feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread

it freely.

>

> * * *

>

> Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati

lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time

Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same

longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac

and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of

Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in

about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna

research " feature can be used to show it in charts.

>

> If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed

factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and

authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.

>

> Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as

references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my

experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for

marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa)

is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some

manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

>

> * * *

>

> Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,

16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7

is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-

Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7

is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord

Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA

dasa, the native got married.

>

> Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,

15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins

lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama

dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage

happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

>

> Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,

16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th

aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-

Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in

lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th

from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

>

> Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23,

16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its

lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by

8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars

antardasa gave marriage.

>

> Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house

from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus.

Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

>

> Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,

16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects

it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.

>

> Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord

from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage

happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

>

> Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45

am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn

and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the

7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-

Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.

>

> Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought

marriage.

>

> Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12,

16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects

it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the

dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got

married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

>

> Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from

Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted

Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA

dasa brought marriage.

>

> Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4

hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is

in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati

sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa,

he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

>

> In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from

Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married

in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

>

> * * *

>

> Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas

based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can

also be used. This is an area for research.

>

> For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu

rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around

the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how

Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house

anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that

and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen.

Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo

Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th

house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very

interesting coincidence.

>

> * * *

>

> GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special

planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL

to lagna can bring political power based on my research.

>

> Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He

joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter

dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his

presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he

is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

>

> Let us see one more example.

>

> Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5,

10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is

Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in

1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in

12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti

and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005

brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects

lagna. He can give political power again.

>

> In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from

GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central

minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.

>

> Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west

of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in

vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became

a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-

Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.

Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

>

> In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from

GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord

Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in

presidential elections.

>

> * * *

>

> Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas

seem to be important for important events in both natal charts

(using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi

Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> --------------------------------

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> --------------------------------

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> -

> Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

> jhora

> Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

> jhora re: special lagna clarification given

by Sri Narasimharaogaru

>

> Sri Narasimharao garu,

>

> Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting

aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may

kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know

these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly

enlighten me on this.

>

> with regards,

> S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

>

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Dear Ramesh,

 

> Bill Gates: Assuming Ju2 as 2nd house from natal Jupiter, I get Ju2 in Virgo.

 

Why do you have to "assume" something? :-)

 

Anyway, your assumption is wrong. Read the first mail to see the definition of Ve7 and Ke12. Ju2 is similar.

 

Ju2 is similar to Horalagna (HL) defined by Parasara, except that Jupiter's rise is taken instead of Sun's rise.

 

In JHora, click "Edit" and "Planetary special lagnas (research)". Select Jupiter and 2 to get Ju2.

 

Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

-

Ramesh F. Gangaramani

sohamsa

Cc: pvr

Monday, February 16, 2009 1:54 PM

RE: Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research (HL and Ju2)

 

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Narasimha,

Bill Gates: Assuming Ju2 as 2nd house from natal Jupiter, I get Ju2 in Virgo. Please correct me if my understanding of Ju2 is correct!

 

October 28, 1955

Time: 21:18:00

Time Zone: 8:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 122 W 20' 00", 47 N 36' 00"

 

Next Example:

I get Leo lagna in Rashi and Scorpio in Navamsa! Ju in Virgo and as per my understanding Ju2 in Libra! Something is not ok.

 

February 12, 1957

Time: 19:54:30

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"

Tiruchirappalli, India

 

 

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. RaoSunday, February 15, 2009 11:58 PMKasim Khan; sohamsa ; vedic astrology ; ; sjcboston Subject: Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research (HL and Ju2)

 

 

 

 



 

Dear Kasim,

 

 

 

> I find it wonderful how you remain calm

 

> despite apparently negative comments

 

 

 

I no longer take these things personally, even when comments appear to be personal. What others say, do and think of me matters very little to me, as long as it is not interfering with or blocking my dharma. If I take on someone, it is, in my mind, to the extent needed in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage in actions that fulfil what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid distractions to the best of my ability.

 

 

 

When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things to one. But it is just a drama and there is no need to take it personally. Just play *your* role and be done with the drama. The same actor may have said good things about you in a previous scene or in a previous drama or may say good things a few scenes later or in a future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and people we interact with are characters in the drama.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

> I wonder if you can give an example how

 

> you use HL in the approach below.

 

 

 

HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver of life and vitality in general, but not specifically for money. Thus, I do not consider HL to be so important for money. In fact, classics specifically mention HL in the context of longevity and death, but not really money.

 

 

 

I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise and a factor of 2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and 11th lord Saturn are strong and together in the 7th house of business. Venus has half aspect on lagna within a degree and he connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2 with lagna. His dasa ran from 1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial success.

 

 

 

Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and 9th lords from Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th from Me10. Venus has half aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa made him well-known for his work too.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at 7:54:30 pm (IST) at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

 

 

Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn antardasa brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn. From Ju2, Saturn is the 8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th aspect and also has 3/4th aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he brings poorva punya and windfall to the person.

 

 

 

In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the 2nd and 5th lord in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved again. He is with lagna lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect. Jupiter's annual TA dasa was running at the time of lottery win.

 

 

 

In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual Patyayini dasa was running.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is just research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

 

 

 

Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

 

-

 

Kasim Khan

 

sohamsa ; vedic astrology ; ; sjcboston ; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

 

Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

 

RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

 

Dear Narasimha, Hare Rama Krsna Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts. Best wishes Kasim

 

 

 

vedic astrology ; ; sohamsa ; sjcBoston From: pvr (AT) charter (DOT) netDate: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500 Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

Namaste,

 

 

 

> You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

 

> specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information

 

> as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail

 

> I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology.

 

> I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

 

 

This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.

 

 

 

Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

 

 

 

I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special lagna research" feature can be used to show it in charts.

 

 

 

If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.

 

 

 

Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married.

 

 

 

Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

 

 

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

 

 

 

Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

 

Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.

 

 

 

Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

 

Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.

 

 

 

Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

 

 

 

Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.

 

 

 

Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

 

 

Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

 

 

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

 

 

 

Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

 

 

 

In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area for research.

 

 

 

For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence.

 

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political power based on my research.

 

 

 

Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

 

 

 

Let us see one more example.

 

 

 

Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again.

 

 

 

In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.

 

 

 

Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18", 42n19'54"). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

 

 

 

In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections.

 

 

 

* * *

 

 

 

Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

 

 

 

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jhora

 

Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

 

jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru

 

 

 

 

Sri Narasimharao garu,

 

 

 

Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

 

 

with regards,

 

S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

 

 

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Namaste,

 

In the lottery example, birthdate is not February 12. I made a typo. It is

February 2.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

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Kasim Khan ; sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

; sjcboston

Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:57 PM

Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research (HL and Ju2)

 

 

Dear Kasim,

 

> I find it wonderful how you remain calm

> despite apparently negative comments

 

I no longer take these things personally, even when comments appear to be

personal. What others say, do and think of me matters very little to me, as long

as it is not interfering with or blocking my dharma. If I take on someone, it

is, in my mind, to the extent needed in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage

in actions that fulfil what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid

distractions to the best of my ability.

 

When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things to one. But

it is just a drama and there is no need to take it personally. Just play *your*

role and be done with the drama. The same actor may have said good things about

you in a previous scene or in a previous drama or may say good things a few

scenes later or in a future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and

people we interact with are characters in the drama.

 

* * *

 

> I wonder if you can give an example how

> you use HL in the approach below.

 

HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver of life and

vitality in general, but not specifically for money. Thus, I do not consider HL

to be so important for money. In fact, classics specifically mention HL in the

context of longevity and death, but not really money.

 

I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise and a factor

of 2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

 

* * *

 

In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and 11th lord

Saturn are strong and together in the 7th house of business. Venus has half

aspect on lagna within a degree and he connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2

with lagna. His dasa ran from 1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial

success.

 

Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and 9th lords from

Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th from Me10. Venus has half

aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa made him well-known for his work

too.

 

* * *

 

I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at 7:54:30 pm (IST)

at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn antardasa

brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn. From Ju2, Saturn is the

8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th

aspect and also has 3/4th aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he

brings poorva punya and windfall to the person.

 

In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the 2nd and 5th

lord in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved again. He is with

lagna lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect. Jupiter's annual TA dasa was

running at the time of lottery win.

 

In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is 2nd and 5th

lord in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual Patyayini dasa was

running.

 

* * *

 

I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is just

research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

; sjcboston ; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I

find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from

your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

 

I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below.

You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts.

 

Best wishes

 

Kasim

 

 

----------

 

vedic astrology ; ;

sohamsa ; sjcBoston

pvr

Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

Planetary Special Lagna Research

 



 

Namaste,

 

> You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

> specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information

> as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail

> I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology.

> I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not

covered by any classic or modern book.

 

Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it

and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my

limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

 

I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please

ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the

knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.

 

* * *

 

Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc.

We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna

and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete

7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of

next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research "

feature can be used to show it in charts.

 

If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you

get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has

to do with marriage.

 

Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and

houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that

Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage

(based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with

lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

 

* * *

 

Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the

natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna

lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and

7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of

dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married.

 

Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is

in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter.

Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and

hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in

Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

 

Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is

in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord

Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he

aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His

annual TA dasa gave marriage.

 

Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7

is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is

with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa

started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.

 

Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is

aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as

per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in

Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in

Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

 

Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST),

72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting

lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on

lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa

brought marriage.

 

Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in

Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th

lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun

also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

 

Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects

lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of

GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7

has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn

is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

 

In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is

aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu

antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

 

* * *

 

Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on

other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an

area for research.

 

For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises,

progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in

reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes

sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas

activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual

detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th

house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting

coincidence.

 

* * *

 

GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna

notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political

power based on my research.

 

Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna

lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April

2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power).

Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second

term ended.

 

Let us see one more example.

 

Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am

(IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects

lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central

minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna

(he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in

2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can

give political power again.

 

In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is

Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's

annual TA dasa.

 

Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT),

Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika

dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter

antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from

GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna

lord.

 

In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn.

He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual

TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections.

 

* * *

 

Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be

important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate

nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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jhora

Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri

Narasimharaogaru

 

Sri Narasimharao garu,

 

Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of

special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I

am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be

grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

with regards,

S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

 

 

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Namaste,

Well said.

 

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani

[vedic astrology] Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research (HL and Ju2)

vedic astrology

Monday, February 16, 2009, 12:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Way back in my early schooling I heard this and was impressed by the

 

sounds of it:

 

 

 

Guru Gud Chela Cheenie

 

 

 

Evolution has got to be about refinement and that can only involve

 

shedding what is not essential.

 

 

 

Only a GURU can make that happen. You are blessed that way!

 

 

 

vedic astrology, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

 

<pvr wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Kasim,

 

>

 

> > I find it wonderful how you remain calm

 

> > despite apparently negative comments

 

>

 

> I no longer take these things personally, even when comments appear

 

to be personal. What others say, do and think of me matters very

 

little to me, as long as it is not interfering with or blocking my

 

dharma. If I take on someone, it is, in my mind, to the extent needed

 

in order to fulfil my own dharma. I engage in actions that fulfil

 

what I see as my dharma in this world and try to avoid distractions

 

to the best of my ability.

 

>

 

> When one acts in a stage drama, another actor may say bad things to

 

one. But it is just a drama and there is no need to take it

 

personally. Just play *your* role and be done with the drama. The

 

same actor may have said good things about you in a previous scene or

 

in a previous drama or may say good things a few scenes later or in a

 

future drama. This life is just a big stage drama and people we

 

interact with are characters in the drama.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> > I wonder if you can give an example how

 

> > you use HL in the approach below.

 

>

 

> HL is based on Sun and a factor of 2 (2nd house). Sun is the giver

 

of life and vitality in general, but not specifically for money.

 

Thus, I do not consider HL to be so important for money. In fact,

 

classics specifically mention HL in the context of longevity and

 

death, but not really money.

 

>

 

> I consider planetary special lagna Ju2 (based on Jupiter's rise and

 

a factor of 2) to be more relevant to finances than HL.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> In Bill Gates' rasi chart, Ju2 is in Ar. The 2nd lord Venus and

 

11th lord Saturn are strong and together in the 7th house of

 

business. Venus has half aspect on lagna within a degree and he

 

connects the 2nd, 7th and 11th from Ju2 with lagna. His dasa ran from

 

1982 to 2002. This dasa brought him financial success.

 

>

 

> Of course, I mentioned Me10 earlier. Me10 is in Ge. The 5th and 9th

 

lords from Me10 are Venus and Saturn and they are together in 5th

 

from Me10. Venus has half aspect on lagna as mentioned. So Venus dasa

 

made him well-known for his work too.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> I will give one more example. A person born on 1957 Feb 12 at

 

7:54:30 pm (IST) at Thiruchirapalli, India (78e41, 10n49) won a

 

lottery on 2002 June 20.

 

>

 

> Lagna is in vargottama. So Sataabdika dasa applies. Saturn-Saturn

 

antardasa brought the financial windfall in lottery. Ju2 is in Cn.

 

From Ju2, Saturn is the 8th lord of windfall in the 5th house of

 

poorva punya. He aspects lagna by 10th aspect and also has 3/4th

 

aspect on lagna lord Moon within half a degree. So he brings poorva

 

punya and windfall to the person.

 

>

 

> In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is the 2nd

 

and 5th lord in 8th. Note that the 5th and 8th houses are involved

 

again. He is with lagna lord Rahu and aspects lagna with 9th aspect.

 

Jupiter's annual TA dasa was running at the time of lottery win.

 

>

 

> In the Tajaka solar return chart also, Ju2 is in Sc. Jupiter is 2nd

 

and 5th lord in 8th again. He owns lagna too. Jupiter's annual

 

Patyayini dasa was running.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> I need to re-emphasize this. This planetary special lagna thing is

 

just research. Do not jump to any conclusions hastily.

 

>

 

> Best regards,

 

> Narasimha

 

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

 

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

 

> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

 

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

 

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

 

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> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

>

 

> -

 

> Kasim Khan

 

> sohamsa@ .com ; vedic astrology ;

 

; sjcboston@grou ps.com ; Narasimha

 

P.V.R. Rao

 

> Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:32 PM

 

> RE: Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Narasimha,

 

>

 

> Hare Rama Krsna

 

>

 

> Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly

 

written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently

 

negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.

 

>

 

> I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the

 

approach below. You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or

 

Richard Branson's charts.

 

>

 

> Best wishes

 

>

 

> Kasim

 

>

 

>

 

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

----------

 

>

 

> vedic astrology;

 

; sohamsa@ .com;

 

sjcBoston@grou ps.com

 

> pvr

 

> Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500

 

> Planetary Special Lagna Research

 

>

 

> 

 

>

 

> Namaste,

 

>

 

> > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and

 

> > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

 

information

 

> > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in

 

detail

 

> > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology.

 

> > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

 

>

 

> This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara.

 

So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.

 

>

 

> Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just

 

generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with

 

some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special

 

planetary lagnas to be interesting.

 

>

 

> I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to

 

you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please

 

feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it

 

freely.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati

 

lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time

 

Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same

 

longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac

 

and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of

 

Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about

 

24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research "

 

feature can be used to show it in charts.

 

>

 

> If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed

 

factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and

 

authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.

 

>

 

> Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as

 

references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my

 

experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for

 

marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is

 

related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some

 

manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

 

also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,

 

16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7

 

is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-

 

Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

 

>

 

> Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is

 

Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in

 

the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the

 

native got married.

 

>

 

> Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,

 

15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins

 

lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama

 

dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

 

>

 

> Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from

 

Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage

 

happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

 

>

 

> Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,

 

16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th

 

aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-

 

Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

 

>

 

> Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from

 

Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in

 

lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th

 

from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

 

>

 

> Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23,

 

16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its

 

lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th

 

aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars

 

antardasa gave marriage.

 

>

 

> Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from

 

Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-

 

Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.

 

>

 

> Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,

 

16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects

 

it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.

 

>

 

> Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord

 

from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage

 

happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

 

>

 

> Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am

 

(IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and

 

he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th

 

from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu

 

antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.

 

>

 

> Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from

 

Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought

 

marriage.

 

>

 

> Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15.

 

Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by

 

8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor

 

of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in

 

Mars-Sun antardasa.

 

>

 

> Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from

 

Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus

 

and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa

 

brought marriage.

 

>

 

> Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs

 

west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in

 

Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama

 

dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got

 

married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

 

>

 

> In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7

 

is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in

 

Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas

 

based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also

 

be used. This is an area for research.

 

>

 

> For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu

 

rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the

 

zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12

 

is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-

 

zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and

 

lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen.

 

Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo

 

Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th

 

house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very

 

interesting coincidence.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special

 

planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to

 

lagna can bring political power based on my research.

 

>

 

> Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He

 

joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter

 

dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his

 

presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he

 

is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

 

>

 

> Let us see one more example.

 

>

 

> Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5,

 

10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is

 

Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in

 

1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in

 

12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti

 

and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005

 

brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

 

running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects

 

lagna. He can give political power again.

 

>

 

> In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL

 

is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister

 

in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.

 

>

 

> Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of

 

GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in

 

vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became

 

a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-

 

Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.

 

Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

 

>

 

> In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL

 

is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in

 

Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential

 

elections.

 

>

 

> * * *

 

>

 

> Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem

 

to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the

 

most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts

 

(using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

 

>

 

> Best regards,

 

> Narasimha

 

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> Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

 

> jhora

 

> Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

 

> jhora re: special lagna clarification given by

 

Sri Narasimharaogaru

 

>

 

> Sri Narasimharao garu,

 

>

 

> Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting

 

aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may

 

kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know

 

these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

 

contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly

 

enlighten me on this.

 

>

 

> with regards,

 

> S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

 

>

 

>

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