Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 dear grp . I assume this grp is promoting learning of astro principles and helping the needy memebrs in case our time and will allows . Many times i thought of not to respond this kind of claims ,but when i think abt many new entrants who wanted to learn and when i think abt the rishis who want us to keep the tradition they pass on to us ,i cant sit idle and watch this mutilation of theorys Now let us see if gr8 saints has moon sani yoga or aspects Yes many has ,many dont hav also , as sani rules various things frm sudratwa to vairagya ,it can be a determining factor .but not sole factor .As a chart as whole should be checked for any spiritual uplift ment . the trikonas ( dharma ,artha LIke ) should be checked and dasa should be analysed as dasa shows fruitifciation of results promised in charts . also the sexuality shoud be under check and the yogas for material acquireness and greed shoud be checked , The 2nd house and lord should be good ,also 11th house ( as its peak of kama trikona 3/7/11) and shows how a nativ can approach others to make money .Is money comes naturaly or native earns money against wishes of others or crooked methods .(no doubt malefics in 3nd and 11th is good in material point view as it will giv us hard mind to earn money and i dont care what ever may happen to others attitude ) 2nd house rules money and speech ,so a mahatma wat ever utter becomes true ,has to happen ,so good 2nd house hows a man born with a mission ..Also u can see a good mahatma attracts tons of money which will b used for good purpose ,all humanity may stand and sit according to his finger tips ,That is depth and power of spirituality . Now if u see 11th house the karma bhava of 2nd house ,if there is malefics influencing thos persons approach with others tru that way only ,arm twisting exercises to keep his money safe and earn such way ,PPL may be treatened to giv them money . like this each bhava has to be srutinised and then we must check tru VImshottary frm moon as moon shows mind and how this new born atma will go tru various actions and reaction in life ,So the quality of dasas frm birth to some age we can see for any growth in spiritiaity . if u go to pilgrm centres u can find lot of saffron clad persons ,do we agree all them has spirituality in higher plain ,or do we agree all r got their agya chakra got activated . No most of them where using saffron as cover for filling their stomach or pockets and depending on their yogas they may be successful at various levels by utilising the sentiments of poor bhaktas and in return what they contributes to society?? ,nothing . Now come to common man and moon + sat ============= it may show punaphoo dosha ,marriage and remarriage ,partner ditching and deserting .,i hav 100s of charts of delayed or denied marriage where the main cause of thier marriage delay or denial also sani .so do u agree they r spiritual too ,simply because they dont marry and age is 50 or so ?? when debilated planets aspects another planets try to steal enery frm that planets ,karakatwa will reflected on moon and the nativ mind and hence their actions will be suitable to that planets( as all actions first originates in mind ) manasa ,vaacha ,karmana . so sani can show even filty ness ,unclean ,lower mind and tamasik qualities i think this is enough to see sani --moon yogas and aspects next i will write abt nadies and rahu in 2nd frm jup and swami vivekanada chart but i will hold real secrets ,So u can compare the writings of some caunaught place road side nadi holders analaysis if we can see many of the yogas in our chart that may be in mahatamas charts ,even avataras charts and even criminals chart ,but that is not a final word >if so astrology will b kids play . but desha ,kaala ,patra principles along with these things should be kept in mind the esiest way is gauge the actions of persons . if they r blessed they will like perfume ,who ever goes near ,they feel the aroma ---else ---------------------ha ha. sunil nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 // the esiest way is gauge the actions of persons . if they r blessed they will like perfume ,who ever goes near ,they feel the aroma --- else ---------------------ha ha. // Very well said. rgrds/Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > dear grp . > > > > I assume this grp is promoting learning of astro principles and > helping the needy memebrs in case our time and will allows . > > > > Many times i thought of not to respond this kind of claims ,but when i > think abt many new entrants who wanted to learn and when i think abt the > rishis who want us to keep the tradition they pass on to us ,i cant sit > idle and watch this mutilation of theorys > > > > Now let us see if gr8 saints has moon sani yoga or aspects > > > > Yes many has ,many dont hav also , as sani rules various things frm > sudratwa to vairagya ,it can be a determining factor .but not sole > factor .As a chart as whole should be checked for any spiritual uplift > ment . > > > > the trikonas ( dharma ,artha LIke ) should be checked and dasa should be > analysed as dasa shows fruitifciation of results promised in charts . > > > > also the sexuality shoud be under check and the yogas for material > acquireness and greed shoud be checked , > > > > The 2nd house and lord should be good ,also 11th house ( as its peak of > kama trikona 3/7/11) and shows how a nativ can approach others to make > money .Is money comes naturaly or native earns money against wishes of > others or crooked methods .(no doubt malefics in 3nd and 11th is good in > material point view as it will giv us hard mind to earn money and i dont > care what ever may happen to others attitude ) > > > > 2nd house rules money and speech ,so a mahatma wat ever utter becomes > true ,has to happen ,so good 2nd house hows a man born with a mission > .Also u can see a good mahatma attracts tons of money which will b used > for good purpose ,all humanity may stand and sit according to his finger > tips ,That is depth and power of spirituality . > > > > Now if u see 11th house the karma bhava of 2nd house ,if there is > malefics influencing thos persons approach with others tru that way only > ,arm twisting exercises to keep his money safe and earn such way ,PPL > may be treatened to giv them money . > > > > like this each bhava has to be srutinised and then we must check tru > VImshottary frm moon as moon shows mind and how this new born atma will > go tru various actions and reaction in life ,So the quality of dasas frm > birth to some age we can see for any growth in spiritiaity . > > > > if u go to pilgrm centres u can find lot of saffron clad persons ,do we > agree all them has spirituality in higher plain ,or do we agree all r > got their agya chakra got activated . > > > > No most of them where using saffron as cover for filling their stomach > or pockets and depending on their yogas they may be successful at > various levels by utilising the sentiments of poor bhaktas and in return > what they contributes to society?? ,nothing . > > Now come to common man and moon + sat > > ============= > > it may show punaphoo dosha ,marriage and remarriage ,partner ditching > and deserting .,i hav 100s of charts of delayed or denied marriage where > the main cause of thier marriage delay or denial also sani .so do u > agree they r spiritual too ,simply because they dont marry and age is 50 > or so ?? > > > > when debilated planets aspects another planets try to steal enery frm > that planets ,karakatwa will reflected on moon and the nativ mind and > hence their actions will be suitable to that planets( as all actions > first originates in mind ) manasa ,vaacha ,karmana . > > > > so sani can show even filty ness ,unclean ,lower mind and tamasik > qualities > > > > i think this is enough to see sani --moon yogas and aspects > > next i will write abt nadies and rahu in 2nd frm jup and swami > vivekanada chart > > but i will hold real secrets ,So u can compare the writings of some > caunaught place road side nadi holders analaysis > > > > if we can see many of the yogas in our chart that may be in mahatamas > charts ,even avataras charts and even criminals chart ,but that is not > a final word >if so astrology will b kids play . > > > > but desha ,kaala ,patra principles along with these things should be > kept in mind > > the esiest way is gauge the actions of persons . > > if they r blessed they will like perfume ,who ever goes near ,they > feel the aroma ---else ---------------------ha ha. > > > > > > sunil nair > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, I have Saturn-moon yoga in 2nd house. Regards, Tarun , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > dear grp . > > > > I assume this grp is promoting learning of astro principles and > helping the needy memebrs in case our time and will allows . > > > > Many times i thought of not to respond this kind of claims ,but when i > think abt many new entrants who wanted to learn and when i think abt the > rishis who want us to keep the tradition they pass on to us ,i cant sit > idle and watch this mutilation of theorys > > > > Now let us see if gr8 saints has moon sani yoga or aspects > > > > Yes many has ,many dont hav also , as sani rules various things frm > sudratwa to vairagya ,it can be a determining factor .but not sole > factor .As a chart as whole should be checked for any spiritual uplift > ment . > > > > the trikonas ( dharma ,artha LIke ) should be checked and dasa should be > analysed as dasa shows fruitifciation of results promised in charts . > > > > also the sexuality shoud be under check and the yogas for material > acquireness and greed shoud be checked , > > > > The 2nd house and lord should be good ,also 11th house ( as its peak of > kama trikona 3/7/11) and shows how a nativ can approach others to make > money .Is money comes naturaly or native earns money against wishes of > others or crooked methods .(no doubt malefics in 3nd and 11th is good in > material point view as it will giv us hard mind to earn money and i dont > care what ever may happen to others attitude ) > > > > 2nd house rules money and speech ,so a mahatma wat ever utter becomes > true ,has to happen ,so good 2nd house hows a man born with a mission > .Also u can see a good mahatma attracts tons of money which will b used > for good purpose ,all humanity may stand and sit according to his finger > tips ,That is depth and power of spirituality . > > > > Now if u see 11th house the karma bhava of 2nd house ,if there is > malefics influencing thos persons approach with others tru that way only > ,arm twisting exercises to keep his money safe and earn such way ,PPL > may be treatened to giv them money . > > > > like this each bhava has to be srutinised and then we must check tru > VImshottary frm moon as moon shows mind and how this new born atma will > go tru various actions and reaction in life ,So the quality of dasas frm > birth to some age we can see for any growth in spiritiaity . > > > > if u go to pilgrm centres u can find lot of saffron clad persons ,do we > agree all them has spirituality in higher plain ,or do we agree all r > got their agya chakra got activated . > > > > No most of them where using saffron as cover for filling their stomach > or pockets and depending on their yogas they may be successful at > various levels by utilising the sentiments of poor bhaktas and in return > what they contributes to society?? ,nothing . > > Now come to common man and moon + sat > > ============= > > it may show punaphoo dosha ,marriage and remarriage ,partner ditching > and deserting .,i hav 100s of charts of delayed or denied marriage where > the main cause of thier marriage delay or denial also sani .so do u > agree they r spiritual too ,simply because they dont marry and age is 50 > or so ?? > > > > when debilated planets aspects another planets try to steal enery frm > that planets ,karakatwa will reflected on moon and the nativ mind and > hence their actions will be suitable to that planets( as all actions > first originates in mind ) manasa ,vaacha ,karmana . > > > > so sani can show even filty ness ,unclean ,lower mind and tamasik > qualities > > > > i think this is enough to see sani --moon yogas and aspects > > next i will write abt nadies and rahu in 2nd frm jup and swami > vivekanada chart > > but i will hold real secrets ,So u can compare the writings of some > caunaught place road side nadi holders analaysis > > > > if we can see many of the yogas in our chart that may be in mahatamas > charts ,even avataras charts and even criminals chart ,but that is not > a final word >if so astrology will b kids play . > > > > but desha ,kaala ,patra principles along with these things should be > kept in mind > > the esiest way is gauge the actions of persons . > > if they r blessed they will like perfume ,who ever goes near ,they > feel the aroma ---else ---------------------ha ha. > > > > > > sunil nair > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Dear tarun ji , we discussed also , And u know the strenghth of ur sat .Also dont want to discuss ur personal chart in grp as u know tomorrow it can be back fire on u itself .Also i dont think u r not claiming that ur a mahatma or u claim u can change even the axis of earth and its rotation regrds sunil nair , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Sunil ji, > > I have Saturn-moon yoga in 2nd house. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear grp . > > > > > > > > I assume this grp is promoting learning of astro principles and > > helping the needy memebrs in case our time and will allows . > > > > > > > > Many times i thought of not to respond this kind of claims ,but > when i > > think abt many new entrants who wanted to learn and when i think > abt the > > rishis who want us to keep the tradition they pass on to us ,i > cant sit > > idle and watch this mutilation of theorys > > > > > > > > Now let us see if gr8 saints has moon sani yoga or aspects > > > > > > > > Yes many has ,many dont hav also , as sani rules various things frm > > sudratwa to vairagya ,it can be a determining factor .but not sole > > factor .As a chart as whole should be checked for any spiritual > uplift > > ment . > > > > > > > > the trikonas ( dharma ,artha LIke ) should be checked and dasa > should be > > analysed as dasa shows fruitifciation of results promised in > charts . > > > > > > > > also the sexuality shoud be under check and the yogas for material > > acquireness and greed shoud be checked , > > > > > > > > The 2nd house and lord should be good ,also 11th house ( as its > peak of > > kama trikona 3/7/11) and shows how a nativ can approach others to > make > > money .Is money comes naturaly or native earns money against > wishes of > > others or crooked methods .(no doubt malefics in 3nd and 11th is > good in > > material point view as it will giv us hard mind to earn money and > i dont > > care what ever may happen to others attitude ) > > > > > > > > 2nd house rules money and speech ,so a mahatma wat ever utter > becomes > > true ,has to happen ,so good 2nd house hows a man born with a > mission > > .Also u can see a good mahatma attracts tons of money which will b > used > > for good purpose ,all humanity may stand and sit according to his > finger > > tips ,That is depth and power of spirituality . > > > > > > > > Now if u see 11th house the karma bhava of 2nd house ,if there is > > malefics influencing thos persons approach with others tru that > way only > > ,arm twisting exercises to keep his money safe and earn such > way ,PPL > > may be treatened to giv them money . > > > > > > > > like this each bhava has to be srutinised and then we must check > tru > > VImshottary frm moon as moon shows mind and how this new born atma > will > > go tru various actions and reaction in life ,So the quality of > dasas frm > > birth to some age we can see for any growth in spiritiaity . > > > > > > > > if u go to pilgrm centres u can find lot of saffron clad > persons ,do we > > agree all them has spirituality in higher plain ,or do we agree > all r > > got their agya chakra got activated . > > > > > > > > No most of them where using saffron as cover for filling their > stomach > > or pockets and depending on their yogas they may be successful at > > various levels by utilising the sentiments of poor bhaktas and in > return > > what they contributes to society?? ,nothing . > > > > Now come to common man and moon + sat > > > > ============= > > > > it may show punaphoo dosha ,marriage and remarriage ,partner > ditching > > and deserting .,i hav 100s of charts of delayed or denied marriage > where > > the main cause of thier marriage delay or denial also sani .so do u > > agree they r spiritual too ,simply because they dont marry and age > is 50 > > or so ?? > > > > > > > > when debilated planets aspects another planets try to steal enery > frm > > that planets ,karakatwa will reflected on moon and the nativ mind > and > > hence their actions will be suitable to that planets( as all > actions > > first originates in mind ) manasa ,vaacha ,karmana . > > > > > > > > so sani can show even filty ness ,unclean ,lower mind and tamasik > > qualities > > > > > > > > i think this is enough to see sani --moon yogas and aspects > > > > next i will write abt nadies and rahu in 2nd frm jup and swami > > vivekanada chart > > > > but i will hold real secrets ,So u can compare the writings of some > > caunaught place road side nadi holders analaysis > > > > > > > > if we can see many of the yogas in our chart that may be in > mahatamas > > charts ,even avataras charts and even criminals chart ,but that > is not > > a final word >if so astrology will b kids play . > > > > > > > > but desha ,kaala ,patra principles along with these things should > be > > kept in mind > > > > the esiest way is gauge the actions of persons . > > > > if they r blessed they will like perfume ,who ever goes > near ,they > > feel the aroma ---else ---------------------ha ha. > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 u mean Ravana should not be killed ? Lord Rama was mad , u mean Duryodhan and ashwathama should not be punished ? kirshan was mad. u mean Osama should not be attacked, world was mad ? u mean afzal should not be hanged ? supreme court is wrong. u mean u should be left scot free and allowed to play with astrology and malign people's chaacter, every classic that describes astrologer's role is useless and only u r right.. Listen, keep ur gyan under ur belt.. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > // the esiest way is gauge the actions of persons . > > if they r blessed they will like perfume ,who ever > goes near ,they feel the aroma --- > else ---------------------ha ha. // > > Very well said. > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear grp . > > > > > > > > I assume this grp is promoting learning of astro principles and > > helping the needy memebrs in case our time and will allows . > > > > > > > > Many times i thought of not to respond this kind of claims ,but > when i > > think abt many new entrants who wanted to learn and when i think > abt the > > rishis who want us to keep the tradition they pass on to us ,i > cant sit > > idle and watch this mutilation of theorys > > > > > > > > Now let us see if gr8 saints has moon sani yoga or aspects > > > > > > > > Yes many has ,many dont hav also , as sani rules various things frm > > sudratwa to vairagya ,it can be a determining factor .but not sole > > factor .As a chart as whole should be checked for any spiritual > uplift > > ment . > > > > > > > > the trikonas ( dharma ,artha LIke ) should be checked and dasa > should be > > analysed as dasa shows fruitifciation of results promised in > charts . > > > > > > > > also the sexuality shoud be under check and the yogas for material > > acquireness and greed shoud be checked , > > > > > > > > The 2nd house and lord should be good ,also 11th house ( as its > peak of > > kama trikona 3/7/11) and shows how a nativ can approach others to > make > > money .Is money comes naturaly or native earns money against > wishes of > > others or crooked methods .(no doubt malefics in 3nd and 11th is > good in > > material point view as it will giv us hard mind to earn money and > i dont > > care what ever may happen to others attitude ) > > > > > > > > 2nd house rules money and speech ,so a mahatma wat ever utter > becomes > > true ,has to happen ,so good 2nd house hows a man born with a > mission > > .Also u can see a good mahatma attracts tons of money which will b > used > > for good purpose ,all humanity may stand and sit according to his > finger > > tips ,That is depth and power of spirituality . > > > > > > > > Now if u see 11th house the karma bhava of 2nd house ,if there is > > malefics influencing thos persons approach with others tru that > way only > > ,arm twisting exercises to keep his money safe and earn such > way ,PPL > > may be treatened to giv them money . > > > > > > > > like this each bhava has to be srutinised and then we must check > tru > > VImshottary frm moon as moon shows mind and how this new born atma > will > > go tru various actions and reaction in life ,So the quality of > dasas frm > > birth to some age we can see for any growth in spiritiaity . > > > > > > > > if u go to pilgrm centres u can find lot of saffron clad > persons ,do we > > agree all them has spirituality in higher plain ,or do we agree > all r > > got their agya chakra got activated . > > > > > > > > No most of them where using saffron as cover for filling their > stomach > > or pockets and depending on their yogas they may be successful at > > various levels by utilising the sentiments of poor bhaktas and in > return > > what they contributes to society?? ,nothing . > > > > Now come to common man and moon + sat > > > > ============= > > > > it may show punaphoo dosha ,marriage and remarriage ,partner > ditching > > and deserting .,i hav 100s of charts of delayed or denied marriage > where > > the main cause of thier marriage delay or denial also sani .so do u > > agree they r spiritual too ,simply because they dont marry and age > is 50 > > or so ?? > > > > > > > > when debilated planets aspects another planets try to steal enery > frm > > that planets ,karakatwa will reflected on moon and the nativ mind > and > > hence their actions will be suitable to that planets( as all > actions > > first originates in mind ) manasa ,vaacha ,karmana . > > > > > > > > so sani can show even filty ness ,unclean ,lower mind and tamasik > > qualities > > > > > > > > i think this is enough to see sani --moon yogas and aspects > > > > next i will write abt nadies and rahu in 2nd frm jup and swami > > vivekanada chart > > > > but i will hold real secrets ,So u can compare the writings of some > > caunaught place road side nadi holders analaysis > > > > > > > > if we can see many of the yogas in our chart that may be in > mahatamas > > charts ,even avataras charts and even criminals chart ,but that > is not > > a final word >if so astrology will b kids play . > > > > > > > > but desha ,kaala ,patra principles along with these things should > be > > kept in mind > > > > the esiest way is gauge the actions of persons . > > > > if they r blessed they will like perfume ,who ever goes > near ,they > > feel the aroma ---else ---------------------ha ha. > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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