Planetary Special Lagna Research/Me10 [2]

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Om Datta Guru

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

a) Noted

b) I am using the exact co-0rdinates lat long and time of birth and its

showing Me10 in Cancer Rasi only.

Its strange

 

Thanks for the reply

 

warm regards

Sunil

 

 

 

 

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> Quick replies:

>

> (a) Main ascendant (or its lord).

> (b) I get Me10 in Ge irrespective of ayanamsa. Check the birthtime and

birthplace you are using. Birthplace is Sambalpur, India (83e58, 21n27).

Birthtime is about 9:15 pm. If birthtime is between 9:06 and 9:17 pm,

then Me10 is in Ge. Please note that Me10 changes sign in rasi chart

once in every 12 min on average. You are probably taking a wrong

birthplace.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

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> > Om Datta Guru

> >

> > Dear PVR,

> > Good work indeed.

> >

> > 2 queries as maybe not been able to follow this properly

> >

> > a) Should the 1,5th or 9th have aspect/association on Me10 lagna or

Main

> > Asc of a chart

> > b) In Sanjays case, the Me10 comes to Cancer whereas your mail

indicated

> > Ge, unless i am doing something wrong with the software

> > c) am noticing that even lordship or planets placed in the 1,5,9 of

Me10

> > in their antardasas or dasas something significant in the life of

> > natives is happening (based on just 3-4 charts)

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai

> >

> > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear JK,

> > >

> > > > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used?

> > >

> > > I have not spent much time on this to iron out everything.

> > >

> > > I looked at many examples with some specific planetary special

lagnas

> > and drew some confident conclusions. That's all. The rest needs more

> > work. I may or may not have more time to spend on this and refine

this.

> > So I shared the gist of what I found.

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Let me consider another special lagna that I studied earlier. You

can

> > use Me10 for one's work. I saw that the 1st, 5th and 9th houses and

> > their links to lagna matter for seeing good phases of fame and luck

in

> > one's work. For example, Tom Hanks has Me10 in Cp. The 5th lord from

it

> > is Venus and he has 3/4th aspect on lagna within a degree. His dasa

> > during 1980-2000 made him famous in his work. Amitabh Bachchan has

Me10

> > in Ge. Saturn is the 9th lord and he owns and aspects lagna. Saturn

dasa

> > brought luck in work. Aishwarya Rai has Me10 in Ar and Mars is in

it. He

> > is the dispositor of lagna lord and aspects lagna lord by 8th

aspect. He

> > links Me10 to lagna. His dasa established her as a star. Pt Sanjay

Rath

> > has Me10 in Ge. Venus is the 5th lord and has half aspect on lagna

and

> > lagna lord. Lagna Vimsottari dasa of Venus made him well-known in

his

> > work. Dr BV Raman had Me10 in Le. The 5th lord from Me10, Jupiter,

has

> > 3/4th aspect on lagna. Jupiter dasa during 1937-1953 made him

well-known

> > in his work. Swami Vivekananda had Me10 in Le. The 5th house has

lagna!

> > Jupiter owns it and Sun occupis it. In Jupiter's Shashtihayani dasa

and

> > Sun's Lagna-Shashtihayani dasa, he became well-known for his work.

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > Please keep in mind that we astrologers tend to see shapes in

clouds

> > and draw conclusions prematurely. When doing research, one has to be

> > disciplined and strict. Just because Ve7 and Su5 seem to work well

with

> > several examples in a particular way, don't assume that everything

else

> > will work similarly. There may be perculiarities with each special

lagna

> > that need to be understood with specific examples of that special

lagna!

> > >

> > > Never jump to conclusions based on one or two charts. Try tens of

> > example and find simple patterns that consistently repeat in all of

> > them, before you satisfy yourself. Also a principle that needs to be

> > 'special cased' for every other example is useless. If you have a

> > well-defined simple principle working consistently in many charts,

then

> > only there is something worthwhile.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " jk.dasgupta@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Utpal,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used?

> > > >

> > > > 7th from Ve7- marriage

> > > > 12th from Ke12- spiritual matters

> > > > 5th from Su5(GL)- power

> > > >

> > > > What about other planets? Just my thought,

> > > >

> > > > 4th from Mo4- happyness, vehicle

> > > > 5th from Ju5- children

> > > > 6th from Ma6- enemity

> > > > 6th from Sa6 - sickness, service

> > > > 8th from Ma8- accident

> > > > 9th from Ju9- fortune, dharma

> > > > 7th from Me10- business ???

> > > > 10th from Me10- proffession?

> > > >

> > > > Wealth, money, lottery etc. from where to see?

> > > > And how to use Rahu?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Jk

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa

[sohamsa ]On

> > Behalf Of

> > > > utpal pathak

> > > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:30 PM

> > > > sohamsa

> > > > Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research

> > > >

> > > > correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear JKDa,

> > > > >

> > > > > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th

> > House.

> > > > >

> > > > > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50

> > > > >

> > > > > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my

> > > > > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009

> > > > >

> > > > > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi

as

> > > > well

> > > > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars

again

> > in

> > > > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per

> > Mixed

> > > > > settings.

> > > > >

> > > > > Take TP of 2008/9.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is

Budha

> > > > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which

also

> > > > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.

> > > > >

> > > > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > seems Intresting !

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Utpal

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear PVR,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna

lord

> > > > in

> > > > > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup

> > dasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you

have

> > > > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL)

for

> > > > > power etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jk

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

> > > > On

> > > > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > > > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM

> > > > > > vedic astrology ;

> > > > > ; sohamsa ;

> > > > > sjcBoston

> > > > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special

lagna

> > and

> > > > > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

> > > > > information

> > > > > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts

in

> > > > > detail

> > > > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on

> > > > > Astrology.

> > > > > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on

this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a

> > > > parampara.

> > > > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just

> > > > > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition

> > with

> > > > > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found

these

> > > > > special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense

to

> > > > > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you,

> > please

> > > > > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also

> > spread

> > > > > it freely.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * * *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna,

> > > > ghati

> > > > > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the

> > time

> > > > > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at

the

> > > > same

> > > > > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around

the

> > > > zodiac

> > > > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's

rise

> > of

> > > > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in

> > > > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special

lagna

> > > > > research " feature can be used to show it in charts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the

> > > > speed

> > > > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with

power

> > and

> > > > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used

as

> > > > > references and houses can be found from them just like

lagna. In

> > > > my

> > > > > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important

for

> > > > > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra

> > dasa)

> > > > > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna

in

> > some

> > > > > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of

> > marriage

> > > > > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7

and

> > > > lagna.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * * *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST),

81e12,

> > > > > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord

from

> > > > Ve7

> > > > > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other.

Saturn-

> > > > > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of

Ve7

> > > > > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna

lord

> > > > > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's

annual

> > TA

> > > > > dasa, the native got married.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST),

80e21,

> > > > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he

joins

> > > > > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per

Chaturaseeti

> > sama

> > > > > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave

> > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th

lord

> > > > from

> > > > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus.

> > > > Marriage

> > > > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST),

80e28,

> > > > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has

> > 10th

> > > > > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7.

> > Jupiter-

> > > > > Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th

lord

> > > > from

> > > > > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord

Rahu is

> > > > in

> > > > > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects

the

> > 7th

> > > > > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST),

> > > > 80e23,

> > > > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in

Li.

> > > > Its

> > > > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects

him

> > by

> > > > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna,

> > Mercury-Mars

> > > > > antardasa gave marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th

house

> > > > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord

Venus.

> > > > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought

> > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST),

81e06,

> > > > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna

> > aspects

> > > > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th

> > > > lord

> > > > > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury.

> > > > Marriage

> > > > > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20,

7:12:45

> > > > > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it

is

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect

on

> > > > the

> > > > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them.

> > Saturn-

> > > > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th

lord

> > > > from

> > > > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa

> > brought

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12,

> > > > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars

> > > > aspects

> > > > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins

the

> > > > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them.

She

> > > > got

> > > > > married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th

lord

> > > > from

> > > > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has

exalted

> > > > > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per

> > annual

> > > > TA

> > > > > dasa brought marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am

(4

> > > > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ).

Ve7

> > > > is

> > > > > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon.

> > > > Dwisaptati

> > > > > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per

that

> > > > dasa,

> > > > > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th

from

> > > > > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got

> > married

> > > > > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * * *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special

> > > > lagnas

> > > > > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They

can

> > > > > also be used. This is an area for research.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude

when

> > > > Ketu

> > > > > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go

> > around

> > > > > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That

is

> > how

> > > > > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the

12th

> > > > house

> > > > > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between

> > that

> > > > > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment

> > > > happen.

> > > > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

> > Aurobindo

> > > > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in

the

> > > > 12th

> > > > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very

> > > > > interesting coincidence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * * *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special

> > > > > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th

from

> > GL

> > > > > to lagna can bring political power based on my research.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter.

He

> > > > > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa,

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with

his

> > > > > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from

GL

> > and

> > > > he

> > > > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us see one more example.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934

January

> > > > 5,

> > > > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from

GL

> > is

> > > > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa

> > started

> > > > in

> > > > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu

is

> > in

> > > > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha

> > > > drishti

> > > > > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in

2004-2005

> > > > > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter

dasa

> > is

> > > > > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and

aspects

> > > > > lagna. He can give political power again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord

from

> > > > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a

central

> > > > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours

west

> > > > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is

in

> > > > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies.

He

> > > > became

> > > > > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in

> > > > Jupiter-

> > > > > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects

> > lagna.

> > > > > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna

lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord

from

> > > > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna

lord

> > > > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in

> > > > > presidential elections.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * * *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special

lagnas

> > > > > seem to be important for important events in both natal

charts

> > > > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi

> > > > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > > -------------------------

> > > > --

> > > > > -

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> > > > --

> > > > > -

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

> > > > > > jhora

> > > > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

> > > > > > jhora re: special lagna clarification

given

> > > > > by Sri Narasimharaogaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some

> > > > exciting

> > > > > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7.

You

> > > > may

> > > > > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer

to

> > > > know

> > > > > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys

your

> > > > > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would

> > kindly

> > > > > enlighten me on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with regards,

> > > > > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

>

>

>