Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Muslim terrorists are doing it, Islam the religion of satan. The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Thu, 27/11/08, lakshmikary <lakshmikary wrote: lakshmikary <lakshmikary Lots of bomb attacks in Indiasohamsa Date: Thursday, 27 November, 2008, 5:09 AM Hare Rama KrishnaDear All,Does anyone want to give an astrological post on all the bombings in India.WHo is doing it? Will it continue?Best wishesLakshmi Bring your gang together. Do your thing.. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Dear Lakshmi, Sanjay ji has already mentioned a very interesting point based on 5-year compressed Vimsottari dasa of PM Manmohan Singh's inauguration muhurta. I will mention one more point based on India's independence chart. Take the 2008-09 annual TP chart of India's independence chart. The data is 2008 August 29, 4:56:36 am (IST), Delhi. This chart has Cancer rising. Lagna is in gandanta. Its lord Moon is in lagna and afflicted by Ketu within 5 deg. The 8th lord Rahu is in 7th and aspects Moon closely. Moon dasa started on Nov 25. This can explain terrorist activities that affect the collective mind of India's people. * * * In India's independence chart, 5th lord Mercury is in Scorpio navamsa. The 5th lord shows poorva punya. His navamsa is important. Right now, Sun, Mars and Mercury are transiting in Scorpio. This shows actions that tap into the poorva punya. The 7th lord of rasi is in Sg navamsa. In Sg, Jupiter and Venus are transiting. This shows a positive PR on the international scene, co-operation and good relations with other nations. This event may be an inflection point. In the long run, this may turn out to be the last straw on the camel's back. This event may increase sympathy for India, increase awareness of the problem and increase co-operation from other nations. This may event may also trigger some tangible actions in the future from India and the world to combat the problem at its root. We will wait and see. * * * If you use current JHora, you will get TP in the night of 2008 July 30. I want to explain why I get a different chart. Sanjay ji's teaching (and mine so far) on TP was that Sun should be in the natal sign and Moon should be at the same angle from him. However, in tradition, festivals and birthdays of gods and people are not celebrated this way. Those are celebrated based on the lunar calendar without reference to Sun's sign. The sign occupied by Sun at the beginning of a lunar month is seen and it decides the name of the lunar month. During the month, solar sign is irrelevant. For example, Lord Rama's birthday is celebrated on the Sukla navami tithi of the lunar month of Chaitra, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be on Pisces in some years and Aries in others. Similarly, Lord Krishna's birthday is celebrated on the Krishna Ashtami tithi of the lunar month of Sraavana, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be in Cancer in some years and in Leo in others. The same tradition is followed in deciding festivals and birthdays of gods, saints and normal people. It is possible to use the same method in finding TP charts. Instead of requiring Sun to be in the same sign and then taking the tithi of birth in that *solar month* of birth, we can take the tithi of birth in the *lunar month* of birth. This change of definition results in the same calculations in some charts and some years, but alters in some others. In the above 2008 TP chart of India, the two definitions result in two different dates for TP. After my study and experimentation, I convinced myself to go with the tradition of celebrating birthdays based on the lunar month and tithi rather than mixing up solar month with lunar day (tithi). In other words, I convinced myself to change the teaching of Sanjay ji in this matter. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear All, > Does anyone want to give an astrological post on all the bombings in India. > WHo is doing it? Will it continue? > Best wishes > Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Dear Lakshmi, Sanjay ji has already mentioned a very interesting point based on 5-year compressed Vimsottari dasa of PM Manmohan Singh's inauguration muhurta. I will mention one more point based on India's independence chart. Take the 2008-09 annual TP chart of India's independence chart. The data is 2008 August 29, 4:56:36 am (IST), Delhi. This chart has Cancer rising. Lagna is in gandanta. Its lord Moon is in lagna and afflicted by Ketu within 5 deg. The 8th lord Rahu is in 7th and aspects Moon closely. Moon dasa started on Nov 25. This can explain terrorist activities that affect the collective mind of India's people. * * * In India's independence chart, 5th lord Mercury is in Scorpio navamsa. The 5th lord shows poorva punya. His navamsa is important. Right now, Sun, Mars and Mercury are transiting in Scorpio. This shows actions that tap into the poorva punya. The 7th lord of rasi is in Sg navamsa. In Sg, Jupiter and Venus are transiting. This shows a positive PR on the international scene, co-operation and good relations with other nations. This event may be an inflection point. In the long run, this may turn out to be the last straw on the camel's back. This event may increase sympathy for India, increase awareness of the problem and increase co-operation from other nations. This may event may also trigger some tangible actions in the future from India and the world to combat the problem at its root. We will wait and see. * * * If you use current JHora, you will get TP in the night of 2008 July 30. I want to explain why I get a different chart. Sanjay ji's teaching (and mine so far) on TP was that Sun should be in the natal sign and Moon should be at the same angle from him. However, in tradition, festivals and birthdays of gods and people are not celebrated this way. Those are celebrated based on the lunar calendar without reference to Sun's sign. The sign occupied by Sun at the beginning of a lunar month is seen and it decides the name of the lunar month. During the month, solar sign is irrelevant. For example, Lord Rama's birthday is celebrated on the Sukla navami tithi of the lunar month of Chaitra, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be on Pisces in some years and Aries in others. Similarly, Lord Krishna's birthday is celebrated on the Krishna Ashtami tithi of the lunar month of Sraavana, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be in Cancer in some years and in Leo in others. The same tradition is followed in deciding festivals and birthdays of gods, saints and normal people. It is possible to use the same method in finding TP charts. Instead of requiring Sun to be in the same sign and then taking the tithi of birth in that *solar month* of birth, we can take the tithi of birth in the *lunar month* of birth. This change of definition results in the same calculations in some charts and some years, but alters in some others. In the above 2008 TP chart of India, the two definitions result in two different dates for TP. After my study and experimentation, I convinced myself to go with the tradition of celebrating birthdays based on the lunar month and tithi rather than mixing up solar month with lunar day (tithi). In other words, I convinced myself to change the teaching of Sanjay ji in this matter. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear All, > Does anyone want to give an astrological post on all the bombings in India. > WHo is doing it? Will it continue? > Best wishes > Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Narasimha, Will you have an option in future releases of JHora for this change? In the past, you mentioned that you got a lot of success with TP charts - I assume they were based on Sanjay's teaching? Did you go back and review the successful predictions you made using the new logic? Did you get the same results? I think that should be a good yardstick and data points to prove that the new logic is sound. Will your book on TP contain this new logic? DB , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Dear Lakshmi, > > Sanjay ji has already mentioned a very interesting point based on 5- year compressed Vimsottari dasa of PM Manmohan Singh's inauguration muhurta. I will mention one more point based on India's independence chart. > > Take the 2008-09 annual TP chart of India's independence chart. The data is 2008 August 29, 4:56:36 am (IST), Delhi. > > This chart has Cancer rising. Lagna is in gandanta. Its lord Moon is in lagna and afflicted by Ketu within 5 deg. The 8th lord Rahu is in 7th and aspects Moon closely. Moon dasa started on Nov 25. This can explain terrorist activities that affect the collective mind of India's people. > > * * * > > In India's independence chart, 5th lord Mercury is in Scorpio navamsa. The 5th lord shows poorva punya. His navamsa is important. Right now, Sun, Mars and Mercury are transiting in Scorpio. This shows actions that tap into the poorva punya. > > The 7th lord of rasi is in Sg navamsa. In Sg, Jupiter and Venus are transiting. This shows a positive PR on the international scene, co- operation and good relations with other nations. > > This event may be an inflection point. In the long run, this may turn out to be the last straw on the camel's back. This event may increase sympathy for India, increase awareness of the problem and increase co-operation from other nations. This may event may also trigger some tangible actions in the future from India and the world to combat the problem at its root. We will wait and see. > > * * * > > If you use current JHora, you will get TP in the night of 2008 July 30. I want to explain why I get a different chart. > > Sanjay ji's teaching (and mine so far) on TP was that Sun should be in the natal sign and Moon should be at the same angle from him. > > However, in tradition, festivals and birthdays of gods and people are not celebrated this way. Those are celebrated based on the lunar calendar without reference to Sun's sign. The sign occupied by Sun at the beginning of a lunar month is seen and it decides the name of the lunar month. During the month, solar sign is irrelevant. > > For example, Lord Rama's birthday is celebrated on the Sukla navami tithi of the lunar month of Chaitra, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be on Pisces in some years and Aries in others. Similarly, Lord Krishna's birthday is celebrated on the Krishna Ashtami tithi of the lunar month of Sraavana, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be in Cancer in some years and in Leo in others. The same tradition is followed in deciding festivals and birthdays of gods, saints and normal people. > > It is possible to use the same method in finding TP charts. Instead of requiring Sun to be in the same sign and then taking the tithi of birth in that *solar month* of birth, we can take the tithi of birth in the *lunar month* of birth. This change of definition results in the same calculations in some charts and some years, but alters in some others. In the above 2008 TP chart of India, the two definitions result in two different dates for TP. > > After my study and experimentation, I convinced myself to go with the tradition of celebrating birthdays based on the lunar month and tithi rather than mixing up solar month with lunar day (tithi). In other words, I convinced myself to change the teaching of Sanjay ji in this matter. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear All, > > Does anyone want to give an astrological post on all the bombings in India. > > WHo is doing it? Will it continue? > > Best wishes > > Lakshmi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 In light of the latest carnage in Bombay, Politicians are not willing to take up the real issue. Why is everyone scared to say that what is shouted out daily in the mosques about the people they live with being Kafirs has to be outlawed first? The temples in India pay heavy taxes to the Indian government, so much that they are not able to properly develop or even support the temple community and culture. In contrast, the many mosques and churches are funded by the government (to work against India and other communities?). Why are we scared to say that this is wrong and should be outlawed?!!! Why is there no legislation outlawing this practice that is blatantly done every day in the streets and villages in so called secular India? Why are they allowed to sow and develop seeds of hatred in the young minds being sent for religious studies to the mosques and churches? The first day that I went to my son's school in Canada, I saw that they had put up big charts in the reception area in the entrance of the school. There were 6 charts, each talking about one religion. The first three were about Hinduism, Jainism and Sikhism. The first line in the Hindu religion chart read that Hindus worship many Gods and Goddesses that are all different aspects and forms of the same Universal God that they believe in. They had listed out the different books in Hinduism and what they spoke about so well. How many children in India are able to explain why we have multiple gods and goddesses? We are made ashamed to talk about the Hindu religion and the media is made to feel that it makes no sense! It is time we took pride in our identity and put up our heads and say we are HINDUS and tell our children the same. Why allow our own country men to defame our culture? It is time we inculcate religious studies in our schools that would talk about the holy books of all religions (including the Geeta and Upanishads) in their true light. An article from a Frenchman. From The New Indian Express - 21.10.2008 Edition Be aware of your roots Francois Gautier First Published : 21 Oct 2008 12:40:00 AM IST AS a Frenchman, I was coached right from childhood that logic, what we in France call Cartesianism, is the greatest gift given to man. Thus,I taught my students in a Bangalore school of journalism that the first tool of a good reporter is to go by his or her own judgment on the ground, with the help of one's first-hand experience - and not by second hand information: what your parents thought, what you have read in the newspapers, what your caste, religion, culture pushes you into. Yet in India, logic does not seem to apply to most of the media, especially when it touches anything Hindu. One cannot, for instance, equate Muslim terrorists who blow up innocent civilians in market places all over India, with angry ordinary Hindus who burn churches without killing anybody. We know that most of these communal incidents often involve persons of the same caste, Dalits and tribals, some converted to Christianity and some not. Then, however reprehensible the destruction of the Babri Masjid, no Muslim was killed in the process. Compare this with the 'vengeance' bombings of 1993 in Mumbai, which killed hundreds of innocents, mostly Hindus. Yet Indian and western journalists keep matching up the two, or even showing the Babri Masjid destruction as the more horrible act of the two. How can you compare the RSS, a bunch of harmless daddies, with the Indian Mujahideen, a terrorist organisation? How can you make of Narendra Modi a mass killer, when it was ordinary middle-class, or even Dalit Hindus, who went out on the streets in fury when 56 innocent people, many of them women and children, were burnt in a train? How can you lobby for the lifting of the ban on SIMI, an organisation which is suspected of ha ving planted bombs in many Indian cities,killing hundreds of innocents , while advocating the ban of the Bajrang Dal, which burns churches when an 84-year-old Hindu swami and his Mataji are brutally murdered? There is no logic in the perspective of journalists in this country when it comes to minorities. Christians are supposed to make up two per cent of the population in India, but last Sunday many major television channels showed live the canonisation ceremonies of sister Alphonsa, an obscure nun from Kerala. Union minister Oscar Fernandes led an entire Indian delegation to the Vatican ceremony along with the Indian ambassador. It would be impossible in England, for instance, which may have a 2 per cent Hindu minority, to have live coverage of a major Hindu ceremony, like the anointment of a new Shankaracharya. What was NDTV, which seems to have deliberately chosen to highlight this nonevent, trying to prove? That it is secular? But it is absolutely disproportionate. Some might even call it antinational. The hea dline, 'India gets its first woman saint', in many newspapers, Indian and western, is misleading. India has never been short of saints. The woman sage from over 3,000 years ago - Maithreyi, Andal, the Tamil saint from early in the first Millennium CE and Akkamahadevi, the 15th century saint from modernday Karnataka, are but a few examples. What many publications fail to mention in this story is that this is the first woman Christian saint, not the first Indian woman saint. Such a statement is OK when it comes, for instance, from the BBC,which always looks at India through the Christian prism, but when it comes to the Indian media, it only shows their grave lack of grounding in Indian culture and history. The same thing is true of Sonia Gandhi, who seemed, even though the Congress should by all means have already collapsed with 12 per cent inflation, scandal after scandal, a nuclear deal with the US that leaves India vulnerable to the Chinese and Pakistani nuclear threat, and bomb blast after bomb blast, still ruling India with an iron hand. Yet newspapers and TV channels keep praising Sonia Gandhi. And the question must be asked: how is it possible that a nation of a billion people, with some of the best minds on this planet, allows itself to be governed by a non-Indian lady, who, however sincere she may be, is actively overseeing the dismantling of whatever is good and true in India? It would be impossible in France for a Hindu woman, or for that matter a non-Christian person, who is just an elected MP, to govern our country from behind the scenes like an empress. Why is it allowed in India and why is the Indian press so selfrighteous about it ? Finally, when will Indians start being proud of themselves and their own culture and stop looking down on their own society ? This inferiority complex, as expressed by NDTV's live coverage of the canonisation of sister Alphonsa, is a legacy of the British, who strove to show themselves as superior and In dian culture as inferior (and inheritor of the 'White Aryans', a totally false theory). Is it not time to institute schools of journalism, both private and public, where not only a little bit of logic is taught, but where students are made aware of Indian history and the greatness of Indian culture, so that when they go out reporting, they use their own judgment and become Indian journalists, with a little bit of feeling, pride and love for their own country? <fgautier fgautier <fgautier <fgautier%40rediffmail.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Narasimha,So which is the correct method of calculation - solar or lunar month?The reasoning you have given for lunar month is:1) This is the common consenses and it is when festivals in India are celebrated.2) It works better for you.Can you give any other reasoning? I know that in the west festivals have lost a lot of meaning and particularly accurate astronomical significance ie. Christmas and Easter. And your second point is quite subjective.I had learnt previously that the beauty of tithi pravesha was that it took both the Sun and the Moon into account. Here it seems you are ignoring/avoiding Surya and the Dwadasa Aditya.Respectfully,MichalNarasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrsohamsa ; vedic astrology ; Sent: Sunday, 30 November, 2008 5:20:43 PM Re: Lots of bomb attacks in India Dear Lakshmi, Sanjay ji has already mentioned a very interesting point based on 5-year compressed Vimsottari dasa of PM Manmohan Singh's inauguration muhurta. I will mention one more point based on India's independence chart. Take the 2008-09 annual TP chart of India's independence chart. The data is 2008 August 29, 4:56:36 am (IST), Delhi. This chart has Cancer rising. Lagna is in gandanta. Its lord Moon is in lagna and afflicted by Ketu within 5 deg. The 8th lord Rahu is in 7th and aspects Moon closely. Moon dasa started on Nov 25. This can explain terrorist activities that affect the collective mind of India's people. * * * In India's independence chart, 5th lord Mercury is in Scorpio navamsa. The 5th lord shows poorva punya. His navamsa is important. Right now, Sun, Mars and Mercury are transiting in Scorpio. This shows actions that tap into the poorva punya. The 7th lord of rasi is in Sg navamsa. In Sg, Jupiter and Venus are transiting. This shows a positive PR on the international scene, co-operation and good relations with other nations. This event may be an inflection point. In the long run, this may turn out to be the last straw on the camel's back. This event may increase sympathy for India, increase awareness of the problem and increase co-operation from other nations. This may event may also trigger some tangible actions in the future from India and the world to combat the problem at its root. We will wait and see. * * * If you use current JHora, you will get TP in the night of 2008 July 30. I want to explain why I get a different chart. Sanjay ji's teaching (and mine so far) on TP was that Sun should be in the natal sign and Moon should be at the same angle from him. However, in tradition, festivals and birthdays of gods and people are not celebrated this way. Those are celebrated based on the lunar calendar without reference to Sun's sign. The sign occupied by Sun at the beginning of a lunar month is seen and it decides the name of the lunar month. During the month, solar sign is irrelevant. For example, Lord Rama's birthday is celebrated on the Sukla navami tithi of the lunar month of Chaitra, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be on Pisces in some years and Aries in others. Similarly, Lord Krishna's birthday is celebrated on the Krishna Ashtami tithi of the lunar month of Sraavana, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may be in Cancer in some years and in Leo in others. The same tradition is followed in deciding festivals and birthdays of gods, saints and normal people. It is possible to use the same method in finding TP charts. Instead of requiring Sun to be in the same sign and then taking the tithi of birth in that *solar month* of birth, we can take the tithi of birth in the *lunar month* of birth. This change of definition results in the same calculations in some charts and some years, but alters in some others. In the above 2008 TP chart of India, the two definitions result in two different dates for TP. After my study and experimentation, I convinced myself to go with the tradition of celebrating birthdays based on the lunar month and tithi rather than mixing up solar month with lunar day (tithi). In other words, I convinced myself to change the teaching of Sanjay ji in this matter. Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- sohamsa@ .com, "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote:>> Hare Rama Krishna> Dear All,> Does anyone want to give an astrological post on all the bombings in India.> WHo is doing it? Will it continue?> Best wishes> Lakshmi Get the world's best email - Xtra Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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