Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Dear Members, I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Namaste Sir, I wish this lady a happy birthday! I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical appearance and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the environments under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the marital and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa is the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment is seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show the career primarily. The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination in the 10th house in D-10 is the key. The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who provides comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this is secondary and the above combination sets the tone. The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be successful and make good money. In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in the zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to it. This can also show some undesirable work. * * * There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, Yama, Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical directions. They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful position and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni cooks grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling deities give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved in D-10. In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa rulers " tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get the popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other bodies. * * * If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent in the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected or otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes fear, adharma and disorder. On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other shady and disrespected areas etc. The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are both in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti and arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in shady ways and make money in shady ways. * * * In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana must exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the point so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. * * * Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions and relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows sexual relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and religious relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in D-10) and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with foreigners in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is in Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual relationships. * * * Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few points. Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key points IMHO. Best regards, Narasimha Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Shri Rao ji, Namaste.. A well written and beautifully explained article.. It is very much appreciated. Could you please explain the significance of other amsa eg of D-9 charts too. Many thanks warmest regards Sheevani warmest regards , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste Sir, > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical appearance and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the environments under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the marital and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa is the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment is seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show the career primarily. > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination in the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who provides comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this is secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be successful and make good money. > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in the zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to it. This can also show some undesirable work. > > * * * > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, Yama, Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical directions. They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful position and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni cooks grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling deities give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved in D-10. > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa rulers " tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get the popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other bodies. > > * * * > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent in the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected or otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes fear, adharma and disorder. > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other shady and disrespected areas etc. > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are both in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti and arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in shady ways and make money in shady ways. > > * * * > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana must exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the point so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > * * * > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions and relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows sexual relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and religious relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in D-10) and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with foreigners in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is in Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual relationships. > > * * * > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few points. Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key points IMHO. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Namaste PVR ji, I like you would prefer to be addressed in first name with NO titles attached.... I am convinced of the use of deities in amsa analysis, for our vedic sciences are intricately cloaked with our mythological figures, which normal astrologers of modern generation lack this firm footing in tradition. In Northern India, keeping any book on Mahabharat is supposed to cause Mahabharat in the house !!! While Ramayana is accepted for it causes less problems ...being Maryada Purushottam....who does NOT like a disciplined children or family....!!! Whereas in Andhra, we are " born " with knowledge of Bhagavatam & Mahabharatam. It was a nice analysis. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Please read Mr. Sanjay Rath's article " Dharma falling " sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Members, I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear PVR ji, The natal chart must show indications of the profession {flesh trade}, which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there is no such connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which is given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of natal & navamsa ?? Would request thoughts on this. with regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste Sir, > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical appearance and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the environments under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the marital and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa is the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment is seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show the career primarily. > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination in the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who provides comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this is secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be successful and make good money. > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in the zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to it. This can also show some undesirable work. > > * * * > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, Yama, Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical directions. They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful position and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni cooks grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling deities give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved in D-10. > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa rulers " tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get the popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other bodies. > > * * * > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent in the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected or otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes fear, adharma and disorder. > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other shady and disrespected areas etc. > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are both in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti and arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in shady ways and make money in shady ways. > > * * * > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana must exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the point so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > * * * > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions and relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows sexual relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and religious relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in D-10) and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with foreigners in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is in Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual relationships. > > * * * > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few points. Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key points IMHO. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Namaste, > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which is > given max. ONE point. The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of various areas of life in one's life. Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to review the performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, commitment etc). They may give different weights to the performance measured in different areas and combine all the scores in various areas using those weights to come up with one single final score to measure the overall performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may have a lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more important by the company. However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly look at the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to discipline is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that does not matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what is important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline is low on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall score or the productivity score or communication skills score to judge one's discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge discipline. Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means career or education or spirituality are considered less important in the overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, refer to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on which area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various charts in the vimsopaka bala scheme. * * * In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most relevant. As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of 20.0). Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher than rasi and navamsa combined! Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and dharmik matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, spirituality in D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding shashtyamsa (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can NOT, unless the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 minutes in D-60. The other night, some people were brought to my house by a priest I respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the same rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably different personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the times to be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based just on D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed that astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets born so closely. Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some hints from tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, may be faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is a vital chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish Jyotisha as a science. We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases because the birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling oneself if one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate data, unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. Best regards, Narasimha Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear PVR ji, > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession {flesh trade}, > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there is no such > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which is > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of natal & > navamsa ?? > > Would request thoughts on this. > > with regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical appearance > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the environments > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the marital > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa is > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment is > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show the > career primarily. > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination in > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who provides > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this is > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > successful and make good money. > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in the > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to it. > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > * * * > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, Yama, > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical directions. > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful position > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or > someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni cooks > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling deities > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved in > D-10. > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa rulers " > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get the > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other bodies. > > > > * * * > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent in > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected or > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes fear, > adharma and disorder. > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets in > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other shady > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are both > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti and > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in shady > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > * * * > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana must > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the point > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > * * * > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions and > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows sexual > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and religious > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in D-10) > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with foreigners > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is in > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual relationships. > > > > * * * > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few points. > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key points > IMHO. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Namaste PVR ji, The great and most respected Varahamihira has given some guidance points on analysis of Profession to consider the strongest amongst the 10H, from Lagna, Sun & Moon. When this is applied, we do not get any combinations for the professions. Here Moon in Mercury is better placed than Mars in Mercury. Moon in Mercury aspected by exalted Venus, Saturn from 8H, & Mars from 7H , with dasha of Rahu running..... which all together indicate contrary profession. Any thoughts on Varahamihira's method ?? With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which is > > given max. ONE point. > > The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of various areas of life in one's life. > > Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to review the performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, commitment etc). They may give different weights to the performance measured in different areas and combine all the scores in various areas using those weights to come up with one single final score to measure the overall performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may have a lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more important by the company. > > However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly look at the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to discipline is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that does not matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what is important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline is low on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall score or the productivity score or communication skills score to judge one's discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge discipline. > > Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means career or education or spirituality are considered less important in the overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, refer to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. > > Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on which area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various charts in the vimsopaka bala scheme. > > * * * > > In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most relevant. As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of 20.0). Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher than rasi and navamsa combined! > > Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and dharmik matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, spirituality in D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding shashtyamsa (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. > > Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can NOT, unless the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 minutes in D-60. > > The other night, some people were brought to my house by a priest I respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the same rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably different personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the times to be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based just on D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed that astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets born so closely. > > Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some hints from tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, may be faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is a vital chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish Jyotisha as a science. > > We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases because the birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling oneself if one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate data, unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear PVR ji, > > > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession {flesh trade}, > > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there is no such > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which is > > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of natal & > > navamsa ?? > > > > Would request thoughts on this. > > > > with regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical appearance > > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the environments > > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the marital > > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa is > > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment is > > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show the > > career primarily. > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination in > > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who provides > > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this is > > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in the > > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to it. > > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, Yama, > > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical directions. > > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the > > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction > > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful position > > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or > > someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni cooks > > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into > > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may > > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality > > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling deities > > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved in > > D-10. > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa rulers " > > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get the > > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should > > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other bodies. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent in > > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected or > > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the > > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes fear, > > adharma and disorder. > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets in > > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other shady > > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are both > > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti and > > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in shady > > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana must > > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the point > > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions and > > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows sexual > > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha > > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and religious > > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru > > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in D-10) > > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with foreigners > > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is in > > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual relationships. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few points. > > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and > > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key points > > IMHO. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear Srinivas, I do not deny Sri Narasimha's viewpoint, since that is logical. However, I also believe that it should reflect in the foundation chart also (while details may be available in D-10 as Narasimha says). I am giving here all the points that need to be addressed. 1. 10th house and lord from lagna, moon and sun. 2. Navamsa dispositor of 10th lord in the rasi chart; most people forget this very important point. Identify the navamsa dispositor of 10th lord (this 10th lord can be the strongest of 10th lord from lagna, moon and sun). See where this navamsa dispositor is in the rasi chart. This very very important. It gives a lot of detail about the profession. Also see the influences on this navamsa dispositor in the rasi chart. Many times this point helped me better than any other point; even better than 10th lord in D-10. 3. 10th house and 10th lord in D-10. 4. lagna lord - see where the lagna lord is - gain you need to compare the strengths of lagna, moon lagna and sun lagna. The position where the lagna lord is, indicates where the person is finally destined to be. 5. lords of the 5th and 9th houses, since these are the dharma houses. The person is inclined to do according to his/her dharma - here the word dharma should be taken as karthavya, responsibility - the influences on the dharma trikonas and their lords makes a great influence. I stress that all these points play their respective roles in moulding the personality of the native; the personality makes a profound influence in choosing one's career. Best regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > The great and most respected Varahamihira has given some guidance points > on analysis of Profession to consider the strongest amongst the 10H, > from Lagna, Sun & Moon. When this is applied, we do not get any > combinations for the professions. Here Moon in Mercury is better placed > than Mars in Mercury. > > Moon in Mercury aspected by exalted Venus, Saturn from 8H, & Mars from > 7H , with dasha of Rahu running..... which all together indicate > contrary profession. > > Any thoughts on Varahamihira's method ?? > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which > is > > > given max. ONE point. > > > > The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of > various areas of life in one's life. > > > > Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to review the > performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. > knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, commitment > etc). They may give different weights to the performance measured in > different areas and combine all the scores in various areas using those > weights to come up with one single final score to measure the overall > performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may have a > lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more important by > the company. > > > > However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly look at > the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to discipline > is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that does not > matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what is > important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline is low > on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall score or > the productivity score or communication skills score to judge one's > discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge > discipline. > > > > Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means career > or education or spirituality are considered less important in the > overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, refer > to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a > question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. > > > > Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on which > area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various charts in > the vimsopaka bala scheme. > > > > * * * > > > > In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most relevant. > As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of 20.0). > Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, > Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher than rasi > and navamsa combined! > > > > Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and dharmik > matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, spirituality in > D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding shashtyamsa > (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. > > > > Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can NOT, unless > the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 minutes in > D-60. > > > > The other night, some people were brought to my house by a priest I > respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the same > rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably different > personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the times to > be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based just on > D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed that > astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets born so > closely. > > > > Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some hints from > tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, may be > faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is a vital > chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish > Jyotisha as a science. > > > > We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases because the > birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling oneself if > one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate data, > unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > -------------------------------- - > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > -------------------------------- - > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear PVR ji, > > > > > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession {flesh > trade}, > > > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there is no > such > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which > is > > > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of natal & > > > navamsa ?? > > > > > > Would request thoughts on this. > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > appearance > > > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > environments > > > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the > marital > > > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa > is > > > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment > is > > > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show > the > > > career primarily. > > > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn > can > > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn > combination in > > > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who > provides > > > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this > is > > > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in > the > > > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to > it. > > > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas > of > > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, > Yama, > > > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > directions. > > > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the > > > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction > > > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > position > > > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or > > > someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni > cooks > > > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into > > > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may > > > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality > > > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling > deities > > > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved > in > > > D-10. > > > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa > rulers " > > > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get > the > > > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should > > > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other > bodies. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be > prominent in > > > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected > or > > > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the > > > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes > fear, > > > adharma and disorder. > > > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, > planets in > > > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other > shady > > > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are > both > > > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti > and > > > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in > shady > > > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see > sexuality > > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana > must > > > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the > point > > > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions > and > > > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows > sexual > > > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha > > > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > religious > > > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru > > > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in > D-10) > > > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > foreigners > > > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is > in > > > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual > relationships. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few > points. > > > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and > > > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key > points > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Narasimha > > > > ---------------------------- ----- > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > Spirituality: > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > ---------------------------- ----- > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 > hrs, > > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in > it. > > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 There is another important point that I did not mention in the earlier message. The specific degrees of certain planets in specific rasis also emphasize the inclination of the native to involve in specific types of karma. This has been presented by Prof PS Sastry in his two volumn masterpiece on scientific approach to vedic astrology. Regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Srinivas, > > I do not deny Sri Narasimha's viewpoint, since that is logical. > However, I also believe that it should reflect in the foundation > chart also (while details may be available in D-10 as Narasimha > says). > > I am giving here all the points that need to be addressed. > 1. 10th house and lord from lagna, moon and sun. > 2. Navamsa dispositor of 10th lord in the rasi chart; most people > forget this very important point. Identify the navamsa dispositor of > 10th lord (this 10th lord can be the strongest of 10th lord from > lagna, moon and sun). See where this navamsa dispositor is in the > rasi chart. This very very important. It gives a lot of detail about > the profession. Also see the influences on this navamsa dispositor > in the rasi chart. Many times this point helped me better than any > other point; even better than 10th lord in D-10. > 3. 10th house and 10th lord in D-10. > 4. lagna lord - see where the lagna lord is - gain you need to > compare the strengths of lagna, moon lagna and sun lagna. The > position where the lagna lord is, indicates where the person is > finally destined to be. > 5. lords of the 5th and 9th houses, since these are the dharma > houses. The person is inclined to do according to his/her dharma - > here the word dharma should be taken as karthavya, responsibility - > the influences on the dharma trikonas and their lords makes a great > influence. > > I stress that all these points play their respective roles in > moulding the personality of the native; the personality makes a > profound influence in choosing one's career. > > Best regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > > > The great and most respected Varahamihira has given some guidance > points > > on analysis of Profession to consider the strongest amongst the > 10H, > > from Lagna, Sun & Moon. When this is applied, we do not get any > > combinations for the professions. Here Moon in Mercury is better > placed > > than Mars in Mercury. > > > > Moon in Mercury aspected by exalted Venus, Saturn from 8H, & Mars > from > > 7H , with dasha of Rahu running..... which all together indicate > > contrary profession. > > > > Any thoughts on Varahamihira's method ?? > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa > which > > is > > > > given max. ONE point. > > > > > > The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of > > various areas of life in one's life. > > > > > > Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to > review the > > performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. > > knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, > commitment > > etc). They may give different weights to the performance measured > in > > different areas and combine all the scores in various areas using > those > > weights to come up with one single final score to measure the > overall > > performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may have > a > > lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more > important by > > the company. > > > > > > However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly > look at > > the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to > discipline > > is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that does > not > > matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what is > > important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline > is low > > on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall > score or > > the productivity score or communication skills score to judge one's > > discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge > > discipline. > > > > > > Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means > career > > or education or spirituality are considered less important in the > > overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, > refer > > to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a > > question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. > > > > > > Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on > which > > area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various > charts in > > the vimsopaka bala scheme. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most > relevant. > > As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of 20.0). > > Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, > > Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher than > rasi > > and navamsa combined! > > > > > > Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and > dharmik > > matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, > spirituality in > > D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding > shashtyamsa > > (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. > > > > > > Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can NOT, > unless > > the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 > minutes in > > D-60. > > > > > > The other night, some people were brought to my house by a > priest I > > respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the > same > > rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably > different > > personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the > times to > > be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based > just on > > D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed > that > > astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets born > so > > closely. > > > > > > Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some > hints from > > tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, may > be > > faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is a > vital > > chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish > > Jyotisha as a science. > > > > > > We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases because > the > > birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling > oneself if > > one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate > data, > > unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------------ -- > - > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------------ -- > - > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > sreeram64@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear PVR ji, > > > > > > > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession {flesh > > trade}, > > > > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there is > no > > such > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa > which > > is > > > > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of > natal & > > > > navamsa ?? > > > > > > > > Would request thoughts on this. > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > <pvr@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > > appearance > > > > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > > environments > > > > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the > > marital > > > > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, > vimsamsa > > is > > > > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional > environment > > is > > > > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) > show > > the > > > > career primarily. > > > > > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus > is an > > > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. > Saturn > > can > > > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn > > combination in > > > > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who > > provides > > > > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, > this > > is > > > > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > > > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant > point in > > the > > > > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close > to > > it. > > > > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten > dasaamsas > > of > > > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, > Agni, > > Yama, > > > > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > > directions. > > > > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule > the > > > > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional > direction > > > > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > > > > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > > position > > > > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an > engineer or > > > > someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni > > cooks > > > > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words > into > > > > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's > dasamsa may > > > > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a > quality > > > > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling > > deities > > > > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets > involved > > in > > > > D-10. > > > > > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top > and " Amsa > > rulers " > > > > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window > to get > > the > > > > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It > should > > > > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other > > bodies. > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be > > prominent in > > > > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such > disrespected > > or > > > > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules > over the > > > > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She > causes > > fear, > > > > adharma and disorder. > > > > > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show > work > > > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or > visionary > > > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, > > planets in > > > > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other > > shady > > > > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important > planets > > > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in > Nirriti's > > > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in > the 6th > > > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd > house are > > both > > > > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between > Nirriti > > and > > > > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in > > shady > > > > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see > > sexuality > > > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha > drekkana > > must > > > > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention > the > > point > > > > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's > interactions > > and > > > > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, > Sukra > > > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, > shows > > sexual > > > > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the > arudha > > > > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > > religious > > > > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's > Guru > > > > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all > in > > D-10) > > > > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > > foreigners > > > > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord > who is > > in > > > > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few > > points. > > > > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of > 2nd and > > > > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the > key > > points > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > -------------------------- -- > ----- > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > -------------------------- -- > ----- > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > sreeram64@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, > 00:50 > > hrs, > > > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations > in > > it. > > > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear Sreenivas ji and All, The Rais chart does have clues. What I see in the natal chart is as follows: 1. Moon occupies UL: the native in general does not see any issues having a relationship with people of any age, young or old. 2. Satrun aspects both UL/UL lord: The native is likely to have relationships with people who are much older in age. 3. UL lord Mercury is in parivartana: The native is likely to have multiple relationships at the same time. There is a good clue from these points that the native could end up being a prostitute. Regards, Krishna Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote: Dear Srinivas, I do not deny Sri Narasimha's viewpoint, since that is logical. However, I also believe that it should reflect in the foundation chart also (while details may be available in D-10 as Narasimha says). I am giving here all the points that need to be addressed. 1. 10th house and lord from lagna, moon and sun. 2. Navamsa dispositor of 10th lord in the rasi chart; most people forget this very important point. Identify the navamsa dispositor of 10th lord (this 10th lord can be the strongest of 10th lord from lagna, moon and sun). See where this navamsa dispositor is in the rasi chart. This very very important. It gives a lot of detail about the profession. Also see the influences on this navamsa dispositor in the rasi chart. Many times this point helped me better than any other point; even better than 10th lord in D-10. 3. 10th house and 10th lord in D-10. 4. lagna lord - see where the lagna lord is - gain you need to compare the strengths of lagna, moon lagna and sun lagna. The position where the lagna lord is, indicates where the person is finally destined to be. 5. lords of the 5th and 9th houses, since these are the dharma houses. The person is inclined to do according to his/her dharma - here the word dharma should be taken as karthavya, responsibility - the influences on the dharma trikonas and their lords makes a great influence. I stress that all these points play their respective roles in moulding the personality of the native; the personality makes a profound influence in choosing one's career. Best regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > The great and most respected Varahamihira has given some guidance points > on analysis of Profession to consider the strongest amongst the 10H, > from Lagna, Sun & Moon. When this is applied, we do not get any > combinations for the professions. Here Moon in Mercury is better placed > than Mars in Mercury. > > Moon in Mercury aspected by exalted Venus, Saturn from 8H, & Mars from > 7H , with dasha of Rahu running..... which all together indicate > contrary profession. > > Any thoughts on Varahamihira's method ?? > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which > is > > > given max. ONE point. > > > > The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of > various areas of life in one's life. > > > > Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to review the > performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. > knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, commitment > etc). They may give different weights to the performance measured in > different areas and combine all the scores in various areas using those > weights to come up with one single final score to measure the overall > performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may have a > lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more important by > the company. > > > > However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly look at > the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to discipline > is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that does not > matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what is > important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline is low > on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall score or > the productivity score or communication skills score to judge one's > discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge > discipline. > > > > Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means career > or education or spirituality are considered less important in the > overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, refer > to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a > question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. > > > > Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on which > area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various charts in > the vimsopaka bala scheme. > > > > * * * > > > > In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most relevant. > As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of 20.0). > Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, > Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher than rasi > and navamsa combined! > > > > Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and dharmik > matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, spirituality in > D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding shashtyamsa > (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. > > > > Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can NOT, unless > the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 minutes in > D-60. > > > > The other night, some people were brought to my house by a priest I > respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the same > rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably different > personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the times to > be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based just on > D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed that > astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets born so > closely. > > > > Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some hints from > tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, may be > faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is a vital > chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish > Jyotisha as a science. > > > > We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases because the > birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling oneself if > one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate data, > unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------- - > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------- - > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear PVR ji, > > > > > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession {flesh > trade}, > > > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there is no > such > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which > is > > > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of natal & > > > navamsa ?? > > > > > > Would request thoughts on this. > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > appearance > > > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > environments > > > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the > marital > > > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa > is > > > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment > is > > > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show > the > > > career primarily. > > > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn > can > > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn > combination in > > > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who > provides > > > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this > is > > > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in > the > > > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to > it. > > > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas > of > > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, > Yama, > > > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > directions. > > > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the > > > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction > > > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > position > > > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or > > > someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni > cooks > > > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into > > > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may > > > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality > > > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling > deities > > > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved > in > > > D-10. > > > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa > rulers " > > > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get > the > > > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should > > > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other > bodies. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be > prominent in > > > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected > or > > > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the > > > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes > fear, > > > adharma and disorder. > > > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, > planets in > > > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other > shady > > > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are > both > > > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti > and > > > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in > shady > > > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see > sexuality > > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana > must > > > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the > point > > > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions > and > > > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows > sexual > > > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha > > > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > religious > > > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru > > > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in > D-10) > > > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > foreigners > > > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is > in > > > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual > relationships. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few > points. > > > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and > > > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key > points > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Narasimha > > > > ------------------------- ----- > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > Spirituality: > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > ------------------------- ----- > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 > hrs, > > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in > it. > > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 I forgot to add one more point in my previous mail: 4. Lord of 9th (Dharma) Sun is very weak being in Gandanta. Regards, Krishna Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Sreenivas ji and All, The Rais chart does have clues. What I see in the natal chart is as follows: 1. Moon occupies UL: the native in general does not see any issues having a relationship with people of any age, young or old. 2. Satrun aspects both UL/UL lord: The native is likely to have relationships with people who are much older in age. 3. UL lord Mercury is in parivartana: The native is likely to have multiple relationships at the same time. There is a good clue from these points that the native could end up being a prostitute. Regards, Krishna Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote: Dear Srinivas, I do not deny Sri Narasimha's viewpoint, since that is logical. However, I also believe that it should reflect in the foundation chart also (while details may be available in D-10 as Narasimha says). I am giving here all the points that need to be addressed. 1. 10th house and lord from lagna, moon and sun. 2. Navamsa dispositor of 10th lord in the rasi chart; most people forget this very important point. Identify the navamsa dispositor of 10th lord (this 10th lord can be the strongest of 10th lord from lagna, moon and sun). See where this navamsa dispositor is in the rasi chart. This very very important. It gives a lot of detail about the profession. Also see the influences on this navamsa dispositor in the rasi chart. Many times this point helped me better than any other point; even better than 10th lord in D-10. 3. 10th house and 10th lord in D-10. 4. lagna lord - see where the lagna lord is - gain you need to compare the strengths of lagna, moon lagna and sun lagna. The position where the lagna lord is, indicates where the person is finally destined to be. 5. lords of the 5th and 9th houses, since these are the dharma houses. The person is inclined to do according to his/her dharma - here the word dharma should be taken as karthavya, responsibility - the influences on the dharma trikonas and their lords makes a great influence. I stress that all these points play their respective roles in moulding the personality of the native; the personality makes a profound influence in choosing one's career. Best regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > The great and most respected Varahamihira has given some guidance points > on analysis of Profession to consider the strongest amongst the 10H, > from Lagna, Sun & Moon. When this is applied, we do not get any > combinations for the professions. Here Moon in Mercury is better placed > than Mars in Mercury. > > Moon in Mercury aspected by exalted Venus, Saturn from 8H, & Mars from > 7H , with dasha of Rahu running..... which all together indicate > contrary profession. > > Any thoughts on Varahamihira's method ?? > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which > is > > > given max. ONE point. > > > > The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of > various areas of life in one's life. > > > > Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to review the > performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. > knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, commitment > etc). They may give different weights to the performance measured in > different areas and combine all the scores in various areas using those > weights to come up with one single final score to measure the overall > performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may have a > lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more important by > the company. > > > > However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly look at > the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to discipline > is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that does not > matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what is > important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline is low > on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall score or > the productivity score or communication skills score to judge one's > discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge > discipline. > > > > Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means career > or education or spirituality are considered less important in the > overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, refer > to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a > question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. > > > > Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on which > area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various charts in > the vimsopaka bala scheme. > > > > * * * > > > > In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most relevant. > As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of 20.0). > Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, > Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher than rasi > and navamsa combined! > > > > Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and dharmik > matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, spirituality in > D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding shashtyamsa > (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. > > > > Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can NOT, unless > the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 minutes in > D-60. > > > > The other night, some people were brought to my house by a priest I > respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the same > rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably different > personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the times to > be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based just on > D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed that > astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets born so > closely. > > > > Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some hints from > tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, may be > faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is a vital > chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish > Jyotisha as a science. > > > > We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases because the > birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling oneself if > one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate data, > unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------- - > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------- - > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear PVR ji, > > > > > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession {flesh > trade}, > > > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there is no > such > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed the > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the dasamsa which > is > > > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of natal & > > > navamsa ?? > > > > > > Would request thoughts on this. > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > appearance > > > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > environments > > > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the > marital > > > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa > is > > > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment > is > > > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show > the > > > career primarily. > > > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn > can > > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn > combination in > > > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who > provides > > > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this > is > > > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in > the > > > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to > it. > > > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas > of > > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, > Yama, > > > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > directions. > > > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the > > > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction > > > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > position > > > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or > > > someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni > cooks > > > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into > > > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may > > > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality > > > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling > deities > > > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved > in > > > D-10. > > > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa > rulers " > > > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get > the > > > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should > > > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other > bodies. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be > prominent in > > > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected > or > > > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the > > > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes > fear, > > > adharma and disorder. > > > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, > planets in > > > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other > shady > > > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are > both > > > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti > and > > > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in > shady > > > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see > sexuality > > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana > must > > > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the > point > > > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions > and > > > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows > sexual > > > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha > > > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > religious > > > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru > > > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in > D-10) > > > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > foreigners > > > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is > in > > > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual > relationships. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few > points. > > > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and > > > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key > points > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Narasimha > > > > ------------------------- ----- > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > Spirituality: > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > ------------------------- ----- > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " sreeram64@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 > hrs, > > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in > it. > > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Dear All, I am new member here and have been silently absorbing the knowledge and wisdom flowing from this group of stalwarts of astrology. However, while going through this thread, I could not agree with some of the points being mentioned to delineate the profession in a chart. While Narasimha Ji has very nicely given the finer nuances of the D-10, he has not given his observations on the natal chart as also the navamsha, without which any dissection of dashmansh is redundant. According to classics: - The natal chart is the primary basis for astrological readings. Anything which is not there in Rashi chart cannot be produced in vargas. - Navamsha is the only privileged division which compliments the main chart and is used to delineate certain specific results. - The vargas are used to assess the strengths of lords. Some vargas have later been assigned the job of assessing the strengths of planets, such as dreshkan for mars, vimshansha for venus (origin not known). Rishi Parashara has not stated anywhere that we over-ride the rashi chart to see results in vargas. The main purpose of vargas as explained in BPHS are: - To assess the strength of planets by using shadvargeeya bal, saptavargeeya bal, dashvargeeya bal, and vargvimshopak bal, etc. - To know the sum effects of a planet when the planet goes in maximum number of good vargas. E.g in shadvarga, a planet is called Kimshuk, Vyanjan, Chamar, Chatr and Kundal, according to the planet being in 2 to 6 combinations of good Vargas. - Varga position is used to check how a lord and/or a karak grah is strengthened in a particular varga. Parashara says that in these divisions, if a planet falls exaltation sign, Mooltrikon sign, own sign and the signs owned by the lord of a Kendra from the Arudha Lagna, are all to be considered as good Vargas. A varga chart is used to confirm the results of natal chart A planet gives the results in its dasha in accordance with its position in varga (KN Rao) All classics unequivocally assign the livelihood to 10H and the planets posited therein of the natal chart. It is to be seen first from lagna and then from sun or moon. According to some classics, if there is no planet in 10H of natal chart, one should see the planet/s in 10H in navamsha, or the navamsha of 10L. If a native is seen to become a doctor from a natal chart, only then we may jump to the varga chart to see the finer details of his profession as a doctor. The vargas cannot be used independently to judge the results of a particular house. Regards neelam On 14/04/2008, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote: > > There is another important point that I did not mention in the > earlier message. > > The specific degrees of certain planets in specific rasis also > emphasize the inclination of the native to involve in specific types > of karma. This has been presented by Prof PS Sastry in his two > volumn masterpiece on scientific approach to vedic astrology. > > Regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > <%40>, > " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi wrote: > > > > Dear Srinivas, > > > > I do not deny Sri Narasimha's viewpoint, since that is logical. > > However, I also believe that it should reflect in the foundation > > chart also (while details may be available in D-10 as Narasimha > > says). > > > > I am giving here all the points that need to be addressed. > > 1. 10th house and lord from lagna, moon and sun. > > 2. Navamsa dispositor of 10th lord in the rasi chart; most people > > forget this very important point. Identify the navamsa dispositor > of > > 10th lord (this 10th lord can be the strongest of 10th lord from > > lagna, moon and sun). See where this navamsa dispositor is in the > > rasi chart. This very very important. It gives a lot of detail > about > > the profession. Also see the influences on this navamsa dispositor > > in the rasi chart. Many times this point helped me better than any > > other point; even better than 10th lord in D-10. > > 3. 10th house and 10th lord in D-10. > > 4. lagna lord - see where the lagna lord is - gain you need to > > compare the strengths of lagna, moon lagna and sun lagna. The > > position where the lagna lord is, indicates where the person is > > finally destined to be. > > 5. lords of the 5th and 9th houses, since these are the dharma > > houses. The person is inclined to do according to his/her dharma - > > here the word dharma should be taken as karthavya, responsibility - > > > the influences on the dharma trikonas and their lords makes a > great > > influence. > > > > I stress that all these points play their respective roles in > > moulding the personality of the native; the personality makes a > > profound influence in choosing one's career. > > > > Best regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > " sreeram srinivas " > > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > > > > > The great and most respected Varahamihira has given some > guidance > > points > > > on analysis of Profession to consider the strongest amongst the > > 10H, > > > from Lagna, Sun & Moon. When this is applied, we do not get any > > > combinations for the professions. Here Moon in Mercury is > better > > placed > > > than Mars in Mercury. > > > > > > Moon in Mercury aspected by exalted Venus, Saturn from 8H, & > Mars > > from > > > 7H , with dasha of Rahu running..... which all together indicate > > > contrary profession. > > > > > > Any thoughts on Varahamihira's method ?? > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > <pvr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed > the > > > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the > dasamsa > > which > > > is > > > > > given max. ONE point. > > > > > > > > The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of > > > various areas of life in one's life. > > > > > > > > Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to > > review the > > > performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. > > > knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, > > commitment > > > etc). They may give different weights to the performance > measured > > in > > > different areas and combine all the scores in various areas > using > > those > > > weights to come up with one single final score to measure the > > overall > > > performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may > have > > a > > > lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more > > important by > > > the company. > > > > > > > > However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly > > look at > > > the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to > > discipline > > > is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that > does > > not > > > matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what > is > > > important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline > > is low > > > on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall > > score or > > > the productivity score or communication skills score to judge > one's > > > discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge > > > discipline. > > > > > > > > Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means > > career > > > or education or spirituality are considered less important in the > > > overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, > > refer > > > to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a > > > question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. > > > > > > > > Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on > > which > > > area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various > > charts in > > > the vimsopaka bala scheme. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most > > relevant. > > > As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of > 20.0). > > > Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, > > > Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher > than > > rasi > > > and navamsa combined! > > > > > > > > Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and > > dharmik > > > matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, > > spirituality in > > > D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding > > shashtyamsa > > > (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. > > > > > > > > Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can > NOT, > > unless > > > the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 > > minutes in > > > D-60. > > > > > > > > The other night, some people were brought to my house by a > > priest I > > > respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the > > same > > > rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably > > different > > > personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the > > times to > > > be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based > > just on > > > D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed > > that > > > astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets > born > > so > > > closely. > > > > > > > > Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some > > hints from > > > tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, > may > > be > > > faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is > a > > vital > > > chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish > > > Jyotisha as a science. > > > > > > > > We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases > because > > the > > > birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling > > oneself if > > > one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate > > data, > > > unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Narasimha > > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > Spirituality: > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > ------------------------- > -- > > - > > > > > > > > <%40>, > " sreeram srinivas " > > sreeram64@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear PVR ji, > > > > > > > > > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession > {flesh > > > trade}, > > > > > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there > is > > no > > > such > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed > the > > > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the > dasamsa > > which > > > is > > > > > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of > > natal & > > > > > navamsa ?? > > > > > > > > > > Would request thoughts on this. > > > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > > <pvr@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > > > appearance > > > > > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > > > environments > > > > > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is > the > > > marital > > > > > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, > > vimsamsa > > > is > > > > > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional > > environment > > > is > > > > > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha > trikonas) > > show > > > the > > > > > career primarily. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. > Venus > > is an > > > > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. > > Saturn > > > can > > > > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn > > > combination in > > > > > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one > who > > > provides > > > > > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of > course, > > this > > > is > > > > > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will > be > > > > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant > > point in > > > the > > > > > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are > close > > to > > > it. > > > > > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten > > dasaamsas > > > of > > > > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, > > Agni, > > > Yama, > > > > > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > > > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > > > directions. > > > > > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule > > the > > > > > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional > > direction > > > > > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling > deity. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > > > position > > > > > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an > > engineer or > > > > > someone who transforms something into something else (like > Agni > > > cooks > > > > > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed > words > > into > > > > > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's > > dasamsa may > > > > > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a > > quality > > > > > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling > > > deities > > > > > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets > > involved > > > in > > > > > D-10. > > > > > > > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top > > and " Amsa > > > rulers " > > > > > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the > window > > to get > > > the > > > > > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. > It > > should > > > > > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other > > > bodies. > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be > > > prominent in > > > > > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such > > disrespected > > > or > > > > > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules > > over the > > > > > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She > > causes > > > fear, > > > > > adharma and disorder. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may > show > > work > > > > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or > > visionary > > > > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, > > > planets in > > > > > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and > other > > > shady > > > > > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important > > planets > > > > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in > > Nirriti's > > > > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in > > the 6th > > > > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd > > house are > > > both > > > > > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between > > Nirriti > > > and > > > > > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work > in > > > shady > > > > > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see > > > sexuality > > > > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha > > drekkana > > > must > > > > > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention > > the > > > point > > > > > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's > > interactions > > > and > > > > > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, > > Sukra > > > > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, > > shows > > > sexual > > > > > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. > the > > arudha > > > > > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > > > religious > > > > > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's > > Guru > > > > > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it > (all > > in > > > D-10) > > > > > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > > > foreigners > > > > > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th > lord > > who is > > > in > > > > > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a > few > > > points. > > > > > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of > > 2nd and > > > > > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are > the > > key > > > points > > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > ------------------------- > -- > > ----- > > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > ------------------------- > -- > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > " sreeram srinivas " > > sreeram64@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, > > 00:50 > > > hrs, > > > > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get > combinations > > in > > > it. > > > > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Namaste, > While Narasimha Ji has very nicely given the finer nuances of the D-10, he > has not given his observations on the natal chart as also the navamsha, > without which any dissection of dashmansh is redundant. All I know is the lady's profession and nothing else. How dharmik she is, how she actually thinks and feels about her career, how her career is affecting her physically etc are all unknown to me. If I were trying to guess those aspects, I would be looking at rasi and navamsa in conjunction with dasamsa. To analyze her professional environment in a vaccum, dasamsa is sufficient for me. To link it to others aspects of her personality, I need other charts. Best regards, Narasimha Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Namaste Narasimha ji (To respected members - Dasamsa deities are purely based on natal degrees of planets and not based on bhavas in varga chakra). I have couple of questions to Narasimha ji- If you were not aware of the profession of this lady,what would have been your guess?. As per you,planets in Ananta's dasamsa,gives rise to spiritual rise and upliftment.For this lady Saturn is in Anantas dashamsha as ''9th lord''.Planets in Ananta's dasamsa indicate activities related to spiritual rise and upliftment as per you.If so why is this Saturn (if ''placed in 10th'') making her do lowly acts? - Do we have different yard sticks. Now if shri Srinivas had said this Lady is a saint - Then how will be our interpretation? ''Saturn/Venus shows Tapaswi,in the 10th house of Dashamasha,in satwik pisces,with lord Guru exalted.She is a reformer with Guru in nirrirti(you have mentioned +ve and -ve). Navamsha - In dharmamsha chakra this lady has venus joining spiritual ketu in lagna.Dharma karmadhipathi yoga with exalted jupiter and saturn/moon combination indicating a perfect saint or tapaswi''. Please don't think i am being sarcastic here.Haven't we seen hundreds of post-mortem analysis/articles like the above(i am not pointing at you alone).Can you honestly say no?.I am not being over critical. I would request you to study this chart from the fundamental angles and check if you can get any clues. Thanks Pradeep , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste Sir, > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical appearance and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the environments under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is the marital and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, vimsamsa is the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional environment is seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show the career primarily. > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination in the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who provides comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of course, this is secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be successful and make good money. > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in the zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to it. This can also show some undesirable work. > > * * * > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, Yama, Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical directions. They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule the dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional direction covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling deity. > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful position and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an engineer or someone who transforms something into something else (like Agni cooks grains and transforms into food or processes these typed words into knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's dasamsa may make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a quality control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling deities give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets involved in D-10. > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa rulers " tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window to get the popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. It should then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other bodies. > > * * * > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent in the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected or otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over the southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes fear, adharma and disorder. > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other shady and disrespected areas etc. > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are both in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between Nirriti and arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work in shady ways and make money in shady ways. > > * * * > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana must exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the point so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > * * * > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions and relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows sexual relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the arudha pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and religious relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's Guru darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all in D-10) and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with foreigners in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th lord who is in Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual relationships. > > * * * > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few points. Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of 2nd and 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the key points IMHO. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Namaste friends, > I have couple of questions to Narasimha ji- I realize that you don't really have any questions to me. Rather than a question to me, this is a statement of your strong opinions! > Please don't think i am being sarcastic here.Haven't we seen hundreds > of post-mortem analysis/articles like the above(i am not pointing at > you alone).Can you honestly say no?.I am not being over critical. > > I would request you to study this chart from the fundamental angles > and check if you can get any clues. Post mortems are easier than balancing multiple factors in a real world situation and giving a confident prediction or reading. But it is wrong to think that Jyotishis only do post mortems. But it is difficult to recreate on lists what one does privately with a client who faithfully co-operates in the whole birthtime rectification process and tries to get help rather than test and prove wrong. In the early days of vedic astrology , we used to have puzzles in the earnest and several were solved correctly. We also had several predictions that were made to people, which came true in time. Unfortunately, as politics increases in a list, one's trust in others decreases and one cannot participate in puzzles freely. After all, one can give wrong data and not give enough information for rectification. Or worse, puzzle giver can make false statements before or after the puzzle is solved, just to show an astrologer in poor light. Or one can rig a puzzle and reveal the answer to friends beforehand. I am not interested in proving anything to anybody. I got involved in this thread and shared the little I knew, because someone said he was confused and wanted some direction. If this comes down to proving things and egos, I have to walk away.. Best regards, Narasimha Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Namaste Narasimha ji > > (To respected members - Dasamsa deities are purely based on natal > degrees of planets and not based on bhavas in varga chakra). > > I have couple of questions to Narasimha ji- > > If you were not aware of the profession of this lady,what would have > been your guess?. > > As per you,planets in Ananta's dasamsa,gives rise to spiritual rise > and upliftment.For this lady Saturn is in Anantas dashamsha as ''9th > lord''.Planets in Ananta's dasamsa indicate activities related to > spiritual rise and upliftment as per you.If so why is this Saturn > (if ''placed in 10th'') making her do lowly acts? - Do we have > different yard sticks. > > Now if shri Srinivas had said this Lady is a saint - Then how will be > our interpretation? > > ''Saturn/Venus shows Tapaswi,in the 10th house of Dashamasha,in > satwik pisces,with lord Guru exalted.She is a reformer with Guru in > nirrirti(you have mentioned +ve and -ve). > Navamsha - In dharmamsha chakra this lady has venus joining spiritual > ketu in lagna.Dharma karmadhipathi yoga with exalted jupiter and > saturn/moon combination indicating a perfect saint or tapaswi''. > > Please don't think i am being sarcastic here.Haven't we seen hundreds > of post-mortem analysis/articles like the above(i am not pointing at > you alone).Can you honestly say no?.I am not being over critical. > > I would request you to study this chart from the fundamental angles > and check if you can get any clues. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > appearance and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > environments under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa > is the marital and dharmik environment, hora is the financial > environment, vimsamsa is the spiritual environment and so on. One's > professional environment is seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key > chart for profession. > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show > the career primarily. > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination > in the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who > provides comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of > course, this is secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > successful and make good money. > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in > the zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to > it. This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > * * * > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, > Yama, Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > directions. They are the directions taken in life. That is why they > rule the dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional > direction covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling > deity. > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > position and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an > engineer or someone who transforms something into something else > (like Agni cooks grains and transforms into food or processes these > typed words into knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in > Yama's dasamsa may make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, > police or a quality control engineer. And so on. In my experience, > dasamsa ruling deities give a very useful insight, on top of the > signs and planets involved in D-10. > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa > rulers " tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window > to get the popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. > It should then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and > other bodies. > > > > * * * > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent > in the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected > or otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over > the southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes > fear, adharma and disorder. > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets > in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other > shady and disrespected areas etc. > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are > both in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between > Nirriti and arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will > work in shady ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > * * * > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana > must exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the > point so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > * * * > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions > and relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows > sexual relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the > arudha pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > religious relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's > Guru darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all > in D-10) and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > foreigners in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th > lord who is in Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve > sexual relationships. > > > > * * * > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few > points. Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of > 2nd and 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the > key points IMHO. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, > 00:50 hrs, > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in > it. > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Namaste friends, 1) I have posted the topic as a pure case study, free from any ego bashings, for this group has lost its decorum for various acts of omission for NOT having a permanent moderator. 2) Wanted to divert the attention of other members, to core subject of astrology. I would have posted this in my own group { } and discussed it, however, this group had earlier was graced by worthy astro names including Sri K.N. Rao who is my jyotish guru, so do have some respect for this group, hence, I keep coming back, now it is my time { my 2 cetns} to contribute and bring it back to normal..... 3) I wanted to restore this group to sanity through this open discussion 4) In the varga discussion or debates that we had way back in Year 2004 in VA, PVR has maintained to interpret vargas as a independent chart for the " question " in subject i.e. Profession - analyse D-10. 5) It is my submission, that classics have all the while stressed Natal chart & Navamsa as Mr. Satya Sai Kolachina clearly mentioned it 6) When the chart was given to me, I did apply and could NOT really find that combinations as originally informed on the native's profession. 7) For a native to join such a profession - the LL should be weak or in Paap Kartari { Scissors Yoga} or Debilitation of Moon or 12H should be strong or Mars + Venus combination should be present to show excessive inclinations or the LL should be connected to 12H...etc.. In Indian conditions, people join the profession either when duped into or due to economic reasons or family conditions or ...etc.. 8) In this Moon is in Mercurial Sign-Virgo. LL Jupiter is in 5H, with Mercury which is 10HL. Venus is in Pisces and exalted, in 4H enjoying the directional strength. 5HL Mars aspecting Lagna. Assuming the lady is not fully into profession and is occassionally into it....then her 8H should be strong, as a basic. 9) Irrespective of D-10 analysis, which should not be over-riding factor of the natal positions is my opinion based on the classical dictums. { This is irrespective of how one may analyse the vargas as a independent chart or varga as embedded in sign's itself - equal house system} With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Sreenivas ji and All, I did send the response yesterday night. But, I am not sure why my mail did not get posted. Hence, I am sedning this again. ******************* The Rais chart does have clues. What I see in the natal chart is as follows: 1. Moon occupies UL: the native in general does not see any issues having a relationship with people of any age, young or old. 2. Satrun aspects both UL/UL lord: The native is likely to have relationships with people who are much older in age. 3. UL lord Mercury is in parivartana: The native is likely to have multiple relationships at the same time. 4. The 9th lord (of dharma) Sun is in gandanta There is a good clue from these points that the native could end up being a prostitute. Regards, Krishna sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Namaste friends, 1) I have posted the topic as a pure case study, free from any ego bashings, for this group has lost its decorum for various acts of omission for NOT having a permanent moderator. 2) Wanted to divert the attention of other members, to core subject of astrology. I would have posted this in my own group { } and discussed it, however, this group had earlier was graced by worthy astro names including Sri K.N. Rao who is my jyotish guru, so do have some respect for this group, hence, I keep coming back, now it is my time { my 2 cetns} to contribute and bring it back to normal..... 3) I wanted to restore this group to sanity through this open discussion 4) In the varga discussion or debates that we had way back in Year 2004 in VA, PVR has maintained to interpret vargas as a independent chart for the " question " in subject i.e. Profession - analyse D-10. 5) It is my submission, that classics have all the while stressed Natal chart & Navamsa as Mr. Satya Sai Kolachina clearly mentioned it 6) When the chart was given to me, I did apply and could NOT really find that combinations as originally informed on the native's profession. 7) For a native to join such a profession - the LL should be weak or in Paap Kartari { Scissors Yoga} or Debilitation of Moon or 12H should be strong or Mars + Venus combination should be present to show excessive inclinations or the LL should be connected to 12H...etc.. In Indian conditions, people join the profession either when duped into or due to economic reasons or family conditions or ...etc.. 8) In this Moon is in Mercurial Sign-Virgo. LL Jupiter is in 5H, with Mercury which is 10HL. Venus is in Pisces and exalted, in 4H enjoying the directional strength. 5HL Mars aspecting Lagna. Assuming the lady is not fully into profession and is occassionally into it....then her 8H should be strong, as a basic. 9) Irrespective of D-10 analysis, which should not be over-riding factor of the natal positions is my opinion based on the classical dictums. { This is irrespective of how one may analyse the vargas as a independent chart or varga as embedded in sign's itself - equal house system} With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Sir, I had a same debate with Rafal in i guess sohamsa forum last year. where i was challanged by one person to tell the profession of native. i quoted same with help of rashi chart and i didnt moved to D-10 even... and my assumption was 100% correct. i am not a big astrologer but the rashi chart should have little indications abt the profesion of native atleast. I am not against D-9 or d-10 or other divisions. but first rashi chart should signify it. Regards, Tarun , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Namaste Narasimha ji > > (To respected members - Dasamsa deities are purely based on natal > degrees of planets and not based on bhavas in varga chakra). > > I have couple of questions to Narasimha ji- > > If you were not aware of the profession of this lady,what would have > been your guess?. > > As per you,planets in Ananta's dasamsa,gives rise to spiritual rise > and upliftment.For this lady Saturn is in Anantas dashamsha as ''9th > lord''.Planets in Ananta's dasamsa indicate activities related to > spiritual rise and upliftment as per you.If so why is this Saturn > (if ''placed in 10th'') making her do lowly acts? - Do we have > different yard sticks. > > Now if shri Srinivas had said this Lady is a saint - Then how will be > our interpretation? > > ''Saturn/Venus shows Tapaswi,in the 10th house of Dashamasha,in > satwik pisces,with lord Guru exalted.She is a reformer with Guru in > nirrirti(you have mentioned +ve and -ve). > Navamsha - In dharmamsha chakra this lady has venus joining spiritual > ketu in lagna.Dharma karmadhipathi yoga with exalted jupiter and > saturn/moon combination indicating a perfect saint or tapaswi''. > > Please don't think i am being sarcastic here.Haven't we seen hundreds > of post-mortem analysis/articles like the above(i am not pointing at > you alone).Can you honestly say no?.I am not being over critical. > > I would request you to study this chart from the fundamental angles > and check if you can get any clues. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > appearance and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > environments under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa > is the marital and dharmik environment, hora is the financial > environment, vimsamsa is the spiritual environment and so on. One's > professional environment is seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key > chart for profession. > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show > the career primarily. > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination > in the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who > provides comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of > course, this is secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > successful and make good money. > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in > the zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to > it. This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > * * * > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, > Yama, Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > directions. They are the directions taken in life. That is why they > rule the dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional > direction covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling > deity. > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > position and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an > engineer or someone who transforms something into something else > (like Agni cooks grains and transforms into food or processes these > typed words into knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in > Yama's dasamsa may make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, > police or a quality control engineer. And so on. In my experience, > dasamsa ruling deities give a very useful insight, on top of the > signs and planets involved in D-10. > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa > rulers " tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window > to get the popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. > It should then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and > other bodies. > > > > * * * > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent > in the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected > or otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over > the southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes > fear, adharma and disorder. > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets > in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other > shady and disrespected areas etc. > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are > both in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between > Nirriti and arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will > work in shady ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > * * * > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana > must exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the > point so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > * * * > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions > and relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows > sexual relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the > arudha pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > religious relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's > Guru darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all > in D-10) and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > foreigners in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th > lord who is in Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve > sexual relationships. > > > > * * * > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few > points. Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of > 2nd and 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the > key points IMHO. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > -------------------------------- - > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > -------------------------------- - > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, > 00:50 hrs, > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in > it. > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Neelam, I would be most grateful if you could give an example of how you use the vargas when interpreting a natal chart. Thanks. Best Wishes....Bob , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > I am new member here and have been silently absorbing the knowledge and > wisdom flowing from this group of stalwarts of astrology. > > However, while going through this thread, I could not agree with some of the > points being mentioned to delineate the profession in a chart. > > While Narasimha Ji has very nicely given the finer nuances of the D- 10, he > has not given his observations on the natal chart as also the navamsha, > without which any dissection of dashmansh is redundant. > > According to classics: > > - The natal chart is the primary basis for astrological readings. > Anything which is not there in Rashi chart cannot be produced in vargas. > - Navamsha is the only privileged division which compliments the main > chart and is used to delineate certain specific results. > - The vargas are used to assess the strengths of lords. Some vargas > have later been assigned the job of assessing the strengths of planets, such > as dreshkan for mars, vimshansha for venus (origin not known). > > Rishi Parashara has not stated anywhere that we over-ride the rashi chart to > see results in vargas. The main purpose of vargas as explained in BPHS are: > > > - To assess the strength of planets by using shadvargeeya bal, > saptavargeeya bal, dashvargeeya bal, and vargvimshopak bal, etc. > - To know the sum effects of a planet when the planet goes in maximum > number of good vargas. E.g in shadvarga, a planet is called Kimshuk, > Vyanjan, Chamar, Chatr and Kundal, according to the planet being in 2 to 6 > combinations of good Vargas. > - Varga position is used to check how a lord and/or a karak grah is > strengthened in a particular varga. Parashara says that in these divisions, > if a planet falls exaltation sign, Mooltrikon sign, own sign and the signs > owned by the lord of a Kendra from the Arudha Lagna, are all to be > considered as good Vargas. > > A varga chart is used to confirm the results of natal chart > > A planet gives the results in its dasha in accordance with its position in > varga (KN Rao) > > All classics unequivocally assign the livelihood to 10H and the planets > posited therein of the natal chart. It is to be seen first from lagna and > then from sun or moon. According to some classics, if there is no planet in > 10H of natal chart, one should see the planet/s in 10H in navamsha, or the > navamsha of 10L. > > If a native is seen to become a doctor from a natal chart, only then we may > jump to the varga chart to see the finer details of his profession as a > doctor. > > The vargas cannot be used independently to judge the results of a particular > house. > > Regards > > neelam > > > > > > On 14/04/2008, Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi wrote: > > > > There is another important point that I did not mention in the > > earlier message. > > > > The specific degrees of certain planets in specific rasis also > > emphasize the inclination of the native to involve in specific types > > of karma. This has been presented by Prof PS Sastry in his two > > volumn masterpiece on scientific approach to vedic astrology. > > > > Regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > <% 40>, > > " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Srinivas, > > > > > > I do not deny Sri Narasimha's viewpoint, since that is logical. > > > However, I also believe that it should reflect in the foundation > > > chart also (while details may be available in D-10 as Narasimha > > > says). > > > > > > I am giving here all the points that need to be addressed. > > > 1. 10th house and lord from lagna, moon and sun. > > > 2. Navamsa dispositor of 10th lord in the rasi chart; most people > > > forget this very important point. Identify the navamsa dispositor > > of > > > 10th lord (this 10th lord can be the strongest of 10th lord from > > > lagna, moon and sun). See where this navamsa dispositor is in the > > > rasi chart. This very very important. It gives a lot of detail > > about > > > the profession. Also see the influences on this navamsa dispositor > > > in the rasi chart. Many times this point helped me better than any > > > other point; even better than 10th lord in D-10. > > > 3. 10th house and 10th lord in D-10. > > > 4. lagna lord - see where the lagna lord is - gain you need to > > > compare the strengths of lagna, moon lagna and sun lagna. The > > > position where the lagna lord is, indicates where the person is > > > finally destined to be. > > > 5. lords of the 5th and 9th houses, since these are the dharma > > > houses. The person is inclined to do according to his/her dharma - > > > here the word dharma should be taken as karthavya, responsibility - > > > > > the influences on the dharma trikonas and their lords makes a > > great > > > influence. > > > > > > I stress that all these points play their respective roles in > > > moulding the personality of the native; the personality makes a > > > profound influence in choosing one's career. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " sreeram srinivas " > > > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste PVR ji, > > > > > > > > The great and most respected Varahamihira has given some > > guidance > > > points > > > > on analysis of Profession to consider the strongest amongst the > > > 10H, > > > > from Lagna, Sun & Moon. When this is applied, we do not get any > > > > combinations for the professions. Here Moon in Mercury is > > better > > > placed > > > > than Mars in Mercury. > > > > > > > > Moon in Mercury aspected by exalted Venus, Saturn from 8H, & > > Mars > > > from > > > > 7H , with dasha of Rahu running..... which all together indicate > > > > contrary profession. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts on Varahamihira's method ?? > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > > <pvr@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed > > the > > > > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the > > dasamsa > > > which > > > > is > > > > > > given max. ONE point. > > > > > > > > > > The so-called weights try to capture the relative importance of > > > > various areas of life in one's life. > > > > > > > > > > Let me give an analogy. Some companies may ask managers to > > > review the > > > > performance of employees and give scores in different areas (e.g. > > > > knowledge, productivity, discipline, communication skills, > > > commitment > > > > etc). They may give different weights to the performance > > measured > > > in > > > > different areas and combine all the scores in various areas > > using > > > those > > > > weights to come up with one single final score to measure the > > > overall > > > > performance. Some areas may have a higher weight and some may > > have > > > a > > > > lower weight. It is based on which area is considered more > > > important by > > > > the company. > > > > > > > > > > However, if you want to judge one's discipline, you directly > > > look at > > > > the score in the discipline category. If the weight given to > > > discipline > > > > is low and it reflects very little on the overall score, that > > does > > > not > > > > matter. Still that individual discipline category score is what > > is > > > > important in judging the person's discipline. Because discipline > > > is low > > > > on company's weightage scheme, you do not look at the overall > > > score or > > > > the productivity score or communication skills score to judge > > one's > > > > discipline. You directly look at the discipline score to judge > > > > discipline. > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, if D-10 or D-24 or D-20 has a low weight, it means > > > career > > > > or education or spirituality are considered less important in the > > > > overall scheme of things. But, if a question on career comes up, > > > refer > > > > to D-10. If a question on education comes up, refer to D-24. If a > > > > question on spirituality comes up, refer to D-20. > > > > > > > > > > Parasara clearly taught which divisional chart throws light on > > > which > > > > area of life. Don't be misled by the weights given to various > > > charts in > > > > the vimsopaka bala scheme. > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > In individual natal horoscopy, dasa varga scheme is the most > > > relevant. > > > > As per this scheme, rasi chart gets a weight of 3.0 (out of > > 20.0). > > > > Navamsa, Dasamsa, Hora, Drekkana etc get 1.5 each. Interestingly, > > > > Shashtyamsa (D-60) chart gets a weight of 5.0. This is higher > > than > > > rasi > > > > and navamsa combined! > > > > > > > > > > Parasara tells to see physical matters in rasi, marriage and > > > dharmik > > > > matters in navamsa, career in D-10, education in D-24, > > > spirituality in > > > > D-20, parents in D-12, children in D-7 etc. But, regarding > > > shashtyamsa > > > > (D-60), he simply said " see everything in D-60 " . Hmmmm. > > > > > > > > > > Ironically, most of us do not even use D-60! We simply can > > NOT, > > > unless > > > > the time is known accurately. Lagna changes in every 1.5 or 2 > > > minutes in > > > > D-60. > > > > > > > > > > The other night, some people were brought to my house by a > > > priest I > > > > respect and I saw their charts. They have triplets born with the > > > same > > > > rasi, navamsa and dasamsa charts. But they have considerably > > > different > > > > personalities and attitudes even at a young age. I assumed the > > > times to > > > > be accurate and pointed out some personality differences based > > > just on > > > > D-60. Their feedback was quite positive and they were impressed > > > that > > > > astrology was capable of showing the differences in triplets > > born > > > so > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, my understanding of D-60, which is based on some > > > hints from > > > > tradition and also some ideas that came from my own intuition, > > may > > > be > > > > faulty. But it is evident from Parasara's teachings that D-60 is > > a > > > vital > > > > chart. Without understanding it correctly, we can never establish > > > > Jyotisha as a science. > > > > > > > > > > We cannot and should not blindly use D-60 in most cases > > because > > > the > > > > birthtimes reported are often inaccurate. But, one is fooling > > > oneself if > > > > one thinks that accurate predictions can be made with inaccurate > > > data, > > > > unless one has luck and intuition on one's side. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > ------------------------- > > -- > > > - > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > ------------------------- > > -- > > > - > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " sreeram srinivas " > > > sreeram64@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear PVR ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > The natal chart must show indications of the profession > > {flesh > > > > trade}, > > > > > > which may find later find a resonance in vargas. Here there > > is > > > no > > > > such > > > > > > connection in natal chart. Further, classics have stressed > > the > > > > > > importance of natal & navamsa chart much more than the > > dasamsa > > > which > > > > is > > > > > > given max. ONE point. Can a dasamsa over-ride the factors of > > > natal & > > > > > > navamsa ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would request thoughts on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > > > <pvr@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > > > > appearance > > > > > > and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > > > > environments > > > > > > under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa is > > the > > > > marital > > > > > > and dharmik environment, hora is the financial environment, > > > vimsamsa > > > > is > > > > > > the spiritual environment and so on. One's professional > > > environment > > > > is > > > > > > seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key chart for profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha > > trikonas) > > > show > > > > the > > > > > > career primarily. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. > > Venus > > > is an > > > > > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. > > > Saturn > > > > can > > > > > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn > > > > combination in > > > > > > the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one > > who > > > > provides > > > > > > comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of > > course, > > > this > > > > is > > > > > > secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will > > be > > > > > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant > > > point in > > > > the > > > > > > zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are > > close > > > to > > > > it. > > > > > > This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten > > > dasaamsas > > > > of > > > > > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, > > > Agni, > > > > Yama, > > > > > > Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > > > > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > > > > directions. > > > > > > They are the directions taken in life. That is why they rule > > > the > > > > > > dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional > > > direction > > > > > > covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling > > deity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > > > > position > > > > > > and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an > > > engineer or > > > > > > someone who transforms something into something else (like > > Agni > > > > cooks > > > > > > grains and transforms into food or processes these typed > > words > > > into > > > > > > knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in Yama's > > > dasamsa may > > > > > > make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, police or a > > > quality > > > > > > control engineer. And so on. In my experience, dasamsa ruling > > > > deities > > > > > > give a very useful insight, on top of the signs and planets > > > involved > > > > in > > > > > > D-10. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top > > > and " Amsa > > > > rulers " > > > > > > tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the > > window > > > to get > > > > the > > > > > > popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. > > It > > > should > > > > > > then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and other > > > > bodies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be > > > > prominent in > > > > > > the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such > > > disrespected > > > > or > > > > > > otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules > > > over the > > > > > > southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She > > > causes > > > > fear, > > > > > > adharma and disorder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may > > show > > > work > > > > > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or > > > visionary > > > > > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, > > > > planets in > > > > > > Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and > > other > > > > shady > > > > > > and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important > > > planets > > > > > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in > > > Nirriti's > > > > > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in > > > the 6th > > > > > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd > > > house are > > > > both > > > > > > in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between > > > Nirriti > > > > and > > > > > > arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will work > > in > > > > shady > > > > > > ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see > > > > sexuality > > > > > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha > > > drekkana > > > > must > > > > > > exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention > > > the > > > > point > > > > > > so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's > > > interactions > > > > and > > > > > > relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, > > > Sukra > > > > > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, > > > shows > > > > sexual > > > > > > relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. > > the > > > arudha > > > > > > pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > > > > religious > > > > > > relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's > > > Guru > > > > > > darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it > > (all > > > in > > > > D-10) > > > > > > and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > > > > foreigners > > > > > > in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th > > lord > > > who is > > > > in > > > > > > Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve sexual > > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a > > few > > > > points. > > > > > > Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of > > > 2nd and > > > > > > 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are > > the > > > key > > > > points > > > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > ----------------------- -- > > -- > > > ----- > > > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > > ----------------------- -- > > -- > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " sreeram srinivas " > > > sreeram64@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4- 1976, > > > 00:50 > > > > hrs, > > > > > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get > > combinations > > > in > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Narsimha, First I will introduce myself. I am a student of Bhaskarji, stay in his area, and take his classes once a week. I entered astrology field as was having problems in marital Life, and needed some support to live on. Please know that I am not spokesperson for Bhaskarji and he does not presently know what mails I have been posting to whom, but in the weekend I will update him to my mails posted, regarding him. You have mentioned - // How dharmik she is, how she actually thinks and feels about her career, how her career is affecting her physically etc are all unknown to me. If I were trying to guess those aspects, I would be looking at rasi and navamsa in conjunction with dasamsa. To analyze her professional environment in a vaccum, dasamsa is sufficient for me. To link it to others aspects of her personality, I need other charts.// Do not please mind my asking so, I just need to know that for checking the Dharmic aspects of ones Life, you have just accepted in above Lines, that you refer to the Rasi and navamsa. Now as far as i remember, when reading spiritualism for Mr.Lalit Mishra, you have just referred and pointed out the varga charts, and not laid emphasis on the navamsha. Am I right ? Or do i forget ? If this is the case, then may I ask you, why this irregularity. Pardon me if I sound audacious, for Bhaskarji does respect you a lot, and I have often heard him speak your name with respect, and holding you in high esteem. Sonam. , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > > While Narasimha Ji has very nicely given the finer nuances of the > D-10, he > > has not given his observations on the natal chart as also the navamsha, > > without which any dissection of dashmansh is redundant. > > All I know is the lady's profession and nothing else. How dharmik she > is, how she actually thinks and feels about her career, how her career > is affecting her physically etc are all unknown to me. If I were > trying to guess those aspects, I would be looking at rasi and navamsa > in conjunction with dasamsa. To analyze her professional environment > in a vaccum, dasamsa is sufficient for me. To link it to others > aspects of her personality, I need other charts. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Namaste Sri Sreeram Can you please check if this girl had a love affair which turned sour later? A bad break up. She is possibly sexually deviant since Mars, the 12th lord is in the 7th in Rahu's nakshatra and aspected by Rahu. 8th lord in the 10th house is the 2nd indication aspected by 3rd lord Saturn. Sun in the gandata sthana is unable to help protect her Bhagya. Exalted Venus in a dual sign with Venus in own Navamsha is likely to give her excess desire, but, this is not the reason for her to take to prostitution. A fall from grace in work is more like a combined effect of all of the above. Sadly, every benefic in her chart is in the nakshtra of a malefic. Can you also check if she has taken a loan and using this method to repay the same? Did she get into prostitution in Rahu-Moon dasha? If you are somehow in touch with her, please ask if currently she wants to get out of this profession or not? I shall be grateful if you can provide answers to the four queries. Thanks and Regards Bharat On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:03 AM, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, 00:50 hrs, > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in it. > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Bhaskar, " Pyaare maan gaye " but you left some lapses in your acting.As you addressed as Dear Narsimha in place of Narsimha JI.While you declared yourself student of Bhaskar ji. For himself Bhaskar ji & for great astrologer only Narsimha,failed even acting too. Ratnaakar sonam_jismani <sonam_jismani wrote: Dear Narsimha, First I will introduce myself. I am a student of Bhaskarji, stay in his area, and take his classes once a week. I entered astrology field as was having problems in marital Life, and needed some support to live on. Please know that I am not spokesperson for Bhaskarji and he does not presently know what mails I have been posting to whom, but in the weekend I will update him to my mails posted, regarding him. You have mentioned - // How dharmik she is, how she actually thinks and feels about her career, how her career is affecting her physically etc are all unknown to me. If I were trying to guess those aspects, I would be looking at rasi and navamsa in conjunction with dasamsa. To analyze her professional environment in a vaccum, dasamsa is sufficient for me. To link it to others aspects of her personality, I need other charts.// Do not please mind my asking so, I just need to know that for checking the Dharmic aspects of ones Life, you have just accepted in above Lines, that you refer to the Rasi and navamsa. Now as far as i remember, when reading spiritualism for Mr.Lalit Mishra, you have just referred and pointed out the varga charts, and not laid emphasis on the navamsha. Am I right ? Or do i forget ? If this is the case, then may I ask you, why this irregularity. Pardon me if I sound audacious, for Bhaskarji does respect you a lot, and I have often heard him speak your name with respect, and holding you in high esteem. Sonam. , " Narasimha Rao " wrote: > > Namaste, > > > While Narasimha Ji has very nicely given the finer nuances of the > D-10, he > > has not given his observations on the natal chart as also the navamsha, > > without which any dissection of dashmansh is redundant. > > All I know is the lady's profession and nothing else. How dharmik she > is, how she actually thinks and feels about her career, how her career > is affecting her physically etc are all unknown to me. If I were > trying to guess those aspects, I would be looking at rasi and navamsa > in conjunction with dasamsa. To analyze her professional environment > in a vaccum, dasamsa is sufficient for me. To link it to others > aspects of her personality, I need other charts. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > --- visit http://www.astrolife.com for horoscopes,expert services, remedies and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 The point is,that Bhaskarji indeed respects him, but must i respect the man who caused my Guru so much anguish, by supporting the man with false ids ? Again you are deviating from the issue I put up. Why could you not notice the clear relation of the 3 ids in the example i cited for your notice, and why did you notice relation in my id with Bhaskarji which does not exist by any means ? Your answer will provide the other members the food to form a opinion on you, whether you are one of the evil allies of these false ids, or actually a noble soul, who is here to learn astrology, as mentioned by You. I am no more interested in responding to your mails unless they are positive and show your innocence in the whole episode. The members here will understand anyway. Sonam. , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: > > Bhaskar, > " Pyaare maan gaye " but you left some lapses in > your acting.As you addressed as Dear Narsimha in place of > Narsimha JI.While you declared yourself student of Bhaskar ji. > For himself Bhaskar ji & for great astrologer only Narsimha,failed > even acting too. > > Ratnaakar > > sonam_jismani <sonam_jismani wrote: > Dear Narsimha, > > First I will introduce myself. I am a > student of Bhaskarji, stay in his > area, and take his classes once a week. > I entered astrology field as was > having problems in marital Life, > and needed some support to live on. > Please know that I am not spokesperson for > Bhaskarji and he does not presently know > what mails I have been posting to whom, > but in the weekend I will update > him to my mails posted, regarding him. > > You have mentioned - > // How dharmik she > is, how she actually thinks and feels about her > career, how her career is affecting her physically > etc are all unknown to me. If I were trying to > guess those aspects, I would be looking at rasi > and navamsa in conjunction with dasamsa. To analyze > her professional environment in a vaccum, dasamsa > is sufficient for me. To link it to others > aspects of her personality, I need other charts.// > > Do not please mind my asking so, I just need to know > that for checking the Dharmic aspects of ones Life, > you have just accepted in above Lines, > that you refer to the Rasi and navamsa. Now as > far as i remember, when reading spiritualism for > Mr.Lalit Mishra, you have just referred and pointed > out the varga charts, and not laid emphasis on the > navamsha. Am I right ? Or do i forget ? If this is > the case, then may I ask you, why this irregularity. > > Pardon me if I sound audacious, for Bhaskarji does > respect you a lot, and I have often heard him > speak your name with respect, and holding you in > high esteem. > > Sonam. , " Narasimha Rao " > wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > > While Narasimha Ji has very nicely given the finer nuances of the > > D-10, he > > > has not given his observations on the natal chart as also the > navamsha, > > > without which any dissection of dashmansh is redundant. > > > > All I know is the lady's profession and nothing else. How dharmik > she > > is, how she actually thinks and feels about her career, how her > career > > is affecting her physically etc are all unknown to me. If I were > > trying to guess those aspects, I would be looking at rasi and > navamsa > > in conjunction with dasamsa. To analyze her professional > environment > > in a vaccum, dasamsa is sufficient for me. To link it to others > > aspects of her personality, I need other charts. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > -------------------------------- - > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > -------------------------------- - > > > > > > --- > > visit http://www.astrolife.com for horoscopes,expert services, remedies and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Namaste Narasimha ji It was certainly not my intention to bring the discussions to a level of matsarya or ego,though aggression did arise from both sides (supporters and defenders) in the past. It is not at all a criticism against your astrological scholarship,nor did i mean that you are only into post-mortem.You have given succesful predictions in the past.I agree with the dishonesty regarding quizzes ,which started from the vedic astrology group itself. Known chart interpretations using umpteen principles(violating sequence of fundamental priorities(in my view)) are quite common in contemporary world. I would like to state that,though these questions can be interpreted as an assertion of my strong convictions,what really matters, is the scrutiny of substance (if any) in my assertions.I request that we may not get personal here. I have pointed to different yardsticks being used.Please verify if any fact is there. If as per one interpretation deities can override Basic principles - (Rashi-chakra, karma-bhava,amsha nadha of karma bhava(from lagna,chandra,surya) grahas in karma bhava AND even strength of grahas and lords in ''karma bhava of varga chakra(your view)'' - then why is this saturn which is in Anantas dashamsha ignored and analyzed as - tempting her to do lowly acts ? We have seen umpteen ''Dharamamsha chakra'' analysis,while it is ignored in this case.Why was this exclusion during analysis of immoral tarffic. This is simply my point.By ignoring and including points based on convenience we are satisfying ourselves and simultaneously convincing others.More so by virtue of your tall stature.People take your words with more seriousness than what pradeep writes.One should be aware of this power and faith, before one reaches fast conclusions is my humble request. I am only countering your belief that ''amshas exist as a chakra outside the rashi chakra - like a full rashi chart'', and especially your belief that - varga chakra when taken in isolation can explain ''some area fully'' without linking it to rashi.No system in this world works in isolation.Jyotisha is a HOLISTIC shasthra.Let it be Vastu shasthra which speaks about elevation of Ishana Kon as compared to Nirrirti or Ayurveda which talks about tridoshas,or upanishads which talks about brahmanda pindanda,it all points to a system a purusha which has to studied as a whole. You may hold different views.There is nothing personal. Regards Pradeep , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > > I have couple of questions to Narasimha ji- > > I realize that you don't really have any questions to me. Rather than > a question to me, this is a statement of your strong opinions! > > > Please don't think i am being sarcastic here.Haven't we seen hundreds > > of post-mortem analysis/articles like the above(i am not pointing at > > you alone).Can you honestly say no?.I am not being over critical. > > > > I would request you to study this chart from the fundamental angles > > and check if you can get any clues. > > Post mortems are easier than balancing multiple factors in a real > world situation and giving a confident prediction or reading. But it > is wrong to think that Jyotishis only do post mortems. But it is > difficult to recreate on lists what one does privately with a client > who faithfully co-operates in the whole birthtime rectification > process and tries to get help rather than test and prove wrong. > > In the early days of vedic astrology , we used to have > puzzles in the earnest and several were solved correctly. We also had > several predictions that were made to people, which came true in time. > > Unfortunately, as politics increases in a list, one's trust in others > decreases and one cannot participate in puzzles freely. After all, one > can give wrong data and not give enough information for rectification. > Or worse, puzzle giver can make false statements before or after the > puzzle is solved, just to show an astrologer in poor light. Or one can > rig a puzzle and reveal the answer to friends beforehand. > > I am not interested in proving anything to anybody. I got involved in > this thread and shared the little I knew, because someone said he was > confused and wanted some direction. If this comes down to proving > things and egos, I have to walk away.. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Narasimha ji > > > > (To respected members - Dasamsa deities are purely based on natal > > degrees of planets and not based on bhavas in varga chakra). > > > > I have couple of questions to Narasimha ji- > > > > If you were not aware of the profession of this lady,what would have > > been your guess?. > > > > As per you,planets in Ananta's dasamsa,gives rise to spiritual rise > > and upliftment.For this lady Saturn is in Anantas dashamsha as ''9th > > lord''.Planets in Ananta's dasamsa indicate activities related to > > spiritual rise and upliftment as per you.If so why is this Saturn > > (if ''placed in 10th'') making her do lowly acts? - Do we have > > different yard sticks. > > > > Now if shri Srinivas had said this Lady is a saint - Then how will be > > our interpretation? > > > > ''Saturn/Venus shows Tapaswi,in the 10th house of Dashamasha,in > > satwik pisces,with lord Guru exalted.She is a reformer with Guru in > > nirrirti(you have mentioned +ve and -ve). > > Navamsha - In dharmamsha chakra this lady has venus joining spiritual > > ketu in lagna.Dharma karmadhipathi yoga with exalted jupiter and > > saturn/moon combination indicating a perfect saint or tapaswi''. > > > > Please don't think i am being sarcastic here.Haven't we seen hundreds > > of post-mortem analysis/articles like the above(i am not pointing at > > you alone).Can you honestly say no?.I am not being over critical. > > > > I would request you to study this chart from the fundamental angles > > and check if you can get any clues. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > I wish this lady a happy birthday! > > > > > > I look at dasamsa for profession. Rasi chart shows physical > > appearance and physical existence. Various divisional charts show the > > environments under which this physical existence takes place. Navamsa > > is the marital and dharmik environment, hora is the financial > > environment, vimsamsa is the spiritual environment and so on. One's > > professional environment is seen from dasamsa (D-10). It is the key > > chart for profession. > > > > > > In D-10 chart, the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses (artha trikonas) show > > the career primarily. > > > > > > The 10th house in her D-10 contains Venus and Saturn. Venus is an > > important planet for showing a profession relating to sex. Saturn can > > show something considered lowly. To me, this Venus-Saturn combination > > in the 10th house in D-10 is the key. > > > > > > The 2nd lord Moon is debilitated in 6th. Moon is the one who > > provides comfort and can show a career in comforting others. Of > > course, this is secondary and the above combination sets the tone. > > > > > > The 10th lord Jupiter is exalted in 2nd in D-10. She will be > > successful and make good money. > > > > > > In natal rasi chart, karma sahama (sahama = significant point in > > the zodiac, karma = work) is in Libra and Rahu and Mandi are close to > > it. This can also show some undesirable work. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > There is another important factor to consider. The ten dasaamsas of > > each rasi are ruled by the rulers of ten directions - Indra, Agni, > > Yama, Nirriti, Varuna, Vayu, Kubera, Isana, Brahma and Ananta. This > > information is taught by Parasara, but unused by most people. > > > > > > The directions showed by dikpalakas are not just physical > > directions. They are the directions taken in life. That is why they > > rule the dasamsas, which show professional life. Each professional > > direction covers certain activities, as represented by the ruling > > deity. > > > > > > For example, planets in Indra's dasamsa may give a powerful > > position and authority. Planets in Agni's dasamsa may make one an > > engineer or someone who transforms something into something else > > (like Agni cooks grains and transforms into food or processes these > > typed words into knowledge in the brain of the reader). Planets in > > Yama's dasamsa may make one an enforcer of rules, like a soldier, > > police or a quality control engineer. And so on. In my experience, > > dasamsa ruling deities give a very useful insight, on top of the > > signs and planets involved in D-10. > > > > > > In JHora, you can select the " Basics " tab at the top and " Amsa > > rulers " tab at the bottom. Click the right mouse button in the window > > to get the popup menu and select " Dasamsa (D-10) " in the pop-up menu. > > It should then show the dasamsa ruling deities of all planets and > > other bodies. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > If you look at the amsa rulers of D-10, Nirriti should be prominent > > in the chart of a person involved in flesh trade or such disrespected > > or otherwise considered undesirable professions. Nirriti rules over > > the southwestern direction physically. She is a demoness. She causes > > fear, adharma and disorder. > > > > > > On the positive side, planets in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work > > related to revolutionary and cutting edge technologies or visionary > > reformers who break rules and barriers. On the negative side, planets > > in Nirriti's dasamsa may show work in underground, mafia and other > > shady and disrespected areas etc. > > > > > > The moment I read your post, I suspected some important planets > > associated with the 2nd, 6th and 10th houses would be in Nirriti's > > dasamsa. I checked. The 2nd lord Moon who is debilitated in the 6th > > house and the 10th lord Jupiter who is exalted in the 2nd house are > > both in Nirriti's dasamsa. Thus, there is a strong link between > > Nirriti and arhta trikonas, including the 10th lord. Thus, she will > > work in shady ways and make money in shady ways. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > In addition, somanatha drekkana chart is important to see sexuality > > and sexual activity. Links between dasamsa and somanatha drekkana > > must exist. But I will leave it for now. I wanted to just mention the > > point so that interested readers can figure it out themselves. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Darapada (arudha pada of the 7th house) shows one's interactions > > and relationships with others. Venus being the karaka for sex, Sukra > > darapada, i.e. the ardha pada of the 7th house from Venus, shows > > sexual relationships with others. Similarly, Guru darapada, i.e. the > > arudha pada of the 7th house from Jupiter, can show intellectual and > > religious relationships with others. For example, Swami Vivekananda's > > Guru darapada was in the 7th house in Aquarius with Rahu in it (all > > in D-10) and hence he had many religious/spiritual relationships with > > foreigners in his career. Anyway, here Sukra darapada contains 10th > > lord who is in Nirriti's dasamsa. So her profession can involve > > sexual relationships. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Jyotisha is an ocean. I know a little bit and presented a few > > points. Venus-Saturn comvbination in 10th in D-10 and association of > > 2nd and 10th houses in D-10 with planets in Nirriti's dasamsa are the > > key points IMHO. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------------- -- > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------------- -- > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I recently came a across a birth data Female, 14-4-1976, > > 00:50 hrs, > > > > Surat is into flesh trade. I am unable to get combinations in > > it. > > > > Would appreciate members to analyse and comment. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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