Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Folks I got confirmation from ADB's Pat and also I checked the book - Times Changes in USA, that clarifies that one has to use 4:00 hr West of GMT when casting Biden's chart. Earlier I was using 5:00 hrs West (still gave Sc lagna but amsa charts were wrong). This gives (still) scorpio lagna with libra navamsa and dasamsa. Biden: Nov 20, 1942 (Scranton, PA).Lagna is 10Sc08 and Moon is 7Ar55 (Aswini 3rd pada). Note use - 4:00 hrs West of GMT (War time correction that was in effect from Feb 1942 to some time in 1945) Transit - Tenth house Leo has Saturn and is aspected by Jupiter. This makes the double transit complete. With a strong guru dasa and Shani bhukti starting in 2008 Nov 8th , I feel he is destined for a higher position. In D10, there is Saturn and 10th lord moon in 9th house. Also there is an exchange on Me and Moon (9th and 10th lord of D10). It appears that he will occupy a higher position in the years to come. This gives me confidence to say that he can be the next Vice President of USA. M. Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Hi everyone and Manjunath thanks for the detail of actual time for B O 's chart. I predicted he would win the election with other means than the natal chart and referred to this earlier this year, but now we can be confident it is the right time for his chart. I took a very quick and superficial look at his chart today and given I just spent a lot of time studying significations in the classics for imprisonment due to a clients chart presenting with this difficulty, I was stunned to see so many of the significations turning up in Obamas chart! I have never ever seen so many significations for imprisonment in only one chart! Firt of all the sun mer connection in seventh is not as widespread, or common, as it might be given these two are so often found together, though not so frequently in seventh house. Hilter had sun with mer in seventh and ended his days imprisoned in a bunker. There is Rahu with Mars in eighth house, ( Saddam Hussain amongst many others, had this conjunction and ended his days in an hole underground before being imprisoned and put on trial and them hanged) brings confinement in many ways, though not necessarily always imprisonment, though often it signifies many hospital stays or ashram retreats, depending on the rest of the chart. Then there is the L12 Jupiter ( twelfth being prisons) aspecting Sun, another signification of confinement, then there is Sat aspecting Sun another aspect of confinement!!! This can't all be connected to being a lawyer where he manages to send people to prison, and surely it tells of not only the state of his ego and soul but also of his physical existence and perhaps a real confinement to come. The chart also has a partial Mahaparivartana yoga ( essential in many charts of presidents of US) between L 6,9 Mer and L 5 Ven which seems harmed by inclusion of PV with Moon L7, though this is debateable that the Moon would harm public position, more likely to harm romantic opps and rel with children and wife if anything. See the constant flow of energy between fifth sixth seventh and ninth house, where he seems to spend his entire life trying to navigate his rel with wife, friends, associates, service, enemies and rivals,children and dharmic intention in life, it is quite an unusual blend of planetary interaction. feedback welcome best wishes M - M. Sharma Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:46 PM Biden's chart (use 4:00 west of GMT) Folks I got confirmation from ADB's Pat and also I checked the book - Times Changes in USA, that clarifies that one has to use 4:00 hr West of GMT when casting Biden's chart. Earlier I was using 5:00 hrs West (still gave Sc lagna but amsa charts were wrong). This gives (still) scorpio lagna with libra navamsa and dasamsa. Biden: Nov 20, 1942 (Scranton, PA).Lagna is 10Sc08 and Moon is 7Ar55 (Aswini 3rd pada). Note use - 4:00 hrs West of GMT (War time correction that was in effect from Feb 1942 to some time in 1945) Transit - Tenth house Leo has Saturn and is aspected by Jupiter. This makes the double transit complete. With a strong guru dasa and Shani bhukti starting in 2008 Nov 8th , I feel he is destined for a higher position. In D10, there is Saturn and 10th lord moon in 9th house. Also there is an exchange on Me and Moon (9th and 10th lord of D10). It appears that he will occupy a higher position in the years to come. This gives me confidence to say that he can be the next Vice President of USA. M. Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Dear Friends: Here is the information for Senator Joe Biden: Nov. 20, 1942 8:30 a.m. Scranton, Pennsylvania (PA) USA 75W39:46 41N24:32 Timezone: 5 DST: 1 This gives the Scorpio rising sign at 10:08 degrees, with Sun in Scorpio, and Moon in Aries. And, as M. Sharma pointed out, this birth time also gives the Libra navamsha and dashamsha charts. Senator Biden is running the Jupiter main period and the Jupiter sub period through the election. Jupiter is exalted in his chart, in the ninth house of dharma and divine grace. Jupiter, however, is weak in infant state, and is ruled by the Moon, which is placed in the sixth house of conflict and enemies. Moon, in turn, is ruled by Mars, which is placed in the twelfth house. Currently, and through the election, Jupiter is transiting Senator Biden's second house of wealth and status. This is a very positive indication. Best wishes, David Hawthorne On Behalf Of Marg Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:08 PM Re: Biden's chart (use 4:00 west of GMT) Hi everyone and Manjunath thanks for the detail of actual time for B O 's chart. I predicted he would win the election with other means than the natal chart and referred to this earlier this year, but now we can be confident it is the right time for his chart. I took a very quick and superficial look at his chart today and given I just spent a lot of time studying significations in the classics for imprisonment due to a clients chart presenting with this difficulty, I was stunned to see so many of the significations turning up in Obamas chart! I have never ever seen so many significations for imprisonment in only one chart! Firt of all the sun mer connection in seventh is not as widespread, or common, as it might be given these two are so often found together, though not so frequently in seventh house. Hilter had sun with mer in seventh and ended his days imprisoned in a bunker. There is Rahu with Mars in eighth house, ( Saddam Hussain amongst many others, had this conjunction and ended his days in an hole underground before being imprisoned and put on trial and them hanged) brings confinement in many ways, though not necessarily always imprisonment, though often it signifies many hospital stays or ashram retreats, depending on the rest of the chart. Then there is the L12 Jupiter ( twelfth being prisons) aspecting Sun, another signification of confinement, then there is Sat aspecting Sun another aspect of confinement!!! This can't all be connected to being a lawyer where he manages to send people to prison, and surely it tells of not only the state of his ego and soul but also of his physical existence and perhaps a real confinement to come. The chart also has a partial Mahaparivartana yoga ( essential in many charts of presidents of US) between L 6,9 Mer and L 5 Ven which seems harmed by inclusion of PV with Moon L7, though this is debateable that the Moon would harm public position, more likely to harm romantic opps and rel with children and wife if anything. See the constant flow of energy between fifth sixth seventh and ninth house, where he seems to spend his entire life trying to navigate his rel with wife, friends, associates, service, enemies and rivals,children and dharmic intention in life, it is quite an unusual blend of planetary interaction. feedback welcome best wishes M - M. Sharma Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:46 PM Biden's chart (use 4:00 west of GMT) Folks I got confirmation from ADB's Pat and also I checked the book - Times Changes in USA, that clarifies that one has to use 4:00 hr West of GMT when casting Biden's chart. Earlier I was using 5:00 hrs West (still gave Sc lagna but amsa charts were wrong). This gives (still) scorpio lagna with libra navamsa and dasamsa. Biden: Nov 20, 1942 (Scranton, PA).Lagna is 10Sc08 and Moon is 7Ar55 (Aswini 3rd pada). Note use - 4:00 hrs West of GMT (War time correction that was in effect from Feb 1942 to some time in 1945) Transit - Tenth house Leo has Saturn and is aspected by Jupiter. This makes the double transit complete. With a strong guru dasa and Shani bhukti starting in 2008 Nov 8th , I feel he is destined for a higher position. In D10, there is Saturn and 10th lord moon in 9th house. Also there is an exchange on Me and Moon (9th and 10th lord of D10). It appears that he will occupy a higher position in the years to come. This gives me confidence to say that he can be the next Vice President of USA. M. Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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