Shri Bhaskar Stay's or Not in this forum

April 15, 2008

Dear Members,

Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was banned some

time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is no reason

that it should be revoked.

The moderator knows what is good for his group.

Sincerely,

RP Singh

, ajay mehta <ajaymehta60

wrote:

>

> Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas members are

colluding together in this forum and praising their non virtous

stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of certain

conscience members away from these forums?Why do these eunuch like

kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a sad

reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed down by these

eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope we become

more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become an

obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> Dr a mehta

>

> sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or allowed or

> pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a monthly

average

> of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e. Help or Die

emails,

> for only members could post messages in this group, with most of

the

> answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the other names

for I

> need to browse through the other frequent responders doing that

yeoman

> services.

>

> It is immaterial if they were doing it for self promotion or

> humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such issues.

Failure

> of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of emails to be

> posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of writing

> anything, for the same reason.

>

> The number of quality posts have also gone down since banning of

few

> members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it gives a

dead

> feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the ones I

started

> ??

>

> If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should also have

the

> strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

>

> For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the old

saying......

> so good moderation in the group ensures, things & members

stay.....

> i.e. group requires members, members require group both are

> supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy as much as

a

> moderation.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

> , " Raja Gursahani "

> <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> >

> > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is done. the

peace

> that

> > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive. have you

noticed

> any

> > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution was proper

and

> the

> > results are evident. so please i request you to refrain from

brining

> up old

> > baggage and that let us move forward with this new group dynamic.

> there is

> > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really respected

and

> > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers then they

would

> have not

> > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but clearly the

truth is

> clear

> > that this group is superb and those who can conduct themselves

> properly

> > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige of the

group.

> >

> > namaskar,

> >

> > ________

> >

> > Raja Gursahani

> > (: 559.474.8576

> > ,: rajagursahani@

> >

April 15, 2008

Hi Folks,

Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost all its

charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure astrologers

and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya Sai,

Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this current

scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-astro

members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David, Raja

Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to form a

jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath created on

03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB creations -

Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge, experience, or

intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that they

have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this banned

members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who has no

recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of manpower by

this jealous non-astro group.

Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member, participate ,

or leave the group.

I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of removing the

Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great gift given

to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to this Forum.

Sonam.

??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact details.

, " rpsingh2710 " <rpsingh2710

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was banned some

> time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

>

> I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is no

reason

> that it should be revoked.

>

> The moderator knows what is good for his group.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> RP Singh

>

, ajay mehta <ajaymehta60@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas members are

> colluding together in this forum and praising their non virtous

> stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of certain

> conscience members away from these forums?Why do these eunuch like

> kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a sad

> reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed down by

these

> eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope we become

> more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become an

> obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > Dr a mehta

> >

> > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or allowed

or

> > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a monthly

> average

> > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e. Help or Die

> emails,

> > for only members could post messages in this group, with most of

> the

> > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the other

names

> for I

> > need to browse through the other frequent responders doing that

> yeoman

> > services.

> >

> > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self promotion or

> > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such issues.

> Failure

> > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of emails to

be

> > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of writing

> > anything, for the same reason.

> >

> > The number of quality posts have also gone down since banning of

> few

> > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it gives a

> dead

> > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the ones I

> started

> > ??

> >

> > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should also

have

> the

> > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> >

> > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the old

> saying......

> > so good moderation in the group ensures, things & members

> stay.....

> > i.e. group requires members, members require group both are

> > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy as much

as

> a

> > moderation.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Sreeram_Srinivas

> >

> > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is done. the

> peace

> > that

> > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive. have you

> noticed

> > any

> > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution was

proper

> and

> > the

> > > results are evident. so please i request you to refrain from

> brining

> > up old

> > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new group

dynamic.

> > there is

> > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really

respected

> and

> > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers then they

> would

> > have not

> > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but clearly the

> truth is

> > clear

> > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct themselves

> > properly

> > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige of the

> group.

> > >

> > > namaskar,

> > >

> > > ________

> > >

> > > Raja Gursahani

> > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > >

April 15, 2008

Mr.Satya Sai a truly learned person is paticipating with

great zeal in Jyotish Group till now and this Group now

is feeling cool wave really.Bhasker has deep knowledge

of abusing or to use dirty words.If one other astrologer

gives advise to one,his first reaction will be " You do not

know astrology. " He is higly frustrated & " MADAANDH "

person so he needs relax & his ban should be continue

so that he may get recovered and can do self realisation.

I am not sure but i presume that he has banned on JR too.

Where he was indulging with other senior astrologer

Mr.Prashant last days.He is a cronic case.

Ratnaakar

sonam_jismani <sonam_jismani wrote:

Hi Folks,

Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost all its

charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure astrologers

and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya Sai,

Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this current

scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-astro

members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David, Raja

Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to form a

jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath created on

03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB creations -

Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge, experience, or

intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that they

have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this banned

members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who has no

recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of manpower by

this jealous non-astro group.

Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member, participate ,

or leave the group.

I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of removing the

Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great gift given

to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to this Forum.

Sonam.

??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact details.

, " rpsingh2710 "

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was banned some

> time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

>

> I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is no

reason

> that it should be revoked.

>

> The moderator knows what is good for his group.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> RP Singh

>

, ajay mehta

> wrote:

> >

> > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas members are

> colluding together in this forum and praising their non virtous

> stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of certain

> conscience members away from these forums?Why do these eunuch like

> kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a sad

> reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed down by

these

> eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope we become

> more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become an

> obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > Dr a mehta

> >

> > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or allowed

or

> > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a monthly

> average

> > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e. Help or Die

> emails,

> > for only members could post messages in this group, with most of

> the

> > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the other

names

> for I

> > need to browse through the other frequent responders doing that

> yeoman

> > services.

> >

> > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self promotion or

> > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such issues.

> Failure

> > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of emails to

be

> > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of writing

> > anything, for the same reason.

> >

> > The number of quality posts have also gone down since banning of

> few

> > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it gives a

> dead

> > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the ones I

> started

> > ??

> >

> > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should also

have

> the

> > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> >

> > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the old

> saying......

> > so good moderation in the group ensures, things & members

> stay.....

> > i.e. group requires members, members require group both are

> > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy as much

as

> a

> > moderation.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Sreeram_Srinivas

> >

> > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is done. the

> peace

> > that

> > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive. have you

> noticed

> > any

> > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution was

proper

> and

> > the

> > > results are evident. so please i request you to refrain from

> brining

> > up old

> > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new group

dynamic.

> > there is

> > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really

respected

> and

> > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers then they

> would

> > have not

> > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but clearly the

> truth is

> > clear

> > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct themselves

> > properly

> > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige of the

> group.

> > >

> > > namaskar,

> > >

> > > ________

> > >

> > > Raja Gursahani

> > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > >

April 15, 2008

Agreed that he has deep knowledge of abusive language, but I am

aware of what is happenning here in this and similiar groups. He has

never voluntarily used any such abusive words, unless he has been

forced to, which you may be well aware, as you seem to have deep

knowledge of Bhaskar. He has tried to cut the swrod with the sword.

This abuse is in return of the injustice meted out to him, and is

validated and accepted, due to the conspiracy brought in by you..

About you, the less said the better, you preach spirituality

but criticise most vehemntly. You have just showed samples of your

misplaced mind, by the wordings of your mail, which is a form of

refined abuse, but nevertheless abuse it is, still.

We are all cognizant that Mr.Satya Sai a truly learned person and do

not need your signature for same. We are also alert about your

creating differences between the members and the British

policy implemented, of divde and rule, through your group of ids.

About mr. Bhaskar whether he has fallen victim to your conspiracy in

Jyotish remedies too, just like You have succeded here, we will have

to wait and see, as no news forthcoming, or maybe you know better ?

Before leaving, it is advised to you, to check your own

frustrations, and self -realize yourself first, before trying to

make students here.

Sonam.

, Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan

wrote:

>

> Mr.Satya Sai a truly learned person is paticipating with

> great zeal in Jyotish Group till now and this Group now

> is feeling cool wave really.Bhasker has deep knowledge

> of abusing or to use dirty words.If one other astrologer

> gives advise to one,his first reaction will be " You do not

> know astrology. " He is higly frustrated & " MADAANDH "

> person so he needs relax & his ban should be continue

> so that he may get recovered and can do self realisation.

> I am not sure but i presume that he has banned on JR too.

> Where he was indulging with other senior astrologer

> Mr.Prashant last days.He is a cronic case.

>

> Ratnaakar

>

> sonam_jismani <sonam_jismani wrote:

> Hi Folks,

>

> Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost all its

> charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure

astrologers

> and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya Sai,

> Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this current

> scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-astro

> members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David, Raja

> Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to form a

> jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

> astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath created on

> 03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB

creations -

> Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

>

> Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge, experience, or

> intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that they

> have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this banned

> members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who has no

> recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of manpower by

> this jealous non-astro group.

>

> Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member, participate ,

> or leave the group.

>

> I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of removing

the

> Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great gift

given

> to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to this

Forum.

>

> Sonam.

>

> ??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact details.

, " rpsingh2710 "

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was banned

some

> > time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

> >

> > I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is no

> reason

> > that it should be revoked.

> >

> > The moderator knows what is good for his group.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > RP Singh

> >

> > , ajay mehta

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas members

are

> > colluding together in this forum and praising their non virtous

> > stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of certain

> > conscience members away from these forums?Why do these eunuch

like

> > kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a sad

> > reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed down by

> these

> > eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope we

become

> > more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become an

> > obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > > Dr a mehta

> > >

> > > sreeram srinivas wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or

allowed

> or

> > > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a

monthly

> > average

> > > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e. Help or

Die

> > emails,

> > > for only members could post messages in this group, with most

of

> > the

> > > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the other

> names

> > for I

> > > need to browse through the other frequent responders doing

that

> > yeoman

> > > services.

> > >

> > > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self promotion or

> > > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such issues.

> > Failure

> > > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of emails

to

> be

> > > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of

writing

> > > anything, for the same reason.

> > >

> > > The number of quality posts have also gone down since banning

of

> > few

> > > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it gives

a

> > dead

> > > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the ones I

> > started

> > > ??

> > >

> > > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should also

> have

> > the

> > > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> > >

> > > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the old

> > saying......

> > > so good moderation in the group ensures, things & members

> > stay.....

> > > i.e. group requires members, members require group both are

> > > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy as

much

> as

> > a

> > > moderation.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > >

> > > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is done.

the

> > peace

> > > that

> > > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive. have

you

> > noticed

> > > any

> > > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution was

> proper

> > and

> > > the

> > > > results are evident. so please i request you to refrain from

> > brining

> > > up old

> > > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new group

> dynamic.

> > > there is

> > > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really

> respected

> > and

> > > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers then

they

> > would

> > > have not

> > > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but clearly the

> > truth is

> > > clear

> > > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct

themselves

> > > properly

> > > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige of the

> > group.

> > > >

> > > > namaskar,

> > > >

> > > > ________

> > > >

> > > > Raja Gursahani

> > > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > > >

April 15, 2008

Dear Bhaskariji

While the forum has a little less traffic, quality, not quantity, is

of essence.

We are witnessing a gradual return to the forum to its better days,

with learned members such as Satyaji, Satishji, MK Viswanath ji,

Sreeramji, Narasimhaji, Pradeepji, sharing knowledge and techniques.

No one doubts your knowledge and expertise, so please do contribute

to the discussions.

I hope that our next interaction will be based wholly on Jyotish.

Best wishes,

Maniv

[Regarding fake IDs: Sonam `X--Post-IP 202.88.163.18' can be

correlated …...]

, " sonam_jismani "

<sonam_jismani wrote:

>

> Hi Folks,

>

> Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost all its

> charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure

astrologers

> and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya Sai,

> Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this current

> scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-astro

> members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David, Raja

> Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to form a

> jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

> astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath created on

> 03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB

creations -

> Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

>

> Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge, experience, or

> intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that they

> have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this banned

> members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who has no

> recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of manpower by

> this jealous non-astro group.

>

> Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member, participate ,

> or leave the group.

>

> I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of removing the

> Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great gift given

> to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to this Forum.

>

> Sonam.

>

> ??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact details.

, " rpsingh2710 " <rpsingh2710@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was banned

some

> > time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

> >

> > I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is no

> reason

> > that it should be revoked.

> >

> > The moderator knows what is good for his group.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > RP Singh

> >

> > , ajay mehta <ajaymehta60@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas members are

> > colluding together in this forum and praising their non virtous

> > stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of certain

> > conscience members away from these forums?Why do these eunuch

like

> > kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a sad

> > reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed down by

> these

> > eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope we

become

> > more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become an

> > obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > > Dr a mehta

> > >

> > > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or

allowed

> or

> > > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a monthly

> > average

> > > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e. Help or

Die

> > emails,

> > > for only members could post messages in this group, with most

of

> > the

> > > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the other

> names

> > for I

> > > need to browse through the other frequent responders doing that

> > yeoman

> > > services.

> > >

> > > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self promotion or

> > > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such issues.

> > Failure

> > > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of emails

to

> be

> > > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of writing

> > > anything, for the same reason.

> > >

> > > The number of quality posts have also gone down since banning

of

> > few

> > > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it gives a

> > dead

> > > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the ones I

> > started

> > > ??

> > >

> > > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should also

> have

> > the

> > > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> > >

> > > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the old

> > saying......

> > > so good moderation in the group ensures, things & members

> > stay.....

> > > i.e. group requires members, members require group both are

> > > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy as much

> as

> > a

> > > moderation.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > >

> > > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is done.

the

> > peace

> > > that

> > > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive. have you

> > noticed

> > > any

> > > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution was

> proper

> > and

> > > the

> > > > results are evident. so please i request you to refrain from

> > brining

> > > up old

> > > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new group

> dynamic.

> > > there is

> > > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really

> respected

> > and

> > > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers then they

> > would

> > > have not

> > > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but clearly the

> > truth is

> > > clear

> > > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct themselves

> > > properly

> > > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige of the

> > group.

> > > >

> > > > namaskar,

> > > >

> > > > ________

> > > >

> > > > Raja Gursahani

> > > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > > >

April 15, 2008

Maniv ,

202.88.163.18

Ip is Server Code belonging to the company where

there are 3 million account holders in Bombay.

Can you throw some light, how you can

connect my Id to Bhaskarji ?

One can only know that this id is from Bombay.

But you cannot pin it to actual individual.

Please share freely.

Also be kind enough to make such co-relations of ids with

the other members too. The Forum needs such expertise.

Sonam.

, " maniv_pathak "

<maniv_pathak wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskariji

>

> While the forum has a little less traffic, quality, not quantity,

is

> of essence.

>

> We are witnessing a gradual return to the forum to its better

days,

> with learned members such as Satyaji, Satishji, MK Viswanath ji,

> Sreeramji, Narasimhaji, Pradeepji, sharing knowledge and

techniques.

>

> No one doubts your knowledge and expertise, so please do

contribute

> to the discussions.

>

> I hope that our next interaction will be based wholly on Jyotish.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Maniv

>

> [Regarding fake IDs: Sonam `X--Post-IP 202.88.163.18' can be

> correlated …...]

>

> , " sonam_jismani "

> <sonam_jismani@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Folks,

> >

> > Interesting to take note, the fact that the Forum has lost all

its

> > charm and exuberance, by the ouster of one man. The Pure

> astrologers

> > and actual real Living members like Sreeniwas, Gopu, Satya Sai,

> > Krishna,and Sunil Nair would not be comfortable in this current

> > scenario to talk jyotish or share, because other fake non-astro

> > members like Namra Nivedan (???),RP Singh (???), David, Raja

> > Gursani, Maniv Pathak (???) , Chandrika (???), who seem to form

a

> > jealous group, are now aiding the Non Living fake ids like

> > astro.stdcaro created on 03/28/2008, pt.kedarnath created on

> > 03/28/2008 , not_astro created on 04/10/2008, Prashant GB

> creations -

> > Innumerable ids ( Only the Lord knows how many ).

> >

> > Now this group has no Jyotish content,knowledge, experience, or

> > intent to share, but are so much enamoured by Bhaskar, that they

> > have only one common issue to ponder over, even in this banned

> > members absence, to refer on and on, about the member, who has

no

> > recourse to get back at them. A great show indeed of manpower by

> > this jealous non-astro group.

> >

> > Am not sure whether i should remain a silent member,

participate ,

> > or leave the group.

> >

> > I congratulate the Moderator for his auspicious act of removing

the

> > Member in question , on the eve of Rama Navami,. A great gift

given

> > to the member in question, Bhaskar, for his services to this

Forum.

> >

> > Sonam.

> >

> > ??? refers to unidentified ids with no name or contact details.

> >

> > , " rpsingh2710 "

<rpsingh2710@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Mr. Bhaskar is no longer a member of the group. He was banned

> some

> > > time back. There has been peace in the group since then.

> > >

> > > I personally feel that the Ban should continue. There is no

> > reason

> > > that it should be revoked.

> > >

> > > The moderator knows what is good for his group.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > RP Singh

> > >

> > > , ajay mehta <ajaymehta60@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respctd Srinivas ji. Dont u feel that Kaurava senas members

are

> > > colluding together in this forum and praising their non

virtous

> > > stand of keeping some learned, truly helpful and of certain

> > > conscience members away from these forums?Why do these eunuch

> like

> > > kaurava sena members move or act only in herd?Is it not a sad

> > > reflection of how this divine knowledge has been cowed down by

> > these

> > > eunuch like members of society from time immemorial?Hope we

> become

> > > more mature in thought and deed and atleast donot become an

> > > obstructionist in spreading of this divine science.

> > > > Dr a mehta

> > > >

> > > > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > This group has 963 members, new members are NOT added or

> allowed

> > or

> > > > pending approval by Moderator for his own reasons. On a

monthly

> > > average

> > > > of 500 mails, 85% of them were reading requests i.e. Help or

> Die

> > > emails,

> > > > for only members could post messages in this group, with

most

> of

> > > the

> > > > answers were given by Mr. Bhaskar..... do NOT know the other

> > names

> > > for I

> > > > need to browse through the other frequent responders doing

that

> > > yeoman

> > > > services.

> > > >

> > > > It is immaterial if they were doing it for self promotion or

> > > > humanitarian reasons. I would like to delve into such

issues.

> > > Failure

> > > > of proper moderation in the group lead to all sorts of

emails

> to

> > be

> > > > posted in this group. Second, members got the impetus of

writing

> > > > anything, for the same reason.

> > > >

> > > > The number of quality posts have also gone down since

banning

> of

> > > few

> > > > members. Yes there is calm now in the group, so does it

gives a

> > > dead

> > > > feeling ?? !! Haven't seen any new threads except the ones I

> > > started

> > > > ??

> > > >

> > > > If somebody feels banning is one solid solution, should also

> > have

> > > the

> > > > strength to keep alive the group with their postings.

> > > >

> > > > For want of horse shoe, the war was lost......goes the old

> > > saying......

> > > > so good moderation in the group ensures, things & members

> > > stay.....

> > > > i.e. group requires members, members require group both are

> > > > supplementary,....banning is not a solution or a remedy as

much

> > as

> > > a

> > > > moderation.

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > > >

> > > > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > > > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Please leave this topic alone. what has been done is done.

> the

> > > peace

> > > > that

> > > > > has ensued as a result of the ban has been positive. have

you

> > > noticed

> > > > any

> > > > > problems after the ban. there are none. the solution was

> > proper

> > > and

> > > > the

> > > > > results are evident. so please i request you to refrain

from

> > > brining

> > > > up old

> > > > > baggage and that let us move forward with this new group

> > dynamic.

> > > > there is

> > > > > no reason for removing the ban. if those people really

> > respected

> > > and

> > > > > cherished this highly advanced group of astrologers then

they

> > > would

> > > > have not

> > > > > allowed themselves to fall for such behavior but clearly

the

> > > truth is

> > > > clear

> > > > > that this group is superb and those who can conduct

themselves

> > > > properly

> > > > > deserve to stay in the group and ensure the prestige of

the

> > > group.

> > > > >

> > > > > namaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > ________

> > > > >

> > > > > Raja Gursahani

> > > > > (: 559.474.8576

> > > > > ,: rajagursahani@

> > > > >

April 15, 2008

Dear Bhaskar alias Sonam,

Your sheer anxiety & language removed your " BURKA " .Ok,you are

habitual to have fake ID's but i am not bothered.What is my interest to

create diffferences? While i do not know a single person personally

either you or Lalit or others.Why should i be frustrated too?I nevere

claimed,i am a good astrologer.I am just learner,i do try to remove

my confusions to ask senior astrologers like Sh.Narsimha ji or Satya

ji frequently.Give peace to your mind and take rest for one or two months

improve astrological knowledge & join behaviour therapy course otherwise

i am afraid,you are going towards madness.Your symptoms are not good.

I am not interested in professional astorlogy or in forming any Group at all.