Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 hare rama krishna dear satya ji thank u for re confirming it ,actualy once i discussed this with sri bhaskar ji .That time also some one was just pricking him in grp . I also blv retro planets can activate so many places in chart . any way thanks for re confirming regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > I am addressing this to you, as you mentioned about retrograde > Jupiter in the 6th house. > > According to Parasara, retrograde sixth lord gives Raja yoga, more > so when he aspects the lagna. Sri KN Rao extended this principle, by > his vast experience, that a retrograde planet in the sixth house > also gives Raja yoga. > > In your case, retrograde Ju in the 6th house, actually influences 8 > houses in your horoscope. By its normal aspect, he influences 6th, > 12th, 10th, and 2nd houses; with his retrograde aspect, he > influences four more houses, 5th, 11th, 9th and lagna. > > THus in your case retro Jupiter lends his protective shield to two > thirds of your houses. In addition, being the 8th lord for Leo > lagna, his positoin in the 6th house gives Vipareetha raja yoga > also. However, the effects of these raja yogas doesn't come to you > automatically; lot of efforts and hardship is involved since the > dusthaanas (6th and 8th) are invovled. That is also the meaning of > Vipareetha Raja yoga. > > I wanted to stay away from the debate, as it had become personal; > but I could not resist when I saw these two points from your notes; > about the Saturn aspect on Sun and Retro Ju in 6th house. These are > very standard and basic principles. > > Best regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Dear Sri Sunil, Great masters like Sri KN Rao have proved the principle in many horoscopes and I found it working pretty well. Unfortunately many astrologers consider only the negative side of retro and debilitated planets; there is an article published in Sri KN Rao's Journal of Astrology, with the title 'Romance of Debilitated 10th Lord'. Very interesting article. Regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > hare rama krishna > > dear satya ji > > > > thank u for re confirming it ,actualy once i discussed this with sri > bhaskar ji .That time also some one was just pricking him in grp . > > I also blv retro planets can activate so many places in chart . > > > > any way thanks for re confirming > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > I am addressing this to you, as you mentioned about retrograde > > Jupiter in the 6th house. > > > > According to Parasara, retrograde sixth lord gives Raja yoga, more > > so when he aspects the lagna. Sri KN Rao extended this principle, by > > his vast experience, that a retrograde planet in the sixth house > > also gives Raja yoga. > > > > In your case, retrograde Ju in the 6th house, actually influences 8 > > houses in your horoscope. By its normal aspect, he influences 6th, > > 12th, 10th, and 2nd houses; with his retrograde aspect, he > > influences four more houses, 5th, 11th, 9th and lagna. > > > > THus in your case retro Jupiter lends his protective shield to two > > thirds of your houses. In addition, being the 8th lord for Leo > > lagna, his positoin in the 6th house gives Vipareetha raja yoga > > also. However, the effects of these raja yogas doesn't come to you > > automatically; lot of efforts and hardship is involved since the > > dusthaanas (6th and 8th) are invovled. That is also the meaning of > > Vipareetha Raja yoga. > > > > I wanted to stay away from the debate, as it had become personal; > > but I could not resist when I saw these two points from your notes; > > about the Saturn aspect on Sun and Retro Ju in 6th house. These are > > very standard and basic principles. > > > > Best regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sathya ji thanks ,I also read those articles and now a days i am getting direct mails from JOA when ever they publish any new article in web too Also various nadis discussed with retro planets also ,even some maintaines that its part of unfinished karma or gr8 desire which may b the reason for his birth too . And also if u see frm Kala purusha angle sani is Karmesh and Labhesh and jup is also9th Lord of dharma and 12th lord of moksha too ,so sani jup combine is a sort of dhrma karmathi pathi yoga and off cource it depends on total strenght of the chart and foundation . thanx and regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Sri Sunil, > > Great masters like Sri KN Rao have proved the principle in many > horoscopes and I found it working pretty well. > > Unfortunately many astrologers consider only the negative side of > retro and debilitated planets; there is an article published in Sri > KN Rao's Journal of Astrology, with the title 'Romance of > Debilitated 10th Lord'. Very interesting article. > > Regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Then what abt ur lagna ( self and head ) and 10th karma Lord retrograded if its eccentric .thank u for admitting it , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > SEE BHASKAR UR FRIEND TEACHES U SOMETHING ABOUT RETROGRADATION BUT > ALL WHAT HE HUNTED FOR US IS A FRIVOLOOUS CONCEPT THAT RETROGRADATION > GIVES RESULTS FROM PREVIOUS HOUSES, ONE LINE THAT K.N RAO HAPPEN TO > WRITE FOR PEOPLE LIKE U. > > WHEN U AND ALL OF UR GANG WILL UNDERSTAND THE EXCENTRIC BEHAVIOR, THE > STRANGE BEHAVIOR OF ARETROGRADE PLANET ???? NEVER !!!! > > THIS STRANGE BEHAVIOR MAY BE GOOD, MAY BE BAD .. DEPENDS ON VARIOUS > OTHER THINGS OF THE CHART. > > WELL, YOUR FRIEND TRIED WELL TO DECLARE U A KING, DO U RULE MUMBAI ? > > THE BIGGEST JOKE OF THE DAY THAT BHASKAR IS A KING AND HIS ASTRO > FRIEND IS EMPEROR ... GOOD > > WHY DO ASTROLOGY, RULE UR KINGDOM , WHY HUNT CUSTOMERS COLLECT TAXES > FROM WE PEOPLE !!! > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > skolachi@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > I am addressing this to you, as you mentioned about retrograde > > Jupiter in the 6th house. > > > > According to Parasara, retrograde sixth lord gives Raja yoga, more > > so when he aspects the lagna. Sri KN Rao extended this principle, > by > > his vast experience, that a retrograde planet in the sixth house > > also gives Raja yoga. > > > > In your case, retrograde Ju in the 6th house, actually influences 8 > > houses in your horoscope. By its normal aspect, he influences 6th, > > 12th, 10th, and 2nd houses; with his retrograde aspect, he > > influences four more houses, 5th, 11th, 9th and lagna. > > > > THus in your case retro Jupiter lends his protective shield to two > > thirds of your houses. In addition, being the 8th lord for Leo > > lagna, his positoin in the 6th house gives Vipareetha raja yoga > > also. However, the effects of these raja yogas doesn't come to you > > automatically; lot of efforts and hardship is involved since the > > dusthaanas (6th and 8th) are invovled. That is also the meaning of > > Vipareetha Raja yoga. > > > > I wanted to stay away from the debate, as it had become personal; > > but I could not resist when I saw these two points from your notes; > > about the Saturn aspect on Sun and Retro Ju in 6th house. These are > > very standard and basic principles. > > > > Best regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Lalit, Now You are talking that the retrogression effects would be good or bad depending on the other combinations in the chart. Now You are commenting that one planet should not be seen in isolation ? Now You are commenting that You need the whole chart details to study. Then why did You comment first- on My Jupiter without having no knowledge about other combinations present in my chart ? You know nothing about astrology. Whatever little you know you have learnt from people like us who have given you free readings and you have mixed that knowledge with the creations of Your own mind which are nonsensical, to say the least. By the way, I may be among the very few, who pay Income Tax on astrological payments received. About You, we have understood, how you use the companys PC, phone and salary time of the day, for this nonsense you are spreading, in the name of spirituality and astrology . BHASKAR. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > SEE BHASKAR UR FRIEND TEACHES U SOMETHING ABOUT RETROGRADATION BUT > ALL WHAT HE HUNTED FOR US IS A FRIVOLOOUS CONCEPT THAT RETROGRADATION > GIVES RESULTS FROM PREVIOUS HOUSES, ONE LINE THAT K.N RAO HAPPEN TO > WRITE FOR PEOPLE LIKE U. > > WHEN U AND ALL OF UR GANG WILL UNDERSTAND THE EXCENTRIC BEHAVIOR, THE > STRANGE BEHAVIOR OF ARETROGRADE PLANET ???? NEVER !!!! > > THIS STRANGE BEHAVIOR MAY BE GOOD, MAY BE BAD .. DEPENDS ON VARIOUS > OTHER THINGS OF THE CHART. > > WELL, YOUR FRIEND TRIED WELL TO DECLARE U A KING, DO U RULE MUMBAI ? > > THE BIGGEST JOKE OF THE DAY THAT BHASKAR IS A KING AND HIS ASTRO > FRIEND IS EMPEROR ... GOOD > > WHY DO ASTROLOGY, RULE UR KINGDOM , WHY HUNT CUSTOMERS COLLECT TAXES > FROM WE PEOPLE !!! > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > I am addressing this to you, as you mentioned about retrograde > > Jupiter in the 6th house. > > > > According to Parasara, retrograde sixth lord gives Raja yoga, more > > so when he aspects the lagna. Sri KN Rao extended this principle, > by > > his vast experience, that a retrograde planet in the sixth house > > also gives Raja yoga. > > > > In your case, retrograde Ju in the 6th house, actually influences 8 > > houses in your horoscope. By its normal aspect, he influences 6th, > > 12th, 10th, and 2nd houses; with his retrograde aspect, he > > influences four more houses, 5th, 11th, 9th and lagna. > > > > THus in your case retro Jupiter lends his protective shield to two > > thirds of your houses. In addition, being the 8th lord for Leo > > lagna, his positoin in the 6th house gives Vipareetha raja yoga > > also. However, the effects of these raja yogas doesn't come to you > > automatically; lot of efforts and hardship is involved since the > > dusthaanas (6th and 8th) are invovled. That is also the meaning of > > Vipareetha Raja yoga. > > > > I wanted to stay away from the debate, as it had become personal; > > but I could not resist when I saw these two points from your notes; > > about the Saturn aspect on Sun and Retro Ju in 6th house. These are > > very standard and basic principles. > > > > Best regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 dEAR sHRI SATYA JI, You are very right in Your assessment. These Raja Yogas need a lot of hard work and efforts to realise. I had read about 10-12 years back when searching for results of Saturn and Jupiter Retro in 6th house, in Leo ascendant, and I found the answer in deva Keralam, translation By Shri Santhanamji, that it will act like a Exalted Jupiter. I do not have those 3 books now, cause I could not understand the concept of Shastiamsa that time, and needed funds too, so, after having got my reply, I sold them back to the book shop, alongwith other books. kind regards, Bhaskar. , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > I am addressing this to you, as you mentioned about retrograde > Jupiter in the 6th house. > > According to Parasara, retrograde sixth lord gives Raja yoga, more > so when he aspects the lagna. Sri KN Rao extended this principle, by > his vast experience, that a retrograde planet in the sixth house > also gives Raja yoga. > > In your case, retrograde Ju in the 6th house, actually influences 8 > houses in your horoscope. By its normal aspect, he influences 6th, > 12th, 10th, and 2nd houses; with his retrograde aspect, he > influences four more houses, 5th, 11th, 9th and lagna. > > THus in your case retro Jupiter lends his protective shield to two > thirds of your houses. In addition, being the 8th lord for Leo > lagna, his positoin in the 6th house gives Vipareetha raja yoga > also. However, the effects of these raja yogas doesn't come to you > automatically; lot of efforts and hardship is involved since the > dusthaanas (6th and 8th) are invovled. That is also the meaning of > Vipareetha Raja yoga. > > I wanted to stay away from the debate, as it had become personal; > but I could not resist when I saw these two points from your notes; > about the Saturn aspect on Sun and Retro Ju in 6th house. These are > very standard and basic principles. > > Best regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Dear Sri Sunil, Another great astrologer of yester years Sri R Santhanam wrote the same in his books - retrograde planets indicate unfinished karma and and a strong desire fulfil that karma in the current lifetime; hence retrograde planets have a strong bearing in one's life. The person works very hard with regards to the aspects of life represented by the lordship of retrograde planets, as well as with regards to the house of their placement; because, by all means the person needs to complete it before the end of life; that desire itself drives him in that direction and the circustances support the native completely. Astrologically when you think of retrogression, it indicates concentrated application of the said planet's influence on the house it is placed in. Another point - Kalidasa wrote in Utthara Kaalamritham, that retrograde and debilitated planet is equivalent to exalted planet, and I found this principle working very well. With respect to Shadbala (the six types of strengths) of a planet, the retrograde (or Vakra) planet gets 3 times of normal strength; it is also called Chyeshta Bala. Best regards, Satya Sai Kolachina , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear sathya ji > > > > thanks ,I also read those articles and now a days i am getting direct > mails from JOA when ever they publish any new article in web too > > > > Also various nadis discussed with retro planets also ,even some > maintaines that its part of unfinished karma or gr8 desire which may b > the reason for his birth too . > > > > And also if u see frm Kala purusha angle sani is Karmesh and Labhesh > and jup is also9th Lord of dharma and 12th lord of moksha too ,so sani > jup combine is a sort of dhrma karmathi pathi yoga and off cource it > depends on total strenght of the chart and foundation . > > > > thanx and regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > , " Satya Sai Kolachina " > <skolachi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Sunil, > > > > Great masters like Sri KN Rao have proved the principle in many > > horoscopes and I found it working pretty well. > > > > Unfortunately many astrologers consider only the negative side of > > retro and debilitated planets; there is an article published in Sri > > KN Rao's Journal of Astrology, with the title 'Romance of > > Debilitated 10th Lord'. Very interesting article. > > > > Regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Hare rama krishna , dear sri sathyaji , Thanks for the post ,it was realy informativ , I am yet to hav the copy of deva keralam .Other nadis also confirms this including Brigu samhita if my memery is correct and it gives further expansion too . Thanks for the time and effort . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , " Satya Sai Kolachina " <skolachi wrote: > > Dear Sri Sunil, > > Another great astrologer of yester years Sri R Santhanam wrote the > same in his books - retrograde planets indicate unfinished karma and > and a strong desire fulfil that karma in the current lifetime; hence > retrograde planets have a strong bearing in one's life. The person > works very hard with regards to the aspects of life represented by > the lordship of retrograde planets, as well as with regards to the > house of their placement; because, by all means the person needs to > complete it before the end of life; that desire itself drives him in > that direction and the circustances support the native completely. > Astrologically when you think of retrogression, it indicates > concentrated application of the said planet's influence on the house > it is placed in. > > Another point - Kalidasa wrote in Utthara Kaalamritham, that > retrograde and debilitated planet is equivalent to exalted planet, > and I found this principle working very well. > > With respect to Shadbala (the six types of strengths) of a planet, > the retrograde (or Vakra) planet gets 3 times of normal strength; it > is also called Chyeshta Bala. > > Best regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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