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Dear friend

 

I spend what time I can from work / home (like most, I presume)

reading these lists and contributing, subject to various constraints,

wherever possible.

 

I have no close affinity with any persons in these lists, and only

referred to the IP-consistency in your case to provide some balance

to your initial statements, which were aimed at myself. I have had no

such issues elsewhere, so the question of partiality does not arise.

 

Anyhow let us not waste precious space with these deliberations.

Coming back to Jyotish, it was mentioned that dharma is seen from

navamsa. How would you differentiate between dharma and spirituality?

My understanding is that the level of dharma can be inferred from

houses/signs 1-5-9, Mars-Sun-Jupiter and navamsa. Spirituality would

fall in the remit of houses/signs 4-8-12, Moon-Mars/Ketu-Jupiter

and vimsamsa. Of course there are various caveats, but this would be

a plausible starting point.

 

What are your thoughts?

 

Thanks,

 

Maniv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sonam_jismani "

<sonam_jismani wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Maniv,

>

> You seem to be a good man who does

> not use bad language, is

> diplomatic in talks, and also

> intelligent, at times

> using proxy servers, to post

> your queries , but yet, I

> am at loss to understand, why you

> did not spend some time in looking

> up the IPs of the following which

> are all of one person only,

> Lalit Mishra.

>

> Pandit Kedarnath

> 192.8.220.8

>

> V Carolina

> 192.8.220.8

>

> Lalit Mishra

> 192.8.220.10

>

> In my case you unnecessarily linked me to

> Bhaskarjis id without any support, as though

> I am staying in his area, but my

> last mail as well as this one are coming

> around 10 kilometeres from where he stays.

>

> But in above cases you need not have to do hard

> work,as the map clearly shows the location,

> if you just spend some more time

> looking up.

>

> I had only this much time to look up

> as was free today due to half day in our

> office ( Working as Part time Journalist),

> but if you have spare time on hand, then do look

> up. You will surely find more ids

> belonging to Lalit Mishra .

>

> I assumed you to be a decent man, but am

> shocked that you could not co-relate these ids

> even though there was a big issue with this person,

> which was the cause of Bhaskarji being kicked

> out of the Forum, unceremoniously.

>

> I have some other sets ids related to each other,

> which are of few so called friends of Bhaskarji,

> but do not have his permission, to reveal the

> same.

>

> Hope you will console my doubts about your being

> unable to pin these ids, to lalit Mishra.

>

> Sonam.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " maniv_pathak "

> <maniv_pathak@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskariji

> >

> > While the forum has a little less traffic, quality, not quantity,

> is

> > of essence.

> >

> > We are witnessing a gradual return to the forum to its better

> days,

> > with learned members such as Satyaji, Satishji, MK Viswanath ji,

> > Sreeramji, Narasimhaji, Pradeepji, sharing knowledge and

> techniques.

> >

> > No one doubts your knowledge and expertise, so please do

> contribute

> > to the discussions.

> >

> > I hope that our next interaction will be based wholly on Jyotish.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > [Regarding fake IDs: Sonam `X--Post-IP 202.88.163.18' can

be

> > correlated …...]

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sonam_jismani "

> > <sonam_jismani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Folks,

> > >

> > > Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost all

> its

> > > charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure

> > astrologers

> > > and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya Sai,

> > > Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this current

> > > scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-astro

> > > members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David, Raja

> > > Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to form

> a

> > > jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

> > > astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath created

on

> > > 03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB

> > creations -

> > > Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

> > >

> > > Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge, experience, or

> > > intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that they

> > > have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this banned

> > > members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who has

> no

> > > recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of manpower

by

> > > this jealous non-astro group.

> > >

> > > Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member,

> participate ,

> > > or leave the group.

> > >

> > > I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of removing

> the

> > > Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great gift

> given

> > > to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to this

> Forum.

> > >

> > > Sonam.

> > >

> > > ??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact details.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " rpsingh2710 "

> <rpsingh2710@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was banned

> > some

> > > > time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

> > > >

> > > > I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is no

> > > reason

> > > > that it should be revoked.

> > > >

> > > > The moderator knows what is good for his group.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > RP Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , ajay mehta

<ajaymehta60@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas members

> are

> > > > colluding together in this forum and praising their non

> virtous

> > > > stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of certain

> > > > conscience members away from these forums?Why do these eunuch

> > like

> > > > kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a sad

> > > > reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed down

by

> > > these

> > > > eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope we

> > become

> > > > more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become an

> > > > obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > > > > Dr a mehta

> > > > >

> > > > > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or

> > allowed

> > > or

> > > > > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a

> monthly

> > > > average

> > > > > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e. Help

or

> > Die

> > > > emails,

> > > > > for only members could post messages in this group, with

> most

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the

other

> > > names

> > > > for I

> > > > > need to browse through the other frequent responders doing

> that

> > > > yeoman

> > > > > services.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self promotion or

> > > > > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such

> issues.

> > > > Failure

> > > > > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of

> emails

> > to

> > > be

> > > > > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of

> writing

> > > > > anything, for the same reason.

> > > > >

> > > > > The number of quality posts have also gone down since

> banning

> > of

> > > > few

> > > > > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it

> gives a

> > > > dead

> > > > > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the ones

I

> > > > started

> > > > > ??

> > > > >

> > > > > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should

also

> > > have

> > > > the

> > > > > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> > > > >

> > > > > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the old

> > > > saying......

> > > > > so good moderation in the group ensures, things & members

> > > > stay.....

> > > > > i.e. group requires members, members require group both are

> > > > > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy as

> much

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > moderation.

> > > > >

> > > > > With regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > > > > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is

done.

> > the

> > > > peace

> > > > > that

> > > > > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive. have

> you

> > > > noticed

> > > > > any

> > > > > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution was

> > > proper

> > > > and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > results are evident. so please i request you to refrain

> from

> > > > brining

> > > > > up old

> > > > > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new group

> > > dynamic.

> > > > > there is

> > > > > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really

> > > respected

> > > > and

> > > > > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers then

> they

> > > > would

> > > > > have not

> > > > > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but clearly

> the

> > > > truth is

> > > > > clear

> > > > > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct

> themselves

> > > > > properly

> > > > > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige of

> the

> > > > group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > namaskar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raja Gursahani

> > > > > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > > > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Manivpathakji,

 

This mail coming from you,was on a positive note.

 

After 2 years I may reach some levels to dicuss with people of your

rankings. At the moment I am just a student. Please excuse me. But I

am always ready to learn. Will you please educate me how to read the

Vimsamsa, taking Bhaskarjis Birth chart as the chart for discussion

( I do not need his permission for this ).

 

Luk forward to learning from your sharing.

 

regards,Sonam.

 

 

 

 

 

, " maniv_pathak "

<maniv_pathak wrote:

>

> Dear friend

>

> I spend what time I can from work / home (like most, I presume)

> reading these lists and contributing, subject to various

constraints,

> wherever possible.

>

> I have no close affinity with any persons in these lists, and only

> referred to the IP-consistency in your case to provide some

balance

> to your initial statements, which were aimed at myself. I have had

no

> such issues elsewhere, so the question of partiality does not

arise.

>

> Anyhow let us not waste precious space with these deliberations.

> Coming back to Jyotish, it was mentioned that dharma is seen from

> navamsa. How would you differentiate between dharma and

spirituality?

> My understanding is that the level of dharma can be inferred from

> houses/signs 1-5-9, Mars-Sun-Jupiter and navamsa. Spirituality

would

> fall in the remit of houses/signs 4-8-12, Moon-Mars/Ketu-Jupiter

> and vimsamsa. Of course there are various caveats, but this would

be

> a plausible starting point.

>

> What are your thoughts?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Maniv

>

>

>

>

>

, " sonam_jismani "

> <sonam_jismani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr.Maniv,

> >

> > You seem to be a good man who does

> > not use bad language, is

> > diplomatic in talks, and also

> > intelligent, at times

> > using proxy servers, to post

> > your queries , but yet, I

> > am at loss to understand, why you

> > did not spend some time in looking

> > up the IPs of the following which

> > are all of one person only,

> > Lalit Mishra.

> >

> > Pandit Kedarnath

> > 192.8.220.8

> >

> > V Carolina

> > 192.8.220.8

> >

> > Lalit Mishra

> > 192.8.220.10

> >

> > In my case you unnecessarily linked me to

> > Bhaskarjis id without any support, as though

> > I am staying in his area, but my

> > last mail as well as this one are coming

> > around 10 kilometeres from where he stays.

> >

> > But in above cases you need not have to do hard

> > work,as the map clearly shows the location,

> > if you just spend some more time

> > looking up.

> >

> > I had only this much time to look up

> > as was free today due to half day in our

> > office ( Working as Part time Journalist),

> > but if you have spare time on hand, then do look

> > up. You will surely find more ids

> > belonging to Lalit Mishra .

> >

> > I assumed you to be a decent man, but am

> > shocked that you could not co-relate these ids

> > even though there was a big issue with this person,

> > which was the cause of Bhaskarji being kicked

> > out of the Forum, unceremoniously.

> >

> > I have some other sets ids related to each other,

> > which are of few so called friends of Bhaskarji,

> > but do not have his permission, to reveal the

> > same.

> >

> > Hope you will console my doubts about your being

> > unable to pin these ids, to lalit Mishra.

> >

> > Sonam.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " maniv_pathak "

> > <maniv_pathak@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskariji

> > >

> > > While the forum has a little less traffic, quality, not

quantity,

> > is

> > > of essence.

> > >

> > > We are witnessing a gradual return to the forum to its better

> > days,

> > > with learned members such as Satyaji, Satishji, MK Viswanath

ji,

> > > Sreeramji, Narasimhaji, Pradeepji, sharing knowledge and

> > techniques.

> > >

> > > No one doubts your knowledge and expertise, so please do

> > contribute

> > > to the discussions.

> > >

> > > I hope that our next interaction will be based wholly on

Jyotish.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> > > [Regarding fake IDs: Sonam `X--Post-IP 202.88.163.18'

can

> be

> > > correlated …...]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " sonam_jismani "

> > > <sonam_jismani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Folks,

> > > >

> > > > Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost

all

> > its

> > > > charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure

> > > astrologers

> > > > and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya

Sai,

> > > > Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this

current

> > > > scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-

astro

> > > > members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David, Raja

> > > > Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to

form

> > a

> > > > jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

> > > > astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath

created

> on

> > > > 03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB

> > > creations -

> > > > Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

> > > >

> > > > Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge, experience,

or

> > > > intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that

they

> > > > have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this

banned

> > > > members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who

has

> > no

> > > > recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of

manpower

> by

> > > > this jealous non-astro group.

> > > >

> > > > Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member,

> > participate ,

> > > > or leave the group.

> > > >

> > > > I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of

removing

> > the

> > > > Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great

gift

> > given

> > > > to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to this

> > Forum.

> > > >

> > > > Sonam.

> > > >

> > > > ??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact

details.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " rpsingh2710 "

> > <rpsingh2710@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was

banned

> > > some

> > > > > time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

> > > > >

> > > > > I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is

no

> > > > reason

> > > > > that it should be revoked.

> > > > >

> > > > > The moderator knows what is good for his group.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > RP Singh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , ajay mehta

> <ajaymehta60@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas

members

> > are

> > > > > colluding together in this forum and praising their non

> > virtous

> > > > > stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of

certain

> > > > > conscience members away from these forums?Why do these

eunuch

> > > like

> > > > > kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a

sad

> > > > > reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed

down

> by

> > > > these

> > > > > eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope

we

> > > become

> > > > > more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become

an

> > > > > obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > > > > > Dr a mehta

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or

> > > allowed

> > > > or

> > > > > > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a

> > monthly

> > > > > average

> > > > > > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e.

Help

> or

> > > Die

> > > > > emails,

> > > > > > for only members could post messages in this group, with

> > most

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the

> other

> > > > names

> > > > > for I

> > > > > > need to browse through the other frequent responders

doing

> > that

> > > > > yeoman

> > > > > > services.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self

promotion or

> > > > > > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such

> > issues.

> > > > > Failure

> > > > > > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of

> > emails

> > > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of

> > writing

> > > > > > anything, for the same reason.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The number of quality posts have also gone down since

> > banning

> > > of

> > > > > few

> > > > > > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it

> > gives a

> > > > > dead

> > > > > > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the

ones

> I

> > > > > started

> > > > > > ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should

> also

> > > > have

> > > > > the

> > > > > > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the

old

> > > > > saying......

> > > > > > so good moderation in the group ensures, things &

members

> > > > > stay.....

> > > > > > i.e. group requires members, members require group both

are

> > > > > > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy

as

> > much

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > moderation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > > > > > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is

> done.

> > > the

> > > > > peace

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive.

have

> > you

> > > > > noticed

> > > > > > any

> > > > > > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution

was

> > > > proper

> > > > > and

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > results are evident. so please i request you to

refrain

> > from

> > > > > brining

> > > > > > up old

> > > > > > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new

group

> > > > dynamic.

> > > > > > there is

> > > > > > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really

> > > > respected

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers

then

> > they

> > > > > would

> > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but

clearly

> > the

> > > > > truth is

> > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct

> > themselves

> > > > > > properly

> > > > > > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige

of

> > the

> > > > > group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > namaskar,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

________

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Raja Gursahani

> > > > > > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > > > > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear friend

 

Like yourself, I am also a student of this vast subject and it would

be highly inappropriate for me to take the stance of 'educating'.

 

I was merely seeking verification on the validity of my understanding

of the difference between dharma and spirituality, and how this

relates to jyotish.

 

Apologies for any misconceptions that may have arisen due to the

ambiguity of my message.

 

Thanks,

 

Maniv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sonam_jismani "

<sonam_jismani wrote:

>

> Dear Manivpathakji,

>

> This mail coming from you,was on a positive note.

>

> After 2 years I may reach some levels to dicuss with people of your

> rankings. At the moment I am just a student. Please excuse me. But

I

> am always ready to learn. Will you please educate me how to read

the

> Vimsamsa, taking Bhaskarjis Birth chart as the chart for discussion

> ( I do not need his permission for this ).

>

> Luk forward to learning from your sharing.

>

> regards,Sonam.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " maniv_pathak "

> <maniv_pathak@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friend

> >

> > I spend what time I can from work / home (like most, I presume)

> > reading these lists and contributing, subject to various

> constraints,

> > wherever possible.

> >

> > I have no close affinity with any persons in these lists, and

only

> > referred to the IP-consistency in your case to provide some

> balance

> > to your initial statements, which were aimed at myself. I have

had

> no

> > such issues elsewhere, so the question of partiality does not

> arise.

> >

> > Anyhow let us not waste precious space with these deliberations.

> > Coming back to Jyotish, it was mentioned that dharma is seen from

> > navamsa. How would you differentiate between dharma and

> spirituality?

> > My understanding is that the level of dharma can be inferred from

> > houses/signs 1-5-9, Mars-Sun-Jupiter and navamsa. Spirituality

> would

> > fall in the remit of houses/signs 4-8-12, Moon-Mars/Ketu-

Jupiter

> > and vimsamsa. Of course there are various caveats, but this would

> be

> > a plausible starting point.

> >

> > What are your thoughts?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sonam_jismani "

> > <sonam_jismani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Maniv,

> > >

> > > You seem to be a good man who does

> > > not use bad language, is

> > > diplomatic in talks, and also

> > > intelligent, at times

> > > using proxy servers, to post

> > > your queries , but yet, I

> > > am at loss to understand, why you

> > > did not spend some time in looking

> > > up the IPs of the following which

> > > are all of one person only,

> > > Lalit Mishra.

> > >

> > > Pandit Kedarnath

> > > 192.8.220.8

> > >

> > > V Carolina

> > > 192.8.220.8

> > >

> > > Lalit Mishra

> > > 192.8.220.10

> > >

> > > In my case you unnecessarily linked me to

> > > Bhaskarjis id without any support, as though

> > > I am staying in his area, but my

> > > last mail as well as this one are coming

> > > around 10 kilometeres from where he stays.

> > >

> > > But in above cases you need not have to do hard

> > > work,as the map clearly shows the location,

> > > if you just spend some more time

> > > looking up.

> > >

> > > I had only this much time to look up

> > > as was free today due to half day in our

> > > office ( Working as Part time Journalist),

> > > but if you have spare time on hand, then do look

> > > up. You will surely find more ids

> > > belonging to Lalit Mishra .

> > >

> > > I assumed you to be a decent man, but am

> > > shocked that you could not co-relate these ids

> > > even though there was a big issue with this person,

> > > which was the cause of Bhaskarji being kicked

> > > out of the Forum, unceremoniously.

> > >

> > > I have some other sets ids related to each other,

> > > which are of few so called friends of Bhaskarji,

> > > but do not have his permission, to reveal the

> > > same.

> > >

> > > Hope you will console my doubts about your being

> > > unable to pin these ids, to lalit Mishra.

> > >

> > > Sonam.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " maniv_pathak "

> > > <maniv_pathak@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskariji

> > > >

> > > > While the forum has a little less traffic, quality, not

> quantity,

> > > is

> > > > of essence.

> > > >

> > > > We are witnessing a gradual return to the forum to its better

> > > days,

> > > > with learned members such as Satyaji, Satishji, MK Viswanath

> ji,

> > > > Sreeramji, Narasimhaji, Pradeepji, sharing knowledge and

> > > techniques.

> > > >

> > > > No one doubts your knowledge and expertise, so please do

> > > contribute

> > > > to the discussions.

> > > >

> > > > I hope that our next interaction will be based wholly on

> Jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Maniv

> > > >

> > > > [Regarding fake IDs: Sonam `X--Post-IP 202.88.163.18'

> can

> > be

> > > > correlated …...]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " sonam_jismani "

> > > > <sonam_jismani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Folks,

> > > > >

> > > > > Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost

> all

> > > its

> > > > > charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure

> > > > astrologers

> > > > > and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya

> Sai,

> > > > > Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this

> current

> > > > > scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-

> astro

> > > > > members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David,

Raja

> > > > > Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to

> form

> > > a

> > > > > jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

> > > > > astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath

> created

> > on

> > > > > 03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB

> > > > creations -

> > > > > Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

> > > > >

> > > > > Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge,

experience,

> or

> > > > > intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that

> they

> > > > > have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this

> banned

> > > > > members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who

> has

> > > no

> > > > > recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of

> manpower

> > by

> > > > > this jealous non-astro group.

> > > > >

> > > > > Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member,

> > > participate ,

> > > > > or leave the group.

> > > > >

> > > > > I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of

> removing

> > > the

> > > > > Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great

> gift

> > > given

> > > > > to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to

this

> > > Forum.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sonam.

> > > > >

> > > > > ??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact

> details.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rpsingh2710 "

> > > <rpsingh2710@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was

> banned

> > > > some

> > > > > > time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is

> no

> > > > > reason

> > > > > > that it should be revoked.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The moderator knows what is good for his group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RP Singh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , ajay mehta

> > <ajaymehta60@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas

> members

> > > are

> > > > > > colluding together in this forum and praising their non

> > > virtous

> > > > > > stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of

> certain

> > > > > > conscience members away from these forums?Why do these

> eunuch

> > > > like

> > > > > > kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a

> sad

> > > > > > reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed

> down

> > by

> > > > > these

> > > > > > eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope

> we

> > > > become

> > > > > > more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become

> an

> > > > > > obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > > > > > > Dr a mehta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added

or

> > > > allowed

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a

> > > monthly

> > > > > > average

> > > > > > > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e.

> Help

> > or

> > > > Die

> > > > > > emails,

> > > > > > > for only members could post messages in this group,

with

> > > most

> > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the

> > other

> > > > > names

> > > > > > for I

> > > > > > > need to browse through the other frequent responders

> doing

> > > that

> > > > > > yeoman

> > > > > > > services.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self

> promotion or

> > > > > > > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such

> > > issues.

> > > > > > Failure

> > > > > > > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of

> > > emails

> > > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus

of

> > > writing

> > > > > > > anything, for the same reason.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The number of quality posts have also gone down since

> > > banning

> > > > of

> > > > > > few

> > > > > > > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it

> > > gives a

> > > > > > dead

> > > > > > > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the

> ones

> > I

> > > > > > started

> > > > > > > ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should

> > also

> > > > > have

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the

> old

> > > > > > saying......

> > > > > > > so good moderation in the group ensures, things &

> members

> > > > > > stay.....

> > > > > > > i.e. group requires members, members require group both

> are

> > > > > > > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy

> as

> > > much

> > > > > as

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > moderation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > > > > > > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is

> > done.

> > > > the

> > > > > > peace

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive.

> have

> > > you

> > > > > > noticed

> > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution

> was

> > > > > proper

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > results are evident. so please i request you to

> refrain

> > > from

> > > > > > brining

> > > > > > > up old

> > > > > > > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new

> group

> > > > > dynamic.

> > > > > > > there is

> > > > > > > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people

really

> > > > > respected

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers

> then

> > > they

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but

> clearly

> > > the

> > > > > > truth is

> > > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct

> > > themselves

> > > > > > > properly

> > > > > > > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > group.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > namaskar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> ________

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Raja Gursahani

> > > > > > > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > > > > > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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