Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Namaste, Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in tradition. A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun as per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari and Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, by Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras better. For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet of Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati sa mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta is owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for most activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as per nakshatra sooktam. My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra rulerships as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. Just my 2 cents... Best regards, Narasimha Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> Spirituality: <> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > >Hari Om. > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > Best regards, > ashwini > > > > Hari Om. > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I think that > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good positions > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > negativities for us. > > > > > > Best regards, > > ashwini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dear Rao ji, Can you please share your views on Mercury in Pushya Nakshatra. Warm Regrds, Tarun , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in tradition. > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun as > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari and > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, by > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras > better. > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet of > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati sa > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta is > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for most > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as > per nakshatra sooktam. > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra rulerships > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > Just my 2 cents... > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > Spirituality: <> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > >Hari Om. > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > Best regards, > > ashwini > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I > think that > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good > positions > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > ashwini > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dear Sri Narasimha, This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam also emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari Dasa based ruler. Satya Sai Kolachina , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in tradition. > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun as > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari and > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, by > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras > better. > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet of > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati sa > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta is > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for most > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as > per nakshatra sooktam. > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra rulerships > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > Just my 2 cents... > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > Spirituality: <> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > >Hari Om. > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > Best regards, > > ashwini > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I > think that > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good > positions > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > ashwini > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dear Narshima, a good post, where can we find Nakshatra suktam and its delimitation of deities, if u have a list pl post it and also the different deities and their karakatvas also, the adhi devatas and prayarthi devatas of the stars like Bharini, kritika being Yama's Nakshatras no auspicious work is done but being born in them is considere d auspicious...! Best wishes On 4/3/08, Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in tradition. > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun as > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari and > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, by > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras > better. > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet of > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati sa > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta is > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for most > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as > per nakshatra sooktam. > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra rulerships > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > Just my 2 cents... > > Best regards, > Narasimha > ------------------------- > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/homam> > > > Spirituality: <> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org<http://www.vedicastrologer.org/> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org<http://www..org/> > > > ------------------------- > > > >Hari Om. > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > Best regards, > > ashwini > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I > think that > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good > positions > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > ashwini > > > -- Thank you, Prashantkumar -------- For Consultation charges please write to me -------- G B Prashant Kumar `Deepalakshmi' 1-B, 6/4, Fifth street Nandanam Extn, Chennai 600035, INDIA MOBILE 9840051861 TEL 42110863/24340186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dear Narasimha ji & Satya ji, Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra schemes and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but this nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, being used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored in terms of other principles) astrologers. Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr Raman. " 2) Sri Gautama Buddha The lord Lagna Moon – karaka for the mind – in the **constellation of Jupiter** – the divine planet- occupying the Navamsa of Mars, gave him an iron will, a strong determination and the urge to undiscouraged action. 21) Tippu Sultan .....the position of the 10th lord **in his own nakshatra** suggests that he could not have been a tyrant as he is represented to be. 30) Bala Gangadhara Tilak It may be asked whether Jupiter-Rahu association has not caused Guru- Chandala Yoga. The answer would be that the yoga stands neutralised by the fact that Rahu is in **the constellation of Mercury |**and is removed from Jupiter by nearly 10 degrees.Rahu's situation in the nakshatra of Mercury who is mokshastanadhipati and the entire combination receieving the aspect of Saturn from Mokshastana gave him a living faith in God. 66) George VI Dasa of Venus momentus. Venus no doubt caused Malavya Yoga and his strength par excellence especially that he is Lagna Lord : but because **he is in the nakshatra of Rahu **and somewhat afflicted in Navamsha, during Venus Dasa, the empire faced a crisis of first magnitude. " I skip such other lines. I think we should not mix one principle with other. What you say? Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam also > emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari Dasa > based ruler. > Dear Sir, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in > tradition. > > > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on > > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun > as > > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari > and > > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, > by > > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like > > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of > > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > > important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras > > better. > > > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet of > > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as > > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati > sa > > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta > > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta > is > > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is > > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra > > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as > > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for > most > > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling > > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as > > per nakshatra sooktam. > > > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra rulerships > > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > Spirituality: <> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > > > >Hari Om. > > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I > > think that > > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good > > positions > > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > ashwini > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 dear narasimha what is the significance of the snake (naga) for the ashlesha nakshatra. like you said it is not an auspicious that is true in some sense. but its mission is also dharma. often it seems that this nakshatra also leaves an imprint for others not for itself. can you expand on any of these ideas for me. namaskar, __________ Raja Gursahani (: 559.474.8576 ,: rajagursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Dear Prashant Kumar, > a good post, where can we find Nakshatra suktam and its delimitation of > deities, if u have a list pl post it If you get the book " Mantra Pushpam " (in Devanagari script) or " Saswara Veda Mantramulu " (in Telugu script) published by Ramakrishna Mutt, you can find nakshatra sooktam in it (with the intonation markings). On the internet, you can find the list at http://www.selfrealisation.net/Vedic Astrology/devata.htm Also, some detailed information on the qualities of these nakshatras (in addition to deities) is at: http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/bAstrHom.htm#twenty-seven%20nakshtras The above links only give the names. But nakshatra sooktam is not just names. It is a collection of Vedic chants for the 28 deities ruling the 28 nakshatras. Dear Saaji, > Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra schemes > and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but this > nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, being > used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored in terms > of other principles) astrologers. > Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr Raman. Yes, many " old astrologers " resort to such logic. However, my take is that these are relatively modern ideas. Parasara taught tens of dasas. When Vimsottari dasa is one among tens of dasas, what is the big point in taking planetary rulerships based on it always? Parasara never mentioned taking the Vimsottari based nakshatra rulerships for any purpose other than evaluating Vimsottari dasa. For me, Parasara is the highest watermark. Many " old astrologers " use only rasi and navamsa charts and only Vimsottari dasa. They use only 1% of the principles taught by Parasara. They rely on their spiritual strength, intuition and vaagbala more than the scientific aspects of astrology as taught by rishis. Dear Raja Gursahani, > what is the significance of the snake (naga) for the ashlesha nakshatra. > like you said it is not an auspicious that is true in some sense. but its > mission is also dharma. often it seems that this nakshatra also leaves an > imprint for others not for itself. can you expand on any of these ideas for > me. I must take a step back here and say that nothing is absolutely bad or absolutely good. Everything has positive and negative shades to it. Some are more negative and some are more positive, but there are modifications based on other factors. Aslesha owned by snake is considered an inauspicious nakshatra, but snakes also represent several positive things. In several cases, I saw planets associated with Asresha giving powerful spiritual experiences related to Kundalini, when other factors are also conducive. One example is Swami Sivananda, founder of Divine Life Society. He is considered by some to be a re-incarnation of Maharshi Vasishtha. His birthdata is: 1887 Sept 8, 4:16 am (time zone: 5:11 east of GMT), 77e40, 8n48. He has 7th lord Saturn in lagna and hence Dwisaptati sama dasa works better than Vimsottari dasa. In Rahu's dwisaptati sama dasa, he did intense sadhana in a hut infested by scorpions and snakes and reached nirvikalpa samadhi (one of the few yogis in the last 100 years to do so). He has lagna in Asresha star and 8th lord (sadhana and mystical experiences!) Rahu is in lagna, also in Asresha star! No wonder his dasa gave those spiritual experiences. Best regards, Narasimha Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > Dear Narasimha ji & Satya ji, > > Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra schemes > and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but this > nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, being > used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored in terms > of other principles) astrologers. > Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr Raman. > > " > 2) Sri Gautama Buddha > The lord Lagna Moon - karaka for the mind - in the **constellation of > Jupiter** - the divine planet- occupying the Navamsa of Mars, gave > him an iron will, a strong determination and the urge to > undiscouraged action. > > 21) Tippu Sultan > ....the position of the 10th lord **in his own nakshatra** suggests > that he could not have been a tyrant as he is represented to be. > > 30) Bala Gangadhara Tilak > It may be asked whether Jupiter-Rahu association has not caused Guru- > Chandala Yoga. The answer would be that the yoga stands neutralised > by the fact that Rahu is in **the constellation of Mercury |**and is > removed from Jupiter by nearly 10 degrees.Rahu's situation in the > nakshatra of Mercury who is mokshastanadhipati and the entire > combination receieving the aspect of Saturn from Mokshastana gave him > a living faith in God. > > 66) George VI > Dasa of Venus momentus. Venus no doubt caused Malavya Yoga and his > strength par excellence especially that he is Lagna Lord : but > because **he is in the nakshatra of Rahu **and somewhat afflicted in > Navamsha, during Venus Dasa, the empire faced a crisis of first > magnitude. > " > > I skip such other lines. > > I think we should not mix one principle with other. What you say? > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam also > > emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari Dasa > > based ruler. > > Dear Sir, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in > > tradition. > > > > > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on > > > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > > > > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun > > as > > > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari > > and > > > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, > > by > > > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > > > > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like > > > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of > > > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > > > important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras > > > better. > > > > > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > > > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet > of > > > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as > > > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati > > sa > > > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta > > > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta > > is > > > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is > > > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra > > > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > > > > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as > > > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for > > most > > > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling > > > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as > > > per nakshatra sooktam. > > > > > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra > rulerships > > > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > > Spirituality: <> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > > > > > > >Hari Om. > > > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > > > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I > > > think that > > > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good > > > positions > > > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Respected Narasimha Ji Very well and original thought. The nature of Nakshatra and its Deity play major role in predicting the results of a planet in particular nakshatra. I have seen some astrologers advising to worship the afflicted planet as well as nakshatra deity in which nakshatra the planet is posited. Thanks & regards, Anoop. Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote: Namaste, Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in tradition. A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun as per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari and Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, by Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras better. For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet of Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati sa mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta is owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for most activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as per nakshatra sooktam. My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra rulerships as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. Just my 2 cents... Best regards, Narasimha ------------------------- Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> Spirituality: <> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org> ------------------------- > >Hari Om. > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > Best regards, > ashwini > > > > Hari Om. > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I think that > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good positions > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > negativities for us. > > > > > > Best regards, > > ashwini You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Dear Sri Saaji Bhaskaranji, I agree with you that we (and most of the astrologers) use the Nakshathra based lordship (as identified in Vimshotthari dasa scheme) to attribute planetary qualities to the nakshathras. Still Sri R Santhanam mentioned in the contrary to this, based on his own research. In his book " Essentials of Predictive Hindu Astrology " , page 309, he wrote a section by heading " NAKSHATRA LORDSHIP - MISCONCEIVED " . This section runs for several pages; but the pages 309, 310 and 311 discuss clearly that the Nakshathra Lordships that most astrologers are freely using in making predictions, are a clear misconception and not mentioned in any classic; the lordship of Aswini by Kethu, Bharani by Sukra etc., is only limited to the extent of identifying the lordship of maha dasa, antardasa, pratyantardasa etc. This is the summary of these 3 pages. Interested astrologers can read this book. Now whether we should use these lordships in our predictions or not, is the choice of individual astrologers. Best regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Narasimha ji & Satya ji, > > Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra schemes > and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but this > nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, being > used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored in terms > of other principles) astrologers. > Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr Raman. > > " > 2) Sri Gautama Buddha > The lord Lagna Moon – karaka for the mind – in the **constellation of > Jupiter** – the divine planet- occupying the Navamsa of Mars, gave > him an iron will, a strong determination and the urge to > undiscouraged action. > > 21) Tippu Sultan > ....the position of the 10th lord **in his own nakshatra** suggests > that he could not have been a tyrant as he is represented to be. > > 30) Bala Gangadhara Tilak > It may be asked whether Jupiter-Rahu association has not caused Guru- > Chandala Yoga. The answer would be that the yoga stands neutralised > by the fact that Rahu is in **the constellation of Mercury |**and is > removed from Jupiter by nearly 10 degrees.Rahu's situation in the > nakshatra of Mercury who is mokshastanadhipati and the entire > combination receieving the aspect of Saturn from Mokshastana gave him > a living faith in God. > > 66) George VI > Dasa of Venus momentus. Venus no doubt caused Malavya Yoga and his > strength par excellence especially that he is Lagna Lord : but > because **he is in the nakshatra of Rahu **and somewhat afflicted in > Navamsha, during Venus Dasa, the empire faced a crisis of first > magnitude. > " > > I skip such other lines. > > I think we should not mix one principle with other. What you say? > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam also > > emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari Dasa > > based ruler. > > Dear Sir, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in > > tradition. > > > > > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based on > > > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > > > > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by Sun > > as > > > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari > > and > > > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama dasa, > > by > > > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > > > > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes like > > > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of > > > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > > > important. They help us in understanding the nature of nakshatras > > > better. > > > > > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > > > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet > of > > > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam as > > > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye japati > > sa > > > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta > > > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, Hasta > > is > > > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason is > > > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra > > > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > > > > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury as > > > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for > > most > > > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its ruling > > > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan as > > > per nakshatra sooktam. > > > > > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra > rulerships > > > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------------- -- > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > > Spirituality: <> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > ------------------------------- -- > > > > > > > >Hari Om. > > > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > > > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I > > > think that > > > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good > > > positions > > > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of her > > > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Dear Satya ji, I don't have this text of R Santanam, but the point you refered that its not mentioned in any classics seem not correct. Prashna Marga, the divine text very extensively uses these nakshatra lordships. Its difficult to quote Prashna Marga here. I found this in Satya Jatakam also. " Satya Jatakam Ch 2 Shl 2 2. Pancha Siddhanta These are five basic principles in the study of a horoscope. They are: (i) Graha Seela (the behavior or nature of the different planets) (ii) Karakatva (Significators) **(iii) Nakshatra (stellar positions of the planets) ** (iv) Svavarga (positions of the planets in the Rashi, Navamsha, hora, drekkana and other varga charts). The principles are referred to asd the `Panchasiddhanta principles.' ** Satya Jatakam Ch 2 under Nakshatra Siddhanta gives these lordship of planets under Rule 1.** Satya Jatakam Ch 3 Shl 20 20. Number of Children: When Jupiter placed in the Rashi, Amsha **and nakshatra** in which the lord of the 5th house is placed, aspects the 5th house, conception will take place. " The logic I found is this nakshatra lordship results in a relation to the concerned planet and that way its possible to attribute some results like we say in conjunction and aspect. Since I cant read the book of Santanam, I don't think further discussion is possible on this topic. Best regards, Saaji Bhasakran , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Sri Saaji Bhaskaranji, > > I agree with you that we (and most of the astrologers) use the > Nakshathra based lordship (as identified in Vimshotthari dasa scheme) > to attribute planetary qualities to the nakshathras. > > Still Sri R Santhanam mentioned in the contrary to this, based on his > own research. > > In his book " Essentials of Predictive Hindu Astrology " , page 309, he > wrote a section by heading " NAKSHATRA LORDSHIP - MISCONCEIVED " . This > section runs for several pages; but the pages 309, 310 and 311 > discuss clearly that the Nakshathra Lordships that most astrologers > are freely using in making predictions, are a clear misconception and > not mentioned in any classic; the lordship of Aswini by Kethu, > Bharani by Sukra etc., is only limited to the extent of identifying > the lordship of maha dasa, antardasa, pratyantardasa etc. This is the > summary of these 3 pages. > > Interested astrologers can read this book. > > Now whether we should use these lordships in our predictions or not, > is the choice of individual astrologers. > > Best regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Narasimha ji & Satya ji, > > > > Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra schemes > > and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but this > > nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, being > > used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored in > terms > > of other principles) astrologers. > > Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr Raman. > > > > " > > 2) Sri Gautama Buddha > > The lord Lagna Moon – karaka for the mind – in the **constellation > of > > Jupiter** – the divine planet- occupying the Navamsa of Mars, gave > > him an iron will, a strong determination and the urge to > > undiscouraged action. > > > > 21) Tippu Sultan > > ....the position of the 10th lord **in his own nakshatra** suggests > > that he could not have been a tyrant as he is represented to be. > > > > 30) Bala Gangadhara Tilak > > It may be asked whether Jupiter-Rahu association has not caused > Guru- > > Chandala Yoga. The answer would be that the yoga stands neutralised > > by the fact that Rahu is in **the constellation of Mercury |**and > is > > removed from Jupiter by nearly 10 degrees.Rahu's situation in the > > nakshatra of Mercury who is mokshastanadhipati and the entire > > combination receieving the aspect of Saturn from Mokshastana gave > him > > a living faith in God. > > > > 66) George VI > > Dasa of Venus momentus. Venus no doubt caused Malavya Yoga and his > > strength par excellence especially that he is Lagna Lord : but > > because **he is in the nakshatra of Rahu **and somewhat afflicted > in > > Navamsha, during Venus Dasa, the empire faced a crisis of first > > magnitude. > > " > > > > I skip such other lines. > > > > I think we should not mix one principle with other. What you say? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > > > This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam also > > > emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari Dasa > > > based ruler. > > > Dear Sir, > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in > > > tradition. > > > > > > > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based > on > > > > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > > > > > > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by > Sun > > > as > > > > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, Shodasottari > > > and > > > > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama > dasa, > > > by > > > > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > > > > > > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes > like > > > > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities of > > > > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > > > > important. They help us in understanding the nature of > nakshatras > > > > better. > > > > > > > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > > > > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling planet > > of > > > > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of Sravanam > as > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye > japati > > > sa > > > > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in Hasta > > > > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, > Hasta > > > is > > > > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason > is > > > > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per nakshatra > > > > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > > > > > > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is Mercury > as > > > > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious for > > > most > > > > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its > ruling > > > > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is Pooshan > as > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. > > > > > > > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra > > rulerships > > > > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Narasimha > > > > ----------------------------- -- > -- > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > > > Spirituality: <> > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > ----------------------------- -- > -- > > > > > > > > > >Hari Om. > > > > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in Punarvasu > > > > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > > > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. I > > > > think that > > > > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in good > > > > positions > > > > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of > her > > > > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Namaste, > Satya Jatakam Ch 3 Shl 20 > 20. Number of Children: When Jupiter placed in the Rashi, Amsha > **and nakshatra** in which the lord of the 5th house is placed, > aspects the 5th house, conception will take place. > " > > The logic I found is this nakshatra lordship results in a relation to > the concerned planet and that way its possible to attribute some > results like we say in conjunction and aspect. It is only talking about Jupiter transiting the nakshatra in which the 5th lord is " placed " . There is no mention of nakshatra rulership here! Even Parasara did not mention using Vimsottari dasa rulerships of nakshatras for anything other than finding Vimsottari dasa. Prasna Marga is a fantastic work, but it is a relatively recent work and not immune from corruptions of its times. The convention of taking nakshatra rulers as per one specific nakshatra dasa (Vimsottari dasa) and giving too much importance to them seems like a few centuries old idea and it is not surprising if Prasna Marga uses it. This idea is neither based on convincing logic nor based on the words of rishis. Thus, I reject the idea. Best regards, Narasimha Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Satya ji, > > I don't have this text of R Santanam, but the point you refered that > its not mentioned in any classics seem not correct. Prashna Marga, > the divine text very extensively uses these nakshatra lordships. Its > difficult to quote Prashna Marga here. > > I found this in Satya Jatakam also. > > " > Satya Jatakam Ch 2 Shl 2 > 2. Pancha Siddhanta These are five basic principles in the study of a > horoscope. They are: (i) Graha Seela (the behavior or nature of the > different planets) (ii) Karakatva (Significators) **(iii) Nakshatra > (stellar positions of the planets) ** (iv) Svavarga (positions of the > planets in the Rashi, Navamsha, hora, drekkana and other varga > charts). The principles are referred to asd the `Panchasiddhanta > principles.' > > ** Satya Jatakam Ch 2 under Nakshatra Siddhanta gives these lordship > of planets under Rule 1.** > > Satya Jatakam Ch 3 Shl 20 > 20. Number of Children: When Jupiter placed in the Rashi, Amsha > **and nakshatra** in which the lord of the 5th house is placed, > aspects the 5th house, conception will take place. > " > > The logic I found is this nakshatra lordship results in a relation to > the concerned planet and that way its possible to attribute some > results like we say in conjunction and aspect. > > Since I cant read the book of Santanam, I don't think further > discussion is possible on this topic. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhasakran > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Saaji Bhaskaranji, > > > > I agree with you that we (and most of the astrologers) use the > > Nakshathra based lordship (as identified in Vimshotthari dasa > scheme) > > to attribute planetary qualities to the nakshathras. > > > > Still Sri R Santhanam mentioned in the contrary to this, based on > his > > own research. > > > > In his book " Essentials of Predictive Hindu Astrology " , page 309, > he > > wrote a section by heading " NAKSHATRA LORDSHIP - MISCONCEIVED " . > This > > section runs for several pages; but the pages 309, 310 and 311 > > discuss clearly that the Nakshathra Lordships that most astrologers > > are freely using in making predictions, are a clear misconception > and > > not mentioned in any classic; the lordship of Aswini by Kethu, > > Bharani by Sukra etc., is only limited to the extent of identifying > > the lordship of maha dasa, antardasa, pratyantardasa etc. This is > the > > summary of these 3 pages. > > > > Interested astrologers can read this book. > > > > Now whether we should use these lordships in our predictions or > not, > > is the choice of individual astrologers. > > > > Best regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Narasimha ji & Satya ji, > > > > > > Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra > schemes > > > and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but this > > > nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, > being > > > used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored in > > terms > > > of other principles) astrologers. > > > Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr Raman. > > > > > > " > > > 2) Sri Gautama Buddha > > > The lord Lagna Moon - karaka for the mind - in the > **constellation > > of > > > Jupiter** - the divine planet- occupying the Navamsa of Mars, > gave > > > him an iron will, a strong determination and the urge to > > > undiscouraged action. > > > > > > 21) Tippu Sultan > > > ....the position of the 10th lord **in his own nakshatra** > suggests > > > that he could not have been a tyrant as he is represented to be. > > > > > > 30) Bala Gangadhara Tilak > > > It may be asked whether Jupiter-Rahu association has not caused > > Guru- > > > Chandala Yoga. The answer would be that the yoga stands > neutralised > > > by the fact that Rahu is in **the constellation of Mercury |**and > > is > > > removed from Jupiter by nearly 10 degrees.Rahu's situation in the > > > nakshatra of Mercury who is mokshastanadhipati and the entire > > > combination receieving the aspect of Saturn from Mokshastana gave > > him > > > a living faith in God. > > > > > > 66) George VI > > > Dasa of Venus momentus. Venus no doubt caused Malavya Yoga and > his > > > strength par excellence especially that he is Lagna Lord : but > > > because **he is in the nakshatra of Rahu **and somewhat afflicted > > in > > > Navamsha, during Venus Dasa, the empire faced a crisis of first > > > magnitude. > > > " > > > > > > I skip such other lines. > > > > > > I think we should not mix one principle with other. What you say? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > > > > > This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam also > > > > emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari > Dasa > > > > based ruler. > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in > > > > tradition. > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based > > on > > > > > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > > > > > > > > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by > > Sun > > > > as > > > > > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, > Shodasottari > > > > and > > > > > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama > > dasa, > > > > by > > > > > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > > > > > > > > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes > > like > > > > > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities > of > > > > > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > > > > > important. They help us in understanding the nature of > > nakshatras > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > > > > > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling > planet > > > of > > > > > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of > Sravanam > > as > > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye > > japati > > > > sa > > > > > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in > Hasta > > > > > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, > > Hasta > > > > is > > > > > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason > > is > > > > > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per > nakshatra > > > > > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > > > > > > > > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is > Mercury > > as > > > > > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious > for > > > > most > > > > > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its > > ruling > > > > > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is > Pooshan > > as > > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. > > > > > > > > > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra > > > rulerships > > > > > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > ----------------------------- > -- > > -- > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > > > > Spirituality: <> > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > ----------------------------- > -- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > >Hari Om. > > > > > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in > Punarvasu > > > > > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > > > > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. > I > > > > > think that > > > > > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in > good > > > > > positions > > > > > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of > > her > > > > > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Dear Narasimha ji, << There is no mention of nakshatra rulership here! >> I read the nakshtra rulerships of Vimshottari dasha giving in Chapter 2 of Satya Jatakam. and this is subsequent verse. But sincerely, I dont know whether the author added this since I have only English translation with me not Sanskrit verses. **But evenif its not given, I think its justified if we are using vimshottari Dasa. Then Vimshottari dasa lorships are applicable** << The convention of taking nakshatra rulers as per one specific nakshatra dasa (Vimsottari dasa) and giving too much importance to them seems like a few centuries old idea and it is not surprising if Prasna Marga uses it.>> Agreed. << This idea is neither based on convincing logic nor based on the words of rishis. Thus, I reject the idea. >> You are an adept in BPHS. I just wanted to show what Santanam wrote is wrong. But this applies only if he consider these texts as classics. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > > Satya Jatakam Ch 3 Shl 20 > > 20. Number of Children: When Jupiter placed in the Rashi, Amsha > > **and nakshatra** in which the lord of the 5th house is placed, > > aspects the 5th house, conception will take place. > > " > > > > The logic I found is this nakshatra lordship results in a relation to > > the concerned planet and that way its possible to attribute some > > results like we say in conjunction and aspect. > > It is only talking about Jupiter transiting the nakshatra in which the 5th lord is " placed " . There is no mention of nakshatra rulership here! > > Even Parasara did not mention using Vimsottari dasa rulerships of nakshatras for anything other than finding Vimsottari dasa. > > Prasna Marga is a fantastic work, but it is a relatively recent work and not immune from corruptions of its times. The convention of taking nakshatra rulers as per one specific nakshatra dasa (Vimsottari dasa) and giving too much importance to them seems like a few centuries old idea and it is not surprising if Prasna Marga uses it. > > This idea is neither based on convincing logic nor based on the words of rishis. Thus, I reject the idea. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satya ji, > > > > I don't have this text of R Santanam, but the point you refered that > > its not mentioned in any classics seem not correct. Prashna Marga, > > the divine text very extensively uses these nakshatra lordships. Its > > difficult to quote Prashna Marga here. > > > > I found this in Satya Jatakam also. > > > > " > > Satya Jatakam Ch 2 Shl 2 > > 2. Pancha Siddhanta These are five basic principles in the study of a > > horoscope. They are: (i) Graha Seela (the behavior or nature of the > > different planets) (ii) Karakatva (Significators) **(iii) Nakshatra > > (stellar positions of the planets) ** (iv) Svavarga (positions of the > > planets in the Rashi, Navamsha, hora, drekkana and other varga > > charts). The principles are referred to asd the `Panchasiddhanta > > principles.' > > > > ** Satya Jatakam Ch 2 under Nakshatra Siddhanta gives these lordship > > of planets under Rule 1.** > > > > Satya Jatakam Ch 3 Shl 20 > > 20. Number of Children: When Jupiter placed in the Rashi, Amsha > > **and nakshatra** in which the lord of the 5th house is placed, > > aspects the 5th house, conception will take place. > > " > > > > The logic I found is this nakshatra lordship results in a relation to > > the concerned planet and that way its possible to attribute some > > results like we say in conjunction and aspect. > > > > Since I cant read the book of Santanam, I don't think further > > discussion is possible on this topic. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhasakran > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sri Saaji Bhaskaranji, > > > > > > I agree with you that we (and most of the astrologers) use the > > > Nakshathra based lordship (as identified in Vimshotthari dasa > > scheme) > > > to attribute planetary qualities to the nakshathras. > > > > > > Still Sri R Santhanam mentioned in the contrary to this, based on > > his > > > own research. > > > > > > In his book " Essentials of Predictive Hindu Astrology " , page 309, > > he > > > wrote a section by heading " NAKSHATRA LORDSHIP - MISCONCEIVED " . > > This > > > section runs for several pages; but the pages 309, 310 and 311 > > > discuss clearly that the Nakshathra Lordships that most astrologers > > > are freely using in making predictions, are a clear misconception > > and > > > not mentioned in any classic; the lordship of Aswini by Kethu, > > > Bharani by Sukra etc., is only limited to the extent of identifying > > > the lordship of maha dasa, antardasa, pratyantardasa etc. This is > > the > > > summary of these 3 pages. > > > > > > Interested astrologers can read this book. > > > > > > Now whether we should use these lordships in our predictions or > > not, > > > is the choice of individual astrologers. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha ji & Satya ji, > > > > > > > > Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra > > schemes > > > > and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but this > > > > nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, > > being > > > > used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored in > > > terms > > > > of other principles) astrologers. > > > > Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr Raman. > > > > > > > > " > > > > 2) Sri Gautama Buddha > > > > The lord Lagna Moon - karaka for the mind - in the > > **constellation > > > of > > > > Jupiter** - the divine planet- occupying the Navamsa of Mars, > > gave > > > > him an iron will, a strong determination and the urge to > > > > undiscouraged action. > > > > > > > > 21) Tippu Sultan > > > > ....the position of the 10th lord **in his own nakshatra** > > suggests > > > > that he could not have been a tyrant as he is represented to be. > > > > > > > > 30) Bala Gangadhara Tilak > > > > It may be asked whether Jupiter-Rahu association has not caused > > > Guru- > > > > Chandala Yoga. The answer would be that the yoga stands > > neutralised > > > > by the fact that Rahu is in **the constellation of Mercury |**and > > > is > > > > removed from Jupiter by nearly 10 degrees.Rahu's situation in the > > > > nakshatra of Mercury who is mokshastanadhipati and the entire > > > > combination receieving the aspect of Saturn from Mokshastana gave > > > him > > > > a living faith in God. > > > > > > > > 66) George VI > > > > Dasa of Venus momentus. Venus no doubt caused Malavya Yoga and > > his > > > > strength par excellence especially that he is Lagna Lord : but > > > > because **he is in the nakshatra of Rahu **and somewhat afflicted > > > in > > > > Navamsha, during Venus Dasa, the empire faced a crisis of first > > > > magnitude. > > > > " > > > > > > > > I skip such other lines. > > > > > > > > I think we should not mix one principle with other. What you say? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > > > > > > > This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam also > > > > > emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari > > Dasa > > > > > based ruler. > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > > > , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra in > > > > > tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras based > > > on > > > > > > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > > > > > > > > > > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa scheme, by > > > Sun > > > > > as > > > > > > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, > > Shodasottari > > > > > and > > > > > > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati sama > > > dasa, > > > > > by > > > > > > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa schemes > > > like > > > > > > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling deities > > of > > > > > > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far more > > > > > > important. They help us in understanding the nature of > > > nakshatras > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious for > > > > > > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling > > planet > > > > of > > > > > > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of > > Sravanam > > > as > > > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye > > > japati > > > > > sa > > > > > > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in > > Hasta > > > > > > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling planets, > > > Hasta > > > > > is > > > > > > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual reason > > > is > > > > > > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per > > nakshatra > > > > > > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is > > Mercury > > > as > > > > > > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very inauspicious > > for > > > > > most > > > > > > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because its > > > ruling > > > > > > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is > > Pooshan > > > as > > > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. > > > > > > > > > > > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra > > > > rulerships > > > > > > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > ------------------------- ---- > > -- > > > -- > > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > > > > > Spirituality: <> > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > > ------------------------- ---- > > -- > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hari Om. > > > > > > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in > > Punarvasu > > > > > > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of hat > > > > > > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that statements. > > I > > > > > > think that > > > > > > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in > > good > > > > > > positions > > > > > > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes much of > > > her > > > > > > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Dear Sri Saaji Bhaskaranji, I also feel that, as long as we restrict the nakshathra rulership of planets (derived from Vimshotthari dasa) to predicting events within the scope of Vimshotthari dasa itself, it should be fine. However, when we adopt this approach, we tend to extend the principle to say, such and such nakshathra is malefic/benefic due to the rulership by such and such planet. It is human nature to easily extend rules beyond their validity - hence one has to be cautious. Best regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Narasimha ji, > > << > There is no mention of nakshatra rulership here! > >> > I read the nakshtra rulerships of Vimshottari dasha giving in Chapter > 2 of Satya Jatakam. and this is subsequent verse. But sincerely, I > dont know whether the author added this since I have only English > translation with me not Sanskrit verses. **But evenif its not given, > I think its justified if we are using vimshottari Dasa. Then > Vimshottari dasa lorships are applicable** > > << The convention of taking nakshatra rulers as per one specific > nakshatra dasa (Vimsottari dasa) and giving too much importance to > them seems like a few centuries old idea and it is not surprising if > Prasna Marga uses it.>> > Agreed. > > > << This idea is neither based on convincing logic nor based on the > words of rishis. Thus, I reject the idea. > >> > You are an adept in BPHS. I just wanted to show what Santanam wrote > is wrong. But this applies only if he consider these texts as > classics. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > > Satya Jatakam Ch 3 Shl 20 > > > 20. Number of Children: When Jupiter placed in the Rashi, Amsha > > > **and nakshatra** in which the lord of the 5th house is placed, > > > aspects the 5th house, conception will take place. > > > " > > > > > > The logic I found is this nakshatra lordship results in a > relation to > > > the concerned planet and that way its possible to attribute some > > > results like we say in conjunction and aspect. > > > > It is only talking about Jupiter transiting the nakshatra in which > the 5th lord is " placed " . There is no mention of nakshatra rulership > here! > > > > Even Parasara did not mention using Vimsottari dasa rulerships of > nakshatras for anything other than finding Vimsottari dasa. > > > > Prasna Marga is a fantastic work, but it is a relatively recent > work and not immune from corruptions of its times. The convention of > taking nakshatra rulers as per one specific nakshatra dasa > (Vimsottari dasa) and giving too much importance to them seems like a > few centuries old idea and it is not surprising if Prasna Marga uses > it. > > > > This idea is neither based on convincing logic nor based on the > words of rishis. Thus, I reject the idea. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > -------------------------------- - > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > -------------------------------- - > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satya ji, > > > > > > I don't have this text of R Santanam, but the point you refered > that > > > its not mentioned in any classics seem not correct. Prashna > Marga, > > > the divine text very extensively uses these nakshatra lordships. > Its > > > difficult to quote Prashna Marga here. > > > > > > I found this in Satya Jatakam also. > > > > > > " > > > Satya Jatakam Ch 2 Shl 2 > > > 2. Pancha Siddhanta These are five basic principles in the study > of a > > > horoscope. They are: (i) Graha Seela (the behavior or nature of > the > > > different planets) (ii) Karakatva (Significators) **(iii) > Nakshatra > > > (stellar positions of the planets) ** (iv) Svavarga (positions of > the > > > planets in the Rashi, Navamsha, hora, drekkana and other varga > > > charts). The principles are referred to asd the `Panchasiddhanta > > > principles.' > > > > > > ** Satya Jatakam Ch 2 under Nakshatra Siddhanta gives these > lordship > > > of planets under Rule 1.** > > > > > > Satya Jatakam Ch 3 Shl 20 > > > 20. Number of Children: When Jupiter placed in the Rashi, Amsha > > > **and nakshatra** in which the lord of the 5th house is placed, > > > aspects the 5th house, conception will take place. > > > " > > > > > > The logic I found is this nakshatra lordship results in a > relation to > > > the concerned planet and that way its possible to attribute some > > > results like we say in conjunction and aspect. > > > > > > Since I cant read the book of Santanam, I don't think further > > > discussion is possible on this topic. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhasakran > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Saaji Bhaskaranji, > > > > > > > > I agree with you that we (and most of the astrologers) use the > > > > Nakshathra based lordship (as identified in Vimshotthari dasa > > > scheme) > > > > to attribute planetary qualities to the nakshathras. > > > > > > > > Still Sri R Santhanam mentioned in the contrary to this, based > on > > > his > > > > own research. > > > > > > > > In his book " Essentials of Predictive Hindu Astrology " , page > 309, > > > he > > > > wrote a section by heading " NAKSHATRA LORDSHIP - MISCONCEIVED " . > > > This > > > > section runs for several pages; but the pages 309, 310 and 311 > > > > discuss clearly that the Nakshathra Lordships that most > astrologers > > > > are freely using in making predictions, are a clear > misconception > > > and > > > > not mentioned in any classic; the lordship of Aswini by Kethu, > > > > Bharani by Sukra etc., is only limited to the extent of > identifying > > > > the lordship of maha dasa, antardasa, pratyantardasa etc. This > is > > > the > > > > summary of these 3 pages. > > > > > > > > Interested astrologers can read this book. > > > > > > > > Now whether we should use these lordships in our predictions or > > > not, > > > > is the choice of individual astrologers. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " > <saajik@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha ji & Satya ji, > > > > > > > > > > Muhurta may not be based on the vimshottari based nakshatra > > > schemes > > > > > and different dasha systems have different dasha lords but > this > > > > > nakshatra lordships of planets in prediction is a main tool, > > > being > > > > > used by old (I use this word since these are slowly ignored > in > > > > terms > > > > > of other principles) astrologers. > > > > > Request you and others to refer " Notable Horoscopes " by Dr > Raman. > > > > > > > > > > " > > > > > 2) Sri Gautama Buddha > > > > > The lord Lagna Moon - karaka for the mind - in the > > > **constellation > > > > of > > > > > Jupiter** - the divine planet- occupying the Navamsa of Mars, > > > gave > > > > > him an iron will, a strong determination and the urge to > > > > > undiscouraged action. > > > > > > > > > > 21) Tippu Sultan > > > > > ....the position of the 10th lord **in his own nakshatra** > > > suggests > > > > > that he could not have been a tyrant as he is represented to > be. > > > > > > > > > > 30) Bala Gangadhara Tilak > > > > > It may be asked whether Jupiter-Rahu association has not > caused > > > > Guru- > > > > > Chandala Yoga. The answer would be that the yoga stands > > > neutralised > > > > > by the fact that Rahu is in **the constellation of Mercury > |**and > > > > is > > > > > removed from Jupiter by nearly 10 degrees.Rahu's situation in > the > > > > > nakshatra of Mercury who is mokshastanadhipati and the entire > > > > > combination receieving the aspect of Saturn from Mokshastana > gave > > > > him > > > > > a living faith in God. > > > > > > > > > > 66) George VI > > > > > Dasa of Venus momentus. Venus no doubt caused Malavya Yoga > and > > > his > > > > > strength par excellence especially that he is Lagna Lord : > but > > > > > because **he is in the nakshatra of Rahu **and somewhat > afflicted > > > > in > > > > > Navamsha, during Venus Dasa, the empire faced a crisis of > first > > > > > magnitude. > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > I skip such other lines. > > > > > > > > > > I think we should not mix one principle with other. What you > say? > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > > > > > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Narasimha, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is very valid point mentioned here. Even R Santhanam > also > > > > > > emphasized to de-link the nakshatra from their Vimshotthari > > > Dasa > > > > > > based ruler. > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Narasimha Rao " <pvr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, Aslesha is not considered a benefic nakshatra > in > > > > > > tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people form their impressions about nakshatras > based > > > > on > > > > > > > their lords as per the Vimsottari dasa scheme. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asresha is ruled by Mercury as per Vimsottari dasa > scheme, by > > > > Sun > > > > > > as > > > > > > > per Ashtottari dasa scheme, by Mars as per Yogini, > > > Shodasottari > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Shashtihayani dasa schemes, by Moon as per Dwisaptati > sama > > > > dasa, > > > > > > by > > > > > > > Ketu as per Dwadasottari dasa and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ruling planets of nakshatras based on specific dasa > schemes > > > > like > > > > > > > Vimsottari are not of much importance at all. Ruling > deities > > > of > > > > > > > nakshatras taught by rishis in nakshatra sooktam are far > more > > > > > > > important. They help us in understanding the nature of > > > > nakshatras > > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, Sravana nakshatra is considered auspicious > for > > > > > > > worshipping Vishnu. It is not because Moon is the ruling > > > planet > > > > > of > > > > > > > Sravanam. It is because Vishnu is the ruling deity of > > > Sravanam > > > > as > > > > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. Suryopanishat says " yo hastaaditye > > > > japati > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > mahaamrityum tarati " (whoever chants this when Sun is in > > > Hasta > > > > > > > nakshatra crosses death). As per Vimsottari ruling > planets, > > > > Hasta > > > > > > is > > > > > > > owned by Moon. However, that is immaterial. The actual > reason > > > > is > > > > > > > that Hasta is ruled by Savita (a form of Sun) as per > > > nakshatra > > > > > > > sooktam. That is why it is important for Sun's worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the ruling planet of both Asresha and Revati is > > > Mercury > > > > as > > > > > > > per Vimsottari, the former is considered very > inauspicious > > > for > > > > > > most > > > > > > > activities and the latter is auspicious. It is because > its > > > > ruling > > > > > > > deity of the former is Sarpa (snake) and the latter is > > > Pooshan > > > > as > > > > > > > per nakshatra sooktam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advise to Jyotishis is to de-emphasize the nakshatra > > > > > rulerships > > > > > > > as per Vimsottari and consider the ruling deities more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > ---------------------- --- > ---- > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > > > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: > > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > > > > > > > Spirituality: <vedic- wisdom> > > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > > > ---------------------- --- > ---- > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hari Om. > > > > > > > > For example Shani in Ashlesa nakshatra, or Shani in > > > Punarvasu > > > > > > > > nakshatra in twelve bhava? We just talking of nature of > hat > > > > > > > > combinations, nothing else, just this two parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members what is your opinions about that > statements. > > > I > > > > > > > think that > > > > > > > > > malefic graha in benefic nakshatra if her lords is in > > > good > > > > > > > positions > > > > > > > > > and if every thing ok with her lords, neutralizes > much of > > > > her > > > > > > > > > negativities for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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