PVR ji,,specially for you. A mail Fwd from Jyotish remedies.

[Guest guest]

Dear PVR ji,

 

this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

Jyotish Remedies forum.

 

Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

chart supports.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

, " akschharsmn " <tolalit

wrote:

 

BhaskarJi,

 

Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why this

crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest daughter, is

that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and afflicted

by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last month 3

days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit astrology too

and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as follows -

 

28th June 1961, 10.14am

16.45N 81.09 E

Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

 

I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's crime

history.

 

This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H house

lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

 

Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published by Rupa

in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and domestic

discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and more

bluster.

 

What u think about horoscope of this man ?

 

best regards,

Akschhar

[Guest guest]

Tarunji

 

I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that group, as

it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep respect

for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old flames, or we

risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

 

Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal vendettas.

Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an objective

analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used. If you

feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with your own?

At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on Jyotish

principles!

 

Thank you,

 

Maniv

 

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear PVR ji,

>

> this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

> Jyotish Remedies forum.

>

> Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

> going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

> chart supports.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> , " akschharsmn " <tolalit@>

> wrote:

>

> BhaskarJi,

>

> Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why this

> crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest daughter, is

> that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and afflicted

> by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last month 3

> days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit astrology too

> and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as follows -

>

> 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> 16.45N 81.09 E

> Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

>

> I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's crime

> history.

>

> This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H house

> lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

> excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

>

> Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published by Rupa

> in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

> problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and domestic

> discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and more

> bluster.

>

> What u think about horoscope of this man ?

>

> best regards,

> Akschhar

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

 

I fully agree with you, but do you not feel that astrologers should get

feedback for their predictions ?? It is still within the part of

Jyotish only.

 

My two cents.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

, " maniv_pathak " <maniv_pathak

wrote:

>

> Tarunji

>

> I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that group, as

> it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep respect

> for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old flames, or we

> risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

>

> Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal vendettas.

> Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an objective

> analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used. If you

> feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with your own?

> At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on Jyotish

> principles!

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

> , " Tarun " tarun.virgo@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear PVR ji,

> >

> > this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

> > Jyotish Remedies forum.

> >

> > Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

> > going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

> > chart supports.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > , " akschharsmn " <tolalit@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > BhaskarJi,

> >

> > Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why this

> > crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest daughter, is

> > that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and afflicted

> > by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last month 3

> > days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit astrology too

> > and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as follows -

> >

> > 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> > 16.45N 81.09 E

> > Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

> >

> > I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's crime

> > history.

> >

> > This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H house

> > lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> > book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

> > excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

> >

> > Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published by Rupa

> > in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

> > problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and domestic

> > discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and more

> > bluster.

> >

> > What u think about horoscope of this man ?

> >

> > best regards,

> > Akschhar

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Srinivas, Tarun

 

Muniv is right

this battle became so bad due to bringing this grp's post by BM on LM into

JR and then back and forth, then who is right BM OR PVNji etc which were not

based on arguements in astrology but personal views and worse a revenge

reading because LM wrote a v -ve reading of BM, BM FELT compelled to return

the same in more hate in it, if it was limited to just astrological coments

such flare ups won't happen esp knowing that BOTH ERRED and to such low

levels, threats, abuses, curses did not help either but on the contrary

lowered the image of the subject and forums more

 

and I agree what PVNji has said time will tell and all he said it is a

matter of time which is nearly another 8 yrs from now it is far greater a

problem to walk the 8 yrs with careful planing and rise up the ladder or

just fall below in depths a snake and latter game ahead for him from now

 

phe has to reform or perish after loosing whatever spirtual gain he has.

we knew many bad p[l have reformed so has LM sucha potential, rest left to

him

 

Best wishes

 

 

On 4/7/08, maniv_pathak <maniv_pathak wrote:

>

> Tarunji

>

> I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that group, as

> it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep respect

> for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old flames, or we

> risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

>

> Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal vendettas.

> Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an objective

> analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used. If you

> feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with your own?

> At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on Jyotish

> principles!

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

> <%40>,

> " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

> >

> > Dear PVR ji,

> >

> > this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

> > Jyotish Remedies forum.

> >

> > Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

> > going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

> > chart supports.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > <%40>,

> " akschharsmn " <tolalit@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > BhaskarJi,

> >

> > Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why this

> > crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest daughter, is

> > that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and afflicted

> > by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last month 3

> > days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit astrology too

> > and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as follows -

> >

> > 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> > 16.45N 81.09 E

> > Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

> >

> > I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's crime

> > history.

> >

> > This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H house

> > lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> > book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

> > excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

> >

> > Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published by Rupa

> > in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

> > problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and domestic

> > discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and more

> > bluster.

> >

> > What u think about horoscope of this man ?

> >

> > best regards,

> > Akschhar

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Thank you,

 

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--------

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[Guest guest]

Whoever is having problem donot read the message

its not necssary to read each mail for those not interested.

 

 

, " maniv_pathak "

<maniv_pathak wrote:

>

> Tarunji

>

> I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that group,

as

> it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep

respect

> for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old flames, or

we

> risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

>

> Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal vendettas.

> Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an

objective

> analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used. If

you

> feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with your

own?

> At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on

Jyotish

> principles!

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

> , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear PVR ji,

> >

> > this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

> > Jyotish Remedies forum.

> >

> > Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

> > going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

> > chart supports.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > , " akschharsmn " <tolalit@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > BhaskarJi,

> >

> > Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why

this

> > crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest

daughter, is

> > that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and

afflicted

> > by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last month

3

> > days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit astrology

too

> > and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as

follows -

> >

> > 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> > 16.45N 81.09 E

> > Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

> >

> > I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's crime

> > history.

> >

> > This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H

house

> > lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> > book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

> > excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

> >

> > Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published by

Rupa

> > in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

> > problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and domestic

> > discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and

more

> > bluster.

> >

> > What u think about horoscope of this man ?

> >

> > best regards,

> > Akschhar

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sreeram ji

 

My interpretation of the analysis was that it was weighted more

heavily with guidance and less prediction. Also, the indication of

spiritual potential was clearly underpinned by a prerequisite of

channelling (and not draining) aggressive energy for spiritual

purposes.

 

Of course, a misuse of aggressive energy can give rise to disturbing

behaviour. If we advise someone that should you take path A, X is

possible, but if you take path B, X is impossible, and path B is

still taken, ultimately, with whom does the error lay?

 

Thank you,

 

Maniv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

>

> I fully agree with you, but do you not feel that astrologers should

get

> feedback for their predictions ?? It is still within the part of

> Jyotish only.

>

> My two cents.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

> , " maniv_pathak " <maniv_pathak@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Tarunji

> >

> > I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that group,

as

> > it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep

respect

> > for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old flames, or

we

> > risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

> >

> > Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal vendettas.

> > Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an

objective

> > analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used. If

you

> > feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with your

own?

> > At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on

Jyotish

> > principles!

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > , " Tarun " tarun.virgo@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear PVR ji,

> > >

> > > this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

> > > Jyotish Remedies forum.

> > >

> > > Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

> > > going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

> > > chart supports.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > , " akschharsmn "

<tolalit@>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > BhaskarJi,

> > >

> > > Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why

this

> > > crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest

daughter, is

> > > that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and

afflicted

> > > by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last

month 3

> > > days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit

astrology too

> > > and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as

follows -

> > >

> > > 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> > > 16.45N 81.09 E

> > > Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

> > >

> > > I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's crime

> > > history.

> > >

> > > This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H

house

> > > lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> > > book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

> > > excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

> > >

> > > Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published by

Rupa

> > > in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

> > > problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and domestic

> > > discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and

more

> > > bluster.

> > >

> > > What u think about horoscope of this man ?

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > Akschhar

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

 

I appreciate and totally agree with your view point- NO second thoughts

on that. I only wanted Mr. P.V.R.Narasimha Rao to realize the mistake

he commited and realize that, for I have tremedous respect for him and

also we both belong to the same native place, age group.

 

It is also the duty of astrologer, to see the reality vs image projected

by planets and then take moderate.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

, " maniv_pathak " <maniv_pathak

wrote:

>

> Sreeram ji

>

> My interpretation of the analysis was that it was weighted more

> heavily with guidance and less prediction. Also, the indication of

> spiritual potential was clearly underpinned by a prerequisite of

> channelling (and not draining) aggressive energy for spiritual

> purposes.

>

> Of course, a misuse of aggressive energy can give rise to disturbing

> behaviour. If we advise someone that should you take path A, X is

> possible, but if you take path B, X is impossible, and path B is

> still taken, ultimately, with whom does the error lay?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Maniv

>

> , " sreeram srinivas "

> sreeram64@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

> >

> > I fully agree with you, but do you not feel that astrologers should

> get

> > feedback for their predictions ?? It is still within the part of

> > Jyotish only.

> >

> > My two cents.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Sreeram_Srinivas

>

[Guest guest]

Sreeramji

 

We are in agreement on most points, except your stance that a mistake

was made. Reality is a dynamic, ever changing concept and a Jyotishi

must be bold, objective and consistent in his guidance and

interpretations. Should the chart indicate spiritual potential then

it must be declared. The emphasis, however, in this instance was on

potential; the point most seemed to have missed.

 

Thank you for your comments,

 

Maniv

 

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

>

> I appreciate and totally agree with your view point- NO second

thoughts

> on that. I only wanted Mr. P.V.R.Narasimha Rao to realize the

mistake

> he commited and realize that, for I have tremedous respect for him

and

> also we both belong to the same native place, age group.

>

> It is also the duty of astrologer, to see the reality vs image

projected

> by planets and then take moderate.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

>

> , " maniv_pathak " <maniv_pathak@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Sreeram ji

> >

> > My interpretation of the analysis was that it was weighted more

> > heavily with guidance and less prediction. Also, the indication of

> > spiritual potential was clearly underpinned by a prerequisite of

> > channelling (and not draining) aggressive energy for spiritual

> > purposes.

> >

> > Of course, a misuse of aggressive energy can give rise to

disturbing

> > behaviour. If we advise someone that should you take path A, X is

> > possible, but if you take path B, X is impossible, and path B is

> > still taken, ultimately, with whom does the error lay?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > , " sreeram srinivas "

> > sreeram64@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

> > >

> > > I fully agree with you, but do you not feel that astrologers

should

> > get

> > > feedback for their predictions ?? It is still within the part of

> > > Jyotish only.

> > >

> > > My two cents.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant ji,

 

in my view, being a senior astrologer doesnt make one to certify any

persons doings as good and spiritual.

 

There are many factors which one over looks,

 

and in true sense ....what is the real spiritualism.

 

i will say if the person is spiritual ...go and do tapasya in

Himalay..why sitting in pleasure world and earning money and

enjoying all world pleasures.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

, " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar wrote:

>

> Dear Srinivas, Tarun

>

> Muniv is right

> this battle became so bad due to bringing this grp's post by BM on

LM into

> JR and then back and forth, then who is right BM OR PVNji etc

which were not

> based on arguements in astrology but personal views and worse a

revenge

> reading because LM wrote a v -ve reading of BM, BM FELT compelled

to return

> the same in more hate in it, if it was limited to just

astrological coments

> such flare ups won't happen esp knowing that BOTH ERRED and to

such low

> levels, threats, abuses, curses did not help either but on the

contrary

> lowered the image of the subject and forums more

>

> and I agree what PVNji has said time will tell and all he said it

is a

> matter of time which is nearly another 8 yrs from now it is far

greater a

> problem to walk the 8 yrs with careful planing and rise up the

ladder or

> just fall below in depths a snake and latter game ahead for him

from now

>

> phe has to reform or perish after loosing whatever spirtual gain

he has.

> we knew many bad p[l have reformed so has LM sucha potential, rest

left to

> him

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> On 4/7/08, maniv_pathak <maniv_pathak wrote:

> >

> > Tarunji

> >

> > I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that group,

as

> > it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep

respect

> > for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old flames,

or we

> > risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

> >

> > Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal vendettas.

> > Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an

objective

> > analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used. If

you

> > feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with your

own?

> > At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on

Jyotish

> > principles!

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear PVR ji,

> > >

> > > this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

> > > Jyotish Remedies forum.

> > >

> > > Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

> > > going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

> > > chart supports.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > " akschharsmn " <tolalit@>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > BhaskarJi,

> > >

> > > Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why

this

> > > crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest

daughter, is

> > > that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and

afflicted

> > > by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last

month 3

> > > days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit

astrology too

> > > and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as

follows -

> > >

> > > 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> > > 16.45N 81.09 E

> > > Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

> > >

> > > I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's

crime

> > > history.

> > >

> > > This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H

house

> > > lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> > > book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

> > > excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

> > >

> > > Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published

by Rupa

> > > in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

> > > problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and

domestic

> > > discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and

more

> > > bluster.

> > >

> > > What u think about horoscope of this man ?

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > Akschhar

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Thank you,

>

> Prashantkumar

> --------

> For Consultation charges please write to me

> --------

> G B Prashant Kumar

> `Deepalakshmi' 1-B, 6/4, Fifth street

> Nandanam Extn,

> Chennai 600035, INDIA

> MOBILE 9840051861

> TEL 42110863/24340186

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maniv Pathak,

 

Your role here in this List too, is like the lizard or chameleon, who

changes its colours, to remain in the green park.You talk much on

what a Jyotishi must be.What are you amongs these ?

I sincerely doubt if you have ever made a single prediction in Your

Life or ever even read basic literature on astrology, available

free oon the nets . Your role on this List is a question mark. You

have been a active participant for creating many differences in this

List, but the Moderator with his high intelligence, comfortably

chooses to overlook this fact.

 

Explain yourself what Jyotishi are you ? Do you fit in the lecture

you just gave on who must be a Jyotishi.

And if you are not one, then why giving lectures ? Become a Master

first, then teach students, which here are not any.

 

Lal Mirchi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " maniv_pathak "

<maniv_pathak wrote:

>

> Sreeramji

>

> We are in agreement on most points, except your stance that a

mistake

> was made. Reality is a dynamic, ever changing concept and a

Jyotishi

> must be bold, objective and consistent in his guidance and

> interpretations. Should the chart indicate spiritual potential then

> it must be declared. The emphasis, however, in this instance was on

> potential; the point most seemed to have missed.

>

> Thank you for your comments,

>

> Maniv

>

>

> , " sreeram srinivas "

> <sreeram64@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

> >

> > I appreciate and totally agree with your view point- NO second

> thoughts

> > on that. I only wanted Mr. P.V.R.Narasimha Rao to realize the

> mistake

> > he commited and realize that, for I have tremedous respect for

him

> and

> > also we both belong to the same native place, age group.

> >

> > It is also the duty of astrologer, to see the reality vs image

> projected

> > by planets and then take moderate.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Sreeram_Srinivas

> >

> >

> > , " maniv_pathak "

<maniv_pathak@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Sreeram ji

> > >

> > > My interpretation of the analysis was that it was weighted more

> > > heavily with guidance and less prediction. Also, the indication

of

> > > spiritual potential was clearly underpinned by a prerequisite of

> > > channelling (and not draining) aggressive energy for spiritual

> > > purposes.

> > >

> > > Of course, a misuse of aggressive energy can give rise to

> disturbing

> > > behaviour. If we advise someone that should you take path A, X

is

> > > possible, but if you take path B, X is impossible, and path B is

> > > still taken, ultimately, with whom does the error lay?

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> > > , " sreeram srinivas "

> > > sreeram64@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

> > > >

> > > > I fully agree with you, but do you not feel that astrologers

> should

> > > get

> > > > feedback for their predictions ?? It is still within the part

of

> > > > Jyotish only.

> > > >

> > > > My two cents.

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

PVR has given his opinion , because he does not seem to have followed the

happenings on this group on one hand, and he is a very spiritual guy, so far

I know. It is flawed to some extent and I am sure we can give him positive

feedback.

 

Btw, I think he was born in 71 or 73.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

 

 

 

On 4/7/08, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

>

> I appreciate and totally agree with your view point- NO second thoughts

> on that. I only wanted Mr. P.V.R.Narasimha Rao to realize the mistake

> he commited and realize that, for I have tremedous respect for him and

> also we both belong to the same native place, age group.

>

> It is also the duty of astrologer, to see the reality vs image projected

> by planets and then take moderate.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

> <%40>,

> " maniv_pathak " <maniv_pathak

> wrote:

> >

> > Sreeram ji

> >

> > My interpretation of the analysis was that it was weighted more

> > heavily with guidance and less prediction. Also, the indication of

> > spiritual potential was clearly underpinned by a prerequisite of

> > channelling (and not draining) aggressive energy for spiritual

> > purposes.

> >

> > Of course, a misuse of aggressive energy can give rise to disturbing

> > behaviour. If we advise someone that should you take path A, X is

> > possible, but if you take path B, X is impossible, and path B is

> > still taken, ultimately, with whom does the error lay?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> > <%40>,

> " sreeram srinivas "

> > sreeram64@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

> > >

> > > I fully agree with you, but do you not feel that astrologers should

> > get

> > > feedback for their predictions ?? It is still within the part of

> > > Jyotish only.

> > >

> > > My two cents.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

Love is a fruit in season at all times,

and within the reach of every hand.

~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> will say if the person is spiritual ...go and do tapasya in

> > Himalay..why sitting in pleasure world and earning money and

> > enjoying all world pleasures.

> >

> >

> > __,_._,_ will say if the person is spiri

>

 

 

tarun, I dont know you and I dont know whether you are right on other

issues.But here you are certainly wrong. Let me make it clear that I am not

taking any side, I am just commenting on JUST this sentence.

 

Being in the world and also being spiritual is always possible, It has been

proved to us by many great people like Janaka, Vidura, prahlada, Bheeshma

and so on.

 

Of course, some people like Tukaram, surpassed even these people by being

extremely spiritual even though married.

 

hope this helps,

 

kishore patnaik

 

tual ...go and do tapasya in

> Himalay..why sitting in pleasure world and earning money and

> enjoying all world pleasures.

>

> _

>

 

 

 

--

Love is a fruit in season at all times,

and within the reach of every hand.

~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Kishore ji,

 

Can we talk of current world. ??

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

, " kishore patnaik "

<kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

> > will say if the person is spiritual ...go and do tapasya in

> > > Himalay..why sitting in pleasure world and earning money and

> > > enjoying all world pleasures.

> > >

> > >

> > > __,_._,_ will say if the person is spiri

> >

>

>

> tarun, I dont know you and I dont know whether you are right on

other

> issues.But here you are certainly wrong. Let me make it clear that

I am not

> taking any side, I am just commenting on JUST this sentence.

>

> Being in the world and also being spiritual is always possible, It

has been

> proved to us by many great people like Janaka, Vidura, prahlada,

Bheeshma

> and so on.

>

> Of course, some people like Tukaram, surpassed even these people

by being

> extremely spiritual even though married.

>

> hope this helps,

>

> kishore patnaik

>

> tual ...go and do tapasya in

> > Himalay..why sitting in pleasure world and earning money and

> > enjoying all world pleasures.

> >

> > _

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Love is a fruit in season at all times,

> and within the reach of every hand.

> ~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Kishore ji,

>

> Can we talk of current world. ??

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

 

 

 

I was born and brought up in a spiritual atmosphere. I do not claim that I

am a very spiritual guy, but I can say for certain that I have met many

householders who are indeed spiritual in their outlook and exude

spirituality.

 

Most interesting factor here is they were into such top jobs such as in

Indian civil services, Indian Foreign services etc. I am sure that if we

want to practice spiritulity by remaining in this world, it is possible.

 

We have to be guided such human values as Satya, Dharma, Shanti and Prema

and such principles as hurt never help ever. Always keep the Lord in mind.

 

hoep this helps,

 

kishore patnaik

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear friend,

 

It is unfortunate that my motives have been misinterpreted. However,

I apologise for any misperceptions that may have arisen, my only

objective was to calm the storm.

 

Thank you,

 

Maniv

 

 

, " lalmirchi72 " <lalmirchi72

wrote:

>

> Maniv Pathak,

>

> Your role here in this List too, is like the lizard or chameleon,

who

> changes its colours, to remain in the green park.You talk much on

> what a Jyotishi must be.What are you amongs these ?

> I sincerely doubt if you have ever made a single prediction in Your

> Life or ever even read basic literature on astrology, available

> free oon the nets . Your role on this List is a question mark. You

> have been a active participant for creating many differences in

this

> List, but the Moderator with his high intelligence, comfortably

> chooses to overlook this fact.

>

> Explain yourself what Jyotishi are you ? Do you fit in the lecture

> you just gave on who must be a Jyotishi.

> And if you are not one, then why giving lectures ? Become a Master

> first, then teach students, which here are not any.

>

> Lal Mirchi

>

>

>

>

, " maniv_pathak "

> <maniv_pathak@> wrote:

> >

> > Sreeramji

> >

> > We are in agreement on most points, except your stance that a

> mistake

> > was made. Reality is a dynamic, ever changing concept and a

> Jyotishi

> > must be bold, objective and consistent in his guidance and

> > interpretations. Should the chart indicate spiritual potential

then

> > it must be declared. The emphasis, however, in this instance was

on

> > potential; the point most seemed to have missed.

> >

> > Thank you for your comments,

> >

> > Maniv

> >

> >

> > , " sreeram srinivas "

> > <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

> > >

> > > I appreciate and totally agree with your view point- NO second

> > thoughts

> > > on that. I only wanted Mr. P.V.R.Narasimha Rao to realize

the

> > mistake

> > > he commited and realize that, for I have tremedous respect for

> him

> > and

> > > also we both belong to the same native place, age group.

> > >

> > > It is also the duty of astrologer, to see the reality vs image

> > projected

> > > by planets and then take moderate.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > >

> > >

> > > , " maniv_pathak "

> <maniv_pathak@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sreeram ji

> > > >

> > > > My interpretation of the analysis was that it was weighted

more

> > > > heavily with guidance and less prediction. Also, the

indication

> of

> > > > spiritual potential was clearly underpinned by a prerequisite

of

> > > > channelling (and not draining) aggressive energy for spiritual

> > > > purposes.

> > > >

> > > > Of course, a misuse of aggressive energy can give rise to

> > disturbing

> > > > behaviour. If we advise someone that should you take path A,

X

> is

> > > > possible, but if you take path B, X is impossible, and path B

is

> > > > still taken, ultimately, with whom does the error lay?

> > > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > > Maniv

> > > >

> > > > , " sreeram srinivas "

> > > > sreeram64@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. Maniv_Pathak ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I fully agree with you, but do you not feel that

astrologers

> > should

> > > > get

> > > > > feedback for their predictions ?? It is still within the

part

> of

> > > > > Jyotish only.

> > > > >

> > > > > My two cents.

> > > > >

> > > > > With regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tarun,

 

in the 1st place u need to know what is pirituality and what u think of it

is certainly flawed

 

does spirituality be only in tapasya, and Himalayas

 

all great thinkers, seers, philosophers for that matter even carl marx,

adolf hitler, sant binnderwala, too r spiritual except that what htey

believed matter was it for their and public good or just their own.

 

SPIRITUALITY IS A DEDICATED WAY OF LIVING WHATVER IT BE the spirit or Josh,

Lagan in a subject not sanyas as u claim it to be

 

a sanyasi can be spiritual but a spiritual can't be a sanyasi

 

again in this u have Sadhus -who are having families and spiritual, modest

and socalistin in nature

 

Bairagis r ones who give up everything and lives at public or natures mercy

are also spiritual, that they live on mercy as said than seeek a vocation to

support themselves

 

Hitler and Bhindrenwala etc too have spiritualism in them but that was for

the bad and distructive kind

 

and for heavens sake in ur defence of one HOT headed person verses another

don't humilate a person like PVNji who is way ahead of anyone of us

certainly tons over ur mentor

 

DID U NOT READ THE ocean of difference between the tow when BM accused PVNji

of many things and humilated him still PVNji replied to every post calmly,

patiently and not a word of slant, slur or abuse, in fact sometimes I had

also felt obliged to return back some of BMs hundereds of abuse mails on me,

but now I know it is better to emulate PVNji than be anywhere near BM

 

it is strenght not weakness to remain so. strenght of character I knew I had

faied a few times but in future will remain calm.

 

EVERY DARK CLOUDHS A SILVER LINING SO WAS THIS FOR ME.

 

Best wishes

 

 

 

 

 

On 4/7/08, Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant ji,

>

> in my view, being a senior astrologer doesnt make one to certify any

> persons doings as good and spiritual.

>

> There are many factors which one over looks,

>

> and in true sense ....what is the real spiritualism.

>

> i will say if the person is spiritual ...go and do tapasya in

> Himalay..why sitting in pleasure world and earning money and

> enjoying all world pleasures.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> <%40>,

> " astro desk "

> <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Srinivas, Tarun

> >

> > Muniv is right

> > this battle became so bad due to bringing this grp's post by BM on

> LM into

> > JR and then back and forth, then who is right BM OR PVNji etc

> which were not

> > based on arguements in astrology but personal views and worse a

> revenge

> > reading because LM wrote a v -ve reading of BM, BM FELT compelled

> to return

> > the same in more hate in it, if it was limited to just

> astrological coments

> > such flare ups won't happen esp knowing that BOTH ERRED and to

> such low

> > levels, threats, abuses, curses did not help either but on the

> contrary

> > lowered the image of the subject and forums more

> >

> > and I agree what PVNji has said time will tell and all he said it

> is a

> > matter of time which is nearly another 8 yrs from now it is far

> greater a

> > problem to walk the 8 yrs with careful planing and rise up the

> ladder or

> > just fall below in depths a snake and latter game ahead for him

> from now

> >

> > phe has to reform or perish after loosing whatever spirtual gain

> he has.

> > we knew many bad p[l have reformed so has LM sucha potential, rest

> left to

> > him

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> >

> > On 4/7/08, maniv_pathak <maniv_pathak wrote:

> > >

> > > Tarunji

> > >

> > > I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that group,

> as

> > > it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep

> respect

> > > for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old flames,

> or we

> > > risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

> > >

> > > Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal vendettas.

> > > Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an

> objective

> > > analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used. If

> you

> > > feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with your

> own?

> > > At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on

> Jyotish

> > > principles!

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > Maniv

> > >

> > >

<%40><%

> 40>,

> > > " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear PVR ji,

> > > >

> > > > this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar ji. on

> > > > Jyotish Remedies forum.

> > > >

> > > > Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when he is

> > > > going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system which his

> > > > chart supports.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > --- In

<%40>

> <%

> 40>,

> > > " akschharsmn " <tolalit@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > BhaskarJi,

> > > >

> > > > Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to why

> this

> > > > crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest

> daughter, is

> > > > that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and

> afflicted

> > > > by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last

> month 3

> > > > days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit

> astrology too

> > > > and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as

> follows -

> > > >

> > > > 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> > > > 16.45N 81.09 E

> > > > Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

> > > >

> > > > I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's

> crime

> > > > history.

> > > >

> > > > This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony and 5H

> house

> > > > lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> > > > book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers from

> > > > excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

> > > >

> > > > Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets " published

> by Rupa

> > > > in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase in

> > > > problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and

> domestic

> > > > discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life and

> more

> > > > bluster.

> > > >

> > > > What u think about horoscope of this man ?

> > > >

> > > > best regards,

> > > > Akschhar

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Prashantkumar

> > --------

> > For Consultation charges please write to me

> > --------

> > G B Prashant Kumar

> > `Deepalakshmi' 1-B, 6/4, Fifth street

> > Nandanam Extn,

> > Chennai 600035, INDIA

> > MOBILE 9840051861

> > TEL 42110863/24340186

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant ,

 

great to see your mail.

 

Definately your views are appreciable. but you cannot force your

views on me.

 

so you can write that in your " Prashant Kumar's " views you think

the following things.

 

I would please you not to create fire between Bhaskar ji and PVR ji.

I know you are trying to create a forum politics here.

Everyone here is enough intelligent for what you are doing.

 

I appreciate your other views on Spirituality.

 

....

 

Tarun Agarwal

 

, " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar wrote:

>

> Tarun,

>

> in the 1st place u need to know what is pirituality and what u

think of it

> is certainly flawed

>

> does spirituality be only in tapasya, and Himalayas

>

> all great thinkers, seers, philosophers for that matter even carl

marx,

> adolf hitler, sant binnderwala, too r spiritual except that what

htey

> believed matter was it for their and public good or just their own.

>

> SPIRITUALITY IS A DEDICATED WAY OF LIVING WHATVER IT BE the spirit

or Josh,

> Lagan in a subject not sanyas as u claim it to be

>

> a sanyasi can be spiritual but a spiritual can't be a sanyasi

>

> again in this u have Sadhus -who are having families and

spiritual, modest

> and socalistin in nature

>

> Bairagis r ones who give up everything and lives at public or

natures mercy

> are also spiritual, that they live on mercy as said than seeek a

vocation to

> support themselves

>

> Hitler and Bhindrenwala etc too have spiritualism in them but that

was for

> the bad and distructive kind

>

> and for heavens sake in ur defence of one HOT headed person verses

another

> don't humilate a person like PVNji who is way ahead of anyone of us

> certainly tons over ur mentor

>

> DID U NOT READ THE ocean of difference between the tow when BM

accused PVNji

> of many things and humilated him still PVNji replied to every post

calmly,

> patiently and not a word of slant, slur or abuse, in fact

sometimes I had

> also felt obliged to return back some of BMs hundereds of abuse

mails on me,

> but now I know it is better to emulate PVNji than be anywhere near

BM

>

> it is strenght not weakness to remain so. strenght of character I

knew I had

> faied a few times but in future will remain calm.

>

> EVERY DARK CLOUDHS A SILVER LINING SO WAS THIS FOR ME.

>

> Best wishes

>

>

>

>

>

> On 4/7/08, Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant ji,

> >

> > in my view, being a senior astrologer doesnt make one to certify

any

> > persons doings as good and spiritual.

> >

> > There are many factors which one over looks,

> >

> > and in true sense ....what is the real spiritualism.

> >

> > i will say if the person is spiritual ...go and do tapasya in

> > Himalay..why sitting in pleasure world and earning money and

> > enjoying all world pleasures.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > " astro desk "

> > <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Srinivas, Tarun

> > >

> > > Muniv is right

> > > this battle became so bad due to bringing this grp's post by

BM on

> > LM into

> > > JR and then back and forth, then who is right BM OR PVNji etc

> > which were not

> > > based on arguements in astrology but personal views and worse a

> > revenge

> > > reading because LM wrote a v -ve reading of BM, BM FELT

compelled

> > to return

> > > the same in more hate in it, if it was limited to just

> > astrological coments

> > > such flare ups won't happen esp knowing that BOTH ERRED and to

> > such low

> > > levels, threats, abuses, curses did not help either but on the

> > contrary

> > > lowered the image of the subject and forums more

> > >

> > > and I agree what PVNji has said time will tell and all he said

it

> > is a

> > > matter of time which is nearly another 8 yrs from now it is far

> > greater a

> > > problem to walk the 8 yrs with careful planing and rise up the

> > ladder or

> > > just fall below in depths a snake and latter game ahead for him

> > from now

> > >

> > > phe has to reform or perish after loosing whatever spirtual

gain

> > he has.

> > > we knew many bad p[l have reformed so has LM sucha potential,

rest

> > left to

> > > him

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > >

> > > On 4/7/08, maniv_pathak <maniv_pathak@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Tarunji

> > > >

> > > > I request you to kindly keep the messages from JR in that

group,

> > as

> > > > it is largely unmoderated, while this one is. We should keep

> > respect

> > > > for the moderator of this group. Please do not fan old

flames,

> > or we

> > > > risk a repeat of the earlier embarrassments.

> > > >

> > > > Let the discussion stay on Jyotish, and not personal

vendettas.

> > > > Narasimhaji has not sided with Lalitji, but simply given an

> > objective

> > > > analysis which is coherent with the methodology he has used.

If

> > you

> > > > feel that the analysis is flawed, why not counter it with

your

> > own?

> > > > At least that way all can learn from a stimulating debate on

> > Jyotish

> > > > principles!

> > > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > > Maniv

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>,

> > > > " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear PVR ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > this is a mail from you Favorite Lalit Mishra to Bhaskar

ji. on

> > > > > Jyotish Remedies forum.

> > > > >

> > > > > Suggest the level of Sprititualism he is having. and when

he is

> > > > > going to stop behaving like this. As per dasha system

which his

> > > > > chart supports.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

40>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > " akschharsmn " <tolalit@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > BhaskarJi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Take this case in ur consideration and enlighten us as to

why

> > this

> > > > > crooked mentally retarted person raped his own youngest

> > daughter, is

> > > > > that because of this native's jupitor being debilated and

> > afflicted

> > > > > by 8H lord saturn, The incident is believed to happen last

> > month 3

> > > > > days before girl's marriage, This man knows little bit

> > astrology too

> > > > > and currently resides in Mumbai, His Birth Details are as

> > follows -

> > > > >

> > > > > 28th June 1961, 10.14am

> > > > > 16.45N 81.09 E

> > > > > Eluru (Near Vijaywada in Andhra)

> > > > >

> > > > > I m from VijayWada Near Eluru, So, I know about criminal's

> > crime

> > > > > history.

> > > > >

> > > > > This henious man jupitor is both karka for the progiony

and 5H

> > house

> > > > > lord, Sri BV Raman has stated in the page 252 of his famous

> > > > > book " How to Judge a horoscope " that such a person suffers

from

> > > > > excitability and abnormal mental behavior.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sri A K khurana in his book " The Power of planets "

published

> > by Rupa

> > > > > in page 156 states Saturn in 6'th brings about an increase

in

> > > > > problems affecting humanity, all sorts of hardships and

> > domestic

> > > > > discord, severe illness and tissue problem. A humdrum life

and

> > more

> > > > > bluster.

> > > > >

> > > > > What u think about horoscope of this man ?

> > > > >

> > > > > best regards,

> > > > > Akschhar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

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