Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Om Datta Guru Dear Marg, Manunath & Others, I tend to follow Sanyasi Agnihotri Maharajs view on Navamsa usage though my personal view is that each division shows few few events adding to the whole picture and i guess modifying it also. Shri Vayate well known to KNRao uses the same method that of Sanyasi Agnihotri Maharaj of taking Navamsa alone. Anyways, my 2 cents on George Bush and Obama in reference to Manjunaths and urs post. George Bush Jr In George Bushs chart, Ketu is in female sign & is trine to Cancer a female sign along with Mer (twins) who is PK too and at the same time with Saturn in female sign who is lord of his Arudha of the 5H of children. The above no doubt can be interpretated as complicated way of looking. One simple way could be natural putrakaraka Jupiter is with Moon the deb lord of 5th sign in Virgo a co-part of the twin sign of Gemini, now if here we use the technique of astrologer Ashok Upadhaya known for his mastery of Laghu Parasari, he says Jupiter implements itself in the 12th from it. So this Jupiter, moon energy of female child implements itself in 12th from it where Mars the 5th lord of children is placed. Re Ketu and why twins or rather 2 children i would not comment on it now as it is someones so far unpublished technique and would wait for him to come out with. Coming to Angihotri Maharajs methods, if we see Navamsa, the 5th house sign is Gemini (twins) aspected from 11H by Mer (twins energy) no doubt he got twins i guess. Obama Manjunath raised a point here on his lagna, but for me its his Mars in the 8H which convinced me when i read that he carries Hanuman Idol (Mars) in his pocket that was reported in Times Mag, when i went deeper to find if he put that idol in his upper shirt pocket or trouser pocket, it was trouser which matches with MArs in 8H. That man is too smart than we outside of America think of is my opinion and there is a scandal & downfall waiting for him if it has not already happened i am sorry to say taking into account Mars Rahu. Just my 2 cents others can have their own opinion and i respect that. warm regards Sunil John , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Manjunath > Hasn't GW Bush got twin daughters and Ketu in fifth Scorpio, and Mars aspecting from second house. > best wishes M > - > M. Sharma > > Monday, October 13, 2008 9:56 PM > Re: John McCain Birth Certificate > > > Namaste John > If one follows the pdf -it appears that 6:25pm is his birth time from > BC. Hopefully this will remove all confusion. > > It is too late to predict anything IMHO. One's thinking now will > clearly be influenced by polls - give any lagna to Mccain now, > astrologers will predict he will lose. Obama's birth time is 7:24pm - > clear from his BC that is produced by his own campaign. I still see > that some people are predicting his victory based on libra lagna. My > fundamental question is how can somebody stick to libra lagan even > after knwowing that Obama's lagna is capricorn? I have more > confidence in Biden's chart that is destined for a higher position > that what he has now. Regarding Palin's chart - does anybody know her > BC? Is it posted somewhere? Please share. With Virgo lagna to her - I > feel that her husband has to come from a higher status family - I am > not sure if he is from a very well to do family or has some gifted > talent? > > Regarding Obama's chart - For a Libra lagna chart - I raised a > fundamental question - How can he have two daughters? With Ketu in > fifth and Mars aspecting 5th house - Daughters cannot be explained. > But nobody checked this or some ignored it. > > Now we know that it is capricorn lagna based on his birth chart and > that can explain daughters with an exalted moon in fifth showing > daughters. Just my 2 cents. > M. Sharma > > , " John " jr_esq@ wrote: > > > > Namaste M Sharma, > > > > According to the recent polls, it does not appear that McCain will > > win. Nonetheless, I got another lagna for McCain-- Kanya, based on > > birth data information from a western astrology website. > > > > As a Kanya ascendant, Mercury is exalted in the first house. This > > would account for McCain's earlier profession as a naval aviator. > > However, Mercury is debilitated in the navamsha. Therefore, he was > > shot down by the Vietnames from the skies of Hanoi. > > > > Also, his Mars is debilitated which would account for his fiery > > temperament and contributed to his torture while in prison. > > > > Given the chart, it is not likely that McCain will win the election. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > , " M. Sharma " <nakshatras@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Sandy and John. If this is correct then McCain's chart > shows > > > Kumbha lagna. He is in Me-Me-Ju. His seventh house from lagna and > > > eighth from Moon is activated in double transit of Saturn and > > Jupiter. > > > > > > Me is debilitated in navamsa and so is Jupiter. > > > Amatya karaka is Jupiter in tenth house. He is running chara dasa > of > > > Dhanus-Mesha (Sagi-Aries). Amk Jupiter is in 12th from Sagi and > is > > in > > > eighth from Aries. This shows weakness not strength. > > > > > > His tenth lord Mars in debilitated in Rasi (similar to Al Gore's). > > > Most likely Presidency will elude him. > > > M. Sharma > > > > > > , " Sandy Crowther " > > > <sandycrowther@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil and Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if you saw this already, and due to lack of time, > I > > have > > > > not been following list emails closely... (Please excuse if the > > > > following information has already been presented here.it may be > > the > > > > same document that you are referring to below...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding John McCain's birth time, please see the > following .pdf > > > > file that was shared on my list (Astrology Research on MSN) by > my > > > > manager, Ron Gaunt. It seems that Donald Lamb of The Panama > > Railroad > > > > Company, has produced a copy of the McCain's birth certificate > at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://files.meetup.com/786200/John%20McCain%20Birth%20Records% > > 20Release\ > > > > d.pdf > > > > > > > <http://files.meetup.com/786200/John%20McCain%20Birth%20Records% > > 20Releas\ > > > > ed.pdf> > > > > > > > > > > > > This shows that he was born at the Panama Railroad Company > > Hospital in > > > > Colon Panama at 6:25pm. This ties in with something that McCain > > said to > > > > his mother in the video, when she told him he was born around > > 11:00am. > > > > He said that he thought that he was born at the happy hour. > This > > is a > > > > term that was used by the Navy for the period when personnel > > gathered in > > > > the mess for drinks after the completion of the day's work. > While > > his > > > > mother told him this was not correct, it is now apparent that > > McCain had > > > > been informed of this fact in earlier days, and that his mother > > was not > > > > correct in her statements quoting either the 9am or the 11am > > times. > > > > Birth Certificate Data is as follows: > > > > > > > > McCain, John > > > > 29 Aug 1936 > > > > 6:25pm EST +5:00 > > > > Colon Hospital, Panama > > > > 9N21'56 " 79W54'06. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Sandy L. Crowther > > > > > > > > http://www.jupitersweb.com <http://www.jupitersweb.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sunil John > <suniljohn_2002@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have now a BC for McCain, thanks to Jack Fertig (on > > Conjunction > > > > list): > > > > > http://johnmccain. dominates. us/forum/ viewtopic. php?f=12 & > > t=145 > > > > > > > > > > Take " Certificate 1 " , which is much clearer; > > > > > > > > > > John Sydney McCain > > > > > 29 august 1936 > > > > > 18h25 > > > > > Colon Panama > > > > > > > > > > This was posted by Francois > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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