Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details: January 19, 1970 Time: 1:20:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " Andheri, India The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so! I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams! Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hello Anna JiYes indeed the lady is on psychiatric treatment - but her present condition can best be described is of a serious mental case where the subject exhibits possession by evil spirits - I hope am able to convey my feelings. She mumbles and then asks the purpose of visit to known and strange persons who visit her - few seconds she just mouths bad language - ending in even foul language - which can barely be tolerated by another person! Several times she has walked out un-noticed from her current residence and literally walked several miles - even on railway tracks - ending up sleeping like vagabonds on railway platforms and slums!!Her family and those around her are on the verge of mental breakdown themselves - hence they are planning to shift her to a mental asylum! Warm regardsVirendraOn Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:58 PM, 108ar <bona_mente wrote: Hi Dev, This lady seems to be a school example of Post-Partum-Psychosis. She should have been on /med/ treatment, to minimize suffering, calms her down, reduce hallucinations...which create vicious circle and prevent other measures from working. She is a mother of two, no experiments, pls! It makes sense that BM manifests this way, but in no way does that mean that medication can be excluded! Regards, Anna--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Dev Kumar <jumanji1957 wrote: Dev Kumar <jumanji1957 Possessed by evil spirits? " Sohamsa " <sohamsa >, " SriJagannath " , Saturday, August 2, 2008, 11:01 AM I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details:January 19, 1970Time: 1:20:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " Andheri, IndiaThe lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so!I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams!Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Kumar, When did symptoms first start, when was birth of the second child? thanks LakshmiDev Kumar <jumanji1957 wrote: Hare Rama KrsnaPranaams Laxmi Kary JiThe time is 1:20 AM!! Yes indeed she has had her physicals and complete check up! Her relatives have exhausted all possible resources for diagnosing and in search of a cure for her condition. They are now planning to shift her to a mental asylum in Virar - a northern most suburb of Mumbai! I have on my persuaded them to wait till I hear from able astrologers to find a remedy for her condition.The question asked by my friend was "will she survive?" Her relatives have given up on her and they would like to see her die rather than suffer in her present condition.Hope to hear from you soon. Warm regardsVirendraPSsomehow erroneously my name appears as Dev - my apologies On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary > wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Dev, That is AM not PM.? Has anyone taken her to a MD who knows about such things? Has she had a complete physical with exams? Whenever I see Saturn debiliated in Aires you wonder about the possiblity of Physical disease, as Aires rules the head. Anyone who exhibits unusual behavior should always go for physical exam, as sometimes it is a simple solution to balance the body. Having psychosis isnt that uncommon to occur during or right after childbirth when there is an increase in hormones coupled with alot of stress.( see in USA what happened with Britany Spears) Lupus among other disease,brain tumors, can cause psychosis as well . After I am sure of am pm I will consider the points further. thank-you for interesting case. I hope the suffering lady can be helped. Lakshmi Dev Kumar <jumanji1957 > wrote: I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends.Birth Details:January 19, 1970Time: 1:20:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00", 19 N 07' 00"Andheri, IndiaThe lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives!Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so!I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family!Please accept my humble pranaams!Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 It looks like a case of post partum psychosis.YasodaLakshmi Kary <lakshmikarysohamsa Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 3:08:32 PMRe: Possessed by evil spirits? Hare Rama Krishna Dear Kumar, When did symptoms first start, when was birth of the second child? thanks LakshmiDev Kumar <jumanji1957@ gmail.com> wrote: Hare Rama KrsnaPranaams Laxmi Kary JiThe time is 1:20 AM!! Yes indeed she has had her physicals and complete check up! Her relatives have exhausted all possible resources for diagnosing and in search of a cure for her condition. They are now planning to shift her to a mental asylum in Virar - a northern most suburb of Mumbai! I have on my persuaded them to wait till I hear from able astrologers to find a remedy for her condition.The question asked by my friend was "will she survive?" Her relatives have given up on her and they would like to see her die rather than suffer in her present condition.Hope to hear from you soon. Warm regardsVirendraPSsomehow erroneously my name appears as Dev - my apologies On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary@ > wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Dev, That is AM not PM.? Has anyone taken her to a MD who knows about such things? Has she had a complete physical with exams? Whenever I see Saturn debiliated in Aires you wonder about the possiblity of Physical disease, as Aires rules the head. Anyone who exhibits unusual behavior should always go for physical exam, as sometimes it is a simple solution to balance the body. Having psychosis isnt that uncommon to occur during or right after childbirth when there is an increase in hormones coupled with alot of stress.( see in USA what happened with Britany Spears) Lupus among other disease,brain tumors, can cause psychosis as well . After I am sure of am pm I will consider the points further. thank-you for interesting case. I hope the suffering lady can be helped. Lakshmi Dev Kumar <jumanji1957@ gmail.com> wrote: I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends.Birth Details:January 19, 1970Time: 1:20:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00", 19 N 07' 00"Andheri, IndiaThe lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives!Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so!I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family!Please accept my humble pranaams!Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michael , Namaskar We should use Utpanna. Its Shukra-Shani. Shani is amsesh of Guru (abhichara) and bhadakesh (abhichara) therefore this problem crop up now. Shani is in vipat tara from Lagna and lords Vainasika (destructive) Nakshatra from Lagna. For this abhichara Datta mantra is perscribed and as its in realm of Grahamalika (Ma is inside) the end-planet is important; its AK and Bagala (neecha) or Narasimha (lording ninth from Karakaamsa) is Ishta Deva. For curse its Sri Dakshinamoorti which should be worshipped. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Michal Dziwulski pisze: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Virendra, 6th lord Jupiter is in Lagna and is aspected by Mars. This is a combination for abhicara. Jupiter is also aspected by Rahu from the 5th house and debilitated Saturn who is lord of the 5th house. These malefic aspects constitute a curse. The Mahadasa running is Jupiter and she is running antardasas firstly of Mars and now Rahu. The following dasa of Saturn does not look helpful at all, as it is placed in the 12th from AK (Moon in MKS) showing bondage. To add to this Lagna Lord is closely conjoined badhakesh and aspected by Shani. Venus is also the 8th lord making this curse primary. The curse is very deep and the remedy lies in worshiping Parvati. It can be alleviated as it is in Kendra and there are no retrograde planets involved. Remedy for the abhicara is worship of the 9th lord Mercury. If Visnu is not propritiated then the 12th house lordship will prevail and she will be hospitalised. As Mercury is in a sign of Guru then a mantra for dattatreya can be advised that is specific for removing evils. I hope this helps. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Dev Kumar <jumanji1957 > Sohamsa <sohamsa >; SriJagannath ; Sunday, August 3, 2008 3:01:25 AM Possessed by evil spirits? I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details: January 19, 1970 Time: 1:20:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 72 E 50' 00", 19 N 07' 00" Andheri, India The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so! I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams! Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal,Please see below.Respectfully,MichalRafal Gendarz <starsuponmesohamsa Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 9:09:46 AMRe: Possessed by evil spirits?kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Michael , Namaskar We should use Utpanna.Please share the reasoning for preferring this? Its Shukra-Shani. Shani is amsesh of Guru (abhichara) and bhadakesh (abhichara) therefore this problem crop up now. Shani is in vipat tara from Lagna and lords Vainasika (destructive) Nakshatra from Lagna.Should we use Nava Taras from Lagna when using Utpanna?Shukra Mahadasa - rules Manasa tara with Ketu, Gulika, and Mandi placed there. Shukra conjoins the Sun. For this abhichara Datta mantra is perscribed and as its in realm of Grahamalika (Ma is inside) the end-planet is important; its AK and Bagala (neecha) or Narasimha (lording ninth from Karakaamsa) is Ishta Deva.Worship of Devi is important for cleansing the 4th house. For curse its Sri Dakshinamoorti which should be worshipped.Do you mean for the curse of Jupiter? Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski pisze: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Virendra, 6th lord Jupiter is in Lagna and is aspected by Mars. This is a combination for abhicara. Jupiter is also aspected by Rahu from the 5th house and debilitated Saturn who is lord of the 5th house. These malefic aspects constitute a curse. The Mahadasa running is Jupiter and she is running antardasas firstly of Mars and now Rahu. The following dasa of Saturn does not look helpful at all, as it is placed in the 12th from AK (Moon in MKS) showing bondage. To add to this Lagna Lord is closely conjoined badhakesh and aspected by Shani. Venus is also the 8th lord making this curse primary. The curse is very deep and the remedy lies in worshiping Parvati. It can be alleviated as it is in Kendra and there are no retrograde planets involved. Remedy for the abhicara is worship of the 9th lord Mercury. If Visnu is not propritiated then the 12th house lordship will prevail and she will be hospitalised. As Mercury is in a sign of Guru then a mantra for dattatreya can be advised that is specific for removing evils. I hope this helps. Respectfully, Michal----- Original Message ---- Dev Kumar <jumanji1957@ gmail.com> Sohamsa <sohamsa@ .com>; SriJagannath <>; Sunday, August 3, 2008 3:01:25 AM Possessed by evil spirits?I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details: January 19, 1970 Time: 1:20:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 72 E 50' 00", 19 N 07' 00" Andheri, India The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so! I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams! Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Namaste, I see that there is a very very serious problem here. Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a Brahmana shaapa (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be the main problem and the direct cause of current affliction. IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a couple of degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More importantly, he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo for him. Each planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign. JHora shows them. Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon as usual and say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite being exalted, Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in his mrityu bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon is in my judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate Vimsottari dasa from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from it. Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is running Ketu mahadasa from 2004 to 2011. Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru sthana, being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite malefic. Even in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord Mercury. Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to buddhi. Most psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon or Mercury in D-30. Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that are very difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It could very well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use. The situation is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies. Desperate situations call for desperate measures. The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If somebody can chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it may be able to solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a straight back and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok to get up once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down again. Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no magical push-button kind of solutions. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , " Dev Kumar " <jumanji1957 wrote: > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. > > Birth Details: > > January 19, 1970 > > Time: 1:20:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > Andheri, India > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > bringing peace in their lives! > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > family! > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear Virendra, The aspects of a weak Mars on Lagna and functional benefic in the Lagnamsa makes a native timid and fickle. In the given case, the native was born in Libra Lagna and it is aspected by weak Mars (hammed in between malefic, becomes neecha in Amsa, lacks vargha phalam, attained mrita and sayana avastha). The causes for mental aberrations rests with Mars, Ketu and 4th house in relation to natives Lagna. In the instant case weak Mars and Ketu aspects the natives Lagna and her 4th house is weakened by the presence of bhadhakaathipathi in its nakshtra Uttrashada besides Lagnathipathy Venus also in the same nakstra chaara.Further the 4th house is deteriorated as dispositor Sani debilitated . In the Rahu’s orbit, the 5th house denotes poorva-paapa. In the case under study, Lagna forms the 5th house to Rahu in its orbit which is also aspected by Paapakarak Sani.In the above referred Lagna Guru is placed in mutual nakshtra parivardhana with Rahu, aspected by three functional malefic Mars, Sani and Ketu.These raises the present constrains to the native in her Ragu AD Guru MD from 13th July 2007 to 23rd November 2009( Vimshotri dasa in Savana ears). Recommended : Rahu preedhi / santhi, goat paduma (in gold) dhaana and Mritunjya japam (japam may chanted by self / spouse). If the above rituals are observed, she would gradually attain normalcy during Sani AD in Sani dasa and further Sani dasa would bestow her fortunes. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. Dev Kumar <jumanji1957 wrote: I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details: January 19, 1970 Time: 1:20:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " Andheri, India The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so! I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams! Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michal, Namaskar 1. Moon in third or eight - use Utpanna. 2. Taras from different points show different things, we can use whatever we like if we know what we are doing. Lagna is stronger. 3. Yes, Manasa with Surya is dangerous. 4. Yes. Dispositor is Yuti Surya. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Michal Dziwulski pisze: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rafal, Please see below. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> sohamsa Sunday, August 3, 2008 9:09:46 AM Re: Possessed by evil spirits? kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michael , Namaskar We should use Utpanna. Please share the reasoning for preferring this? Its Shukra-Shani. Shani is amsesh of Guru (abhichara) and bhadakesh (abhichara) therefore this problem crop up now. Shani is in vipat tara from Lagna and lords Vainasika (destructive) Nakshatra from Lagna. Should we use Nava Taras from Lagna when using Utpanna? Shukra Mahadasa - rules Manasa tara with Ketu, Gulika, and Mandi placed there. Shukra conjoins the Sun. For this abhichara Datta mantra is perscribed and as its in realm of Grahamalika (Ma is inside) the end-planet is important; its AK and Bagala (neecha) or Narasimha (lording ninth from Karakaamsa) is Ishta Deva. Worship of Devi is important for cleansing the 4th house. For curse its Sri Dakshinamoorti which should be worshipped. Do you mean for the curse of Jupiter? Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski pisze: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Virendra, 6th lord Jupiter is in Lagna and is aspected by Mars. This is a combination for abhicara. Jupiter is also aspected by Rahu from the 5th house and debilitated Saturn who is lord of the 5th house. These malefic aspects constitute a curse. The Mahadasa running is Jupiter and she is running antardasas firstly of Mars and now Rahu. The following dasa of Saturn does not look helpful at all, as it is placed in the 12th from AK (Moon in MKS) showing bondage. To add to this Lagna Lord is closely conjoined badhakesh and aspected by Shani. Venus is also the 8th lord making this curse primary. The curse is very deep and the remedy lies in worshiping Parvati. It can be alleviated as it is in Kendra and there are no retrograde planets involved. Remedy for the abhicara is worship of the 9th lord Mercury. If Visnu is not propritiated then the 12th house lordship will prevail and she will be hospitalised. As Mercury is in a sign of Guru then a mantra for dattatreya can be advised that is specific for removing evils. I hope this helps. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Dev Kumar <jumanji1957@ gmail.com> Sohamsa <sohamsa@ .com>; SriJagannath <>; Sunday, August 3, 2008 3:01:25 AM Possessed by evil spirits? I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details: January 19, 1970 Time: 1:20:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 72 E 50' 00", 19 N 07' 00" Andheri, India The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so! I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams! Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hare Rama KrsnaPranaams Laxmi JiSorry for the delay in giving you a feedback, it was already 1 AM here in India and I had to wait for day break to approach my friend for information desired by you. Below are birth details of both daughters - the details of younger daughter are of academic interest! Elder Daughter:June 28, 1997Time: 8:43:00 - (8:43 AM)Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " Mumbai, IndiaYounger Daughter:September 7, 2003 Time: 16:55:00 - (4:55 PM)Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " Mumbai, IndiaHer symptoms were noticed within months of the birth of her younger daughter and she has been hospitalized often - her relatives have lost track! Many times for psychiatric treatment or otherwise. Amongst her other symptoms - she is suffering from Thyroid problem - this was conveyed to me just this morning! She is undergoing treatment for this problem as well!Will appreciate inputs from you as well other learned astrologers. Warm regards VirendraOn Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Kumar, When did symptoms first start, when was birth of the second child? thanks LakshmiDev Kumar <jumanji1957 wrote: Hare Rama KrsnaPranaams Laxmi Kary JiThe time is 1:20 AM!! Yes indeed she has had her physicals and complete check up! Her relatives have exhausted all possible resources for diagnosing and in search of a cure for her condition. They are now planning to shift her to a mental asylum in Virar - a northern most suburb of Mumbai! I have on my persuaded them to wait till I hear from able astrologers to find a remedy for her condition.The question asked by my friend was " will she survive? " Her relatives have given up on her and they would like to see her die rather than suffer in her present condition. Hope to hear from you soon. Warm regardsVirendraPSsomehow erroneously my name appears as Dev - my apologies On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Dev, That is AM not PM.? Has anyone taken her to a MD who knows about such things? Has she had a complete physical with exams? Whenever I see Saturn debiliated in Aires you wonder about the possiblity of Physical disease, as Aires rules the head. Anyone who exhibits unusual behavior should always go for physical exam, as sometimes it is a simple solution to balance the body. Having psychosis isnt that uncommon to occur during or right after childbirth when there is an increase in hormones coupled with alot of stress.( see in USA what happened with Britany Spears) Lupus among other disease,brain tumors, can cause psychosis as well . After I am sure of am pm I will consider the points further. thank-you for interesting case. I hope the suffering lady can be helped. Lakshmi Dev Kumar <jumanji1957 wrote: I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details:January 19, 1970Time: 1:20:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " Andheri, IndiaThe lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so!I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams!Virendra _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear Yasoda JiPlease accept my humble gratitude for analyzing her chart. Warm regardsVirendraOn Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:04 AM, yasoda krsna <yasodakrsna wrote: It looks like a case of post partum psychosis.Yasoda Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikarysohamsa Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 3:08:32 PM Re: Possessed by evil spirits? Hare Rama Krishna Dear Kumar, When did symptoms first start, when was birth of the second child? thanks LakshmiDev Kumar <jumanji1957@ gmail.com> wrote: Hare Rama KrsnaPranaams Laxmi Kary JiThe time is 1:20 AM!! Yes indeed she has had her physicals and complete check up! Her relatives have exhausted all possible resources for diagnosing and in search of a cure for her condition. They are now planning to shift her to a mental asylum in Virar - a northern most suburb of Mumbai! I have on my persuaded them to wait till I hear from able astrologers to find a remedy for her condition.The question asked by my friend was " will she survive? " Her relatives have given up on her and they would like to see her die rather than suffer in her present condition. Hope to hear from you soon. Warm regardsVirendraPSsomehow erroneously my name appears as Dev - my apologies On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary@ > wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Dev, That is AM not PM.? Has anyone taken her to a MD who knows about such things? Has she had a complete physical with exams? Whenever I see Saturn debiliated in Aires you wonder about the possiblity of Physical disease, as Aires rules the head. Anyone who exhibits unusual behavior should always go for physical exam, as sometimes it is a simple solution to balance the body. Having psychosis isnt that uncommon to occur during or right after childbirth when there is an increase in hormones coupled with alot of stress.( see in USA what happened with Britany Spears) Lupus among other disease,brain tumors, can cause psychosis as well . After I am sure of am pm I will consider the points further. thank-you for interesting case. I hope the suffering lady can be helped. Lakshmi Dev Kumar <jumanji1957@ gmail.com> wrote: I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details:January 19, 1970Time: 1:20:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " Andheri, IndiaThe lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so!I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams!Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hare Rama KrsnaDear Michal JiPranaams. That was an excellent analysis. I will be conveying remedies suggested by you to the concerned family.My appreciations for time taken to look into her chart. Warm regards VirendraOn Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Virendra,6th lord Jupiter is in Lagna and is aspected by Mars. This is a combination for abhicara. Jupiter is also aspected by Rahu from the 5th house and debilitated Saturn who is lord of the 5th house. These malefic aspects constitute a curse. The Mahadasa running is Jupiter and she is running antardasas firstly of Mars and now Rahu. The following dasa of Saturn does not look helpful at all, as it is placed in the 12th from AK (Moon in MKS) showing bondage. To add to this Lagna Lord is closely conjoined badhakesh and aspected by Shani. Venus is also the 8th lord making this curse primary. The curse is very deep and the remedy lies in worshiping Parvati. It can be alleviated as it is in Kendra and there are no retrograde planets involved.Remedy for the abhicara is worship of the 9th lord Mercury. If Visnu is not propritiated then the 12th house lordship will prevail and she will be hospitalised. As Mercury is in a sign of Guru then a mantra for dattatreya can be advised that is specific for removing evils. I hope this helps.Respectfully,Michal Dev Kumar <jumanji1957Sohamsa <sohamsa >; SriJagannath ; Sunday, August 3, 2008 3:01:25 AM Possessed by evil spirits?I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details:January 19, 1970Time: 1:20:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " Andheri, IndiaThe lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so!I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams!Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Namaste Narasimha Ji Pranaams. I am completely overwhelmed by your analysis. Yes, she does have a curse, but her current condition is THAT of a possessed individual! I did consider Moon's (AK) mrityu bhaga as well as MKS. In fact I was reading Willa's 2006 west coast lecture on Saturn - the root of disease when this case landed up. 4th house from Moon is occupied by Ketu - by Willa's lecture 4th house from moon is body's healing abilities. Ketu may give problems from unknown sources - like spirits and ghosts! Yes, I did consider Ketu's proximity with Gulika and Ketu's mrityu bjaga center - however I DID NOT consider changing the Vimsottari Dasa to the Kshema star - which gives ruling dasa period of Ketu itself! I also considered Rahu's transit position in her natal 4th house where AL resides. The first query from her brother-in-law was - " will she survive? " Her own family have almost given up hopes and they are now planning to leave her at an asylum - in the company of strangers! I have on my own persuaded them to wait for a week before taking any steps and this is where I posted this case across lists! Please accept my deepest gratitude for sparing your valuable time in analyzing her chart and suggesting a remedy! Many thanks for the remedy! My query - * Can a priest chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra? - am asking this because the family cannot be expected to do it in present circumstances! * Is the presence of the lady required during this chanting? * Where can I download Kumaara Ganapathi Mantra? If your kind self or anyone from this list knows an authentic Pundit in Mumbai who can do the needful, I can persuade the family to approach him! Please accept my humble pranaams. Virendra On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > Namaste, > > I see that there is a very very serious problem here. > > Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a Brahmana shaapa > (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be the main > problem and the direct cause of current affliction. > > IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a couple of > degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More importantly, > he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo for him. Each > planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign. JHora shows > them. > > Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon as usual and > say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite being exalted, > Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in his mrityu > bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon is in my > judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate Vimsottari dasa > from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from it. > > Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is running Ketu > mahadasa from 2004 to 2011. > > Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru sthana, > being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite malefic. Even > in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord Mercury. > Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to buddhi. Most > psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon or Mercury in > D-30. > > Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that are very > difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It could very > well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use. The situation > is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies. Desperate > situations call for desperate measures. > > The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If somebody can chant > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it may be able to > solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a straight back > and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok to get up > once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down again. > > Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no magical > push-button kind of solutions. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > sohamsa , " Dev Kumar " <jumanji1957 wrote: > > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is > > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning > > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for > > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. > > > > Birth Details: > > > > January 19, 1970 > > > > Time: 1:20:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > > > Andheri, India > > > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her > > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of > > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway > > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her > to > > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying > > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all > sorts > > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and > soothsayers. > > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > > bringing peace in their lives! > > > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is > in > > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she > says a > > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case > > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > > family! > > > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > > > Virendra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michael, Namaskar When seeing remedy graha then we should study the affliction of graha. Here its Kendra and aspected only by Shani, otherwise Savitur Gayatri is the FINAL remedy for this person. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Michal Dziwulski pisze: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rafal, Regarding your point #4: Surya is involved in another very dangerous curse, so it is not appropriate to use this as a remedy. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> sohamsa Sunday, August 3, 2008 12:50:46 PM Re: Possessed by evil spirits? kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michal, Namaskar 1. Moon in third or eight - use Utpanna. 2. Taras from different points show different things, we can use whatever we like if we know what we are doing. Lagna is stronger. 3. Yes, Manasa with Surya is dangerous. 4. Yes. Dispositor is Yuti Surya. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski pisze: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rafal, Please see below. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> sohamsa@ .com Sunday, August 3, 2008 9:09:46 AM Re: Possessed by evil spirits? kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Michael , Namaskar We should use Utpanna. Please share the reasoning for preferring this? Its Shukra-Shani. Shani is amsesh of Guru (abhichara) and bhadakesh (abhichara) therefore this problem crop up now. Shani is in vipat tara from Lagna and lords Vainasika (destructive) Nakshatra from Lagna. Should we use Nava Taras from Lagna when using Utpanna? Shukra Mahadasa - rules Manasa tara with Ketu, Gulika, and Mandi placed there. Shukra conjoins the Sun. For this abhichara Datta mantra is perscribed and as its in realm of Grahamalika (Ma is inside) the end-planet is important; its AK and Bagala (neecha) or Narasimha (lording ninth from Karakaamsa) is Ishta Deva. Worship of Devi is important for cleansing the 4th house. For curse its Sri Dakshinamoorti which should be worshipped. Do you mean for the curse of Jupiter? Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski pisze: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Virendra, 6th lord Jupiter is in Lagna and is aspected by Mars. This is a combination for abhicara. Jupiter is also aspected by Rahu from the 5th house and debilitated Saturn who is lord of the 5th house. These malefic aspects constitute a curse. The Mahadasa running is Jupiter and she is running antardasas firstly of Mars and now Rahu. The following dasa of Saturn does not look helpful at all, as it is placed in the 12th from AK (Moon in MKS) showing bondage. To add to this Lagna Lord is closely conjoined badhakesh and aspected by Shani. Venus is also the 8th lord making this curse primary. The curse is very deep and the remedy lies in worshiping Parvati. It can be alleviated as it is in Kendra and there are no retrograde planets involved. Remedy for the abhicara is worship of the 9th lord Mercury. If Visnu is not propritiated then the 12th house lordship will prevail and she will be hospitalised. As Mercury is in a sign of Guru then a mantra for dattatreya can be advised that is specific for removing evils. I hope this helps. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Dev Kumar <jumanji1957@ gmail.com> Sohamsa <sohamsa@ ..com>; SriJagannath <>; Sunday, August 3, 2008 3:01:25 AM Possessed by evil spirits? I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details: January 19, 1970 Time: 1:20:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 72 E 50' 00", 19 N 07' 00" Andheri, India The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so! I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams! Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear Narasimha, I agree with your analysis, only partially. I too saw affliction of Jupitor and weakness of the Moon at the first glance. The Moon, *which is Atmakaraka too,* is in the 8th in Rasi and Navamsa both. In Navamsa it is aspected by 8th lord and is under Papakartari yoga. Then see that Venus, lagna lord and dispositor of the Moon, is deeply combust. Such serious weakness of lagna and the *Moon *leaves the mind vulnerable to such attacks. It surfaced during the dasa of Jupitor (perhaps) because Jup is seriously afflicted, is a functional malefic and is debilitated and afflicted in Navamsa too. It might have started in Jup-Moon itself (Nov 2005 to March 2007). In my opinion, this should be the simple analysis. I consider attributing the cause of problem to badhaka and Marankaraka concepts as stretching the logic too far. Ketu as a malefic is not bad in the 11th and can't cause such grave threats in the 9th in Navamsa aspected only by Jupitor. Rather we should concentrate on 5th and the 9th and judge sanity of mind, as secondary factors. Still, I feel, specifying the outcome of planetary afflictions correctly is really difficult. Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > Namaste, > > I see that there is a very very serious problem here. > > Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a Brahmana shaapa > (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be the main > problem and the direct cause of current affliction. > > IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a couple of > degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More importantly, > he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo for him. Each > planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign. JHora shows > them. > > Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon as usual and > say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite being exalted, > Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in his mrityu > bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon is in my > judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate Vimsottari dasa > from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from it. > > Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is running Ketu > mahadasa from 2004 to 2011. > > Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru sthana, > being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite malefic. Even > in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord Mercury. > Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to buddhi. Most > psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon or Mercury in > D-30. > > Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that are very > difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It could very > well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use. The situation > is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies. Desperate > situations call for desperate measures. > > The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If somebody can chant > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it may be able to > solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a straight back > and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok to get up > once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down again. > > Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no magical > push-button kind of solutions. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > ------------------------- > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/tarpana> > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org<http://www..org/> > ------------------------- > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, " Dev Kumar " > <jumanji1957 wrote: > > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is > > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning > > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for > > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. > > > > Birth Details: > > > > January 19, 1970 > > > > Time: 1:20:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > > > Andheri, India > > > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her > > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of > > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway > > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her > to > > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying > > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all > sorts > > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and > soothsayers. > > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > > bringing peace in their lives! > > > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is > in > > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she > says a > > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case > > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > > family! > > > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > > > Virendra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Lagna lord is combust giving diseases at all times but with two benefics in angles these will also disappear, and this angular position of benefics is a remedy in itself. The husband is not healthy due to L7 in sixth, and it makes him prone to anger and to being her enemy, and due to Sukra being conjunct malefic Sun possibility of losing partner is there, with malefic Sani in seventh this also shows sick and weak and quite ill disposed husband, so is this lady trying to get away from her partner? Rahu in tenth from Moon of Kumbha also gives a disposition to wandering, and she is in Jup Rahu dasa currently, while Moon in eighth from lagna will also give problems with hormones and womb, so perhaps a visit to a good ayurvedic practitioner would also help as this system of medicine is the best in the world for menstrual and hormonal and female problems. I tend to think that sadly she may be incarcerated during Jupiter Rahu Saturn dasa as Parasara predicts for this dasa 'terrible bondage and destruction of happiness,' as well as gastric trouble, though I would hope she gets better treatment than that so far, before then. I don't see much relief for this lady until Saturn Mahadasa to be honest, but I do recommend that she gets proper medical treatment and the allopathic treatment is a good start but good ayurvedic remedies are already there for her so should also be followed to help with the pains and ailments she has. Many women suffer such malaise after birth due to the upsurge of hormones (not evil spirits!!!) needed for the birthing process. This lady is prone to hormonal imbalance due to Moon in eighth, but certainly she can get help to overcome this. She has L2 Mars in sixth which predisposes her to swearing, once her physiology is more settled and calm she would be able to exercise more control over her speech. Mrityunjaya japa is recommended but I would recommend proper medical treatment as suggested as the primary course of action. I think she is better placed with her brothers to be honest! M - Dev Kumar Sohamsa ; SriJagannath ; Saturday, August 02, 2008 4:01 PM Possessed by evil spirits? I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. Birth Details: January 19, 1970 Time: 1:20:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " Andheri, India The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of bringing peace in their lives! Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a Devi is encouraging her to do so! I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire family! Please accept my humble pranaams! Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Namaste Virendra, I see no danger to life at this time. However, as I said, I do suspect a spirit is involved and I do believe the situation is quite serious. Luckily, Ketu-Rahu antardasa finished in June 2008. Now, Ketu-Jupiter is running. There is some chance of a good help and remedy to the problem. That gives me SOME hope. Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a priest or a pandit. Most priests have neither the jaagrut shakti nor the devotion needed. Mantras work either because an individual with jaagrut shakti quickly taps the shakti of the mantra or because the devotion slowly taps the shakti of the mantra. The first approach is rare these days. For the second approach, there is no difference between a priest and a layman! In fact, most priests are unlikely to have the same focus of mind on the goal and the same level of compassion for the suffering person as the relatives and close people. If a person without jaagrut shakti has to awaken a mantra for a specific person's benefit, there has to be a deep compassion for the suffering of the person. I honestly feel that laymen can achieve that better than priests, if they manage to sit down for hours. Things were different in the old days, when priests did tremendous penance and were a walking bundle of energy. In the changed situation of this age, my advice is always for people to do remedies themselves. That is my sincere advice. If the family or close relatives/friends cannot do anything, well, I guess then things are tough. I understand that things are difficult for the family and sitting for meditation for 4 hours everyday is tough. I know another case of spirit possession. The lady was possessed for almost 10 years!! Her family suffered so much during that time. At the end, her family was advised to recite Chandipath and do a homam everyday. They actually did it, despite the tremendous hardships. The lady is fine now. Kumaara Ganapathi mantra is for a form of Ganapathi formed with the energy of Kumara/Kartikeya/Subrahmanya (warrior god, army commander of gods). It is effective in removing the trouble from spirits. I am giving the mantra in iTrans transliteration format below. If you cut and paste in iTranslator software from Omkaranand Ashram, you can see it in Devanagari script. --------- Begin --------- OM gaM kumaara gaNapataye, OM namaH shUrapadma naasha kaaraNaaya sarvashakti dharaaya sarpa yaGYopavItanaaya mahaa pracaNDa krodhanaaya rakta kukShi dharaaya asura koTi saMhaara kaaraNaaya akhaNDa maNDalaaya devataarcita paada padmaaya shaakinii raakinii laakinii haakinii Daakinii kuuShmaaNDa bhuuta vetaaLa paishaaca brahma raakShasa duShTa grahaan naashaya naashaya, bhaarata likhita lekhinii karaaya apasmaara grahaan nivaaraya nivaaraya mardaya mardaya, guhaagrajaaya gajaasura saMharaNaaya garjita bhuuta karaaya sakala bhuuta preta pishaaca brahma raakShasaan shuulena aakR^intaya aakR^intaya chhedaya chhedaya maaraya maaraya, mahaagaNapataye umaakumaaraaya huM phaT bandha bandha DhaM glaaM glauM gaM gaNapataye swaahaa --------- End --------- Another version is OM hriiM glauM gaM gaNapataye gaM glauM hriiM Read whichever is convenient, but for 4 hours everyday. If that is tough, do it atleast for 2 hours. > I consider attributing the cause of problem to badhaka and Marankaraka > concepts as stretching the logic too far. Ketu as a malefic is not bad in > the 11th and can't cause such grave threats in the 9th in Navamsa aspected > only by Jupitor. Dear Praveen, Ketu in 11th is good, but not if 11th is badhaka sthana and there are other weaknesses. Whatever house he occupies in navamsa, Ketu is the badhaka lord in navamsa too! He is associated with badhaka sthana in rasi, navamsa and trimsamsa! What is stretching logic depends on one's understanding of what the basics are. In the charts I have seen with spirit problems, both nodes and badhaka sthana are always involved. To MY mind, attributing this result somehow to Jupiter is stretching logic, while Ketu in badhaka sthana with Gulika and in mrityu bhaga is the perfect, clear and crisp logic. What is " compact " to me looks " stretched " to you and what is compact to you looks stretched to me. Obviously, our understanding of the FUNDAMENTALS is different. :-) Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org , " Virendra Kumar " <jumanji1957 wrote: > > Namaste Narasimha Ji > Pranaams. I am completely overwhelmed by your analysis. Yes, she does have a > curse, but her current condition is THAT of a possessed individual! > > I did consider Moon's (AK) mrityu bhaga as well as MKS. In fact I was > reading Willa's 2006 west coast lecture on Saturn - the root of disease when > this case landed up. 4th house from Moon is occupied by Ketu - by Willa's > lecture 4th house from moon is body's healing abilities. Ketu may give > problems from unknown sources - like spirits and ghosts! Yes, I did consider > Ketu's proximity with Gulika and Ketu's mrityu bjaga center - however I DID > NOT consider changing the Vimsottari Dasa to the Kshema star - which gives > ruling dasa period of Ketu itself! I also considered Rahu's transit position > in her natal 4th house where AL resides. > > The first query from her brother-in-law was - " will she survive? " Her own > family have almost given up hopes and they are now planning to leave her at > an asylum - in the company of strangers! I have on my own persuaded them to > wait for a week before taking any steps and this is where I posted this case > across lists! > > Please accept my deepest gratitude for sparing your valuable time in > analyzing her chart and suggesting a remedy! Many thanks for the remedy! My > query - > > * Can a priest chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra? - am asking this because the > family cannot be expected to do it in present circumstances! > * Is the presence of the lady required during this chanting? > * Where can I download Kumaara Ganapathi Mantra? If your kind self or anyone > from this list knows an authentic Pundit in Mumbai who can do the needful, I > can persuade the family to approach him! > > Please accept my humble pranaams. > > Virendra > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > I see that there is a very very serious problem here. > > > > Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a Brahmana shaapa > > (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be the main > > problem and the direct cause of current affliction. > > > > IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a couple of > > degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More importantly, > > he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo for him. Each > > planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign. JHora shows > > them. > > > > Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon as usual and > > say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite being exalted, > > Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in his mrityu > > bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon is in my > > judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate Vimsottari dasa > > from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from it. > > > > Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is running Ketu > > mahadasa from 2004 to 2011. > > > > Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru sthana, > > being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite malefic. Even > > in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord Mercury. > > Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to buddhi. Most > > psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon or Mercury in > > D-30. > > > > Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that are very > > difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It could very > > well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use. The situation > > is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies. Desperate > > situations call for desperate measures. > > > > The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If somebody can chant > > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it may be able to > > solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a straight back > > and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok to get up > > once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down again. > > > > Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no magical > > push-button kind of solutions. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > sohamsa , " Dev Kumar " <jumanji1957@> wrote: > > > > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is > > > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning > > > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for > > > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. > > > > > > Birth Details: > > > > > > January 19, 1970 > > > > > > Time: 1:20:00 > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > > > > > Andheri, India > > > > > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her > > > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > > > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of > > > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway > > > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her > > to > > > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying > > > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all > > sorts > > > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and > > soothsayers. > > > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > > > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > > > bringing peace in their lives! > > > > > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is > > in > > > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she > > says a > > > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > > > > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case > > > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > > > family! > > > > > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > > > > > Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Namaste Virendra, I see no danger to life at this time. However, as I said, I do suspect a spirit is involved and I do believe the situation is quite serious. Luckily, Ketu-Rahu antardasa finished in June 2008. Now, Ketu-Jupiter is running. There is some chance of a good help and remedy to the problem. That gives me SOME hope. Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a priest or a pandit. Most priests have neither the jaagrut shakti nor the devotion needed. Mantras work either because an individual with jaagrut shakti quickly taps the shakti of the mantra or because the devotion slowly taps the shakti of the mantra. The first approach is rare these days. For the second approach, there is no difference between a priest and a layman! In fact, most priests are unlikely to have the same focus of mind on the goal and the same level of compassion for the suffering person as the relatives and close people. If a person without jaagrut shakti has to awaken a mantra for a specific person's benefit, there has to be a deep compassion for the suffering of the person. I honestly feel that laymen can achieve that better than priests, if they manage to sit down for hours. Things were different in the old days, when priests did tremendous penance and were a walking bundle of energy. In the changed situation of this age, my advice is always for people to do remedies themselves. That is my sincere advice. If the family or close relatives/friends cannot do anything, well, I guess then things are tough. I understand that things are difficult for the family and sitting for meditation for 4 hours everyday is tough. I know another case of spirit possession. The lady was possessed for almost 10 years!! Her family suffered so much during that time. At the end, her family was advised to recite Chandipath and do a homam everyday. They actually did it, despite the tremendous hardships. The lady is fine now. Kumaara Ganapathi mantra is for a form of Ganapathi formed with the energy of Kumara/Kartikeya/Subrahmanya (warrior god, army commander of gods). It is effective in removing the trouble from spirits. I am giving the mantra in iTrans transliteration format below. If you cut and paste in iTranslator software from Omkaranand Ashram, you can see it in Devanagari script. --------- Begin --------- OM gaM kumaara gaNapataye, OM namaH shUrapadma naasha kaaraNaaya sarvashakti dharaaya sarpa yaGYopavItanaaya mahaa pracaNDa krodhanaaya rakta kukShi dharaaya asura koTi saMhaara kaaraNaaya akhaNDa maNDalaaya devataarcita paada padmaaya shaakinii raakinii laakinii haakinii Daakinii kuuShmaaNDa bhuuta vetaaLa paishaaca brahma raakShasa duShTa grahaan naashaya naashaya, bhaarata likhita lekhinii karaaya apasmaara grahaan nivaaraya nivaaraya mardaya mardaya, guhaagrajaaya gajaasura saMharaNaaya garjita bhuuta karaaya sakala bhuuta preta pishaaca brahma raakShasaan shuulena aakR^intaya aakR^intaya chhedaya chhedaya maaraya maaraya, mahaagaNapataye umaakumaaraaya huM phaT bandha bandha DhaM glaaM glauM gaM gaNapataye swaahaa --------- End --------- Another version is OM hriiM glauM gaM gaNapataye gaM glauM hriiM Read whichever is convenient, but for 4 hours everyday. If that is tough, do it atleast for 2 hours. > I consider attributing the cause of problem to badhaka and Marankaraka > concepts as stretching the logic too far. Ketu as a malefic is not bad in > the 11th and can't cause such grave threats in the 9th in Navamsa aspected > only by Jupitor. Dear Praveen, Ketu in 11th is good, but not if 11th is badhaka sthana and there are other weaknesses. Whatever house he occupies in navamsa, Ketu is the badhaka lord in navamsa too! He is associated with badhaka sthana in rasi, navamsa and trimsamsa! What is stretching logic depends on one's understanding of what the basics are. In the charts I have seen with spirit problems, both nodes and badhaka sthana are always involved. To MY mind, attributing this result somehow to Jupiter is stretching logic, while Ketu in badhaka sthana with Gulika and in mrityu bhaga is the perfect, clear and crisp logic. What is " compact " to me looks " stretched " to you and what is compact to you looks stretched to me. Obviously, our understanding of the FUNDAMENTALS is different. :-) Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org , " Virendra Kumar " <jumanji1957 wrote: > > Namaste Narasimha Ji > Pranaams. I am completely overwhelmed by your analysis. Yes, she does have a > curse, but her current condition is THAT of a possessed individual! > > I did consider Moon's (AK) mrityu bhaga as well as MKS. In fact I was > reading Willa's 2006 west coast lecture on Saturn - the root of disease when > this case landed up. 4th house from Moon is occupied by Ketu - by Willa's > lecture 4th house from moon is body's healing abilities. Ketu may give > problems from unknown sources - like spirits and ghosts! Yes, I did consider > Ketu's proximity with Gulika and Ketu's mrityu bjaga center - however I DID > NOT consider changing the Vimsottari Dasa to the Kshema star - which gives > ruling dasa period of Ketu itself! I also considered Rahu's transit position > in her natal 4th house where AL resides. > > The first query from her brother-in-law was - " will she survive? " Her own > family have almost given up hopes and they are now planning to leave her at > an asylum - in the company of strangers! I have on my own persuaded them to > wait for a week before taking any steps and this is where I posted this case > across lists! > > Please accept my deepest gratitude for sparing your valuable time in > analyzing her chart and suggesting a remedy! Many thanks for the remedy! My > query - > > * Can a priest chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra? - am asking this because the > family cannot be expected to do it in present circumstances! > * Is the presence of the lady required during this chanting? > * Where can I download Kumaara Ganapathi Mantra? If your kind self or anyone > from this list knows an authentic Pundit in Mumbai who can do the needful, I > can persuade the family to approach him! > > Please accept my humble pranaams. > > Virendra > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > I see that there is a very very serious problem here. > > > > Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a Brahmana shaapa > > (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be the main > > problem and the direct cause of current affliction. > > > > IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a couple of > > degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More importantly, > > he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo for him. Each > > planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign. JHora shows > > them. > > > > Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon as usual and > > say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite being exalted, > > Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in his mrityu > > bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon is in my > > judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate Vimsottari dasa > > from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from it. > > > > Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is running Ketu > > mahadasa from 2004 to 2011. > > > > Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru sthana, > > being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite malefic. Even > > in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord Mercury. > > Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to buddhi. Most > > psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon or Mercury in > > D-30. > > > > Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that are very > > difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It could very > > well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use. The situation > > is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies. Desperate > > situations call for desperate measures. > > > > The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If somebody can chant > > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it may be able to > > solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a straight back > > and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok to get up > > once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down again. > > > > Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no magical > > push-button kind of solutions. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > sohamsa , " Dev Kumar " <jumanji1957@> wrote: > > > > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is > > > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning > > > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for > > > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. > > > > > > Birth Details: > > > > > > January 19, 1970 > > > > > > Time: 1:20:00 > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > > > > > Andheri, India > > > > > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her > > > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > > > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of > > > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway > > > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her > > to > > > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying > > > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all > > sorts > > > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and > > soothsayers. > > > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > > > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > > > bringing peace in their lives! > > > > > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is > > in > > > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she > > says a > > > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > > > > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case > > > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > > > family! > > > > > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > > > > > Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Namaste Marg, Your observation is very astute. You have provided a viable solution. From my own observation, the chart is predisposed to a troubled mind, or insanity. The chart has an insanity yoga in the rashi and navamsha chart. Plus, the stress the woman is undergoing through due to the close conjunction of Venus to the Sun does not help her physically and mentally. In spite of all these negative factors, there appears to be some help due to the kendra position of Rahu to the Moon. Since the Moon is the karaka for the mind, it is important to treat this graha in order to cure her disease. Specifically, Rahu is a benefic in this case since it is in its own house, Kumbha. Rahu can represent a doctor with specialty in psychiatry and psychology, ayurveda, or homeopathy. Since Rahu is in the nakshatra of Shatabishak, the chart suggests that the woman needs several doctors to diagnose and cure her problems. Further, the woman appears to be suffering with a deep seated fear. This can be deduced from the nakshatra position of the Moon in Mrigashira, and being in the 8th house. Mythologically, this nakshatra position represents the asterism where a scared daughter tried to find refuge from her father, Brahma, who was attempting to rape her and commit incest. With the help of Shiva, the daughter was saved from her predicament. As such, this story suggests that she can benefit from a mantra for Shiva, assuming that she is able and willing to meditate. Lastly, her relatives should request a Hindu priest to perform puja or yagya to help her overcome her situation. Regards, John R. , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Lagna lord is combust giving diseases at all times but with two benefics in angles these will also disappear, and this angular position of benefics is a remedy in itself. > The husband is not healthy due to L7 in sixth, and it makes him prone to anger and to being her enemy, and due to Sukra being conjunct malefic Sun possibility of losing partner is there, with malefic Sani in seventh this also shows sick and weak and quite ill disposed husband, so is this lady trying to get away from her partner? > Rahu in tenth from Moon of Kumbha also gives a disposition to wandering, and she is in Jup Rahu dasa currently, while Moon in eighth from lagna will also give problems with hormones and womb, so perhaps a visit to a good ayurvedic practitioner would also help as this system of medicine is the best in the world for menstrual and hormonal and female problems. > I tend to think that sadly she may be incarcerated during Jupiter Rahu Saturn dasa as Parasara predicts for this dasa 'terrible bondage and destruction of happiness,' as well as gastric trouble, though I would hope she gets better treatment than that so far, before then. > I don't see much relief for this lady until Saturn Mahadasa to be honest, but I do recommend that she gets proper medical treatment and the allopathic treatment is a good start but good ayurvedic remedies are already there for her so should also be followed to help with the pains and ailments she has. > > Many women suffer such malaise after birth due to the upsurge of hormones (not evil spirits!!!) needed for the birthing process. > > This lady is prone to hormonal imbalance due to Moon in eighth, but certainly she can get help to overcome this. She has L2 Mars in sixth which predisposes her to swearing, once her physiology is more settled and calm she would be able to exercise more control over her speech. > Mrityunjaya japa is recommended but I would recommend proper medical treatment as suggested as the primary course of action. I think she is better placed with her brothers to be honest! > M > - > Dev Kumar > Sohamsa ; SriJagannath ; > Saturday, August 02, 2008 4:01 PM > Possessed by evil spirits? > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. > > Birth Details: > > January 19, 1970 > > Time: 1:20:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > Andheri, India > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her to > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all sorts > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and soothsayers. > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > bringing peace in their lives! > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is in > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she says a > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > family! > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > Virendra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Namaste Narasimha Rao Ji Pranaams. There have been sad developments at the native's end. The concerned lady was shifted to a mental asylum about 10 days back - I received this information from a third party. My friend and the lady's family is now reluctant to part with information related to her. I find myself helpless in these circumstances! I would like to expresses my gratitude and thanks for sparing time and efforts to look into her horoscope and suggest remedies. I would also like to thank other list members who have given their valuable inputs. Warm regards Virendra On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > Namaste Virendra, > > I see no danger to life at this time. However, as I said, I do suspect a > spirit is involved and I do believe the situation is quite serious. > > Luckily, Ketu-Rahu antardasa finished in June 2008. Now, Ketu-Jupiter is > running. There is some chance of a good help and remedy to the problem. That > gives me SOME hope. > > Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen many > priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can actually make a > true difference. These days, people are better off doing the best job they > themselves can do, instead of relying on a priest or a pandit. > > Most priests have neither the jaagrut shakti nor the devotion needed. > Mantras work either because an individual with jaagrut shakti quickly taps > the shakti of the mantra or because the devotion slowly taps the shakti of > the mantra. The first approach is rare these days. For the second approach, > there is no difference between a priest and a layman! In fact, most priests > are unlikely to have the same focus of mind on the goal and the same level > of compassion for the suffering person as the relatives and close people. If > a person without jaagrut shakti has to awaken a mantra for a specific > person's benefit, there has to be a deep compassion for the suffering of the > person. I honestly feel that laymen can achieve that better than priests, if > they manage to sit down for hours. Things were different in the old days, > when priests did tremendous penance and were a walking bundle of energy. In > the changed situation of this age, my advice is always for people to do > remedies themselves. > > That is my sincere advice. If the family or close relatives/friends cannot > do anything, well, I guess then things are tough. > > I understand that things are difficult for the family and sitting for > meditation for 4 hours everyday is tough. I know another case of spirit > possession. The lady was possessed for almost 10 years!! Her family suffered > so much during that time. At the end, her family was advised to recite > Chandipath and do a homam everyday. They actually did it, despite the > tremendous hardships. The lady is fine now. > > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra is for a form of Ganapathi formed with the energy > of Kumara/Kartikeya/Subrahmanya (warrior god, army commander of gods). It is > effective in removing the trouble from spirits. I am giving the mantra in > iTrans transliteration format below. If you cut and paste in iTranslator > software from Omkaranand Ashram, you can see it in Devanagari script. > > --------- Begin --------- > OM gaM kumaara gaNapataye, OM namaH shUrapadma naasha kaaraNaaya > sarvashakti dharaaya sarpa yaGYopavItanaaya mahaa pracaNDa krodhanaaya rakta > kukShi dharaaya asura koTi saMhaara kaaraNaaya akhaNDa maNDalaaya > devataarcita paada padmaaya shaakinii raakinii laakinii haakinii Daakinii > kuuShmaaNDa bhuuta vetaaLa paishaaca brahma raakShasa duShTa grahaan > naashaya naashaya, bhaarata likhita lekhinii karaaya apasmaara grahaan > nivaaraya nivaaraya mardaya mardaya, guhaagrajaaya gajaasura saMharaNaaya > garjita bhuuta karaaya sakala bhuuta preta pishaaca brahma raakShasaan > shuulena aakR^intaya aakR^intaya chhedaya chhedaya maaraya maaraya, > mahaagaNapataye umaakumaaraaya huM phaT bandha bandha DhaM glaaM glauM gaM > gaNapataye swaahaa > --------- End --------- > > Another version is > > OM hriiM glauM gaM gaNapataye gaM glauM hriiM > > Read whichever is convenient, but for 4 hours everyday. If that is tough, > do it atleast for 2 hours. > > > I consider attributing the cause of problem to badhaka and Marankaraka > > concepts as stretching the logic too far. Ketu as a malefic is not bad in > > the 11th and can't cause such grave threats in the 9th in Navamsa > aspected > > only by Jupitor. > > Dear Praveen, Ketu in 11th is good, but not if 11th is badhaka sthana and > there are other weaknesses. Whatever house he occupies in navamsa, Ketu is > the badhaka lord in navamsa too! He is associated with badhaka sthana in > rasi, navamsa and trimsamsa! > > What is stretching logic depends on one's understanding of what the basics > are. In the charts I have seen with spirit problems, both nodes and badhaka > sthana are always involved. To MY mind, attributing this result somehow to > Jupiter is stretching logic, while Ketu in badhaka sthana with Gulika and in > mrityu bhaga is the perfect, clear and crisp logic. What is " compact " to me > looks " stretched " to you and what is compact to you looks stretched to me. > Obviously, our understanding of the FUNDAMENTALS is different. :-) > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > , " Virendra Kumar " <jumanji1957 > wrote: > > > > Namaste Narasimha Ji > > Pranaams. I am completely overwhelmed by your analysis. Yes, she does > have a > > curse, but her current condition is THAT of a possessed individual! > > > > I did consider Moon's (AK) mrityu bhaga as well as MKS. In fact I was > > reading Willa's 2006 west coast lecture on Saturn - the root of disease > when > > this case landed up. 4th house from Moon is occupied by Ketu - by Willa's > > lecture 4th house from moon is body's healing abilities. Ketu may give > > problems from unknown sources - like spirits and ghosts! Yes, I did > consider > > Ketu's proximity with Gulika and Ketu's mrityu bjaga center - however I > DID > > NOT consider changing the Vimsottari Dasa to the Kshema star - which > gives > > ruling dasa period of Ketu itself! I also considered Rahu's transit > position > > in her natal 4th house where AL resides. > > > > The first query from her brother-in-law was - " will she survive? " Her own > > family have almost given up hopes and they are now planning to leave her > at > > an asylum - in the company of strangers! I have on my own persuaded them > to > > wait for a week before taking any steps and this is where I posted this > case > > across lists! > > > > Please accept my deepest gratitude for sparing your valuable time in > > analyzing her chart and suggesting a remedy! Many thanks for the remedy! > My > > query - > > > > * Can a priest chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra? - am asking this because > the > > family cannot be expected to do it in present circumstances! > > * Is the presence of the lady required during this chanting? > > * Where can I download Kumaara Ganapathi Mantra? If your kind self or > anyone > > from this list knows an authentic Pundit in Mumbai who can do the > needful, I > > can persuade the family to approach him! > > > > Please accept my humble pranaams. > > > > Virendra > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > I see that there is a very very serious problem here. > > > > > > Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a Brahmana > shaapa > > > (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be the > main > > > problem and the direct cause of current affliction. > > > > > > IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a couple > of > > > degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More > importantly, > > > he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo for him. > Each > > > planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign. JHora shows > > > them. > > > > > > Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon as usual > and > > > say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite being > exalted, > > > Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in his > mrityu > > > bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon is in > my > > > judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate Vimsottari > dasa > > > from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from it. > > > > > > Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is running Ketu > > > mahadasa from 2004 to 2011. > > > > > > Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru sthana, > > > being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite malefic. > Even > > > in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord Mercury. > > > Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to buddhi. Most > > > psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon or > Mercury in > > > D-30. > > > > > > Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that are very > > > difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It could > very > > > well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use. The > situation > > > is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies. > Desperate > > > situations call for desperate measures. > > > > > > The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If somebody can > chant > > > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it may be > able to > > > solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a straight > back > > > and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok to get > up > > > once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down again. > > > > > > Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no magical > > > push-button kind of solutions. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Dev Kumar " <jumanji1957@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She > is > > > > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am > mentioning > > > > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy > for > > > > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close > friends. > > > > > > > > Birth Details: > > > > > > > > January 19, 1970 > > > > > > > > Time: 1:20:00 > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > > > > > > > Andheri, India > > > > > > > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of > her > > > > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > > > > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the > habit of > > > > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including > railway > > > > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought > her > > > to > > > > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is > staying > > > > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried > all > > > sorts > > > > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and > > > soothsayers. > > > > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > > > > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > > > > bringing peace in their lives! > > > > > > > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She > is > > > in > > > > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she > > > says a > > > > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > > > > > > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the > case > > > > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > > > > family! > > > > > > > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > > > > > > > Virendra > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 ---------- Forwarded message ----------Virendra Kumar <jumanji1957 Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:24 AMRe: Re: Possessed by evil spirits? Namaste Narasimha Rao Ji Pranaams. There have been sad developments at the native's end. The concerned lady was shifted to a mental asylum about 10 days back - I received this information from a third party. My friend and the lady's family is now reluctant to part with information related to her. I find myself helpless in these circumstances! I would like to expresses my gratitude and thanks for sparing time and efforts to look into her horoscope and suggest remedies.I would also like to thank other list members who have given their valuable inputs. Warm regards VirendraOn Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Namaste Virendra, I see no danger to life at this time. However, as I said, I do suspect a spirit is involved and I do believe the situation is quite serious. Luckily, Ketu-Rahu antardasa finished in June 2008. Now, Ketu-Jupiter is running. There is some chance of a good help and remedy to the problem. That gives me SOME hope. Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a priest or a pandit. Most priests have neither the jaagrut shakti nor the devotion needed. Mantras work either because an individual with jaagrut shakti quickly taps the shakti of the mantra or because the devotion slowly taps the shakti of the mantra. The first approach is rare these days. For the second approach, there is no difference between a priest and a layman! In fact, most priests are unlikely to have the same focus of mind on the goal and the same level of compassion for the suffering person as the relatives and close people. If a person without jaagrut shakti has to awaken a mantra for a specific person's benefit, there has to be a deep compassion for the suffering of the person. I honestly feel that laymen can achieve that better than priests, if they manage to sit down for hours. Things were different in the old days, when priests did tremendous penance and were a walking bundle of energy. In the changed situation of this age, my advice is always for people to do remedies themselves. That is my sincere advice. If the family or close relatives/friends cannot do anything, well, I guess then things are tough. I understand that things are difficult for the family and sitting for meditation for 4 hours everyday is tough. I know another case of spirit possession. The lady was possessed for almost 10 years!! Her family suffered so much during that time. At the end, her family was advised to recite Chandipath and do a homam everyday. They actually did it, despite the tremendous hardships. The lady is fine now. Kumaara Ganapathi mantra is for a form of Ganapathi formed with the energy of Kumara/Kartikeya/Subrahmanya (warrior god, army commander of gods). It is effective in removing the trouble from spirits. I am giving the mantra in iTrans transliteration format below. If you cut and paste in iTranslator software from Omkaranand Ashram, you can see it in Devanagari script. --------- Begin --------- OM gaM kumaara gaNapataye, OM namaH shUrapadma naasha kaaraNaaya sarvashakti dharaaya sarpa yaGYopavItanaaya mahaa pracaNDa krodhanaaya rakta kukShi dharaaya asura koTi saMhaara kaaraNaaya akhaNDa maNDalaaya devataarcita paada padmaaya shaakinii raakinii laakinii haakinii Daakinii kuuShmaaNDa bhuuta vetaaLa paishaaca brahma raakShasa duShTa grahaan naashaya naashaya, bhaarata likhita lekhinii karaaya apasmaara grahaan nivaaraya nivaaraya mardaya mardaya, guhaagrajaaya gajaasura saMharaNaaya garjita bhuuta karaaya sakala bhuuta preta pishaaca brahma raakShasaan shuulena aakR^intaya aakR^intaya chhedaya chhedaya maaraya maaraya, mahaagaNapataye umaakumaaraaya huM phaT bandha bandha DhaM glaaM glauM gaM gaNapataye swaahaa --------- End --------- Another version is OM hriiM glauM gaM gaNapataye gaM glauM hriiM Read whichever is convenient, but for 4 hours everyday. If that is tough, do it atleast for 2 hours. > I consider attributing the cause of problem to badhaka and Marankaraka > concepts as stretching the logic too far. Ketu as a malefic is not bad in > the 11th and can't cause such grave threats in the 9th in Navamsa aspected > only by Jupitor. Dear Praveen, Ketu in 11th is good, but not if 11th is badhaka sthana and there are other weaknesses. Whatever house he occupies in navamsa, Ketu is the badhaka lord in navamsa too! He is associated with badhaka sthana in rasi, navamsa and trimsamsa! What is stretching logic depends on one's understanding of what the basics are. In the charts I have seen with spirit problems, both nodes and badhaka sthana are always involved. To MY mind, attributing this result somehow to Jupiter is stretching logic, while Ketu in badhaka sthana with Gulika and in mrityu bhaga is the perfect, clear and crisp logic. What is " compact " to me looks " stretched " to you and what is compact to you looks stretched to me. Obviously, our understanding of the FUNDAMENTALS is different. :-) Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org , " Virendra Kumar " <jumanji1957 wrote: > > Namaste Narasimha Ji > Pranaams. I am completely overwhelmed by your analysis. Yes, she does have a > curse, but her current condition is THAT of a possessed individual! > > I did consider Moon's (AK) mrityu bhaga as well as MKS. In fact I was > reading Willa's 2006 west coast lecture on Saturn - the root of disease when > this case landed up. 4th house from Moon is occupied by Ketu - by Willa's > lecture 4th house from moon is body's healing abilities. Ketu may give > problems from unknown sources - like spirits and ghosts! Yes, I did consider > Ketu's proximity with Gulika and Ketu's mrityu bjaga center - however I DID > NOT consider changing the Vimsottari Dasa to the Kshema star - which gives > ruling dasa period of Ketu itself! I also considered Rahu's transit position > in her natal 4th house where AL resides. > > The first query from her brother-in-law was - " will she survive? " Her own > family have almost given up hopes and they are now planning to leave her at > an asylum - in the company of strangers! I have on my own persuaded them to > wait for a week before taking any steps and this is where I posted this case > across lists! > > Please accept my deepest gratitude for sparing your valuable time in > analyzing her chart and suggesting a remedy! Many thanks for the remedy! My > query - > > * Can a priest chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra? - am asking this because the > family cannot be expected to do it in present circumstances! > * Is the presence of the lady required during this chanting? > * Where can I download Kumaara Ganapathi Mantra? If your kind self or anyone > from this list knows an authentic Pundit in Mumbai who can do the needful, I > can persuade the family to approach him! > > Please accept my humble pranaams. > > Virendra > > > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > I see that there is a very very serious problem here. > > > > Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a Brahmana shaapa > > (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be the main > > problem and the direct cause of current affliction. > > > > IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a couple of > > degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More importantly, > > he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo for him. Each > > planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign. JHora shows > > them. > > > > Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon as usual and > > say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite being exalted, > > Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in his mrityu > > bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon is in my > > judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate Vimsottari dasa > > from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from it. > > > > Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is running Ketu > > mahadasa from 2004 to 2011. > > > > Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru sthana, > > being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite malefic. Even > > in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord Mercury. > > Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to buddhi. Most > > psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon or Mercury in > > D-30. > > > > Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that are very > > difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It could very > > well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use. The situation > > is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies. Desperate > > situations call for desperate measures. > > > > The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If somebody can chant > > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it may be able to > > solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a straight back > > and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok to get up > > once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down again. > > > > Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no magical > > push-button kind of solutions. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > sohamsa , " Dev Kumar " <jumanji1957@> wrote: > > > > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is married. She is > > > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am mentioning > > > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to suggest remedy for > > > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my close friends. > > > > > > Birth Details: > > > > > > January 19, 1970 > > > > > > Time: 1:20:00 > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 " > > > > > > Andheri, India > > > > > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the birth of her > > > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the point of > > > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in the habit of > > > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places, including railway > > > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and brought her > > to > > > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she is staying > > > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have tried all > > sorts > > > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors and > > soothsayers. > > > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are now > > > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the interest of > > > bringing peace in their lives! > > > > > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and chest! She is > > in > > > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if asked, she > > says a > > > Devi is encouraging her to do so! > > > > > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to study the case > > > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to the entire > > > family! > > > > > > Please accept my humble pranaams! > > > > > > Virendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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