Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Sanjay, Sarada Mata: 1. My comment was more related to the 2nd cycle AK dasa. I found several people with strong AK to achieve some important things in AK dasa. However, probably the first AK dasa is also important because one grows from a small baby to someone with some abilities. 2. There is a separate PiK dasa and GK dasa. 3. There is a battle between Moon and Venus also, for AK. When two planets are busy fighting, Rahu takes an opportunity to sneak in. In this case, he comes in and he too has to battle it out with Jupiter. He is defeated and sent packing off. But his entry is due to the fight between Moon and Venus. When the fight is for a lower portfolio, loser is simply knocked out. In the case of fight for AK, loser is not knocked out. When the strongest person becomes the king, he makes the loser his minister. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa: 1. I am filling empty slots with sthira karaka as advised by Parasara. But Parasara advised that the higher portfolio becomes vacant when two planets are in the same degree and sthira karaka is used to judge that portfolio. So the winner of the battle, weak from the battle, has to settle for the lower portfolio. Yes, karaka dasa calculated by me as taught by Parasara is an ayur dasa as well phalita dasa. Calculations are as per Parasara, but judgment is mine. I found strong links to death of native and relatives in many charts and so decided to use it as an ayur dasa as well as a phalita dasa. Parasara is clear that we count from lagna to chara karakas in order. Taking (12-first cycle) for the second cycle is my extrapolation. Regarding PS: The relationship between AK and PK is the key. I see that the house occupied by PK from AK and the house occupied by PK from the graha arudha of AK (swarudha). In Sarada Mata's D-7, PK Jupiter is with Rahu in dwirdwadasa from AK Moon. Even though he is in a quadrant from AK-arudha, affliction by Rahu makes him weak. From AK, PK-arudha is in 11th (not a quadrant or a trine). All this is not positive. However, in her D-10, AK Moon and PK Jupiter are together in lagna, giving a Maharaja yoga mentioned by Parasara. PK is in a quadrant from AK-arudha, while PK-arudha is in a trine from AK. She had many children (followers) in society. In Thakur's D-7, PK Saturn is in 3rd from AK Rahu. This is not great. From AK-arudha, PK Saturn is in 12th. This is not good. From AK, again PK-arudha is in 12th. This deprives of children. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote: > > Dear Narasimha > > Just started reading ... > > Need some initial clarifications - > > Example 1: Sarada Mata > > 1. You wrote " AK dasa usually makes one successful and brings a lot of > activities. " : And as per calculations the first dasa is always of the chara > atmakarka which means that every child has a grand dasa at birth which > brings a lot of success and activities! Am I understanding your statement > correctly? > 2. Is the dasha of the Sun to be treated as PiK dasha or GK dasha? What > is the qualitative difference? > 3. So you are taking the planet with the higher degree/minutes/seconds > as the winner. So when the Jupiter and Rahu fought, Jupiter won and gets > relegated to the lower portfolio of PuK...Hmm why did you consider Rahu in > the first place? You should have taken just planets Sun to Saturn and there > would be no battles at all. Why did you take Rahu if you give preference to > 7 ck. Rahu was to come into the picture only if there is a battle. > > Example 2: Ramakrishna Paramahamsa > > 1. Moon/Mars battle, so Mars loses out and is kicked out of the scheme. > Mercury becomes Amk. Now why does the winner get the lower portfolio and not > the higher portfolio? Moon could have been taken as AmK and then the BK slot > falls vacant which is filled by sthira Karaka...Are you filling empty slots > with sthira karaka? > > > > So Karaka dasa as calculated y you is an Ayur dasha as well as Phalita > dasha. > > All dasha are always calculated from Lagna to the planet concerned. > Interesting. > > Best wishes > > Sanjay > > P.S. Any ways to explain the lack of progeny for Thakur and Sarada Mata > using the chara karaka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Dear Sanjay, Sarada Mata: 1. My comment was more related to the 2nd cycle AK dasa. I found several people with strong AK to achieve some important things in AK dasa. However, probably the first AK dasa is also important because one grows from a small baby to someone with some abilities. 2. There is a separate PiK dasa and GK dasa. 3. There is a battle between Moon and Venus also, for AK. When two planets are busy fighting, Rahu takes an opportunity to sneak in. In this case, he comes in and he too has to battle it out with Jupiter. He is defeated and sent packing off. But his entry is due to the fight between Moon and Venus. When the fight is for a lower portfolio, loser is simply knocked out. In the case of fight for AK, loser is not knocked out. When the strongest person becomes the king, he makes the loser his minister. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa: 1. I am filling empty slots with sthira karaka as advised by Parasara. But Parasara advised that the higher portfolio becomes vacant when two planets are in the same degree and sthira karaka is used to judge that portfolio. So the winner of the battle, weak from the battle, has to settle for the lower portfolio. Yes, karaka dasa calculated by me as taught by Parasara is an ayur dasa as well phalita dasa. Calculations are as per Parasara, but judgment is mine. I found strong links to death of native and relatives in many charts and so decided to use it as an ayur dasa as well as a phalita dasa. Parasara is clear that we count from lagna to chara karakas in order. Taking (12-first cycle) for the second cycle is my extrapolation. Regarding PS: The relationship between AK and PK is the key. I see that the house occupied by PK from AK and the house occupied by PK from the graha arudha of AK (swarudha). In Sarada Mata's D-7, PK Jupiter is with Rahu in dwirdwadasa from AK Moon. Even though he is in a quadrant from AK-arudha, affliction by Rahu makes him weak. From AK, PK-arudha is in 11th (not a quadrant or a trine). All this is not positive. However, in her D-10, AK Moon and PK Jupiter are together in lagna, giving a Maharaja yoga mentioned by Parasara. PK is in a quadrant from AK-arudha, while PK-arudha is in a trine from AK. She had many children (followers) in society. In Thakur's D-7, PK Saturn is in 3rd from AK Rahu. This is not great. From AK-arudha, PK Saturn is in 12th. This is not good. From AK, again PK-arudha is in 12th. This deprives of children. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote: > > Dear Narasimha > > Just started reading ... > > Need some initial clarifications - > > Example 1: Sarada Mata > > 1. You wrote " AK dasa usually makes one successful and brings a lot of > activities. " : And as per calculations the first dasa is always of the chara > atmakarka which means that every child has a grand dasa at birth which > brings a lot of success and activities! Am I understanding your statement > correctly? > 2. Is the dasha of the Sun to be treated as PiK dasha or GK dasha? What > is the qualitative difference? > 3. So you are taking the planet with the higher degree/minutes/seconds > as the winner. So when the Jupiter and Rahu fought, Jupiter won and gets > relegated to the lower portfolio of PuK...Hmm why did you consider Rahu in > the first place? You should have taken just planets Sun to Saturn and there > would be no battles at all. Why did you take Rahu if you give preference to > 7 ck. Rahu was to come into the picture only if there is a battle. > > Example 2: Ramakrishna Paramahamsa > > 1. Moon/Mars battle, so Mars loses out and is kicked out of the scheme. > Mercury becomes Amk. Now why does the winner get the lower portfolio and not > the higher portfolio? Moon could have been taken as AmK and then the BK slot > falls vacant which is filled by sthira Karaka...Are you filling empty slots > with sthira karaka? > > > > So Karaka dasa as calculated y you is an Ayur dasha as well as Phalita > dasha. > > All dasha are always calculated from Lagna to the planet concerned. > Interesting. > > Best wishes > > Sanjay > > P.S. Any ways to explain the lack of progeny for Thakur and Sarada Mata > using the chara karaka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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