Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Namaste, > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting. I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. * * * Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. * * * Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. * * * Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area for research. For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence. * * * GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political power based on my research. Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. Let us see one more example. Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again. In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections. * * * Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - Balasubramaniam Ramachandran jhora Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru Sri Narasimharao garu, Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. with regards, S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009  Dear PVR, Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord in 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa. What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for power etc. Regards Jk sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. RaoSaturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AMvedic astrology ; ; sohamsa ; sjcBoston Subject: Planetary Special Lagna Research  Namaste, > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting. I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. * * * Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special lagna research" feature can be used to show it in charts. If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. * * * Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. * * * Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area for research. For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence. * * * GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political power based on my research. Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. Let us see one more example. Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again. In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18", 42n19'54"). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections. * * * Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - Balasubramaniam Ramachandran jhora Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru Sri Narasimharao garu, Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. with regards, S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dear JKDa, Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House. My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50 I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as well as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed settings. Take TP of 2008/9. Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too. on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha. seems Intresting ! Best Regards, Utpal sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear PVR, > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord in 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa. > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for power etc. > > Regards > > Jk > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM > vedic astrology ; ; sohamsa ; sjcBoston > Planetary Special Lagna Research > > >  > Namaste, > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. > > * * * > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. > > * * * > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn- Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > * * * > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area for research. > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence. > > * * * > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political power based on my research. > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > Let us see one more example. > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again. > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter- Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections. > > * * * > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > Best regards, > Narasimha > -------------------------------- - > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > -------------------------------- - > - > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > jhora > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > with regards, > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008 sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > Dear JKDa, > > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House. > > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50 > > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009 > > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as well > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed > settings. > > > Take TP of 2008/9. > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too. > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha. > > seems Intresting ! > > Best Regards, > > Utpal > > sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@> > wrote: > > > > Dear PVR, > > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord in > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa. > > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for > power etc. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM > > vedic astrology ; > ; sohamsa ; > sjcBoston > > Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > > > >  > > Namaste, > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > information > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in > detail > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on > Astrology. > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these > special planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread > it freely. > > > > * * * > > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna > research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. > > > > * * * > > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA > dasa, the native got married. > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- > Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars > antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn- > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought > marriage. > > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got > married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA > dasa brought marriage. > > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > > > * * * > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can > also be used. This is an area for research. > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very > interesting coincidence. > > > > * * * > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL > to lagna can bring political power based on my research. > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > > > Let us see one more example. > > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects > lagna. He can give political power again. > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter- > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in > presidential elections. > > > > * * * > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------------ -- > - > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------------ -- > - > > - > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > > jhora > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given > by Sri Narasimharaogaru > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly > enlighten me on this. > > > > with regards, > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dear Utpal, Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used? 7th from Ve7- marriage 12th from Ke12- spiritual matters 5th from Su5(GL)- power What about other planets? Just my thought, 4th from Mo4- happyness, vehicle 5th from Ju5- children 6th from Ma6- enemity 6th from Sa6 - sickness, service 8th from Ma8- accident 9th from Ju9- fortune, dharma 7th from Me10- business ??? 10th from Me10- proffession? Wealth, money, lottery etc. from where to see? And how to use Rahu? Regards Jk sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of utpal pathakSaturday, February 14, 2009 3:30 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008sohamsa , "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak wrote:>> Dear JKDa,> > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House.> > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50> > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009> > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as well > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed > settings.> > > Take TP of 2008/9.> > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.> > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha.> > seems Intresting !> > Best Regards,> > Utpal > > sohamsa , "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta@> > wrote:> >> > Dear PVR,> > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord in > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa.> > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for > power etc.> > > > Regards> > > > Jk> > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao> > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM> > vedic astrology ; > ; sohamsa ; > sjcBoston > > Planetary Special Lagna Research> > > > > >  > > Namaste,> > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and> > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > information> > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in > detail> > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on > Astrology. > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.> > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.> > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these > special planetary lagnas to be interesting.> > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread > it freely.> > > > * * *> > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special lagna > research" feature can be used to show it in charts.> > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.> > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.> > > > * * *> > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-> Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA > dasa, the native got married.> > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.> > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-> Saturn antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.> > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars > antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.> > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.> > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-> Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.> > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought > marriage.> > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got > married in Mars-Sun antardasa.> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA > dasa brought marriage.> > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7 is > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.> > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.> > > > * * *> > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can > also be used. This is an area for research.> > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very > interesting coincidence.> > > > * * *> > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL > to lagna can bring political power based on my research.> > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.> > > > Let us see one more example.> > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects > lagna. He can give political power again.> > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.> > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18", 42n19'54"). Lagna is in > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-> Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.> > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in > presidential elections.> > > > * * *> > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).> > > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ---------------------------> -> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana> > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > ---------------------------> - > > - > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > > jhora > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM> > jhora re: special lagna clarification given > by Sri Narasimharaogaru> > > > Sri Narasimharao garu,> > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly > enlighten me on this.> > > > with regards,> > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dear JKda, You gave logical approach for all the planets as well as houses related to specific area. If 12th from Ke12 can lead you towards Spiritual growth, 12th from Ra12 can lead to some event such as Shock due to backstabbing, loss, New Bondages etc..? can 5th from Ra5 organise events which leads to troubles for Children, loss of position ? can 9th from Ra9 indicate troubles to father, deviation from path of Dharma? as they say Thinking a loud. Warm Regards, Utpal sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear Utpal, > > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used? > > 7th from Ve7- marriage > 12th from Ke12- spiritual matters > 5th from Su5(GL)- power > What about other planets? Just my thought, > > 4th from Mo4- happyness, vehicle > 5th from Ju5- children > 6th from Ma6- enemity > 6th from Sa6 - sickness, service > 8th from Ma8- accident > 9th from Ju9- fortune, dharma > 7th from Me10- business ??? > 10th from Me10- proffession? > > Wealth, money, lottery etc. from where to see? > And how to use Rahu? > > Regards > > Jk > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of > utpal pathak > Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:30 PM > sohamsa > Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008 > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@> > wrote: > > > > Dear JKDa, > > > > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House. > > > > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50 > > > > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my > > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009 > > > > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as > well > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed > > settings. > > > > > > Take TP of 2008/9. > > > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too. > > > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha. > > > > seems Intresting ! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Utpal > > > > sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear PVR, > > > > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord > in > > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa. > > > > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for > > power etc. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM > > > vedic astrology ; > > ; sohamsa ; > > sjcBoston > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > > > > > > >  > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > > information > > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in > > detail > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on > > Astrology. > > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a > parampara. > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just > > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with > > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these > > special planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to > > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please > > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread > > it freely. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, > ghati > > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time > > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the > same > > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the > zodiac > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna > > research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the > speed > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > > > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as > > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In > my > > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for > > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) > > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some > > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage > > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and > lagna. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, > > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from > Ve7 > > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- > > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 > > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord > > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA > > dasa, the native got married. > > > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins > > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama > > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. > Marriage > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > > > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th > > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- > > Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is > in > > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th > > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), > 80e23, > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. > Its > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury- Mars > > antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th > lord > > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. > Marriage > > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > > > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 > > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is > Saturn > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on > the > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn- > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought > > marriage. > > > > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars > aspects > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She > got > > married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted > > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual > TA > > dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 > is > > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. > Dwisaptati > > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that > dasa, > > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from > > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married > > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special > lagnas > > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can > > also be used. This is an area for research. > > > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when > Ketu > > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around > > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how > > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th > house > > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that > > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment > happen. > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the > 12th > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very > > interesting coincidence. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special > > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL > > to lagna can bring political power based on my research. > > > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He > > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, > Jupiter > > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his > > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and > he > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > > > > > Let us see one more example. > > > > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January > 5, > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started > in > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha > drishti > > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 > > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is > > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects > > lagna. He can give political power again. > > > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > > > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He > became > > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in > Jupiter- > > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. > > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in > > presidential elections. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas > > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > - > > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > > > jhora > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given > > by Sri Narasimharaogaru > > > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some > exciting > > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You > may > > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to > know > > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your > > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly > > enlighten me on this. > > > > > > with regards, > > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Waiting for input from others Jk sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of utpal pathakSaturday, February 14, 2009 6:42 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research Dear JKda,You gave logical approach for all the planets as well as houses related to specific area.If 12th from Ke12 can lead you towards Spiritual growth, 12th from Ra12 can lead to some event such as Shock due to backstabbing, loss, New Bondages etc..?can 5th from Ra5 organise events which leads to troubles for Children, loss of position ?can 9th from Ra9 indicate troubles to father, deviation from path of Dharma?as they say Thinking a loud.Warm Regards,Utpalsohamsa , "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta wrote:>> Dear Utpal,> > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used?> > 7th from Ve7- marriage> 12th from Ke12- spiritual matters> 5th from Su5(GL)- power> What about other planets? Just my thought,> > 4th from Mo4- happyness, vehicle> 5th from Ju5- children> 6th from Ma6- enemity> 6th from Sa6 - sickness, service> 8th from Ma8- accident> 9th from Ju9- fortune, dharma> 7th from Me10- business ???> 10th from Me10- proffession?> > Wealth, money, lottery etc. from where to see?> And how to use Rahu?> > Regards> > Jk> > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of> utpal pathak> Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:30 PM> sohamsa > Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research> > > correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008> > sohamsa , "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak@>> wrote:> >> > Dear JKDa,> >> > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House.> >> > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50> >> > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my> > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009> >> > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as> well> > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in> > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed> > settings.> >> >> > Take TP of 2008/9.> >> > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha> > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also> > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.> >> > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha.> >> > seems Intresting !> >> > Best Regards,> >> > Utpal> >> > sohamsa , "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear PVR,> > >> > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord> in> > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa.> > >> > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have> > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for> > power etc.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Jk> > >> > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]> On> > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao> > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM> > > vedic astrology ;> > ; sohamsa ;> > sjcBoston > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research> > >> > >> > > > > > Namaste,> > >> > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and> > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the> > information> > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in> > detail> > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on> > Astrology.> > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.> > >> > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a> parampara.> > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.> > >> > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just> > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with> > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these> > special planetary lagnas to be interesting.> > >> > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to> > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please> > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread> > it freely.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna,> ghati> > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time> > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the> same> > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the> zodiac> > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of> > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in> > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special lagna> > research" feature can be used to show it in charts.> > >> > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the> speed> > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and> > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.> > >> > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as> > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In> my> > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for> > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa)> > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some> > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage> > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and> lagna.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,> > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from> Ve7> > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-> > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7> > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord> > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA> > dasa, the native got married.> > >> > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,> > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins> > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama> > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus.> Marriage> > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.> > >> > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,> > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th> > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-> > Saturn antardasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is> in> > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th> > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST),> 80e23,> > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li.> Its> > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by> > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars> > antardasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house> > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus.> > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,> > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects> > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th> lord> > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury.> Marriage> > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.> > >> > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45> > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is> Saturn> > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on> the> > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-> > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought> > marriage.> > >> > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12,> > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars> aspects> > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the> > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She> got> > married in Mars-Sun antardasa.> > >> > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted> > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual> TA> > dasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4> > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7> is> > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon.> Dwisaptati> > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that> dasa,> > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.> > >> > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from> > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married> > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special> lagnas> > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can> > also be used. This is an area for research.> > >> > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when> Ketu> > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around> > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how> > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th> house> > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that> > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment> happen.> > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo> > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the> 12th> > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very> > interesting coincidence.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special> > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL> > to lagna can bring political power based on my research.> > >> > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He> > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa,> Jupiter> > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his> > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and> he> > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.> > >> > > Let us see one more example.> > >> > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January> 5,> > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is> > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started> in> > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in> > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha> drishti> > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005> > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is> > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects> > lagna. He can give political power again.> > >> > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from> > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central> > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.> > >> > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west> > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18", 42n19'54"). Lagna is in> > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He> became> > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in> Jupiter-> > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.> > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.> > >> > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from> > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord> > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in> > presidential elections.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas> > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts> > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi> > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).> > >> > > Best regards,> > > Narasimha> > > -------------------------> --> > -> > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself:> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana> > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > -------------------------> --> > -> > > -> > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran> > > jhora > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM> > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given> > by Sri Narasimharaogaru> > >> > > Sri Narasimharao garu,> > >> > > Namaste. You have mentioned some> exciting> > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You> may> > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to> know> > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your> > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly> > enlighten me on this.> > >> > > with regards,> > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 om paramesthi gurave namah Dear Utpal That is correct. In fact the third from Rahu can indicate those who are of very loose character but we need to be careful in this as the touch of Mars is required. For example, if the lagna is Capricorn and Rahu is in the 9th house in MKS, then the third from Rahu is Scorpio which is the 11th house indicating elder sister. Then unless this house has the subhadrishti of Guru, the eleder sister/brother can very characterless. In all these karaka- bhava yoga, there is the condition of looking at another planet as well that will bring about the downslide or upward blessing. With Warm Regards Sanjay Rath http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of utpal pathak 14 February 2009 18:42 sohamsa Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research Dear JKda, You gave logical approach for all the planets as well as houses related to specific area. If 12th from Ke12 can lead you towards Spiritual growth, 12th from Ra12 can lead to some event such as Shock due to backstabbing, loss, New Bondages etc..? can 5th from Ra5 organise events which leads to troubles for Children, loss of position ? can 9th from Ra9 indicate troubles to father, deviation from path of Dharma? as they say Thinking a loud. Warm Regards, Utpal sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear Utpal, > > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used? > > 7th from Ve7- marriage > 12th from Ke12- spiritual matters > 5th from Su5(GL)- power > What about other planets? Just my thought, > > 4th from Mo4- happyness, vehicle > 5th from Ju5- children > 6th from Ma6- enemity > 6th from Sa6 - sickness, service > 8th from Ma8- accident > 9th from Ju9- fortune, dharma > 7th from Me10- business ??? > 10th from Me10- proffession? > > Wealth, money, lottery etc. from where to see? > And how to use Rahu? > > Regards > > Jk > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of > utpal pathak > Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:30 PM > sohamsa > Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008 > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@> > wrote: > > > > Dear JKDa, > > > > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House. > > > > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50 > > > > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my > > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009 > > > > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as > well > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed > > settings. > > > > > > Take TP of 2008/9. > > > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too. > > > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha. > > > > seems Intresting ! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Utpal > > > > sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear PVR, > > > > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord > in > > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa. > > > > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for > > power etc. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM > > > vedic astrology ; > > ; sohamsa ; > > sjcBoston > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > > > > > > >  > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > > information > > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in > > detail > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on > > Astrology. > > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a > parampara. > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just > > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with > > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these > > special planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to > > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please > > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread > > it freely. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, > ghati > > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time > > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the > same > > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the > zodiac > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna > > research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the > speed > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > > > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as > > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In > my > > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for > > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) > > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some > > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage > > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and > lagna. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, > > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from > Ve7 > > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- > > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 > > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord > > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA > > dasa, the native got married. > > > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins > > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama > > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. > Marriage > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > > > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th > > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- > > Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is > in > > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th > > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), > 80e23, > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. > Its > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury- Mars > > antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th > lord > > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. > Marriage > > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > > > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 > > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is > Saturn > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on > the > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn- > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought > > marriage. > > > > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars > aspects > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She > got > > married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted > > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual > TA > > dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 > is > > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. > Dwisaptati > > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that > dasa, > > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from > > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married > > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special > lagnas > > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can > > also be used. This is an area for research. > > > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when > Ketu > > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around > > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how > > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th > house > > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that > > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment > happen. > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the > 12th > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very > > interesting coincidence. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special > > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL > > to lagna can bring political power based on my research. > > > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He > > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, > Jupiter > > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his > > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and > he > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > > > > > Let us see one more example. > > > > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January > 5, > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started > in > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha > drishti > > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 > > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is > > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects > > lagna. He can give political power again. > > > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > > > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He > became > > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in > Jupiter- > > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. > > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in > > presidential elections. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas > > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > - > > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > > > jhora > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given > > by Sri Narasimharaogaru > > > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some > exciting > > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You > may > > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to > know > > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your > > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly > > enlighten me on this. > > > > > > with regards, > > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 om paramesthi gurave namah Dear Utpal I wonder as to the placement of Venus and Mars in the 2nd house from your navamsa lagna. Please correct the birth time to tula navamsa instead or Dhanus navamsha lagna based on life events. In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter dasha Sun antardasa to know something more about your spiritual path. With Warm Regards Sanjay Rath http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of utpal pathak 14 February 2009 15:30 sohamsa Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008 sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > Dear JKDa, > > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House. > > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50 > > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009 > > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as well > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed > settings. > > > Take TP of 2008/9. > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too. > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha. > > seems Intresting ! > > Best Regards, > > Utpal > > sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@> > wrote: > > > > Dear PVR, > > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord in > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa. > > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for > power etc. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM > > vedic astrology ; > ; sohamsa ; > sjcBoston > > Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > > > >  > > Namaste, > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > information > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in > detail > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on > Astrology. > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these > special planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread > it freely. > > > > * * * > > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna > research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. > > > > * * * > > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA > dasa, the native got married. > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- > Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars > antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn- > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought > marriage. > > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got > married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA > dasa brought marriage. > > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > > > * * * > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can > also be used. This is an area for research. > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very > interesting coincidence. > > > > * * * > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL > to lagna can bring political power based on my research. > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > > > Let us see one more example. > > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects > lagna. He can give political power again. > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter- > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in > presidential elections. > > > > * * * > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------- -- > - > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------- -- > - > > - > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > > jhora > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given > by Sri Narasimharaogaru > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly > enlighten me on this. > > > > with regards, > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dear Shri Narasimha Rao garu,  Namaste. I am delighted to see your commitment to this science and Iam really happy to go through the various examples. I have started to work out on other horoscopes to verify your observations. I feel happy and enjoy the company you and our members, May God give you long life _ ( Ayushmaan Bhava).  With regards,  S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM THANGIRALA BALASUBRAMANIA SHARMA. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 om paramesthi gurave namah Dear Narasimha Why complicate this so much. In the annual TP chart, provided dasha and other factors favour, marriage will surely occur in the year the 7th house or 4th house has some link to the Varesha of the year. Examine the Hora Lord in a similar manner to determine the bhavas under focus....standard rules In years where Varesha/Hora is related to 2nd house or 5th house, birth of children happens. Su1 to Su12 can be said to be special ascendants as the Sun is the creator of the ascendants. Your research is good. I have added a few comments to play the role of the questioning fellow, so that good research is used well ... With Warm Regards Sanjay Rath http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao 14 February 2009 10:36 vedic astrology ; ; sohamsa ; sjcBoston Planetary Special Lagna Research  Namaste, > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting. I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. * * * Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. * * * Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. [sanjay Rath:] Jupiter the lord of Hora is also 7th and 10th lord showing marriage especially since it is in 4th house. Varesha Sun conjoins Venus in 10th house Pisces and is in 7th from Jupiter. Marriage happened in the dasa of Moon placed in 12H from Varesha. Moon in 12H can surely give marriage. Since it is in 9H it also required you to travel a long distance for the same. But Ve7 also works very well. Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. [sanjay Rath:] If yu can attach jhd charts I can check these as well. Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. [sanjay Rath:] TP 1967 is on Tuesday and Mars rules 4H (event for marriage and home) and is also badhakesha indicating something related to foreign country. It is placed in own sign in 11H indicating some good event related to marriage and home. Kala Hora is Rahu in 4H...definitely foreign wife if he marries in this year. Hora lord Venus in 8H Jupiter is exalted in 7H to give marriage in its dasa Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. [sanjay Rath:] 7.30 am will give dhanus navamsha lagna with Mercury in it. This would make him a very able speaker and a superb businessman. I don’t think anyone can call him a great speaker and his track record in business is also not good.Try 7.26 am birth time with Scorpio navamsha lagna. * * * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dear JK, > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used? I have not spent much time on this to iron out everything. I looked at many examples with some specific planetary special lagnas and drew some confident conclusions. That's all. The rest needs more work. I may or may not have more time to spend on this and refine this. So I shared the gist of what I found. * * * Let me consider another special lagna that I studied earlier. You can use Me10 for one's work. I saw that the 1st, 5th and 9th houses and their links to lagna matter for seeing good phases of fame and luck in one's work. For example, Tom Hanks has Me10 in Cp. The 5th lord from it is Venus and he has 3/4th aspect on lagna within a degree. His dasa during 1980-2000 made him famous in his work. Amitabh Bachchan has Me10 in Ge. Saturn is the 9th lord and he owns and aspects lagna. Saturn dasa brought luck in work. Aishwarya Rai has Me10 in Ar and Mars is in it. He is the dispositor of lagna lord and aspects lagna lord by 8th aspect. He links Me10 to lagna. His dasa established her as a star. Pt Sanjay Rath has Me10 in Ge. Venus is the 5th lord and has half aspect on lagna and lagna lord. Lagna Vimsottari dasa of Venus made him well-known in his work. Dr BV Raman had Me10 in Le. The 5th lord from Me10, Jupiter, has 3/4th aspect on lagna. Jupiter dasa during 1937-1953 made him well-known in his work. Swami Vivekananda had Me10 in Le. The 5th house has lagna! Jupiter owns it and Sun occupis it. In Jupiter's Shashtihayani dasa and Sun's Lagna-Shashtihayani dasa, he became well-known for his work. * * * Please keep in mind that we astrologers tend to see shapes in clouds and draw conclusions prematurely. When doing research, one has to be disciplined and strict. Just because Ve7 and Su5 seem to work well with several examples in a particular way, don't assume that everything else will work similarly. There may be perculiarities with each special lagna that need to be understood with specific examples of that special lagna! Never jump to conclusions based on one or two charts. Try tens of example and find simple patterns that consistently repeat in all of them, before you satisfy yourself. Also a principle that needs to be 'special cased' for every other example is useless. If you have a well-defined simple principle working consistently in many charts, then only there is something worthwhile. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear Utpal, > > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used? > > 7th from Ve7- marriage > 12th from Ke12- spiritual matters > 5th from Su5(GL)- power > > What about other planets? Just my thought, > > 4th from Mo4- happyness, vehicle > 5th from Ju5- children > 6th from Ma6- enemity > 6th from Sa6 - sickness, service > 8th from Ma8- accident > 9th from Ju9- fortune, dharma > 7th from Me10- business ??? > 10th from Me10- proffession? > > Wealth, money, lottery etc. from where to see? > And how to use Rahu? > > Regards > > Jk > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of > utpal pathak > Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:30 PM > sohamsa > Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research > > correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008 > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@> > wrote: > > > > Dear JKDa, > > > > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House. > > > > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50 > > > > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my > > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009 > > > > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as > well > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed > > settings. > > > > Take TP of 2008/9. > > > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too. > > > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha. > > > > seems Intresting ! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Utpal > > > > sohamsa , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear PVR, > > > > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord > in > > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa. > > > > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for > > power etc. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM > > > vedic astrology ; > > ; sohamsa ; > > sjcBoston > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > > information > > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in > > detail > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on > > Astrology. > > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a > parampara. > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just > > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with > > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these > > special planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to > > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please > > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread > > it freely. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, > ghati > > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time > > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the > same > > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the > zodiac > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna > > research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the > speed > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > > > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as > > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In > my > > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for > > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) > > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some > > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage > > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and > lagna. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, > > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from > Ve7 > > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- > > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 > > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord > > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA > > dasa, the native got married. > > > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins > > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama > > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. > Marriage > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > > > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th > > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- > > Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is > in > > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th > > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), > 80e23, > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. > Its > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars > > antardasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th > lord > > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. > Marriage > > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > > > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 > > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is > Saturn > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on > the > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn- > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought > > marriage. > > > > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars > aspects > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She > got > > married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord > from > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted > > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual > TA > > dasa brought marriage. > > > > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 > is > > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. > Dwisaptati > > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that > dasa, > > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from > > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married > > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special > lagnas > > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can > > also be used. This is an area for research. > > > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when > Ketu > > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around > > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how > > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th > house > > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that > > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment > happen. > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the > 12th > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very > > interesting coincidence. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special > > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL > > to lagna can bring political power based on my research. > > > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He > > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, > Jupiter > > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his > > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and > he > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > > > > > Let us see one more example. > > > > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January > 5, > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started > in > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha > drishti > > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 > > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is > > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects > > lagna. He can give political power again. > > > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > > > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He > became > > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in > Jupiter- > > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. > > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in > > presidential elections. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas > > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > - > > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > > > jhora > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given > > by Sri Narasimharaogaru > > > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some > exciting > > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You > may > > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to > know > > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your > > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly > > enlighten me on this. > > > > > > with regards, > > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Namaste I respectfully suggest that there is none in these vaaresha and hora lord principles. Just adding my two bits into it (I may of course be completely wrong), I have seen the varesh or hora lord in my TP chart not being of any special significance in terms of events. In my 2008 TP, I had aries lagna with mars and ketu in cancer, and sun along with moon, merc, venus in 2nd house is tauras. Mars was the Varesh and sun the Hora lord. I did not have any special significant even related to home/mother (4th house mars), or in my relationship and neither any thing good or bad related to finances (2nd house sun) or 5th house (children or supporters). But I had a retrograde jupter in dhanu in 9th house and I did start off with some spiritual practises in a regularised manner. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 15/2/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: Planetary Special Lagna Researchsohamsa , vedic astrology Date: Sunday, 15 February, 2009, 3:19 AM  Dear Sanjay, > Why complicate this so much. Different minds perceive different things as simple and as complicated. > Marriage happened in the dasa of Moon placed in 12H > from Varesha. Moon in 12H can surely give marriage. In the eight examples I gave yesterday, I looked at the houses occupied by dasa lord (at the time of marriage) from varesha of annual TP chart. There were six different houses - 1st, 4th, 6th, 8th, 9th and 12th houses. Six different houses in eight examples! We hardly have a pattern. Similarly, if I look at the house occupied by vaaresha from hora lord, it has a big variance. There is no pattern. I am looking for a repeatable, well-defined and consistent formula. I respectfully suggest that there is none in these vaaresha and hora lord principles. > Kala Hora is Rahu in 4H...definitely foreign wife if he marries in this year. Rahu is neither hora lord nor mahakala hora lord. He is the kaala lord. I am assuming you meant "Kala lord is Rahu in 4th" and typed "Hora" instead of "lord". Anyway, Why should the placement of kala lord be important in deciding spouse?? Well, I will give a counter-example. The 1998-99 annual TP chart of example 2 also has kaala lord as Rahu and Rahu is in 7th house. Native was married in that year. However, he did not get a foreigner wife. He got a wife from the same caste, sect and region of India. > [sanjay Rath:] 7.30 am will give dhanus navamsha lagna with > Mercury in it. This would make him a very able speaker and > a superb businessman. I don’t think anyone can call him > a great speaker and his track record in business is also not > good.Try 7.26 am birth time with Scorpio navamsha lagna. With the data I gave (7:30 am), I do get Sc navamsa lagna. Make sure that you entered the data as I gave. Check the longitude, latitude and time zone. In any case, he does have a good track record in business. He invested $800,000 in Texas Rangers baseball franchise to become a managing partner and finally made $15 million when he sold his shares and got out. * * * There are many other techniques and some of them work nicely. However, we have hundreds of parameters and choose the ones we want to link on an example-by-example basis. That way, we will impress people with the vastness of our knowledge, but don't really help them make real predictions. Though I also presented a methodology containing hundreds of new parameters (planetary special lagnas), I have given a very specific formula involving two specific parameters (lagna and the 7th from Ve7). I tried tens of charts (natal as well as annual) and it seems to work in about 80% cases. There seems to be some worth in it. As I said yesterday, "If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.". Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- sohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath wrote:> > om paramesthi gurave namah> > Dear Narasimha> > Why complicate this so much. In the annual TP chart, provided dasha and other factors favour, marriage will surely occur in the year the 7th house or 4th house has some link to the Varesha of the year. Examine the Hora Lord in a similar manner to determine the bhavas under focus....standard rules> > In years where Varesha/Hora is related to 2nd house or 5th house, birth of children happens.> > Su1 to Su12 can be said to be special ascendants as the Sun is the creator of the ascendants. > > Your research is good. I have added a few comments to play the role of the questioning fellow, so that good research is used well ...> > With Warm Regards> > Sanjay Rath> > http://srath. com http://sohamsa. com http:// .org> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India> > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao> 14 February 2009 10:36> vedic astrology; ; sohamsa@ .com; sjcBoston@grou ps.com> Planetary Special Lagna Research> > Namaste,> > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and> > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information> > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail> > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.> > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.> > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting.> > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.> > > > * * *> > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special lagna research" feature can be used to show it in charts.> > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.> > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.> > > > * * *> > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married.> > [sanjay Rath:] Jupiter the lord of Hora is also 7th and 10th lord showing marriage especially since it is in 4th house. Varesha Sun conjoins Venus in 10th house Pisces and is in 7th from Jupiter. Marriage happened in the dasa of Moon placed in 12H from Varesha. Moon in 12H can surely give marriage. Since it is in 9H it also required you to travel a long distance for the same. > > But Ve7 also works very well. > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.> > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.> > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.> > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.> > [sanjay Rath:] If yu can attach jhd charts I can check these as well.> > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.> > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > [sanjay Rath:] TP 1967 is on Tuesday and Mars rules 4H (event for marriage and home) and is also badhakesha indicating something related to foreign country. It is placed in own sign in 11H indicating some good event related to marriage and home. Kala Hora is Rahu in 4H...definitely foreign wife if he marries in this year. Hora lord Venus in 8H> > Jupiter is exalted in 7H to give marriage in its dasa> > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa.> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.> > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.> > [sanjay Rath:] 7.30 am will give dhanus navamsha lagna with Mercury in it. This would make him a very able speaker and a superb businessman. I don’t think anyone can call him a great speaker and his track record in business is also not good.Try 7.26 am birth time with Scorpio navamsha lagna. > > > > * * *> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear PVR, I fully agree with you that this requires lot of wide research, how the other planets are working. Just I did a quick check on my chart and found it is working. It has to be checked with many more chart. Your input on Me10 is very important. 9th from Me10 is working fine. However, I keep on examining this on more charts, and let all know Regards Jk sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. RaoSunday, February 15, 2009 3:20 AMsohamsa ; vedic astrology ; Subject: Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research Dear JK, > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used? I have not spent much time on this to iron out everything. I looked at many examples with some specific planetary special lagnas and drew some confident conclusions. That's all. The rest needs more work. I may or may not have more time to spend on this and refine this. So I shared the gist of what I found. * * * Let me consider another special lagna that I studied earlier. You can use Me10 for one's work. I saw that the 1st, 5th and 9th houses and their links to lagna matter for seeing good phases of fame and luck in one's work. For example, Tom Hanks has Me10 in Cp. The 5th lord from it is Venus and he has 3/4th aspect on lagna within a degree. His dasa during 1980-2000 made him famous in his work. Amitabh Bachchan has Me10 in Ge. Saturn is the 9th lord and he owns and aspects lagna. Saturn dasa brought luck in work. Aishwarya Rai has Me10 in Ar and Mars is in it. He is the dispositor of lagna lord and aspects lagna lord by 8th aspect. He links Me10 to lagna. His dasa established her as a star. Pt Sanjay Rath has Me10 in Ge. Venus is the 5th lord and has half aspect on lagna and lagna lord. Lagna Vimsottari dasa of Venus made him well-known in his work. Dr BV Raman had Me10 in Le. The 5th lord from Me10, Jupiter, has 3/4th aspect on lagna. Jupiter dasa during 1937-1953 made him well-known in his work. Swami Vivekananda had Me10 in Le. The 5th house has lagna! Jupiter owns it and Sun occupis it. In Jupiter's Shashtihayani dasa and Sun's Lagna-Shashtihayani dasa, he became well-known for his work. * * * Please keep in mind that we astrologers tend to see shapes in clouds and draw conclusions prematurely. When doing research, one has to be disciplined and strict. Just because Ve7 and Su5 seem to work well with several examples in a particular way, don't assume that everything else will work similarly. There may be perculiarities with each special lagna that need to be understood with specific examples of that special lagna! Never jump to conclusions based on one or two charts. Try tens of example and find simple patterns that consistently repeat in all of them, before you satisfy yourself. Also a principle that needs to be 'special cased' for every other example is useless. If you have a well-defined simple principle working consistently in many charts, then only there is something worthwhile. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta wrote:>> Dear Utpal,> > Yes, it works. How all the planets can be used?> > 7th from Ve7- marriage> 12th from Ke12- spiritual matters> 5th from Su5(GL)- power> > What about other planets? Just my thought,> > 4th from Mo4- happyness, vehicle> 5th from Ju5- children> 6th from Ma6- enemity> 6th from Sa6 - sickness, service> 8th from Ma8- accident> 9th from Ju9- fortune, dharma> 7th from Me10- business ???> 10th from Me10- proffession?> > Wealth, money, lottery etc. from where to see?> And how to use Rahu?> > Regards> > Jk> > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of> utpal pathak> Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:30 PM> sohamsa > Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research> > correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008> > sohamsa , "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak@>> wrote:> >> > Dear JKDa,> >> > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House.> >> > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50> >> > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my> > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009> >> > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as> well> > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars again in> > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per Mixed> > settings.> >> > Take TP of 2008/9.> >> > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is Budha> > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also> > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.> >> > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha.> >> > seems Intresting !> >> > Best Regards,> >> > Utpal> >> > sohamsa , "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear PVR,> > >> > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord> in> > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa.> > >> > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have> > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL) for> > power etc.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Jk> > >> > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]> On> > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao> > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM> > > vedic astrology ;> > ; sohamsa ;> > sjcBoston > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research> > >> > > Namaste,> > >> > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and> > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the> > information> > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in> > detail> > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on> > Astrology.> > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.> > >> > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a> parampara.> > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.> > >> > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just> > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with> > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these> > special planetary lagnas to be interesting.> > >> > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to> > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please> > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread> > it freely.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna,> ghati> > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time> > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the> same> > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the> zodiac> > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of> > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in> > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special lagna> > research" feature can be used to show it in charts.> > >> > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the> speed> > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and> > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.> > >> > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as> > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In> my> > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for> > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa)> > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some> > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage> > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and> lagna.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,> > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from> Ve7> > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-> > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7> > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord> > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA> > dasa, the native got married.> > >> > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,> > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins> > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama> > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus.> Marriage> > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.> > >> > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,> > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th> > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-> > Saturn antardasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is> in> > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th> > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST),> 80e23,> > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li.> Its> > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by> > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars> > antardasa gave marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house> > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus.> > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,> > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects> > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th> lord> > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury.> Marriage> > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.> > >> > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45> > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is> Saturn> > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on> the> > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-> > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought> > marriage.> > >> > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12,> > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars> aspects> > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the> > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She> got> > married in Mars-Sun antardasa.> > >> > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord> from> > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted> > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual> TA> > dasa brought marriage.> > >> > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4> > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7> is> > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon.> Dwisaptati> > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that> dasa,> > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.> > >> > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from> > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married> > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special> lagnas> > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can> > also be used. This is an area for research.> > >> > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when> Ketu> > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around> > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how> > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th> house> > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that> > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment> happen.> > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo> > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the> 12th> > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very> > interesting coincidence.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special> > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL> > to lagna can bring political power based on my research.> > >> > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He> > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa,> Jupiter> > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his> > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and> he> > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.> > >> > > Let us see one more example.> > >> > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January> 5,> > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is> > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started> in> > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in> > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha> drishti> > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005> > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is> > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects> > lagna. He can give political power again.> > >> > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from> > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central> > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.> > >> > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west> > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18", 42n19'54"). Lagna is in> > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He> became> > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in> Jupiter-> > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.> > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.> > >> > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from> > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord> > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in> > presidential elections.> > >> > > * * *> > >> > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas> > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts> > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi> > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).> > >> > > Best regards,> > > Narasimha> > > -------------------------> --> > -> > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself:> > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana> > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > -------------------------> --> > -> > > -> > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran> > > jhora > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM> > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given> > by Sri Narasimharaogaru> > >> > > Sri Narasimharao garu,> > >> > > Namaste. You have mentioned some> exciting> > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You> may> > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to> know> > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your> > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly> > enlighten me on this.> > >> > > with regards,> > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Narasimha, Hare Rama Krsna Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts. Best wishes Kasim vedic astrology ; ; sohamsa ; sjcBoston: pvr: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500 Planetary Special Lagna Research  Namaste, > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting. I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. * * * Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. * * * Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. * * * Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area for research. For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence. * * * GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political power based on my research. Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. Let us see one more example. Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again. In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections. * * * Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). Best regards,Narasimha------------------------------\ ---Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org--------------------\ ------------- - Balasubramaniam Ramachandran jhora Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru Sri Narasimharao garu, Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. 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Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Narasimha, Hare Rama Krsna Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts. Best wishes Kasim vedic astrology ; ; sohamsa ; sjcBoston: pvr: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500 Planetary Special Lagna Research  Namaste, > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting. I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. * * * Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. * * * Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage. Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. * * * Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area for research. For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence. * * * GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political power based on my research. Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. Let us see one more example. Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again. In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections. * * * Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). Best regards,Narasimha------------------------------\ ---Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org--------------------\ ------------- - Balasubramaniam Ramachandran jhora Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru Sri Narasimharao garu, Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. 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Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Kasim Khan Prabhu, Why specifically these two individuals? Gates and Branson? Please share with us what you know about these two specifically that makes you sure that these two are good examples? Rohiniranjan , Kasim Khan <kasim_ch wrote: > > > Dear Narasimha, > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts. > > Best wishes > > Kasim > vedic astrology ; ; sohamsa ; sjcBoston: pvr: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500 Planetary Special Lagna Research > >  > > > Namaste, > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. > > * * * > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. > > * * * > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter- Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu- Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > * * * > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This is an area for research. > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti- zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence. > > > * * * > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring political power based on my research. > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > Let us see one more example. > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again. > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter- Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections. > > * * * > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > Best regards,Narasimha------------- --------------------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org---------- ----------------------- > > - > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > jhora > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri Narasimharaogaru > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > with regards, > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > _______________ > just got better .Video display pics, contact updates & more. > http://www.download.live.com/messenger > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Kasim Khan Prabhu I second Ranjan ji.Your typical questions on Gates/Bransn chart. Moreover your comments about Shri Rath is capable of generating suspicion in the minds of readers regarding the real intention behind the email. Best Regards Pradeep , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Kasim Khan Prabhu, > > Why specifically these two individuals? Gates and Branson? > > Please share with us what you know about these two specifically that > makes you sure that these two are good examples? > > Rohiniranjan > > > , Kasim Khan <kasim_ch@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly > written. I find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently > negative comments from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath.I wonder if you can > give an example how you use HL in the approach below. You can give > examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Kasim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology ; ; > sohamsa ; sjcBoston@: pvr@: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 > 00:05:35 -0500 Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > >  > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > information > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So > it is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special > planetary lagnas to be interesting. > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, > please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel > free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it > freely. > > > > * * * > > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about > 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " > feature can be used to show it in charts. > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage. > > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is > related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna. > > > > * * * > > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn- > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is > Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in > the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the > native got married. > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter- > Saturn antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th > aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars > antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from > Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter- > Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. > Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu- > Rahu antardasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am > (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and > he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th > from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu > antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought > marriage. > > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. > Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by > 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor > of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in > Mars-Sun antardasa. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus > and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa > brought marriage. > > > > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs > west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in > Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama > dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got > married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 > is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in > Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > > > * * * > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also > be used. This is an area for research. > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around the > zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 > is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti- > zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and > lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment happen. > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very > interesting coincidence. > > > > > > * * * > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary > lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can > bring political power based on my research. > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins > lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa > during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended. > > > > Let us see one more example. > > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January 5, > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter dasa is > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and aspects > lagna. He can give political power again. > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL > is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister > in Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of > GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter- > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL > is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in > Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential > elections. > > > > * * * > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem > to be important for important events in both natal charts (using the > most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts > (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa). > > > > Best regards,Narasimha----------- -- > --------------------Do a Short Homam Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org-------- -- > ----------------------- > > > > - > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran > > jhora > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri > Narasimharaogaru > > > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer to know > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly > enlighten me on this. > > > > with regards, > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > > _______________ > > just got better .Video display pics, contact > updates & more. > > http://www.download.live.com/messenger > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Namaste Ramdas ji, i wish to clarify your query hoping that you would not mind. > In Shukra7 Lagna,you mentioned that Shukra7 > Lagna will have the same longitude as Shukra Shukra7 (Ve7) will have same longitude *at the time of Shukroday*. it means that at the time of Rise of Venus, Longitude of Ve7 will be same as that of Venus. I am posting the writing of Narasimha again which will help clarifying your point further [ At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. ] The placement of Ve7 in chart of 4.4.1970 (whose chart is this??) will be in Mithuna in 10th House. to find out this do the following: Go to 'Edit' and Sub Menu 'Planetary Special Lagnas (Research)' Select the 'Planet' from Drop Down (Venus in this case) and Select 'Special Factor' from 1 to 12 (7 in this case). This will indicate Ve7 lagna in all the chart hope this is what you wanted to know. Warm Regards, Utpal sohamsa , Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote: > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH > Dear Chi.Narasimha, > It is really a great research on special Lagnas.But still I wanted to > clarify some important matters.In Shukra7 Lagna,you mentioned that Shukra7 > Lagna will have the same longitude as Shukra.But in the example 1 given > ie.,4/4/1970 born native,17-47-13 Hrs.Lagna falls in Kanya and Shukra is > placed in Mesha Rashi,so Shukra7 has to be placed where ? Please clarify > this point.In JH software where I have to look for this ? > With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Kasim Khan <kasim_ch wrote: > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Your thoughts and research are very interesting and very lucidly written. I > > find it wonderful how you remain calm despite apparently negative comments > > from your dear Guru Sanjay Rath. > > > > I wonder if you can give an example how you use HL in the approach below. > > You can give examples perhaps using Bill Gates or Richard Branson's charts. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Kasim > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > vedic astrology ; ; > > sohamsa ; sjcBoston > > pvr > > Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:05:35 -0500 > > Planetary Special Lagna Research > > > >  > > Namaste, > > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it > > is not covered by any classic or modern book. > > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it > > and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In > > my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be > > interesting. > > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please > > ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the > > knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely. > > > > * * * > > > > *Definition of Ve7:* Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna > > etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time Venus rises > > (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. > > It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of > > Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. > > So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's > > " special lagna research " feature can be used to show it in charts. > > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you > > get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 > > has to do with marriage. > > > > *Use of Ve7:* Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references > > and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found > > that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of > > marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th > > from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of > > the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from > > Ve7 and lagna. > > > > * * * > > > > *Example 1:* Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In > > the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and > > lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave > > marriage. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and > > 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house > > of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married. > > > > *Example 2:* Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. > > Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord > > Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is > > in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is > > Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in > > Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart. > > > > *Example 3:* Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. > > Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. > > Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave > > marriage. > > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is > > Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he > > aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. > > His annual TA dasa gave marriage. > > > > *Example 4:* Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. > > Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. > > He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using > > Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage. > > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is > > aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter- Jupiter antardasa > > as per annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > > *Example 5:* Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 > > is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu- Rahu > > antardasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is > > Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in > > Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart. > > > > *Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi):* Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), > > 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is > > aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and > > 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per > > Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage. > > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is > > Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage. > > > > *Example 7:* Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is > > in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The > > 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, > > and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa. > > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is > > Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he > > aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought > > marriage. > > > > *Example 8 (George Bush):* Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west > > of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th > > from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as > > 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in > > Moon-Jupiter antardasa. > > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is > > aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu > > antardasa as per annual TA dasa. > > > > * * * > > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special lagnas based on > > other planets and other houses can be defined. They can also be used. This > > is an area for research. > > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when Ketu rises, > > progress **anti-zodiacally** at a uniform speed to go around the zodiac > > (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how Ke12 is found. It > > changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th house anti- zodiacally from > > Ke12. When dasas activate links between that and lagna, important events > > relating to spiritual detachment happen. Interestingly, Ramakrishna > > Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Aurobindo Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara > > Saraswati all have lagna in the 12th house from Ke12 when counted > > anti-zodiacally. It is a very interesting coincidence. > > > > * * * > > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special planetary lagna > > notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th from GL to lagna can bring > > political power based on my research. > > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He joins lagna > > lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa, Jupiter dasa during April > > 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his presidency (political power). > > Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and he is in lagna. In his antardasa, his > > second term ended. > > > > Let us see one more example. > > > > *Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi):* Birthdata is 1934 January 5, 10:17 > > am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter and he > > aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa started in 1997 and he became a > > central minister in India in 1998. Ketu is in 12th from GL and has rasi > > drishti on lagna (he has no graha drishti and hence we see rasi drishti > > only). His antardasa in 2004-2005 brought loss of political power. Moon > > antardasa in Jupiter dasa is running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th > > from GL and aspects lagna. He can give political power again. > > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord from GL is > > Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central minister in > > Jupiter's annual TA dasa. > > > > *Example 10 (JFK):* Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west of GMT), > > Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in vargottama and > > Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He became a congressman in > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in Jupiter-Moon antardasa. Jupiter > > is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna. Moon is in GL and has half aspect > > on 5th from GL and lagna lord. > > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord from GL is > > Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord Mercury in Ge. > > Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in presidential elections. > > > > * * * > > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas seem to be > > important for important events in both natal charts (using the most > > appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi Pravesha charts (using Tithi > > Ashtottari dasa). > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > -------------------------------- - > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/h omam> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana<http://www.vedicastrologer.org /tarpana> > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org<http://www..org/> > > -------------------------------- - > > > > - > > ** Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 > > *To:* jhora > > *Sent:* Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM > > *Subject:* jhora re: special lagna clarification given by Sri > > Narasimharaogaru > > > > Sri Narasimharao garu, > > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some exciting aspects of > > special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the > > information as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in > > detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. I > > will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this. > > > > with regards, > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos †" Free Try it Now! <http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.a spx> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Namaste Sanjay My dob 14/05/1980, time 8:10 (someone had rectified it to 8:05). PM. Place Calcutta. Vrischik lagna, vrishab rasi. My TP 2008 starts from 4th June. In july I had a sort of renewal of argument with my mother (something that I had even having even before) regarding my relationship. This I think is because of Mars being the LL. From September (I do not remember the exact date) I started doing homas on a regular basis. (I had attempted a few disorganized homas in 2007). But this was different in the sense of discipline, regularity and focus. Since then I have continued doing so. Which means about 6 months of regular homa. In December 2008, last week, I went on a trip to Kasi. It went wonderfully well. Visited a lot of temples. Job, during this period has been uneventful. Otherwise, nothing special has happened. So from my point of view, the most crucial thing is the regularized effort I started in terms of Homas. Jup retro in 9th house of TP. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Wed, 25/2/09, Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiarRe: Re: Planetary Special Lagna Researchsohamsa Date: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 4:17 PM || Om Gurave NAmah ||Dear Rajarshi, Can you please pass your birth details and significant events in 2008TP year. Warm RegardsSanjay P 2009/2/15 rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Namaste I respectfully suggest that there is none in these vaaresha and hora lord principles. Just adding my two bits into it (I may of course be completely wrong), I have seen the varesh or hora lord in my TP chart not being of any special significance in terms of events. In my 2008 TP, I had aries lagna with mars and ketu in cancer, and sun along with moon, merc, venus in 2nd house is tauras. Mars was the Varesh and sun the Hora lord. I did not have any special significant even related to home/mother (4th house mars), or in my relationship and neither any thing good or bad related to finances (2nd house sun) or 5th house (children or supporters). But I had a retrograde jupter in dhanu in 9th house and I did start off with some spiritual practises in a regularised manner. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 15/2/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research sohamsa@ .com, vedic astrologySunday, 15 February, 2009, 3:19 AM  Dear Sanjay, > Why complicate this so much. Different minds perceive different things as simple and as complicated. > Marriage happened in the dasa of Moon placed in 12H > from Varesha. Moon in 12H can surely give marriage. In the eight examples I gave yesterday, I looked at the houses occupied by dasa lord (at the time of marriage) from varesha of annual TP chart. There were six different houses - 1st, 4th, 6th, 8th, 9th and 12th houses. Six different houses in eight examples! We hardly have a pattern. Similarly, if I look at the house occupied by vaaresha from hora lord, it has a big variance. There is no pattern. I am looking for a repeatable, well-defined and consistent formula. I respectfully suggest that there is none in these vaaresha and hora lord principles. > Kala Hora is Rahu in 4H...definitely foreign wife if he marries in this year. Rahu is neither hora lord nor mahakala hora lord. He is the kaala lord. I am assuming you meant "Kala lord is Rahu in 4th" and typed "Hora" instead of "lord". Anyway, Why should the placement of kala lord be important in deciding spouse?? Well, I will give a counter-example. The 1998-99 annual TP chart of example 2 also has kaala lord as Rahu and Rahu is in 7th house. Native was married in that year. However, he did not get a foreigner wife. He got a wife from the same caste, sect and region of India. > [sanjay Rath:] 7.30 am will give dhanus navamsha lagna with > Mercury in it. This would make him a very able speaker and > a superb businessman. I don’t think anyone can call him > a great speaker and his track record in business is also not > good.Try 7.26 am birth time with Scorpio navamsha lagna. With the data I gave (7:30 am), I do get Sc navamsa lagna. Make sure that you entered the data as I gave. Check the longitude, latitude and time zone. In any case, he does have a good track record in business. He invested $800,000 in Texas Rangers baseball franchise to become a managing partner and finally made $15 million when he sold his shares and got out. * * * There are many other techniques and some of them work nicely. However, we have hundreds of parameters and choose the ones we want to link on an example-by-example basis. That way, we will impress people with the vastness of our knowledge, but don't really help them make real predictions. Though I also presented a methodology containing hundreds of new parameters (planetary special lagnas), I have given a very specific formula involving two specific parameters (lagna and the 7th from Ve7). I tried tens of charts (natal as well as annual) and it seems to work in about 80% cases. There seems to be some worth in it. As I said yesterday, "If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.". Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- sohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath wrote:> > om paramesthi gurave namah> > Dear Narasimha> > Why complicate this so much. In the annual TP chart, provided dasha and other factors favour, marriage will surely occur in the year the 7th house or 4th house has some link to the Varesha of the year. Examine the Hora Lord in a similar manner to determine the bhavas under focus....standard rules> > In years where Varesha/Hora is related to 2nd house or 5th house, birth of children happens.> > Su1 to Su12 can be said to be special ascendants as the Sun is the creator of the ascendants. > > Your research is good. I have added a few comments to play the role of the questioning fellow, so that good research is used well ...> > With Warm Regards> > Sanjay Rath> > http://srath. com http://sohamsa. com http:// .org> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India> > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao> 14 February 2009 10:36> vedic astrology; ; sohamsa@ .com; sjcBoston@grou ps.com > Planetary Special Lagna Research> > Namaste,> > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna and> > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the information> > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in detail> > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on Astrology. > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.> > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a parampara. So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.> > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition with some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these special planetary lagnas to be interesting.> > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense to you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you, please feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also spread it freely.> > > > * * *> > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna, ghati lagna etc. We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the same longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the zodiac and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's rise of Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg in about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special lagna research" feature can be used to show it in charts.> > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the speed factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power and authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.> > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as references and houses can be found from them just like lagna. In my experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa) is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and lagna.> > > > * * *> > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12, 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7 is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA dasa, the native got married.> > [sanjay Rath:] Jupiter the lord of Hora is also 7th and 10th lord showing marriage especially since it is in 4th house. Varesha Sun conjoins Venus in 10th house Pisces and is in 7th from Jupiter. Marriage happened in the dasa of Moon placed in 12H from Varesha. Moon in 12H can surely give marriage. Since it is in 9H it also required you to travel a long distance for the same. > > But Ve7 also works very well. > > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21, 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus. Marriage happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.> > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28, 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-Saturn antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is in lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.> > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST), 80e23, 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in Li. Its lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him by 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-Mars antardasa gave marriage.> > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06, 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna aspects it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.> > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury. Marriage happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.> > [sanjay Rath:] If yu can attach jhd charts I can check these as well.> > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45 am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is Saturn and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect on the 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them. Saturn-Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.> > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > [sanjay Rath:] TP 1967 is on Tuesday and Mars rules 4H (event for marriage and home) and is also badhakesha indicating something related to foreign country. It is placed in own sign in 11H indicating some good event related to marriage and home. Kala Hora is Rahu in 4H...definitely foreign wife if he marries in this year. Hora lord Venus in 8H> > Jupiter is exalted in 7H to give marriage in its dasa> > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12, 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars aspects it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins the dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them. She got married in Mars-Sun antardasa.> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought marriage.> > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4 hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon. Dwisaptati sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that dasa, he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.> > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.> > [sanjay Rath:] 7.30 am will give dhanus navamsha lagna with Mercury in it. This would make him a very able speaker and a superb businessman. I don’t think anyone can call him a great speaker and his track record in business is also not good.Try 7.26 am birth time with Scorpio navamsha lagna. > > > > * * *> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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