Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao jhora Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:32 AM Re: JH73 and 7or8 charakaras Namaste, I am cc'ing it to other Jyotish lists because there is a useful point below on 22nd drekkana. Q1: When two planets are in the same degree, one planet misses out on a cabinet portfolio and that portfolio goes to the corresponding sthira karaka. That sthira karaka may have another portfolio already. That is why you may sometimes see AmK becoming PK also, etc. Q2: Antardasa calculation in Karaka dasa was not mentioned by Parasara. I experimented 4 possibilities and found this working well. This is an experimental deduction and could be wrong. But mahadasas were clearly defined by Parasara. Q3: I don't use 22nd drekkana that much. But, in my limited experience, 22nd drekkana based on the Jagannatha drekkana chart seems to be the best to see suffering and death. Actually, I suggest taking the 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from lagna as well as from *Moon*. Though JHora does not give from Moon, it is easy to calculate manually. Actually, you can also select " Edit " in main menu, then " user defined special point " and define a special point that is 210 deg ahead of Moon. See the position of that special point in D-3 (Jagannatha). That way, you can find the 22nd Jagannatha drekkana lord from Moon. For example, Indira Gandhi's 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon is in Aries. She died in Mars-Mars dasa as per dwisaptati sama dasa. JFKennedy's 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon is in Sagittarius. He died in Jupiter mahadasa as per vimsottari dasa and Jupiter antardasa as per sataabdika dasa. Like this, 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon seems to be significant just as the one from lagna. Ronald Reagan's 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon is in Leo. He died in the antardasa of Sun. Though my experience with this has been limited, the correlations I found in limited studies seemed signifcant enough to me. I actually found the 22nd Jagannatha drekkana lord from Moon to be more useful than that from lagna. Q4: Actually, I recommend Modified Lahiri with Chitra fixed at 180 deg AND using the fixed Vishnunabhi plane. Unfortunately, as I mentioned on JHora list earlier, I messed it up and introduced a bug when finalizing the user interface in the software. I will fix it soon. This time, I will first release the update on jhora and release it publicly after some initial testing by jhora members. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - SAR108 jhora Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:21 AM Re: Re: JH73 and 7or8 charakaras Dear Narasimha, Thank you for JH73, the best Christmas gift, indeed! Are you sure you are from this world, Narasimha? I've never met anybody like yourself in my entire /long/ life. I have a problem understanding the logic behind Parashara's charakaraka sheme applied in JH73. In most cases when 7 karakas are applicable, MK and PK are represented in one planet. That I understand. -However I came across some charts where one planet stands for both AmK and PK, or AK and PK- I am not getting this, please clarify. - This consistently appears in KarakaDasa, as well, where One planet presents one karaka on Maha Dasa level /AmK/, and the same planet appears in AntarD. as PK! ETC... I wish I knew why that happens, which criteria have been applied. -I am just curious to learn the process, how you figured out antard. calculation method. -One more Q, please! Re 22nd and 64th drekkana. The later is clear. But with 22nd d. we have 3 options- which one do you use? If more than one, how do you decide 'when'-'which' -And, your ayanamsa choice is Modified Lahiri /Chitra at 180/, right? Thank you Narasimha. Happy Holidays to you, Padmaja, children, Family, may health and joy follow you where you go. Respectfully, Anna Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1805 - Release 11/22/2008 10:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Dear Narasimha, Long time no C! Lot of water has flown under the bridge since the 90s when a similar discussion had taken place between Nandan Chirmulay and the rest of us on Ben Collins' Jyotish List when Nandan insisted that Parashara implied the conjunction of two planets in the degree (as a step towards deciding whether rahu should participate in the chara karaka scheme) and I believe your and Sanjay's position was that the degree, minutes and seconds (spashta in other words) be taken into consideration. Have you now reconcilled that degree and not the rest of the 'longitude' needs to be taken into consideration? I realize that the context is different in your message below and not about chara karaka determination specifically. I realize that you are a busy individual and doing a lot of good so reply only if you have the time and if you actually see this question. Merry Christmas/ Happy Holidays in case I do not hear from you! Rohiniranjan vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > - > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > jhora > Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:32 AM > Re: JH73 and 7or8 charakaras > > > Namaste, > > I am cc'ing it to other Jyotish lists because there is a useful point below on 22nd drekkana. > > Q1: When two planets are in the same degree, one planet misses out on a cabinet portfolio and that portfolio goes to the corresponding sthira karaka. That sthira karaka may have another portfolio already. That is why you may sometimes see AmK becoming PK also, etc. > > Q2: Antardasa calculation in Karaka dasa was not mentioned by Parasara. I experimented 4 possibilities and found this working well. This is an experimental deduction and could be wrong. But mahadasas were clearly defined by Parasara. > > Q3: I don't use 22nd drekkana that much. But, in my limited experience, 22nd drekkana based on the Jagannatha drekkana chart seems to be the best to see suffering and death. Actually, I suggest taking the 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from lagna as well as from *Moon*. Though JHora does not give from Moon, it is easy to calculate manually. Actually, you can also select " Edit " in main menu, then " user defined special point " and define a special point that is 210 deg ahead of Moon. See the position of that special point in D-3 (Jagannatha). That way, you can find the 22nd Jagannatha drekkana lord from Moon. > > For example, Indira Gandhi's 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon is in Aries. She died in Mars-Mars dasa as per dwisaptati sama dasa. JFKennedy's 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon is in Sagittarius. He died in Jupiter mahadasa as per vimsottari dasa and Jupiter antardasa as per sataabdika dasa. Like this, 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon seems to be significant just as the one from lagna. Ronald Reagan's 22nd Jagannatha drekkana from Moon is in Leo. He died in the antardasa of Sun. > > Though my experience with this has been limited, the correlations I found in limited studies seemed signifcant enough to me. I actually found the 22nd Jagannatha drekkana lord from Moon to be more useful than that from lagna. > > Q4: Actually, I recommend Modified Lahiri with Chitra fixed at 180 deg AND using the fixed Vishnunabhi plane. Unfortunately, as I mentioned on JHora list earlier, I messed it up and introduced a bug when finalizing the user interface in the software. I will fix it soon. This time, I will first release the update on jhora and release it publicly after some initial testing by jhora members. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > - > SAR108 > jhora > Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:21 AM > Re: Re: JH73 and 7or8 charakaras > > Dear Narasimha, > > Thank you for JH73, the best Christmas gift, indeed! > Are you sure you are from this world, Narasimha? I've never met anybody like yourself in my entire /long/ life. > > I have a problem understanding the logic behind Parashara's charakaraka sheme applied in JH73. In most cases when 7 karakas are applicable, MK and PK are represented in one planet. That I understand. > > -However I came across some charts where one planet stands for both AmK and PK, or AK and PK- I am not getting this, please clarify. > > - This consistently appears in KarakaDasa, as well, where One planet presents one karaka on Maha Dasa level /AmK/, and the same planet appears in AntarD. as PK! ETC... > I wish I knew why that happens, which criteria have been applied. > > -I am just curious to learn the process, how you figured out antard. calculation method. > > -One more Q, please! Re 22nd and 64th drekkana. The later is clear. > But with 22nd d. we have 3 options- which one do you use? > If more than one, how do you decide 'when'-'which' > > -And, your ayanamsa choice is Modified Lahiri /Chitra at 180/, right? > > Thank you Narasimha. > > Happy Holidays to you, Padmaja, children, Family, > may health and joy follow you where you go. > > Respectfully, > Anna > > > > > > -- ---------- > > Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! > > > > > > -- ---------- > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1805 - Release Date: 11/22/2008 10:34 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.