[sjc-guru] Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent Interpretation

[Guest guest]

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

 

Dear Narasimhaji,

 

I had a thought about the first few stanzas,

 

Ch. 32. Karakatwas of the Grahas

 

athA.ahaM sampravaxyAmi grahAnAtmAdikArakAn.h |

 

saptaravyAdishanyantAn.h rAhvantAn.h vA.ashhTasaMkhyakAn.h || 1||

 

aMshaiH samaugnahau dvau ched.hrAhvantan.h chintayet.h tadA |

 

saptaiva kArakAnevaM kechidashhTau prachaxate || 2||

 

This can be translated literally as: " Now I am speaking about seven planets

from Sun to Saturn or eight planets upto Rahu,

acting as the significators of self etc. If two planets are equal by

degrees, then planets upto Rahu should be thought of.

Thus, only seven significators [in some] and eight in some are considered. "

 

 

 

This may also mean that

 

USE Rahu IF there is two planets in same degrees, " aMshaiH samaugnahau dvau

ched.hrAhvantan.h chintayet.h tadA | "

 

But this may not mean that NOT TO USE EIGHT Kaarakas when there is no

grahas in same Degress

 

 

Let me put it this way

 

SET 1 : USE Rahu when grahas in same degress 8 Kaaraka systems.

 

THE REMAINING SET : YOU can still use both 7 and 8 kaarakas.

 

I hope I am bringing out my thoughts accurately. The stanza never says * " FOR

THE REMAINING " * USE ONLY 7 KAARAKAS.

 

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2008/10/23 Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr

 

> Namaste friends,

>

> Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no pretensions that I

> got it correct. But this is based on an honest attempt to purge all

> preconceived notions from the mind and approach Parasara's verses with a

> fresh and unbiased mind.

>

> In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara karaka school

> got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara karakas should be used in

> some charts and 8 chara karakas in some charts and clearly described when to

> use what.

>

> I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading

> Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then

> experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, please

> use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, just leave it.

>

> I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my website. It

> describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering various cases. Apart

> from defining chara karaka calculation, this article also defines and uses a

> dasa called " Karaka dasa " that was taught by Parasara for the purpose of

> timing events using chara karakas. Please download the following PDF file if

> interested:

>

> http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf

>

> If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this link to

> those who may be interested.

>

> Krishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

 

Dear Narasimhaji,

 

I had a thought about the first few stanzas,

 

Ch. 32. Karakatwas of the Grahas

 

athA.ahaM sampravaxyAmi grahAnAtmAdikArakAn.h |

 

saptaravyAdishanyantAn.h rAhvantAn.h vA.ashhTasaMkhyakAn.h || 1||

 

aMshaiH samaugnahau dvau ched.hrAhvantan.h chintayet.h tadA |

 

saptaiva kArakAnevaM kechidashhTau prachaxate || 2||

 

This can be translated literally as: " Now I am speaking about seven planets

from Sun to Saturn or eight planets upto Rahu,

acting as the significators of self etc. If two planets are equal by

degrees, then planets upto Rahu should be thought of.

Thus, only seven significators [in some] and eight in some are considered. "

 

 

 

This may also mean that

 

USE Rahu IF there is two planets in same degrees, " aMshaiH samaugnahau dvau

ched.hrAhvantan.h chintayet.h tadA | "

 

But this may not mean that NOT TO USE EIGHT Kaarakas when there is no

grahas in same Degress

 

 

Let me put it this way

 

SET 1 : USE Rahu when grahas in same degress 8 Kaaraka systems.

 

THE REMAINING SET : YOU can still use both 7 and 8 kaarakas.

 

I hope I am bringing out my thoughts accurately. The stanza never says * " FOR

THE REMAINING " * USE ONLY 7 KAARAKAS.

 

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2008/10/23 Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr

 

> Namaste friends,

>

> Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no pretensions that I

> got it correct. But this is based on an honest attempt to purge all

> preconceived notions from the mind and approach Parasara's verses with a

> fresh and unbiased mind.

>

> In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara karaka school

> got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara karakas should be used in

> some charts and 8 chara karakas in some charts and clearly described when to

> use what.

>

> I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading

> Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then

> experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, please

> use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, just leave it.

>

> I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my website. It

> describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering various cases. Apart

> from defining chara karaka calculation, this article also defines and uses a

> dasa called " Karaka dasa " that was taught by Parasara for the purpose of

> timing events using chara karakas. Please download the following PDF file if

> interested:

>

> http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf

>

> If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this link to

> those who may be interested.

>

> Krishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sanjay!

 

>But this may not mean that NOT TO USE EIGHT Kaarakas when there

>is no grahas in same Degress

 

 

>Let me put it this way

 

>SET 1 : USE Rahu when grahas in same degress 8 Kaaraka systems.

 

>THE REMAINING SET : YOU can still use both 7 and 8 kaarakas.

 

 

When i thought of the Transalation given, it seems very clear that

Parashara Rishi means, include Rahu in case of tie between palnets.

 

I am sorry, but i could not reconcile with what you meant. how can

we use 7 or 8 without a clear basis if we don't consider above guide

line by rishi

 

Regards

 

Utpal

 

 

sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran "

<sanjaychettiar wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

>

> Dear Narasimhaji,

>

> I had a thought about the first few stanzas,

>

> Ch. 32. Karakatwas of the Grahas

>

> athA.ahaM sampravaxyAmi grahAnAtmAdikArakAn.h |

>

> saptaravyAdishanyantAn.h rAhvantAn.h vA.ashhTasaMkhyakAn.h || 1||

>

> aMshaiH samaugnahau dvau ched.hrAhvantan.h chintayet.h tadA |

>

> saptaiva kArakAnevaM kechidashhTau prachaxate || 2||

>

> This can be translated literally as: " Now I am speaking about

seven planets

> from Sun to Saturn or eight planets upto Rahu,

> acting as the significators of self etc. If two planets are equal

by

> degrees, then planets upto Rahu should be thought of.

> Thus, only seven significators [in some] and eight in some are

considered. "

>

>

>

> This may also mean that

>

> USE Rahu IF there is two planets in same degrees, " aMshaiH

samaugnahau dvau

> ched.hrAhvantan.h chintayet.h tadA | "

>

> But this may not mean that NOT TO USE EIGHT Kaarakas when there

is no

> grahas in same Degress

>

>

> Let me put it this way

>

> SET 1 : USE Rahu when grahas in same degress 8 Kaaraka systems.

>

> THE REMAINING SET : YOU can still use both 7 and 8 kaarakas.

>

> I hope I am bringing out my thoughts accurately. The stanza never

says * " FOR

> THE REMAINING " * USE ONLY 7 KAARAKAS.

>

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

>

>

>

>

2008/10/23 Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr

>

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no

pretensions that I

> > got it correct. But this is based on an honest attempt to purge

all

> > preconceived notions from the mind and approach Parasara's

verses with a

> > fresh and unbiased mind.

> >

> > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara

karaka school

> > got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara karakas

should be used in

> > some charts and 8 chara karakas in some charts and clearly

described when to

> > use what.

> >

> > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading

> > Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then

> > experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in

it, please

> > use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not,

just leave it.

> >

> > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my

website. It

> > describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering various

cases. Apart

> > from defining chara karaka calculation, this article also

defines and uses a

> > dasa called " Karaka dasa " that was taught by Parasara for the

purpose of

> > timing events using chara karakas. Please download the following

PDF file if

> > interested:

> >

> > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf

> >

> > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this

link to

> > those who may be interested.

> >

> > Krishnaarpanamastu,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------

> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself:

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> > Spirituality:

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------

> >

>