Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

October 15, 2008

Namaste friends,

I wrote on Parasara's drigdasa in Jyotish Digest magazine one year back. For the

benefit of those who do not get Jyotish Digest, I want to give some material on

drigdasa. Please note that this version of drigdasa is available in the latest

Jagannatha Hora.

Though I have written research articles on several topics in Jyotish, I honestly

consider the papers on drigdasa to be my best and most perfect contribution to

modern Jyotish knowledge.

Though I kept the copyright of the articles published in JD, I am not sure if

the magazine is ok with making those articles available to the public. So I will

share another article I wrote on drigdasa for another magazine. This magazine

asked me for an article and the magazine was suprisingly closed down before the

article was published. So the article I wrote was not published and I can share

it with all.

Please download the following zip file and unzip it to find a PDF file.

http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/drik_am.zip

If I get a chance, I will also make the two Jyotish Digest articles on drigdasa

available. They are more detailed and have more examples.

* * *

Parasara's teachings differ from the teachings of SJC in two main aspects:

1. The order of counting aspects is not based on whether the sign is odd-footed

or even-footed. It is based on whether the sign is movable or fixed or odd dual

or even dual. Order is zodiacal for fixed and odd dual signs and anti-zodiacal

for others. The order is such that we go to the nearest/similar sign that is

aspected. We go to Aquarius from Aries; we go to Cancer from Taurus; and, we go

to Virgo from Gemini.

2. The dasa lengths are based on sthira dasa years and not chara dasa years.

In both the issues, Parasara is quite unambiguous. There is no way SJC's

previous teachings can be reconciled with Parasara's teachings.

* * *

Jaimini's aphorism that was interpreted by Pt Sanjay Rath to support his

teachings can actually be reconciled to support Parasara's version. Please note

that Parasara uses simple unencrypted language, while Jaimini is highly cryptic.

It is too easy to misinterpret Jaimini.

Three modern Jaimini commentators (Iranganti Rangacharya, Prof PS Shastri and Pt

Sanjay Rath) gave three different interpretations of Jaimini's aphorism on

drigdasa and they are all different from what Parasara taught. I have shown how

Jaimini can be interpreted so that he is consistent with Parasara.

* * *

I used the drigdasa taught by Pt Sanjay Rath sparingly for a few years. I even

described it in my book 8 years back. About 4-5 years back, I discovered that

Parasara also taught drigdasa! I discovered that it also starts from the 9th

house and uses 9th, 10th and 11th houses as the bases and uses aspects. But the

order of reckoning aspects is different from what Pt Sanjay Rath taught. Also,

sthira dasa years are mentioned by Parasara, while Pt Sanjay Rath taught using

chara dasa years. These two changes in calculation make a big difference and

change everything.

I instinctively knew that Parasara's teaching had to be correct. However, when I

programmed it in my software and tried it on the charts of some spiritual

people, I honestly did not find any better results than what I got with Pt

Sanjay Rath's version. I knew I was missing some link and patiently waited for

the day I would discover it. But I had unshakable faith in Parasara and knew

that I got the calculation right and it was a matter of finding some key to

interpretation.

About a year later, it came in a flash after a meditation session. When Narayana

dasa starts from the 7th house, we consider the dasa sign to be a progression of

the 7th house and hence take the 7th house from dasa sign as the progressed

lagna. I thought why not apply the same idea?!!

Drigdasa starts from 9th house. So I thought of taking drigdasa sign as the

progression of the 9th house. If I take the 5th house from dasa sign, that

should be the progressed lagna. Once I got that idea, I retried it in several

charts. This time it made perfect sense and worked like a charm in every single

chart I tried. Now, it worked far better than Pt Sanjay Rath's version. I made

up my mind and conveyed it to Pt Sanjay Rath. A few years later, I decided to go

public.

The calculations are based on Parasara's unambiguous instructions. My only

contrinution is in the area of interpretation. The idea of taking the 5th house

from dasa sign as lagna is mine. The rest is straight from Parasara. I have no

doubt in my mind that the version taught by Pt Sanjay Rath, me and Robert Koch

in our books is incorrect and this is the correct one.

Best regards,

Narasimha

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Spirituality:

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October 18, 2008

Dear Narasimha,

Thank you for sharing your article.

I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at the chart by

taking the dasa sign as the lagna.

Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?

Best wishes

Kasim

http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

October 18, 2008

Dear Narasimha,

Thank you for sharing your article.

I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at the chart by

taking the dasa sign as the lagna.

Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?

Best wishes

Kasim

http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

October 18, 2008

Namaste,

As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as progressed 9th

house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as progressed lagna. I am using

the progressed lagna as a reference in judging the chart. I am doing that in

natal chart as well as dasa pravesha chart.

In my view, it applies to Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa etc also and

even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.

* * *

Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am IST, 72e49,

18n58).

Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house). Cp dasa

killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka Mars. Moreover, in the

Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains

7th and 8th lords. Thus, this dasa can kill.

Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house). Pi dasa killed

mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house from Pi has

malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars, Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can

kill.

If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a trine from AL.

In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord with Mars and Ketu. Thus,

this dasa can kill.

You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara dasa of Aq

made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th from AL. From Aq, 7th

house has a powerful combination. In the Aq dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house

contains a powerful raja yoga between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th

lords are in 10th and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.

Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a vital part of

interpreting dasas in my view.

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

sohamsa , Kasim Khan <kasim_ch wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> Thank you for sharing your article.

>

> I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at the chart by

taking the dasa sign as the lagna.

>

> Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?

>

> Best wishes

>

> Kasim

> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

October 18, 2008

Namaste,

As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as progressed 9th

house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as progressed lagna. I am using

the progressed lagna as a reference in judging the chart. I am doing that in

natal chart as well as dasa pravesha chart.

In my view, it applies to Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa etc also and

even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.

* * *

Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am IST, 72e49,

18n58).

Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house). Cp dasa

killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka Mars. Moreover, in the

Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains

7th and 8th lords. Thus, this dasa can kill.

Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house). Pi dasa killed

mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house from Pi has

malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars, Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can

kill.

If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a trine from AL.

In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord with Mars and Ketu. Thus,

this dasa can kill.

You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara dasa of Aq

made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th from AL. From Aq, 7th

house has a powerful combination. In the Aq dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house

contains a powerful raja yoga between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th

lords are in 10th and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.

Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a vital part of

interpreting dasas in my view.

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

sohamsa , Kasim Khan <kasim_ch wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> Thank you for sharing your article.

>

> I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at the chart by

taking the dasa sign as the lagna.

>

> Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?

>

> Best wishes

>

> Kasim

> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

November 7, 2008

Maja,

Jai Shri Ganesh,

We each have to look at things the way that is most natural to us and then to test our views in the context of giving useful interpretations and recommendations to natives who have asked us to look at our charts. The way I presented my experience with 6th house stands for me. Jyotish is a vast field. If my style doesn't work for you, it doesn't. The 6th house for me is the test house: can we maintain our purity in the midst of distractions from inside and out. When we maintain our purity we pass the test and can move on to be useful to others--partners, spouses.

What is really most appropriate for this egroup is to anchor our concepts in the context of specific charts. Please choose a chart and let's see how well we can make predictions and recommendations for the native.

Hare Rame Krishna,

Steve

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro wrote:

Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastroRE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:27 PM

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Stephen,

This innocent explanation of Kanya-Virginity- Purity you gave... reminds me of first few minutes of "Snatch", you know. If you missed to watch it, let me retail you what I am aiming at: "And the whole religion was wrongly based on translation of one single word which literally means "Maid" not "Virgin". Can you believe?"

Kanya literal translation is: MAID Forget relating it to Christianity, please. Girls are not virgin by default (or you grew up in Disneyland ...).

Surprise: Kanya is mooltrikona Rasi for Rahu. Still seems so Pure and Virgin?

OK use "Pure", but pleeeaaaseeee get rid of that "Virgin".

To get to that part "Being Pure" first comes part of dealing with Sadripu (6th bhava).

It takes a lot of effort (upachaya) to get rid of Sadripu... Still seems pure by default of correspondent Rasi interpretation (even in the way you like to imagine it)?

6th bhava is obstacles, enemies, our own weaknesses… Sadripu. Lot of distractions. ..

You know... there is also a little difference in interpretation of Bhava and Rasi... think about it.

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 > wrote:

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 6:29 AM

Don't understand: Narasimha's angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity- Purity and the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis. Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful 7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to be siddhis are merely the natural abilities of the Cosmic Self.--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Sanjay Rath

<sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:03 AM

Narasimha

Why should sixth house give siddhi’s? Reconsider please

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao06 November 2008 08:43sohamsa@ .com Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Namaste Rajarshi ji,

- Graha drishi can show a desire to get a guru, but rasi drishti is more important.

- Not sure. :-) Did not work that much on antardasas regarding this angle.

- No.

- I have no comments regarding AD, but say something on mahadasa. In a few examples I have seen, drigdasa with strong planets in the 6th house from the dasa lagna resulted in some siddhis. The 6th house is the 11th house of fulfilment from 8th house of sadhana and can show siddhis. However, remember that 6th house is also the house of obstacles. Siddhis or special abilities are actually obstacles in sadhana.

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

sohamsa@ .com, "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Narasmihaji> > Kindly guide me on my confusions regarding the Drig Dasa. Eagerly > waiting for you reply.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> >> > Dear Narasimhaji> > Â > > I have been trying to apply the drig dasa principles taught by you > from the zip file below. I wanted to ask, you have said that if the > MD has rasi dristi from the chara BK and the 9th lord from Jupiter, > then that MD can bring a guru. If the drisit is only graha dirsti, > what can that mean? No rasi dristi but graha drisit.> > Â > > And seconldy when judging ADs in an MD, can I apply the above > principle to exactly find out when a

person may get guidance? Like > rasi dristi of 9th lord from Jupiter and chara BK on AD rasi?> > Â > > And like in Narayan Dasa, if the AD rasi is in dusthana from the > MD, does that mean that AD is bad for spiritual practises? > > Â > > And if the AD has lots of planets in the 6th house, can it mean > sad ripus or fights with people regarding spiritual things in that > AD?> > Â > > -Regards> > Â Rajarshi> > > > > > > > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet> > > > --- On Sat, 18/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>> > Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa> > "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@>, vedic astrology, > sohamsa@ .com, > > Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 11:14 PM> > > > > > Namaste,> > Â > > As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as > progressed 9th house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as > progressed lagna. I am using the progressed lagna as a reference in > judging the chart. I am doing that in natal chart as well as dasa > pravesha chart.> > Â > > In my view, it applies to Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa > etcÂ also and even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.> > Â > > *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *>

> Â > > Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am > IST, 72e49, 18n58).> > Â > > Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house). > Cp dasa killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka > Mars. Moreover, in the Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu > afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains 7th and 8th lords. Thus, > this dasa can kill.> > Â > > Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house). > Pi dasa killed mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha > chakra, 7th house from Pi has malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars, > Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can kill.> > Â > > If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a > trine from AL. In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord > with Mars and Ketu. Thus,

this dasa can kill.> > Â > > You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara > dasa of Aq made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th > from AL. From Aq, 7th house has a powerful combination. In the Aq > dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house contains a powerful raja yoga > between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th lords are in 10th > and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.> > Â > > Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a > vital part of interpreting dasas in my view.> > Â > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> -----> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas

Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> ----- > > Â > > sohamsa@ .com, Kasim Khan <kasim_ch@> wrote:> > >> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha,> > >Â > > > Thank you for sharing your article.> > >Â > > > I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at > the chart by taking the dasa sign as the lagna.> > >Â > > > Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?> > >Â > > > Best wishes> > >Â > > > Kasim > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 115454061/ direct/01/

November 7, 2008

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Stephen,

Now you sound much better sticking to Purity.

Though:

We each have to look at things the way that is most natural to us and then to test our views ("Test our own views"? Oh... Are you sure this is how you should approach Jyotish? If "yes" I wish a lot of good luck to those whose chart you are analyzing. They are going to need it.) in the context of giving useful interpretations and recommendations to natives who have asked us to look at our charts.

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 wrote:

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 6:03 AM

Maja,

Jai Shri Ganesh,

We each have to look at things the way that is most natural to us and then to test our views in the context of giving useful interpretations and recommendations to natives who have asked us to look at our charts. The way I presented my experience with 6th house stands for me. Jyotish is a vast field. If my style doesn't work for you, it doesn't. The 6th house for me is the test house: can we maintain our purity in the midst of distractions from inside and out. When we maintain our purity we pass the test and can move on to be useful to others--partners, spouses.

What is really most appropriate for this egroup is to anchor our concepts in the context of specific charts. Please choose a chart and let's see how well we can make predictions and recommendations for the native.

Hare Rame Krishna,

Steve

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote:

Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ >RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 8:27 PM

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Stephen,

This innocent explanation of Kanya-Virginity- Purity you gave... reminds me of first few minutes of "Snatch", you know. If you missed to watch it, let me retail you what I am aiming at: "And the whole religion was wrongly based on translation of one single word which literally means "Maid" not "Virgin". Can you believe?"

Kanya literal translation is: MAID Forget relating it to Christianity, please. Girls are not virgin by default (or you grew up in Disneyland ...).

Surprise: Kanya is mooltrikona Rasi for Rahu. Still seems so Pure and Virgin?

OK use "Pure", but pleeeaaaseeee get rid of that "Virgin".

To get to that part "Being Pure" first comes part of dealing with Sadripu (6th bhava).

It takes a lot of effort (upachaya) to get rid of Sadripu... Still seems pure by default of correspondent Rasi interpretation (even in the way you like to imagine it)?

6th bhava is obstacles, enemies, our own weaknessesâ€¦ Sadripu. Lot of distractions. ..

You know... there is also a little difference in interpretation of Bhava and Rasi... think about it.

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 > wrote:

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 6:29 AM

Don't understand: Narasimha's angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity- Purity and the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis. Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful 7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to be siddhis are merely the natural abilities of the Cosmic Self.--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Sanjay Rath

<sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:03 AM

Narasimha

Why should sixth house give siddhiâ€™s? Reconsider please

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao06 November 2008 08:43sohamsa@ .com Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Namaste Rajarshi ji,

- Graha drishi can show a desire to get a guru, but rasi drishti is more important.

- Not sure. :-) Did not work that much on antardasas regarding this angle.

- No.

- I have no comments regarding AD, but say something on mahadasa. In a few examples I have seen, drigdasa with strong planets in the 6th house from the dasa lagna resulted in some siddhis. The 6th house is the 11th house of fulfilment from 8th house of sadhana and can show siddhis. However, remember that 6th house is also the house of obstacles. Siddhis or special abilities are actually obstacles in sadhana.

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

sohamsa@ .com, "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Narasmihaji> > Kindly guide me on my confusions regarding the Drig Dasa. Eagerly > waiting for you reply.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> >> > Dear Narasimhaji> > Ã‚ > > I have been trying to apply the drig dasa principles taught by you > from the zip file below. I wanted to ask, you have said that if the > MD has rasi dristi from the chara BK and the 9th lord from Jupiter, > then that MD can bring a guru. If the drisit is only graha dirsti, > what can that mean? No rasi dristi but graha drisit.> > Ã‚ > > And seconldy when judging ADs in an MD, can I apply the above > principle to exactly find out when a

person may get guidance? Like > rasi dristi of 9th lord from Jupiter and chara BK on AD rasi?> > Ã‚ > > And like in Narayan Dasa, if the AD rasi is in dusthana from the > MD, does that mean that AD is bad for spiritual practises? > > Ã‚ > > And if the AD has lots of planets in the 6th house, can it mean > sad ripus or fights with people regarding spiritual things in that > AD?> > Ã‚ > > -Regards> > Ã‚ Rajarshi> > > > > > > > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet> > > > --- On Sat, 18/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>> > Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa> > "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@>, vedic astrology, > sohamsa@ .com, > > Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 11:14 PM> > > > > > Namaste,> > Ã‚ > > As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as > progressed 9th house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as > progressed lagna. I am using the progressed lagna as a reference in > judging the chart. I am doing that in natal chart as well as dasa > pravesha chart.> > Ã‚ > > In my view, it applies to Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa > etcÃ‚ also and even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.> > Ã‚ > > *Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ *Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ *>

> Ã‚ > > Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am > IST, 72e49, 18n58).> > Ã‚ > > Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house). > Cp dasa killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka > Mars. Moreover, in the Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu > afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains 7th and 8th lords. Thus, > this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house). > Pi dasa killed mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha > chakra, 7th house from Pi has malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars, > Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a > trine from AL. In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord > with Mars and Ketu. Thus,

this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara > dasa of Aq made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th > from AL. From Aq, 7th house has a powerful combination. In the Aq > dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house contains a powerful raja yoga > between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th lords are in 10th > and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.> > Ã‚ > > Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a > vital part of interpreting dasas in my view.> > Ã‚ > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> -----> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas

Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> ----- > > Ã‚ > > sohamsa@ .com, Kasim Khan <kasim_ch@> wrote:> > >> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha,> > >Ã‚ > > > Thank you for sharing your article.> > >Ã‚ > > > I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at > the chart by taking the dasa sign as the lagna.> > >Ã‚ > > > Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?> > >Ã‚ > > > Best wishes> > >Ã‚ > > > Kasim > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 115454061/ direct/01/

November 7, 2008

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,Here is the chart of a person who recieved some million(s) dollar inheritance on his 19th birthday.Hughes, HowardNatal Chart December 24, 1905Time: 22:12:17Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 95 W 22' 00", 29 N 46' 00"Respectfully,MichalStephen K. Sufian <veda108sohamsa Sent: Saturday, 8 November, 2008 2:54:50 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Remember this thread started with Narasimha's post and Sanjay Guruji's response to it, then my asking Sanjay for clarification. From my point of view, the houses represent a progression from the first house, which is the desire of the soul, its overall competence to fulfill to it, and its style of progression. The 6th house shows the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions; the seventh, partnership, the reward for purity; the eighth, the resources and temptations one gets as a consequence of partnership; the ninth the ability to attune to dharma and the guru in a higher sense than one could acting just as an

individual; the 10th, action to fulfill dharma, the wishes of the Guru, the embodiment of the Higher Self; the eleventh, the routinization of the gains achieved through action and also the training of successors

(remember, the 11th also signifies elder brother); the 12th loss of the small self, gain of moksha, spending the gains signified by the 11th, and the ability to swim back and forth in the sea of unity of diversity, (two fish as symbols of Pisces, Meena Rashi), attending to details of a very narrow material kind while never losing one's establishment in Oneness.

All these significations I've laid out are relative to lagna but they can be laid out with respect to any bhava. For example, the 11th from the 12th is the 10th: this combines the nature of action with respect to the lagna with gain of moksha. Layers interpenetrate layers and these abstractions the Rishis present us with become concrete in the context of a specific chart. Choose a chart and let's see what we can do with it to translate potential into actual.

Hare Rama Krishna,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:06 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,It's wonderful that it makes sense to you. However something 'making sense' to someone is not enough. I have seen many times people convinced of something only to learn later that they were completely wrong (myself included). I can't tell you how many 'astrologers' I have met that use the tropical zodiac unaware even of the concept of precession, using asteriods/planetoid s/fantazoids to explain people's horoscopes. I will elaborate on my questions so that you can perhaps explain your reasoning. How do we differentiate between the house in question and the 11th house from it? ie. how is the 8th house of siddhi different from the 6th house of 'siddhi gains'? Does Lagna Lord in the 8th give interest in the occult, and if it does, how is it different to Lagna Lord in the 6th giving interest in 'gaining the occult' as you propose?I understand and

appreciate fluidity in a chart but what you are suggesting is seeing 5th house for spouse, then 3rd house for children, then Lagna for siblings, then 11th house for the self or 'gains of self' etc. Whatever do you mean?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 10:31:23 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Makes sense to me.

Jai Shri Ganesh,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 1:52 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Stephen,Does this mean that 6th house can give inheritance since it is 11th from 8th? Or that the 2nd house can give vehicles since it is 11th from 4th?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 3:29:03 AMRE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Don't understand: Narasimha's angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity- Purity and the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis. Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful 7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to be siddhis are merely the

natural abilities of the

Cosmic Self.--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:03 AM

Narasimha

Why should sixth house give siddhiâ€™s? Reconsider please

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao06 November 2008 08:43sohamsa@ .com Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Namaste Rajarshi ji,

- Graha drishi can show a desire to get a guru, but rasi drishti is more important.

- Not sure. :-) Did not work that much on antardasas regarding this angle.

- No.

- I have no comments regarding AD, but say something on mahadasa. In a few examples I have seen, drigdasa with strong planets in the 6th house from the dasa lagna resulted in some siddhis. The 6th house is the 11th house of fulfilment from 8th house of sadhana and can show siddhis. However, remember that 6th house is also the house of obstacles. Siddhis or special abilities are actually obstacles in sadhana.

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

sohamsa@ .com, "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Narasmihaji> > Kindly guide me on my confusions regarding the Drig Dasa. Eagerly > waiting for you reply.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> >> > Dear Narasimhaji> > Ã‚ > > I have been trying to apply the drig dasa principles taught by you > from the zip file below. I wanted to ask, you have said that if the > MD has rasi dristi from the chara BK and the 9th lord from Jupiter, > then that MD can bring a guru. If the drisit is only graha dirsti, > what can that mean? No rasi dristi but graha drisit.> > Ã‚ > > And seconldy when judging ADs in an MD, can I apply the above

> principle to exactly find out when a

person may get guidance? Like > rasi dristi of 9th lord from Jupiter and chara BK on AD rasi?> > Ã‚ > > And like in Narayan Dasa, if the AD rasi is in dusthana from the > MD, does that mean that AD is bad for spiritual practises? > > Ã‚ > > And if the AD has lots of planets in the 6th house, can it mean > sad ripus or fights with people regarding spiritual things in that > AD?> > Ã‚ > > -Regards> > Ã‚ Rajarshi> > > > > > > > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet> > > > --- On Sat, 18/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>> > Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa> > "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@>, vedic astrology, > sohamsa@ .com, > > Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 11:14 PM> > > > > > Namaste,> > Ã‚ > > As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as > progressed 9th house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as > progressed lagna. I am using the progressed lagna as a reference in > judging the chart. I am doing that in natal chart as well as dasa > pravesha chart.> > Ã‚ > > In my view, it applies to

Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa > etcÃ‚ also and even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.> > Ã‚ > > *Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ *Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ *>

> Ã‚ > > Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am > IST, 72e49, 18n58).> > Ã‚ > > Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house). > Cp dasa killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka > Mars. Moreover, in the Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu > afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains 7th and 8th lords. Thus, > this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house). > Pi dasa killed mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha > chakra, 7th house from Pi has malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars, > Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a > trine from AL. In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord > with Mars and Ketu. Thus,

this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara > dasa of Aq made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th > from AL. From Aq, 7th house has a powerful combination. In the Aq > dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house contains a powerful raja yoga > between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th lords are in 10th > and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.> > Ã‚ > > Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a > vital part of interpreting dasas in my view.> > Ã‚ > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> -----> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas

Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> ----- > > Ã‚ > > sohamsa@ .com, Kasim Khan

<kasim_ch@> wrote:> > >> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha,> > >Ã‚ > > > Thank you for sharing your article.> > >Ã‚ > > > I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at > the chart by taking the dasa sign as the lagna.> > >Ã‚ > > > Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?> > >Ã‚ > > > Best wishes> > >Ã‚ > > > Kasim > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 115454061/ direct/01/

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November 9, 2008

Dear Stephen

According to all texts of Jyotish I have read so far, the sixth

house is a destroyer of mantras ...and consequently siddhi’s. That is why I did

not understand what he was trying to say. Fifth house is mantra bhava and 6th

house is the destroyer of mantra.

Logic is to be applied after we agree on basics of the standard

classic works.

Best wishes

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Stephen K. Sufian

06 November 2008 19:59

sohamsa

RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Don't understand: Narasimha's

angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house

obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.

Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it

is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity-Purity and the ability to maintain purity in

the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis.

Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful

7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher

contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to

be siddhis are merely the natural abilities of the Cosmic Self.

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath

wrote:

Sanjay Rath

<sjrath

RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

sohamsa

Thursday, November 6, 2008, 4:03 AM

Narasimha

Why should sixth house give siddhi’s?

Reconsider please

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@

. com] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

06 November 2008 08:43

sohamsa@ .com

Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Namaste Rajarshi ji,

- Graha drishi can show a desire to get a guru, but

rasi drishti is more important.

- Not sure. :-) Did not work that much on antardasas

regarding this angle.

- No.

- I have no comments regarding AD, but say something

on mahadasa. In a few examples I have seen, drigdasa with strong planets in

the 6th house from the dasa lagna resulted in some siddhis. The 6th house is

the 11th house of fulfilment from 8th house of sadhana and can show siddhis.

However, remember that 6th house is also the house of obstacles. Siddhis or

special abilities are actually obstacles in sadhana.

Best regards,

Narasimha

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

sohamsa@ .com, " rajarshi14 "

<rajarshi14@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Narasmihaji

>

> Kindly guide me on my confusions regarding the Drig Dasa. Eagerly

> waiting for you reply.

>

> -Regards

> Rajarshi

> >

> > Dear Narasimhaji

> > Â

> > I have been trying to apply the drig dasa principles taught by you

> from the zip file below. I wanted to ask, you have said that if the

> MD has rasi dristi from the chara BK and the 9th lord from Jupiter,

> then that MD can bring a guru. If the drisit is only graha dirsti,

> what can that mean? No rasi dristi but graha drisit.

> > Â

> > And seconldy when judging ADs in an MD, can I apply the above

> principle to exactly find out when a person may get guidance? Like

> rasi dristi of 9th lord from Jupiter and chara BK on AD rasi?

> > Â

> > And like in Narayan Dasa, if the AD rasi is in dusthana from the

> MD, does that mean that AD is bad for spiritual practises?

> > Â

> > And if the AD has lots of planets in the 6th house, can it mean

> sad ripus or fights with people regarding spiritual things in that

> AD?

> > Â

> > -Regards

> > Â Rajarshi

> >

> > " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet

> >

> > --- On Sat, 18/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:

> >

> > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>

> > Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

> > " Kasim Khan " <kasim_ch@>, vedic astrology@

. com,

> sohamsa@

..com, @

. com

> > Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 11:14 PM

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Â

> > As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as

> progressed 9th house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as

> progressed lagna. I am using the progressed lagna as a reference in

> judging the chart. I am doing that in natal chart as well as dasa

> pravesha chart.

> > Â

> > In my view, it applies to Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa

> etcÂ also and even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.

> > Â

> > *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *

> > Â

> > Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am

> IST, 72e49, 18n58).

> > Â

> > Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house).

> Cp dasa killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka

> Mars. Moreover, in the Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu

> afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains 7th and 8th lords. Thus,

> this dasa can kill.

> > Â

> > Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house).

> Pi dasa killed mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha

> chakra, 7th house from Pi has malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars,

> Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can kill.

> > Â

> > If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a

> trine from AL. In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord

> with Mars and Ketu. Thus, this dasa can kill.

> > Â

> > You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara

> dasa of Aq made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th

> from AL. From Aq, 7th house has a powerful combination. In the Aq

> dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house contains a powerful raja yoga

> between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th lords are in 10th

> and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.

> > Â

> > Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a

> vital part of interpreting dasas in my view.

> > Â

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

> -----

> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/

> tarpana

> > Spirituality: http://groups.

/ group/vedic- wisdom

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

> -----

> > Â

> > sohamsa@

..com, Kasim Khan <kasim_ch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha,

> > >Â

> > > Thank you for sharing your article.

> > >Â

> > > I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look

at

> the chart by taking the dasa sign as the lagna.

> > >Â

> > > Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?

> > >Â

> > > Best wishes

> > >Â

> > > Kasim

> > > http://clk.atdmt.

com/GBL/go/ 115454061/ direct/01/

November 9, 2008

Thanks, Sanjay, that clears up why you were questioning Narasimha. I understand the point of view here.To see whether this point of view from standard works (which I assume means cognitions of Rishis) prevails or whether Narasimha's original view (and my support of it) does it would be nice to look at some charts. Is there someone who is generally credited with having the siddhis, and whose blessing of them was given at a roughly known age/year? If so, we could look at his chart from the standpoint of several Dasha systems to see whether 6th house was involved, or not, at the time of siddhi acquistition.And as a comparison, perhaps someone who has a similar chart but who did not get the siddhis fulfilled during a Dasha when 6th Bhava was involved?Patanjali, would be nice, since he's the author of the Yoga Sutras. Somewhat complicated by the fact that the Shankaracharya of Kanchi relates the traditional story that Patanjali was an incarnation of AdiSesha but since we commonly analyze Ram's chart and Krishna's in standard terms, it should be doable.Jai Shri Ganesh,Steve--- On Sun, 11/9/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:Sanjay Rath <sjrathRE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:39 AM

Dear Stephen According to all texts of Jyotish I have read so far, the sixth

house is a destroyer of mantras ...and consequently siddhi’s. That is why I did

not understand what he was trying to say. Fifth house is mantra bhava and 6th

house is the destroyer of mantra. Logic is to be applied after we agree on basics of the standard

classic works. Best wishes Sanjay Rath

sohamsa@ .com

[sohamsa] On Behalf Of Stephen K. Sufian

06 November 2008 19:59

sohamsa@ .com

RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Don't understand: Narasimha's

angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house

obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.

Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it

is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity- Purity and the ability to maintain purity in

the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis.

Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful

7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher

contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to

be siddhis are merely the natural abilities of the Cosmic Self.

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

wrote: Sanjay Rath

RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

sohamsa@ .com

Thursday, November 6, 2008, 4:03 AM

Narasimha Why should sixth house give siddhi’s?

Reconsider please Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@

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06 November 2008 08:43

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Namaste Rajarshi ji,

- Graha drishi can show a desire to get a guru, but

rasi drishti is more important.

- Not sure. :-) Did not work that much on antardasas

regarding this angle.

- No.

- I have no comments regarding AD, but say something

on mahadasa. In a few examples I have seen, drigdasa with strong planets in

the 6th house from the dasa lagna resulted in some siddhis. The 6th house is

the 11th house of fulfilment from 8th house of sadhana and can show siddhis.

However, remember that 6th house is also the house of obstacles. Siddhis or

special abilities are actually obstacles in sadhana.

Best regards,

Narasimha

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sohamsa@ .com, "rajarshi14"

<rajarshi14@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Narasmihaji

>

> Kindly guide me on my confusions regarding the Drig Dasa. Eagerly

> waiting for you reply.

>

> -Regards

> Rajarshi

> >

> > Dear Narasimhaji

> > Â

> > I have been trying to apply the drig dasa principles taught by you

> from the zip file below. I wanted to ask, you have said that if the

> MD has rasi dristi from the chara BK and the 9th lord from Jupiter,

> then that MD can bring a guru. If the drisit is only graha dirsti,

> what can that mean? No rasi dristi but graha drisit.

> > Â

> > And seconldy when judging ADs in an MD, can I apply the above

> principle to exactly find out when a person may get guidance? Like

> rasi dristi of 9th lord from Jupiter and chara BK on AD rasi?

> > Â

> > And like in Narayan Dasa, if the AD rasi is in dusthana from the

> MD, does that mean that AD is bad for spiritual practises?

> > Â

> > And if the AD has lots of planets in the 6th house, can it mean

> sad ripus or fights with people regarding spiritual things in that

> AD?

> > Â

> > -Regards

> > Â Rajarshi

> >

> > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

> >

> > --- On Sat, 18/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:

> >

> > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>

> > Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

> > "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@>, vedic astrology@

. com,

> sohamsa@

..com, @

. com

> > Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 11:14 PM

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Â

> > As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as

> progressed 9th house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as

> progressed lagna. I am using the progressed lagna as a reference in

> judging the chart. I am doing that in natal chart as well as dasa

> pravesha chart.

> > Â

> > In my view, it applies to Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa

> etcÂ also and even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.

> > Â

> > *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *

> > Â

> > Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am

> IST, 72e49, 18n58).

> > Â

> > Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house).

> Cp dasa killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka

> Mars. Moreover, in the Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu

> afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains 7th and 8th lords. Thus,

> this dasa can kill.

> > Â

> > Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house).

> Pi dasa killed mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha

> chakra, 7th house from Pi has malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars,

> Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can kill.

> > Â

> > If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a

> trine from AL. In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord

> with Mars and Ketu. Thus, this dasa can kill.

> > Â

> > You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara

> dasa of Aq made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th

> from AL. From Aq, 7th house has a powerful combination. In the Aq

> dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house contains a powerful raja yoga

> between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th lords are in 10th

> and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.

> > Â

> > Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a

> vital part of interpreting dasas in my view.

> > Â

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

> -----

> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/

> tarpana

> > Spirituality: http://groups.

/ group/vedic- wisdom

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

> -----

> > Â

> > sohamsa@

..com, Kasim Khan <kasim_ch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha,

> > >Â

> > > Thank you for sharing your article.

> > >Â

> > > I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look

at

> the chart by taking the dasa sign as the lagna.

> > >Â

> > > Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?

> > >Â

> > > Best wishes

> > >Â

> > > Kasim

> > > http://clk.atdmt.

com/GBL/go/ 115454061/ direct/01/

November 9, 2008

Saturn, Lord of the 6th, aspects the lagna and Mercury, lord of the second (wealth) and 11th, gains. On his 19th birthday, Hughes was running Vimshottari Shukra MahaDasha and Rahu Antardasha. Shukra is conjoined Mercury, Lord of the 11th, and is aspected by Saturn, Lord of the 6th. Rahu is co-lord of the 7th, occupied by Saturn, co-lord of the 7th and sole lord of the 6th.So the 6th house can be involved in gains of wealth. The 11th house most properly will give gains relative to the lagna. The lagna is Singh with its lord, the Sun, in Dhanu in the 5th. We would expect the dasha of the 11th house

to give gains of power, integration, mantras, progeny/concrete productivity, romance, speculation and other karakatwas of Singh. I don't know enough about Hughes' life to know whether these happened during Mercury Mahadasha or Antardasha but many of these karakatwa I believe did occur during his life.I'll get a biography of Hughes and see how my understanding of how houses work together--including seeing how the seeming positives or seeming negatives surface--fits the facts of Hughes' chart and the unfolding under different dasha conditions. If you have already analyzed Howard's chart in depth and have a source of biographical information you trust, please share both with me (and Sohamsa). It would be helpful for me-and I hope, us-- to enjoy the juxtaposition of your interpretations and facts with my unfolding understanding. Hare Rama KrishnaSteve--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:Michal Dziwulski <nearmichalRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 4:05 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,Here is the chart of a person who recieved some million(s) dollar inheritance on his 19th birthday.Hughes, HowardNatal Chart December 24, 1905Time: 22:12:17Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 95 W 22' 00", 29 N 46' 00"Respectfully,MichalStephen K. Sufian <veda108 (AT) (DOT)

com>sohamsa@ .comSaturday, 8 November, 2008 2:54:50 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Remember this thread started with Narasimha's post and Sanjay Guruji's response to it, then my asking Sanjay for clarification. From my point of view, the houses represent a progression from the first house, which is the desire of the soul, its overall competence to fulfill to it, and its style of progression. The 6th house shows the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions; the seventh, partnership, the reward for purity; the eighth, the resources and temptations one gets as a consequence of partnership; the ninth the ability to attune to dharma and the guru in a higher sense than one could acting just as an

individual; the 10th, action to fulfill dharma, the wishes of the Guru, the embodiment of the Higher Self; the eleventh, the routinization of the gains achieved through action and also the training of successors

(remember, the 11th also signifies elder brother); the 12th loss of the small self, gain of moksha, spending the gains signified by the 11th, and the ability to swim back and forth in the sea of unity of diversity, (two fish as symbols of Pisces, Meena Rashi), attending to details of a very narrow material kind while never losing one's establishment in Oneness.

All these significations I've laid out are relative to lagna but they can be laid out with respect to any bhava. For example, the 11th from the 12th is the 10th: this combines the nature of action with respect to the lagna with gain of moksha. Layers interpenetrate layers and these abstractions the Rishis present us with become concrete in the context of a specific chart. Choose a chart and let's see what we can do with it to translate potential into actual.

Hare Rama Krishna,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:06 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,It's wonderful that it makes sense to you. However something 'making sense' to someone is not enough. I have seen many times people convinced of something only to learn later that they were completely wrong (myself included). I can't tell you how many 'astrologers' I have met that use the tropical zodiac unaware even of the concept of precession, using asteriods/planetoid s/fantazoids to explain people's horoscopes. I will elaborate on my questions so that you can perhaps explain your reasoning. How do we differentiate between the house in question and the 11th house from it? ie. how is the 8th house of siddhi different from the 6th house of 'siddhi gains'? Does Lagna Lord in the 8th give interest in the occult, and if it does, how is it different to Lagna Lord in the 6th giving interest in 'gaining the occult' as you propose?I understand and

appreciate fluidity in a chart but what you are suggesting is seeing 5th house for spouse, then 3rd house for children, then Lagna for siblings, then 11th house for the self or 'gains of self' etc. Whatever do you mean?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 10:31:23 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Makes sense to me.

Jai Shri Ganesh,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 1:52 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Stephen,Does this mean that 6th house can give inheritance since it is 11th from 8th? Or that the 2nd house can give vehicles since it is 11th from 4th?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 3:29:03 AMRE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Don't understand: Narasimha's angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity- Purity and the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis. Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful 7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to be siddhis are merely the

natural abilities of the

Cosmic Self.--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:03 AM

Narasimha

Why should sixth house give siddhi’s? Reconsider please

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao06 November 2008 08:43sohamsa@ .com Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Namaste Rajarshi ji,

- Graha drishi can show a desire to get a guru, but rasi drishti is more important.

- Not sure. :-) Did not work that much on antardasas regarding this angle.

- No.

- I have no comments regarding AD, but say something on mahadasa. In a few examples I have seen, drigdasa with strong planets in the 6th house from the dasa lagna resulted in some siddhis. The 6th house is the 11th house of fulfilment from 8th house of sadhana and can show siddhis. However, remember that 6th house is also the house of obstacles. Siddhis or special abilities are actually obstacles in sadhana.

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

sohamsa@ .com, "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Narasmihaji> > Kindly guide me on my confusions regarding the Drig Dasa. Eagerly > waiting for you reply.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> >> > Dear Narasimhaji> > Â > > I have been trying to apply the drig dasa principles taught by you > from the zip file below. I wanted to ask, you have said that if the > MD has rasi dristi from the chara BK and the 9th lord from Jupiter, > then that MD can bring a guru. If the drisit is only graha dirsti, > what can that mean? No rasi dristi but graha drisit.> > Â > > And seconldy when judging ADs in an MD, can I apply the above

> principle to exactly find out when a

person may get guidance? Like > rasi dristi of 9th lord from Jupiter and chara BK on AD rasi?> > Â > > And like in Narayan Dasa, if the AD rasi is in dusthana from the > MD, does that mean that AD is bad for spiritual practises? > > Â > > And if the AD has lots of planets in the 6th house, can it mean > sad ripus or fights with people regarding spiritual things in that > AD?> > Â > > -Regards> > Â Rajarshi> > > > > > > > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet> > > > --- On Sat, 18/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>> > Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa> > "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@>, vedic astrology, > sohamsa@ .com, > > Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 11:14 PM> > > > > > Namaste,> > Â > > As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as > progressed 9th house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as > progressed lagna. I am using the progressed lagna as a reference in > judging the chart. I am doing that in natal chart as well as dasa > pravesha chart.> > Â > > In my view, it applies to

Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa > etcÂ also and even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.> > Â > > *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *>

> Â > > Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am > IST, 72e49, 18n58).> > Â > > Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house). > Cp dasa killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka > Mars. Moreover, in the Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu > afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains 7th and 8th lords. Thus, > this dasa can kill.> > Â > > Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house). > Pi dasa killed mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha > chakra, 7th house from Pi has malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars, > Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can kill.> > Â > > If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a > trine from AL. In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord > with Mars and Ketu. Thus,

this dasa can kill.> > Â > > You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara > dasa of Aq made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th > from AL. From Aq, 7th house has a powerful combination. In the Aq > dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house contains a powerful raja yoga > between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th lords are in 10th > and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.> > Â > > Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a > vital part of interpreting dasas in my view.> > Â > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> -----> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas

Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> ----- > > Â > > sohamsa@ .com, Kasim Khan

<kasim_ch@> wrote:> > >> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha,> > >Â > > > Thank you for sharing your article.> > >Â > > > I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at > the chart by taking the dasa sign as the lagna.> > >Â > > > Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?> > >Â > > > Best wishes> > >Â > > > Kasim > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 115454061/ direct/01/

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November 10, 2008

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,Parasara has advised to look at Sri Lagna in the chart to determine wealth. In the chart of Howard Hughes Sri Lagna is in Taurus conjoined Jupiter who is 8th lord (inheritance) and dispositer of Surya. Lord of Sri Lagna is Shukra who is exalted in Navamsa and conjoined debilitated Moon in Rasi. Ucca and neecha grahas indicate vast measures of wealth as per Jaimini's sutra 2.4.28. Venus and Moon conjoined shows various luxuries. Also look at 2nd and 8th houses for wealth from Lagna and Arudha Lagna. In this chart all the benefics are on this axis from AL.Sudasa is used to time events related to Sri lagna and works very well in this chart. With the logic you use with Vimshottari dasa you will find it

very difficult to accurately predict what is happening in a blind chart.Warm regards,MichalStephen K. Sufian <veda108sohamsa Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2008 10:39:04 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Saturn, Lord of the 6th, aspects the lagna and Mercury, lord of the second (wealth) and 11th, gains. On his 19th birthday, Hughes was running Vimshottari Shukra MahaDasha and Rahu Antardasha. Shukra is conjoined Mercury, Lord of the 11th, and is aspected by Saturn, Lord of the 6th. Rahu is co-lord of the 7th, occupied by Saturn, co-lord of the 7th and sole lord of the 6th.So the 6th house can be involved in gains of wealth. The 11th house most properly will give gains relative to the lagna. The lagna is Singh with its lord, the Sun, in Dhanu in the 5th. We would expect the dasha of the 11th house

to give gains of power, integration, mantras, progeny/concrete productivity, romance, speculation and other karakatwas of Singh. I don't know enough about Hughes' life to know whether these happened during Mercury Mahadasha or Antardasha but many of these karakatwa I believe did occur during his life.I'll get a biography of Hughes and see how my understanding of how houses work together--including seeing how the seeming positives or seeming negatives surface--fits the facts of Hughes' chart and the unfolding under different dasha conditions. If you have already analyzed Howard's chart in depth and have a source of biographical information you trust, please share both with me (and Sohamsa). It would be helpful for me-and I hope, us-- to enjoy the juxtaposition of your interpretations and facts with my unfolding understanding. Hare Rama KrishnaSteve--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comFriday, November 7, 2008, 4:05 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,Here is the chart of a person who recieved some million(s) dollar inheritance on his 19th birthday.Hughes, HowardNatal Chart December 24, 1905Time: 22:12:17Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 95 W 22' 00", 29 N 46' 00"Respectfully,MichalStephen K. Sufian <veda108 (AT) (DOT)

com>sohamsa@ .comSaturday, 8 November, 2008 2:54:50 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Remember this thread started with Narasimha's post and Sanjay Guruji's response to it, then my asking Sanjay for clarification. From my point of view, the houses represent a progression from the first house, which is the desire of the soul, its overall competence to fulfill to it, and its style of progression. The 6th house shows the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions; the seventh, partnership, the reward for purity; the eighth, the resources and temptations one gets as a consequence of partnership; the ninth the ability to attune to dharma and the guru in a higher sense than one could acting just as an

individual; the 10th, action to fulfill dharma, the wishes of the Guru, the embodiment of the Higher Self; the eleventh, the routinization of the gains achieved through action and also the training of successors

(remember, the 11th also signifies elder brother); the 12th loss of the small self, gain of moksha, spending the gains signified by the 11th, and the ability to swim back and forth in the sea of unity of diversity, (two fish as symbols of Pisces, Meena Rashi), attending to details of a very narrow material kind while never losing one's establishment in Oneness.

All these significations I've laid out are relative to lagna but they can be laid out with respect to any bhava. For example, the 11th from the 12th is the 10th: this combines the nature of action with respect to the lagna with gain of moksha. Layers interpenetrate layers and these abstractions the Rishis present us with become concrete in the context of a specific chart. Choose a chart and let's see what we can do with it to translate potential into actual.

Hare Rama Krishna,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:06 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,It's wonderful that it makes sense to you. However something 'making sense' to someone is not enough. I have seen many times people convinced of something only to learn later that they were completely wrong (myself included). I can't tell you how many 'astrologers' I have met that use the tropical zodiac unaware even of the concept of precession, using asteriods/planetoid s/fantazoids to explain people's horoscopes. I will elaborate on my questions so that you can perhaps explain your reasoning. How do we differentiate between the house in question and the 11th house from it? ie. how is the 8th house of siddhi different from the 6th house of 'siddhi gains'? Does Lagna Lord in the 8th give interest in the occult, and if it does, how is it different to Lagna Lord in the 6th giving interest in 'gaining the occult' as you propose?I understand and

appreciate fluidity in a chart but what you are suggesting is seeing 5th house for spouse, then 3rd house for children, then Lagna for siblings, then 11th house for the self or 'gains of self' etc. Whatever do you mean?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 10:31:23 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Makes sense to me.

Jai Shri Ganesh,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 1:52 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Stephen,Does this mean that 6th house can give inheritance since it is 11th from 8th? Or that the 2nd house can give vehicles since it is 11th from 4th?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 3:29:03 AMRE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Don't understand: Narasimha's angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity- Purity and the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis. Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful 7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to be siddhis are merely the

natural abilities of the

Cosmic Self.--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:03 AM

Narasimha

Why should sixth house give siddhiâ€™s? Reconsider please

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao06 November 2008 08:43sohamsa@ .com Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Namaste Rajarshi ji,

- Graha drishi can show a desire to get a guru, but rasi drishti is more important.

- Not sure. :-) Did not work that much on antardasas regarding this angle.

- No.

- I have no comments regarding AD, but say something on mahadasa. In a few examples I have seen, drigdasa with strong planets in the 6th house from the dasa lagna resulted in some siddhis. The 6th house is the 11th house of fulfilment from 8th house of sadhana and can show siddhis. However, remember that 6th house is also the house of obstacles. Siddhis or special abilities are actually obstacles in sadhana.

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

sohamsa@ .com, "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Narasmihaji> > Kindly guide me on my confusions regarding the Drig Dasa. Eagerly > waiting for you reply.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> >> > Dear Narasimhaji> > Ã‚ > > I have been trying to apply the drig dasa principles taught by you > from the zip file below. I wanted to ask, you have said that if the > MD has rasi dristi from the chara BK and the 9th lord from Jupiter, > then that MD can bring a guru. If the drisit is only graha dirsti, > what can that mean? No rasi dristi but graha drisit.> > Ã‚ > > And seconldy when judging ADs in an MD, can I apply the above

> principle to exactly find out when a

person may get guidance? Like > rasi dristi of 9th lord from Jupiter and chara BK on AD rasi?> > Ã‚ > > And like in Narayan Dasa, if the AD rasi is in dusthana from the > MD, does that mean that AD is bad for spiritual practises? > > Ã‚ > > And if the AD has lots of planets in the 6th house, can it mean > sad ripus or fights with people regarding spiritual things in that > AD?> > Ã‚ > > -Regards> > Ã‚ Rajarshi> > > > > > > > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet> > > > --- On Sat, 18/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>> > Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa> > "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@>, vedic astrology, > sohamsa@ .com, > > Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 11:14 PM> > > > > > Namaste,> > Ã‚ > > As far as drigdasa is concerned, I am taking the dasa sign as > progressed 9th house and taking the 5th house from dasa sign as > progressed lagna. I am using the progressed lagna as a reference in > judging the chart. I am doing that in natal chart as well as dasa > pravesha chart.> > Ã‚ > > In my view, it applies to

Narayana dasa, Chara dasa, Trikona dasa > etcÃ‚ also and even to ayur dasas like Shoola dasa.> > Ã‚ > > *Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ *Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ *>

> Ã‚ > > Take Rajiv Gandhi's chart for example (1944 August 20, 7:12 am > IST, 72e49, 18n58).> > Ã‚ > > Take his bhratri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 3rd house). > Cp dasa killed brother. Cp is a trine from sthira bhratri karaka > Mars. Moreover, in the Cp dasa pravesha chakra, Mars and Rahu > afflict Cp and 8th house from Cp contains 7th and 8th lords. Thus, > this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > Take his matri shoola dasa (shoola dasa started from 4th house). > Pi dasa killed mother. Pi contains A4. In the Pi dasa pravesha > chakra, 7th house from Pi has malefic Saturn and 8th house has Mars, > Gulika and Maandi. Thys, this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > If you take the regular shoola dasa, Cp dasa killed him. Cp is a > trine from AL. In Cp dasa pravesha chakra, 8th house has 8th lord > with Mars and Ketu. Thus,

this dasa can kill.> > Ã‚ > > You can use Parasara's chara dasa as a simple phalita dasa. Chara > dasa of Aq made him India's prime minister. Aq contains A9 and 10th > from AL. From Aq, 7th house has a powerful combination. In the Aq > dasa pravesha chakra, 7th house contains a powerful raja yoga > between 4th, 5th, 7th and 9th lords, while 10th lords are in 10th > and 11th lord is in 11th. This dasa brought a raja yoga.> > Ã‚ > > Thus, dasa pravesha chakra is applicable in several dasas and a > vital part of interpreting dasas in my view.> > Ã‚ > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> -----> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas

Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----> ----- > > Ã‚ > > sohamsa@ .com, Kasim Khan

<kasim_ch@> wrote:> > >> > >

> > > Dear Narasimha,> > >Ã‚ > > > Thank you for sharing your article.> > >Ã‚ > > > I notice that when looking at the Dasa Pravesh chart you look at > the chart by taking the dasa sign as the lagna.> > >Ã‚ > > > Do you do this in Narayana dasa and Sudasa too?> > >Ã‚ > > > Best wishes> > >Ã‚ > > > Kasim > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 115454061/ direct/01/

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Thank you very much, Michal, I will certainly look at Hughes' chart using these tools.

Have you found an effective strategy for predicting the overall thrust of Howard's life and the turn it seemed to take toward the end with reclusiveness and suspicion?

A strategy that might have been useful for a consultation with Howard when he was a youth in order to give him good advice about conducting the rest of his life, preparing for opportunites, sidestepping dangers during critical time periods?

Have you any strategy you've used to see what progress he made toward moksha?

Hare Rama Krishna,

Steve--- On Sun, 11/9/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichalRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 5:10 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,Parasara has advised to look at Sri Lagna in the chart to determine wealth. In the chart of Howard Hughes Sri Lagna is in Taurus conjoined Jupiter who is 8th lord (inheritance) and dispositer of Surya. Lord of Sri Lagna is Shukra who is exalted in Navamsa and conjoined debilitated Moon in Rasi. Ucca and neecha grahas indicate vast measures of wealth as per Jaimini's sutra 2.4.28. Venus and Moon conjoined shows various luxuries. Also look at 2nd and 8th houses for wealth from Lagna and Arudha Lagna. In this chart all the benefics are on this axis from AL.Sudasa is used to time events related to Sri lagna and works very well in this chart. With the logic you use with Vimshottari dasa you will find it very difficult to accurately predict what is happening in a blind chart.Warm regards,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comMonday, 10 November, 2008 10:39:04 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Saturn, Lord of the 6th, aspects the lagna and Mercury, lord of the second (wealth) and 11th, gains. On his 19th birthday, Hughes was running Vimshottari Shukra MahaDasha and Rahu Antardasha. Shukra is conjoined Mercury, Lord of the 11th, and is aspected by Saturn, Lord of the 6th. Rahu is co-lord of the 7th, occupied by Saturn, co-lord of the 7th and sole lord of the 6th.So the 6th house can be involved in gains of wealth. The 11th house most properly will give gains relative to the lagna. The lagna is Singh with its lord, the Sun, in Dhanu in the 5th. We would expect the dasha of the 11th house to give gains of

power, integration, mantras, progeny/concrete productivity, romance, speculation and other karakatwas of Singh. I don't know enough about Hughes' life to know whether these happened during Mercury Mahadasha or Antardasha but many of these karakatwa I believe did occur during his life.I'll get a biography of Hughes and see how my understanding of how houses work together--including seeing how the seeming positives or seeming negatives surface--fits the facts of Hughes' chart and the unfolding under different dasha conditions. If you have already analyzed Howard's chart in depth and have a source of biographical information you trust, please share both with me (and Sohamsa). It would be helpful for me-and I hope, us-- to enjoy the juxtaposition of your interpretations and facts with my unfolding understanding. Hare Rama KrishnaSteve--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comFriday, November 7, 2008, 4:05 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,Here is the chart of a person who recieved some million(s) dollar inheritance on his 19th birthday.Hughes, HowardNatal Chart December 24, 1905Time: 22:12:17Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 95 W 22' 00", 29 N 46' 00"Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comSaturday, 8 November, 2008 2:54:50 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Remember this thread started with Narasimha's post and Sanjay Guruji's response to it, then my asking Sanjay for clarification. From my point of view, the houses represent a progression from the first house, which is the desire of the soul, its overall competence to fulfill to it, and its style of progression. The 6th house shows the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions; the seventh, partnership, the reward for purity; the eighth, the resources and temptations one gets as a consequence of partnership; the ninth the ability to attune to dharma and the guru in a higher sense than one could acting just as an individual; the 10th, action to fulfill dharma, the wishes of the Guru, the embodiment of the Higher Self; the eleventh, the routinization of the gains achieved through action and also the training of successors (remember, the 11th also signifies elder brother); the 12th loss of the small self, gain of moksha,

spending the gains signified by the 11th, and the ability to swim back and forth in the sea of unity of diversity, (two fish as symbols of Pisces, Meena Rashi), attending to details of a very narrow material kind while never losing one's establishment in Oneness.

All these significations I've laid out are relative to lagna but they can be laid out with respect to any bhava. For example, the 11th from the 12th is the 10th: this combines the nature of action with respect to the lagna with gain of moksha. Layers interpenetrate layers and these abstractions the Rishis present us with become concrete in the context of a specific chart. Choose a chart and let's see what we can do with it to translate potential into actual.

Hare Rama Krishna,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 4:06 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Steve,It's wonderful that it makes sense to you. However something 'making sense' to someone is not enough. I have seen many times people convinced of something only to learn later that they were completely wrong (myself included). I can't tell you how many 'astrologers' I have met that use the tropical zodiac unaware even of the concept of precession, using asteriods/planetoid s/fantazoids to explain people's horoscopes. I will elaborate on my questions so that you can perhaps explain your reasoning. How do we differentiate between the house in question and the 11th house from it? ie. how is the 8th house of siddhi different from the 6th house of 'siddhi gains'? Does Lagna Lord in the 8th give interest in the occult, and if it does, how is it different to Lagna Lord in the 6th giving interest in 'gaining the occult' as you propose?I understand and

appreciate fluidity in a chart but what you are suggesting is seeing 5th house for spouse, then 3rd house for children, then Lagna for siblings, then 11th house for the self or 'gains of self' etc. Whatever do you mean?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 10:31:23 AMRe: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Makes sense to me.

Jai Shri Ganesh,

Steve--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >Re: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasasohamsa@ .comThursday, November 6, 2008, 1:52 PM

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Stephen,Does this mean that 6th house can give inheritance since it is 11th from 8th? Or that the 2nd house can give vehicles since it is 11th from 4th?Respectfully,Michal

Stephen K. Sufian <veda108 >sohamsa@ .comFriday, 7 November, 2008 3:29:03 AMRE: Re: Download Article on Parasara's Drigdasa

Don't understand: Narasimha's angle makes perfect sense -11th from the 8th, and then also as sixth house obstacles to sadhana. Seems to work.Could add another angle - 6th house is not merely obstacles, enemies, but it is the proxy for Kanya-Virginity- Purity and the ability to maintain purity in the midst of distractions. Also makes sense for siddhis. Successful traversing 6th house leads to the ability to perform successful 7th house activities, to woo the princess (Big Self),get the higher contract, and live life on a higher plane, one in which what seemed to be siddhis are merely the natural abilities of the