A RESEARCH ON LORD RAM'S BIRTH AND EXISTANCE

February 5, 2008

Group,

Somebody forwarded this mail to me, posting same for the interest and

awareness of the group members - Lalit.

Lord Ram was for real.

We Indians are the products of one of the oldest civilisations. We need

to be really proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage.

However, during the British Rule, we developed an inferiority complex,

which adversely affected our quest to unearth facts relating to our

glorious past. But our young and educated men and women, born and

brought up in independent India, are capable of unearthing the true

facts and are confident enough to evaluate these objectively.

Shri Ram being most basic to Indian " ethos " , it is necessary to know who

is Shri Ram? Was he really born? If yes, when and where? As is believed

by crores of people did he really put his feet on the Indian territory

from North to South, reducing the sufferings of mankind and ensuring

victory of good over evil? Let us take a look at historical facts:

The story of Shri Ram's life was first narrated by Maharishi Valmiki in

the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as the king

of Ayodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has made

sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the

life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac

constellations and the other stars (nakshatras). Needless to add that

similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in thousands

of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary configuration

of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the Valmiki

Ramayan in the software named " Planetarium " corresponding exact dates of

these events according to the English calendar can be known.

Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar of the Indian Revenue Service had acquired this

software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar eclipses and

distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered the

relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by Maharishi

Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results, which

almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of Shri Ram

to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile.

Maharishi Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand sarga 19 and shloka eight

and nine (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on ninth tithi of Chaitra

month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac

constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) were: i) Sun in Aries; ii)

Saturn in Libra; iii) Jupiter in Cancer; iv) Venus in Pisces; v) Mars in

Capricorn; vi) Lunar month of Chaitra; vii) Ninth day after no moon;

viii) Lagna as Cancer (cancer was rising in the east); ix) Moon on the

Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pllux star); x) Day time (around

noon).

This data, was fed into the software. The results indicated that this

was exactly the location of planets/stars in the noon of January 10,

5114 BC. Thus Shri Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC (7121 years

back). As per the Indian calendar it was the ninth day of Shukla Paksha

in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is

exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over India.

Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from several

books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the birth

of Christ - Valmiki Ramayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasa's Raghuvansam,

Baudh and Jain literature, etc. These books have narrated in great

detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya which had

many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was located

on the banks of the Saryu river with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh on one

side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a very long

period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign invasions

change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and alter the

territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is monumental.

The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have changed their

course about 40 km north/south.

Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per Valmiki

Ramayan) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan (Sidhhashram). From

there he went to Mithila, King Janaka's kingdom. Here he married Sita

after breaking Shiv Dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the route

adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and found 23

places which have memorials that commemorate the events related to the

life of Shri Ram. These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van,

Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal), Sita Kund, etc.

Memorials are built for great men and not for fictitious characters.

Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan's Ayodhya

Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king because

Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra, and normally under such

planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of

conspiracies. Dashratha's zodiac sign was Pisces and his nakshatra was

Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January 5,

5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14 years

of exile. Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089). There are

several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayan which indicate that Shri Ram was

25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile.

Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with

Khardushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram's exile. It is also

mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this data

was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on

October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasya day) which could be seen from Panchvati.

The planetary configuration was also the same - Mars was in the middle,

on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun and

Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in various

other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be

December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on January

2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra

month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39

(5114-5075).

A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri Ram

during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as visited

by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he went right

upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the memorials

connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the life of

Shri Ram and Sita. These include Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur

(Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram,

Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of

Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar near

Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti and

Rameshwar temple.

(The writer is a Commissioner of Income Tax posted at Delhi. The article

will conclude on the Oped page on Monday)

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In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Ram's army constructed a

bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka. After crossing this

bridge, Shri Ram's army had defeated Ravana. Recently, NASA put pictures

(reproduced here) on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the ruins of

which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram and Sri

Lanka. Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the desire to

develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this was

Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076 BC).

Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the Suryavansh and

he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant

particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya Ka Itihas written

about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram.

Professor Subhash Kak of Lousiana University, in his book, The

Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors of Shri

Ram who ruled over Ayodhya. Sri Ram's ancestors have been traced out as:

Shri Ram, King Dashratha, King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and so on.

From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere

people believe in the reality of Shri Ram's existence, particularly in

the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the

North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas revolve

around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita are true

cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of caste and

creed. Therefore, it is common heritage. After all, Shri Ram belonged to

the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born and

Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world. The words Hindu

(resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were synonymous.

India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta (where

Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of " Hindus " - derived from word Indus).

During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were

non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of shudra class

(scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter

after she was banished from Ayodhya. Luv and Kush grew in his ashram as

his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was perhaps

the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary

configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest computer

softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which proves

that he did not commit any error.

Shabari is stated to be belonging to the Bheel tribe. Shri Ram's army,

which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribals from

Central and South India. The facts, events and all other details

relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the

Indians including scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, Muslims,

Christians, etc.

Prophet Mohammad was born 1,400 years ago. Jesus Christ was born 2,000

years back. Gautam Buddha was born 2,600 years back, whereas Ram was

born 7,000 years back. Hence, discovering the details relating to Shri

Ram's life would be lot more difficult as destruction caused by floods,

earthquakes and invasions etc., would be far greater. But, should that

stop our quest for learning more about our cultural heritage?

As Indians, let us all take pride in the fact that the Indian

civilisation is the most ancient civilisation today. It is certainly

more than 10,000 years old. Therefore, let us reject the story of Aryan

invasion in India in 1,500 BC as motivated implantation. In fact Max

Mueller, who was the creator of this theory had himself rejected it. Let

us admit that during the British Rule, we were educated in the schools

based on Macaulay school of thinking which believed that everything

Indian was inferior and that entire " Indian literature was not worth

even one book rack in England " . If there were similarities in certain

features of Indian people and people from Central Europe, then automatic

inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded India and

settled here. No one dared of thinking in any other way. Therefore,

there is urgency for the historians and all other intellectuals to stop

reducing Indian history to myth. There is need to gather, dig out,

search, unearth and analyse all the evidences, which would throw more

light on ancient Indian civilisation and culture.

There is need for the print and the electronic media to take note of

these facts and create atmosphere which would motivate our young and

educated youth to carry out research and unearth true facts about the

ancient Indian civilisation and wisdom and would also encourage them to

put across the results of their research before the people fearlessly

and with a sense of pride!

February 6, 2008

Jai Shri Ram

Good Research litsol

But before all that you should have read the scriptures properly and

you needed to google a bit more. you have come up with a very good

topic though but you are undermining Indian history. First of all if

you study how long the yugas are( I wont go in detail), you will find

Shri Ram was born million of years ago.

And the same with the Adams bridge. I am just pasting the links here

which shows the truth

http://www.rense.com/general30/nasa.htm

http://www.unexplained-

mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t86417.html

http://www.geocities.com/uk20020/bridge_Srilanka_review.htm

P.S- Also study Intelligent Design theory.

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Group,

>

> Somebody forwarded this mail to me, posting same for the interest

and

> awareness of the group members - Lalit.

>

> Lord Ram was for real.

>

> We Indians are the products of one of the oldest civilisations. We

need

> to be really proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage.

> However, during the British Rule, we developed an inferiority

complex,

> which adversely affected our quest to unearth facts relating to our

> glorious past. But our young and educated men and women, born and

> brought up in independent India, are capable of unearthing the true

> facts and are confident enough to evaluate these objectively.

>

> Shri Ram being most basic to Indian " ethos " , it is necessary to

know who

> is Shri Ram? Was he really born? If yes, when and where? As is

believed

> by crores of people did he really put his feet on the Indian

territory

> from North to South, reducing the sufferings of mankind and ensuring

> victory of good over evil? Let us take a look at historical facts:

>

> The story of Shri Ram's life was first narrated by Maharishi

Valmiki in

> the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as the

king

> of Ayodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has made

> sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the

> life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> constellations and the other stars (nakshatras). Needless to add

that

> similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in

thousands

> of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary

configuration

> of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the

Valmiki

> Ramayan in the software named " Planetarium " corresponding exact

dates of

> these events according to the English calendar can be known.

>

> Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar of the Indian Revenue Service had acquired this

> software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar

eclipses and

> distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered the

> relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by Maharishi

> Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results, which

> almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of

Shri Ram

> to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile.

>

> Maharishi Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand sarga 19 and shloka

eight

> and nine (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on ninth tithi of Chaitra

> month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) were: i) Sun in

Aries; ii)

> Saturn in Libra; iii) Jupiter in Cancer; iv) Venus in Pisces; v)

Mars in

> Capricorn; vi) Lunar month of Chaitra; vii) Ninth day after no moon;

> viii) Lagna as Cancer (cancer was rising in the east); ix) Moon on

the

> Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pllux star); x) Day time (around

> noon).

>

> This data, was fed into the software. The results indicated that

this

> was exactly the location of planets/stars in the noon of January 10,

> 5114 BC. Thus Shri Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC (7121 years

> back). As per the Indian calendar it was the ninth day of Shukla

Paksha

> in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is

> exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over

India.

>

> Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from

several

> books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the

birth

> of Christ - Valmiki Ramayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasa's Raghuvansam,

> Baudh and Jain literature, etc. These books have narrated in great

> detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya which

had

> many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was

located

> on the banks of the Saryu river with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh on

one

> side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a very

long

> period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign

invasions

> change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and alter

the

> territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is

monumental.

> The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have changed

their

> course about 40 km north/south.

>

> Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per

Valmiki

> Ramayan) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan (Sidhhashram).

From

> there he went to Mithila, King Janaka's kingdom. Here he married

Sita

> after breaking Shiv Dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the route

> adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and found 23

> places which have memorials that commemorate the events related to

the

> life of Shri Ram. These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van,

> Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal), Sita Kund, etc.

> Memorials are built for great men and not for fictitious characters.

>

> Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan's

Ayodhya

> Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king

because

> Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra, and normally under

such

> planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of

> conspiracies. Dashratha's zodiac sign was Pisces and his nakshatra

was

> Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January

5,

> 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14

years

> of exile. Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089). There

are

> several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayan which indicate that Shri Ram was

> 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile.

>

> Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with

> Khardushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram's exile. It is

also

> mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this

data

> was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse

on

> October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasya day) which could be seen from

Panchvati.

> The planetary configuration was also the same - Mars was in the

middle,

> on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun

and

> Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in

various

> other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be

> December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on

January

> 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra

> month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39

> (5114-5075).

>

> A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri Ram

> during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as

visited

> by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he went

right

> upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the memorials

> connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the

life of

> Shri Ram and Sita. These include Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur

> (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram,

> Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of

> Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar near

> Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti

and

> Rameshwar temple.

>

> (The writer is a Commissioner of Income Tax posted at Delhi. The

article

> will conclude on the Oped page on Monday)

>

> --

----\

> -----------------

>

> In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Ram's army constructed

a

> bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka. After crossing

this

> bridge, Shri Ram's army had defeated Ravana. Recently, NASA put

pictures

> (reproduced here) on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the ruins of

> which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram and Sri

> Lanka. Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the desire

to

> develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this was

> Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076 BC).

>

> Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the

Suryavansh and

> he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant

> particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya Ka Itihas

written

> about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram.

>

> Professor Subhash Kak of Lousiana University, in his book, The

> Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors of

Shri

> Ram who ruled over Ayodhya. Sri Ram's ancestors have been traced

out as:

> Shri Ram, King Dashratha, King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and so

on.

> From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere

> people believe in the reality of Shri Ram's existence, particularly

in

> the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the

> North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas revolve

> around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

>

> The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita are

true

> cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of caste

and

> creed. Therefore, it is common heritage. After all, Shri Ram

belonged to

> the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born and

> Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world. The words

Hindu

> (resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were

synonymous.

> India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta

(where

> Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of " Hindus " - derived from word

Indus).

>

> During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were

> non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of shudra

class

> (scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter

> after she was banished from Ayodhya. Luv and Kush grew in his

ashram as

> his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was

perhaps

> the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary

> configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest computer

> softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which

proves

> that he did not commit any error.

>

> Shabari is stated to be belonging to the Bheel tribe. Shri Ram's

army,

> which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribals

from

> Central and South India. The facts, events and all other details

> relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the

> Indians including scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, Muslims,

> Christians, etc.

>

> Prophet Mohammad was born 1,400 years ago. Jesus Christ was born

2,000

> years back. Gautam Buddha was born 2,600 years back, whereas Ram was

> born 7,000 years back. Hence, discovering the details relating to

Shri

> Ram's life would be lot more difficult as destruction caused by

floods,

> earthquakes and invasions etc., would be far greater. But, should

that

> stop our quest for learning more about our cultural heritage?

>

> As Indians, let us all take pride in the fact that the Indian

> civilisation is the most ancient civilisation today. It is certainly

> more than 10,000 years old. Therefore, let us reject the story of

Aryan

> invasion in India in 1,500 BC as motivated implantation. In fact Max

> Mueller, who was the creator of this theory had himself rejected

it. Let

> us admit that during the British Rule, we were educated in the

schools

> based on Macaulay school of thinking which believed that everything

> Indian was inferior and that entire " Indian literature was not worth

> even one book rack in England " . If there were similarities in

certain

> features of Indian people and people from Central Europe, then

automatic

> inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded

India and

> settled here. No one dared of thinking in any other way. Therefore,

> there is urgency for the historians and all other intellectuals to

stop

> reducing Indian history to myth. There is need to gather, dig out,

> search, unearth and analyse all the evidences, which would throw

more

> light on ancient Indian civilisation and culture.

>

> There is need for the print and the electronic media to take note of

> these facts and create atmosphere which would motivate our young and

> educated youth to carry out research and unearth true facts about

the

> ancient Indian civilisation and wisdom and would also encourage

them to

> put across the results of their research before the people

fearlessly

> and with a sense of pride!

>

February 6, 2008

Actually you can read this and laugh at the today's so called

intelligent beings. Arguing about the existence of GOD(they call HIM

intelligent being). LOL. Dont waste anymore time, study the

scriptures and follow what the ENLIGHTENED SAGES(who knew the Truth)

instructed us to do. We have wasted enough births following these so

called intellectuals (scientists, indologists and historians).

Believe me they are here to make things worst as they have done in

the past.

Sanjeev

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Group,

>

> Somebody forwarded this mail to me, posting same for the interest

and

> awareness of the group members - Lalit.

>

> Lord Ram was for real.

>

> We Indians are the products of one of the oldest civilisations. We

need

> to be really proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage.

> However, during the British Rule, we developed an inferiority

complex,

> which adversely affected our quest to unearth facts relating to our

> glorious past. But our young and educated men and women, born and

> brought up in independent India, are capable of unearthing the true

> facts and are confident enough to evaluate these objectively.

>

> Shri Ram being most basic to Indian " ethos " , it is necessary to

know who

> is Shri Ram? Was he really born? If yes, when and where? As is

believed

> by crores of people did he really put his feet on the Indian

territory

> from North to South, reducing the sufferings of mankind and ensuring

> victory of good over evil? Let us take a look at historical facts:

>

> The story of Shri Ram's life was first narrated by Maharishi

Valmiki in

> the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as the

king

> of Ayodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has made

> sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the

> life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> constellations and the other stars (nakshatras). Needless to add

that

> similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in

thousands

> of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary

configuration

> of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the

Valmiki

> Ramayan in the software named " Planetarium " corresponding exact

dates of

> these events according to the English calendar can be known.

>

> Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar of the Indian Revenue Service had acquired this

> software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar

eclipses and

> distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered the

> relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by Maharishi

> Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results, which

> almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of

Shri Ram

> to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile.

>

> Maharishi Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand sarga 19 and shloka

eight

> and nine (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on ninth tithi of Chaitra

> month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) were: i) Sun in

Aries; ii)

> Saturn in Libra; iii) Jupiter in Cancer; iv) Venus in Pisces; v)

Mars in

> Capricorn; vi) Lunar month of Chaitra; vii) Ninth day after no moon;

> viii) Lagna as Cancer (cancer was rising in the east); ix) Moon on

the

> Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pllux star); x) Day time (around

> noon).

>

> This data, was fed into the software. The results indicated that

this

> was exactly the location of planets/stars in the noon of January 10,

> 5114 BC. Thus Shri Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC (7121 years

> back). As per the Indian calendar it was the ninth day of Shukla

Paksha

> in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is

> exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over

India.

>

> Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from

several

> books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the

birth

> of Christ - Valmiki Ramayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasa's Raghuvansam,

> Baudh and Jain literature, etc. These books have narrated in great

> detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya which

had

> many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was

located

> on the banks of the Saryu river with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh on

one

> side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a very

long

> period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign

invasions

> change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and alter

the

> territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is

monumental.

> The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have changed

their

> course about 40 km north/south.

>

> Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per

Valmiki

> Ramayan) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan (Sidhhashram).

From

> there he went to Mithila, King Janaka's kingdom. Here he married

Sita

> after breaking Shiv Dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the route

> adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and found 23

> places which have memorials that commemorate the events related to

the

> life of Shri Ram. These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van,

> Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal), Sita Kund, etc.

> Memorials are built for great men and not for fictitious characters.

>

> Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan's

Ayodhya

> Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king

because

> Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra, and normally under

such

> planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of

> conspiracies. Dashratha's zodiac sign was Pisces and his nakshatra

was

> Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January

5,

> 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14

years

> of exile. Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089). There

are

> several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayan which indicate that Shri Ram was

> 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile.

>

> Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with

> Khardushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram's exile. It is

also

> mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this

data

> was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse

on

> October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasya day) which could be seen from

Panchvati.

> The planetary configuration was also the same - Mars was in the

middle,

> on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun

and

> Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in

various

> other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be

> December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on

January

> 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra

> month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39

> (5114-5075).

>

> A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri Ram

> during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as

visited

> by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he went

right

> upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the memorials

> connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the

life of

> Shri Ram and Sita. These include Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur

> (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram,

> Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of

> Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar near

> Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti

and

> Rameshwar temple.

>

> (The writer is a Commissioner of Income Tax posted at Delhi. The

article

> will conclude on the Oped page on Monday)

>

> --

----\

> -----------------

>

> In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Ram's army constructed

a

> bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka. After crossing

this

> bridge, Shri Ram's army had defeated Ravana. Recently, NASA put

pictures

> (reproduced here) on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the ruins of

> which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram and Sri

> Lanka. Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the desire

to

> develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this was

> Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076 BC).

>

> Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the

Suryavansh and

> he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant

> particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya Ka Itihas

written

> about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram.

>

> Professor Subhash Kak of Lousiana University, in his book, The

> Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors of

Shri

> Ram who ruled over Ayodhya. Sri Ram's ancestors have been traced

out as:

> Shri Ram, King Dashratha, King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and so

on.

> From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere

> people believe in the reality of Shri Ram's existence, particularly

in

> the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the

> North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas revolve

> around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

>

> The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita are

true

> cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of caste

and

> creed. Therefore, it is common heritage. After all, Shri Ram

belonged to

> the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born and

> Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world. The words

Hindu

> (resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were

synonymous.

> India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta

(where

> Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of " Hindus " - derived from word

Indus).

>

> During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were

> non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of shudra

class

> (scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter

> after she was banished from Ayodhya. Luv and Kush grew in his

ashram as

> his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was

perhaps

> the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary

> configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest computer

> softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which

proves

> that he did not commit any error.

>

> Shabari is stated to be belonging to the Bheel tribe. Shri Ram's

army,

> which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribals

from

> Central and South India. The facts, events and all other details

> relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the

> Indians including scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, Muslims,

> Christians, etc.

>

> Prophet Mohammad was born 1,400 years ago. Jesus Christ was born

2,000

> years back. Gautam Buddha was born 2,600 years back, whereas Ram was

> born 7,000 years back. Hence, discovering the details relating to

Shri

> Ram's life would be lot more difficult as destruction caused by

floods,

> earthquakes and invasions etc., would be far greater. But, should

that

> stop our quest for learning more about our cultural heritage?

>

> As Indians, let us all take pride in the fact that the Indian

> civilisation is the most ancient civilisation today. It is certainly

> more than 10,000 years old. Therefore, let us reject the story of

Aryan

> invasion in India in 1,500 BC as motivated implantation. In fact Max

> Mueller, who was the creator of this theory had himself rejected

it. Let

> us admit that during the British Rule, we were educated in the

schools

> based on Macaulay school of thinking which believed that everything

> Indian was inferior and that entire " Indian literature was not worth

> even one book rack in England " . If there were similarities in

certain

> features of Indian people and people from Central Europe, then

automatic

> inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded

India and

> settled here. No one dared of thinking in any other way. Therefore,

> there is urgency for the historians and all other intellectuals to

stop

> reducing Indian history to myth. There is need to gather, dig out,

> search, unearth and analyse all the evidences, which would throw

more

> light on ancient Indian civilisation and culture.

>

> There is need for the print and the electronic media to take note of

> these facts and create atmosphere which would motivate our young and

> educated youth to carry out research and unearth true facts about

the

> ancient Indian civilisation and wisdom and would also encourage

them to

> put across the results of their research before the people

fearlessly

> and with a sense of pride!

>

February 6, 2008

Actually you can read this and laugh at the today's so called

intelligent beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design#Fine-tuned_Universe

Arguing about the existence of GOD(they call HIM intelligent being).

LOL. Dont waste anymore time, study the scriptures and follow what

the ENLIGHTENED SAGES(who knew the Truth) instructed us to do. We

have wasted enough births following these so called intellectuals

(scientists, indologists and historians). Believe me they are here to

make things worst as they have done in the past.

Sanjeev

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Group,

>

> Somebody forwarded this mail to me, posting same for the interest

and

> awareness of the group members - Lalit.

>

> Lord Ram was for real.

>

> We Indians are the products of one of the oldest civilisations. We

need

> to be really proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage.

> However, during the British Rule, we developed an inferiority

complex,

> which adversely affected our quest to unearth facts relating to our

> glorious past. But our young and educated men and women, born and

> brought up in independent India, are capable of unearthing the true

> facts and are confident enough to evaluate these objectively.

>

> Shri Ram being most basic to Indian " ethos " , it is necessary to

know who

> is Shri Ram? Was he really born? If yes, when and where? As is

believed

> by crores of people did he really put his feet on the Indian

territory

> from North to South, reducing the sufferings of mankind and ensuring

> victory of good over evil? Let us take a look at historical facts:

>

> The story of Shri Ram's life was first narrated by Maharishi

Valmiki in

> the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as the

king

> of Ayodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has made

> sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the

> life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> constellations and the other stars (nakshatras). Needless to add

that

> similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in

thousands

> of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary

configuration

> of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the

Valmiki

> Ramayan in the software named " Planetarium " corresponding exact

dates of

> these events according to the English calendar can be known.

>

> Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar of the Indian Revenue Service had acquired this

> software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar

eclipses and

> distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered the

> relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by Maharishi

> Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results, which

> almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of

Shri Ram

> to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile.

>

> Maharishi Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand sarga 19 and shloka

eight

> and nine (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on ninth tithi of Chaitra

> month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) were: i) Sun in

Aries; ii)

> Saturn in Libra; iii) Jupiter in Cancer; iv) Venus in Pisces; v)

Mars in

> Capricorn; vi) Lunar month of Chaitra; vii) Ninth day after no moon;

> viii) Lagna as Cancer (cancer was rising in the east); ix) Moon on

the

> Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pllux star); x) Day time (around

> noon).

>

> This data, was fed into the software. The results indicated that

this

> was exactly the location of planets/stars in the noon of January 10,

> 5114 BC. Thus Shri Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC (7121 years

> back). As per the Indian calendar it was the ninth day of Shukla

Paksha

> in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is

> exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over

India.

>

> Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from

several

> books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the

birth

> of Christ - Valmiki Ramayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasa's Raghuvansam,

> Baudh and Jain literature, etc. These books have narrated in great

> detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya which

had

> many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was

located

> on the banks of the Saryu river with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh on

one

> side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a very

long

> period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign

invasions

> change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and alter

the

> territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is

monumental.

> The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have changed

their

> course about 40 km north/south.

>

> Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per

Valmiki

> Ramayan) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan (Sidhhashram).

From

> there he went to Mithila, King Janaka's kingdom. Here he married

Sita

> after breaking Shiv Dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the route

> adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and found 23

> places which have memorials that commemorate the events related to

the

> life of Shri Ram. These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van,

> Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal), Sita Kund, etc.

> Memorials are built for great men and not for fictitious characters.

>

> Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan's

Ayodhya

> Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king

because

> Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra, and normally under

such

> planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of

> conspiracies. Dashratha's zodiac sign was Pisces and his nakshatra

was

> Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January

5,

> 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14

years

> of exile. Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089). There

are

> several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayan which indicate that Shri Ram was

> 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile.

>

> Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with

> Khardushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram's exile. It is

also

> mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this

data

> was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse

on

> October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasya day) which could be seen from

Panchvati.

> The planetary configuration was also the same - Mars was in the

middle,

> on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun

and

> Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in

various

> other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be

> December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on

January

> 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra

> month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39

> (5114-5075).

>

> A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri Ram

> during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as

visited

> by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he went

right

> upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the memorials

> connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the

life of

> Shri Ram and Sita. These include Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur

> (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram,

> Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of

> Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar near

> Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti

and

> Rameshwar temple.

>

> (The writer is a Commissioner of Income Tax posted at Delhi. The

article

> will conclude on the Oped page on Monday)

>

> --

----\

> -----------------

>

> In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Ram's army constructed

a

> bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka. After crossing

this

> bridge, Shri Ram's army had defeated Ravana. Recently, NASA put

pictures

> (reproduced here) on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the ruins of

> which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram and Sri

> Lanka. Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the desire

to

> develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this was

> Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076 BC).

>

> Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the

Suryavansh and

> he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant

> particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya Ka Itihas

written

> about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram.

>

> Professor Subhash Kak of Lousiana University, in his book, The

> Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors of

Shri

> Ram who ruled over Ayodhya. Sri Ram's ancestors have been traced

out as:

> Shri Ram, King Dashratha, King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and so

on.

> From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere

> people believe in the reality of Shri Ram's existence, particularly

in

> the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the

> North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas revolve

> around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

>

> The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita are

true

> cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of caste

and

> creed. Therefore, it is common heritage. After all, Shri Ram

belonged to

> the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born and

> Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world. The words

Hindu

> (resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were

synonymous.

> India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta

(where

> Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of " Hindus " - derived from word

Indus).

>

> During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were

> non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of shudra

class

> (scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter

> after she was banished from Ayodhya. Luv and Kush grew in his

ashram as

> his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was

perhaps

> the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary

> configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest computer

> softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which

proves

> that he did not commit any error.

>

> Shabari is stated to be belonging to the Bheel tribe. Shri Ram's

army,

> which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribals

from

> Central and South India. The facts, events and all other details

> relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the

> Indians including scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, Muslims,

> Christians, etc.

>

> Prophet Mohammad was born 1,400 years ago. Jesus Christ was born

2,000

> years back. Gautam Buddha was born 2,600 years back, whereas Ram was

> born 7,000 years back. Hence, discovering the details relating to

Shri

> Ram's life would be lot more difficult as destruction caused by

floods,

> earthquakes and invasions etc., would be far greater. But, should

that

> stop our quest for learning more about our cultural heritage?

>

> As Indians, let us all take pride in the fact that the Indian

> civilisation is the most ancient civilisation today. It is certainly

> more than 10,000 years old. Therefore, let us reject the story of

Aryan

> invasion in India in 1,500 BC as motivated implantation. In fact Max

> Mueller, who was the creator of this theory had himself rejected

it. Let

> us admit that during the British Rule, we were educated in the

schools

> based on Macaulay school of thinking which believed that everything

> Indian was inferior and that entire " Indian literature was not worth

> even one book rack in England " . If there were similarities in

certain

> features of Indian people and people from Central Europe, then

automatic

> inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded

India and

> settled here. No one dared of thinking in any other way. Therefore,

> there is urgency for the historians and all other intellectuals to

stop

> reducing Indian history to myth. There is need to gather, dig out,

> search, unearth and analyse all the evidences, which would throw

more

> light on ancient Indian civilisation and culture.

>

> There is need for the print and the electronic media to take note of

> these facts and create atmosphere which would motivate our young and

> educated youth to carry out research and unearth true facts about

the

> ancient Indian civilisation and wisdom and would also encourage

them to

> put across the results of their research before the people

fearlessly

> and with a sense of pride!

>

February 6, 2008

Dear Sanjeev,

You mean all what should be done, I have to do, people like u have no

responsibility towards anything, have u ever thought what u r doing at

ur end ....., all is my responsibility, So nice of u.

How conveniently u assumed that i have not read scriptures, somebody

has done something and u have no single word of appreciation..

Good Man..... I salute this selfish indian approach.

~Lalit.

, " Sanjeev Narula " <san_narula

wrote:

>

> Jai Shri Ram

> Good Research litsol

>

> But before all that you should have read the scriptures properly and

> you needed to google a bit more. you have come up with a very good

> topic though but you are undermining Indian history. First of all if

> you study how long the yugas are( I wont go in detail), you will find

> Shri Ram was born million of years ago.

> And the same with the Adams bridge. I am just pasting the links here

> which shows the truth

>

> http://www.rense.com/general30/nasa.htm

> http://www.unexplained-

> mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t86417.html

> http://www.geocities.com/uk20020/bridge_Srilanka_review.htm

>

> P.S- Also study Intelligent Design theory.

>

> , " litsol " litsol@ wrote:

> >

> > Group,

> >

> > Somebody forwarded this mail to me, posting same for the interest

> and

> > awareness of the group members - Lalit.

> >

> > Lord Ram was for real.

> >

> > We Indians are the products of one of the oldest civilisations. We

> need

> > to be really proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage.

> > However, during the British Rule, we developed an inferiority

> complex,

> > which adversely affected our quest to unearth facts relating to our

> > glorious past. But our young and educated men and women, born and

> > brought up in independent India, are capable of unearthing the true

> > facts and are confident enough to evaluate these objectively.

> >

> > Shri Ram being most basic to Indian " ethos " , it is necessary to

> know who

> > is Shri Ram? Was he really born? If yes, when and where? As is

> believed

> > by crores of people did he really put his feet on the Indian

> territory

> > from North to South, reducing the sufferings of mankind and ensuring

> > victory of good over evil? Let us take a look at historical facts:

> >

> > The story of Shri Ram's life was first narrated by Maharishi

> Valmiki in

> > the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as the

> king

> > of Ayodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has made

> > sequential astronomical references on important dates related to the

> > life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> > constellations and the other stars (nakshatras). Needless to add

> that

> > similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in

> thousands

> > of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary

> configuration

> > of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the

> Valmiki

> > Ramayan in the software named " Planetarium " corresponding exact

> dates of

> > these events according to the English calendar can be known.

> >

> > Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar of the Indian Revenue Service had acquired this

> > software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar

> eclipses and

> > distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered the

> > relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by Maharishi

> > Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results, which

> > almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of

> Shri Ram

> > to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of exile.

> >

> > Maharishi Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand sarga 19 and shloka

> eight

> > and nine (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on ninth tithi of Chaitra

> > month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> > constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) were: i) Sun in

> Aries; ii)

> > Saturn in Libra; iii) Jupiter in Cancer; iv) Venus in Pisces; v)

> Mars in

> > Capricorn; vi) Lunar month of Chaitra; vii) Ninth day after no moon;

> > viii) Lagna as Cancer (cancer was rising in the east); ix) Moon on

> the

> > Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pllux star); x) Day time (around

> > noon).

> >

> > This data, was fed into the software. The results indicated that

> this

> > was exactly the location of planets/stars in the noon of January 10,

> > 5114 BC. Thus Shri Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC (7121 years

> > back). As per the Indian calendar it was the ninth day of Shukla

> Paksha

> > in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is

> > exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over

> India.

> >

> > Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from

> several

> > books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the

> birth

> > of Christ - Valmiki Ramayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasa's Raghuvansam,

> > Baudh and Jain literature, etc. These books have narrated in great

> > detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya which

> had

> > many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was

> located

> > on the banks of the Saryu river with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh on

> one

> > side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a very

> long

> > period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign

> invasions

> > change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and alter

> the

> > territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is

> monumental.

> > The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have changed

> their

> > course about 40 km north/south.

> >

> > Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per

> Valmiki

> > Ramayan) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan (Sidhhashram).

> From

> > there he went to Mithila, King Janaka's kingdom. Here he married

> Sita

> > after breaking Shiv Dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the route

> > adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and found 23

> > places which have memorials that commemorate the events related to

> the

> > life of Shri Ram. These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka Van,

> > Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal), Sita Kund, etc.

> > Memorials are built for great men and not for fictitious characters.

> >

> > Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan's

> Ayodhya

> > Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king

> because

> > Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra, and normally under

> such

> > planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of

> > conspiracies. Dashratha's zodiac sign was Pisces and his nakshatra

> was

> > Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the January

> 5,

> > 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for 14

> years

> > of exile. Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089). There

> are

> > several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayan which indicate that Shri Ram was

> > 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile.

> >

> > Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with

> > Khardushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram's exile. It is

> also

> > mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When this

> data

> > was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar eclipse

> on

> > October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasya day) which could be seen from

> Panchvati.

> > The planetary configuration was also the same - Mars was in the

> middle,

> > on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were Sun

> and

> > Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in

> various

> > other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out to be

> > December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on

> January

> > 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in Chaitra

> > month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39

> > (5114-5075).

> >

> > A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri Ram

> > during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as

> visited

> > by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he went

> right

> > upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the memorials

> > connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the

> life of

> > Shri Ram and Sita. These include Tamsa Tal (Mandah), Shringverpur

> > (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri Ashram,

> > Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of

> > Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar near

> > Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai), Dhanushkoti

> and

> > Rameshwar temple.

> >

> > (The writer is a Commissioner of Income Tax posted at Delhi. The

> article

> > will conclude on the Oped page on Monday)

> >

> > --

> ----\

> > -----------------

> >

> > In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Ram's army constructed

> a

> > bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka. After crossing

> this

> > bridge, Shri Ram's army had defeated Ravana. Recently, NASA put

> pictures

> > (reproduced here) on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the ruins of

> > which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram and Sri

> > Lanka. Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the desire

> to

> > develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this was

> > Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076 BC).

> >

> > Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the

> Suryavansh and

> > he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other relevant

> > particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya Ka Itihas

> written

> > about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram.

> >

> > Professor Subhash Kak of Lousiana University, in his book, The

> > Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors of

> Shri

> > Ram who ruled over Ayodhya. Sri Ram's ancestors have been traced

> out as:

> > Shri Ram, King Dashratha, King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and so

> on.

> > From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat, everywhere

> > people believe in the reality of Shri Ram's existence, particularly

> in

> > the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the

> > North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas revolve

> > around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

> >

> > The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita are

> true

> > cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of caste

> and

> > creed. Therefore, it is common heritage. After all, Shri Ram

> belonged to

> > the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born and

> > Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world. The words

> Hindu

> > (resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were

> synonymous.

> > India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta

> (where

> > Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of " Hindus " - derived from word

> Indus).

> >

> > During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were

> > non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of shudra

> class

> > (scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted daughter

> > after she was banished from Ayodhya. Luv and Kush grew in his

> ashram as

> > his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was

> perhaps

> > the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary

> > configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest computer

> > softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which

> proves

> > that he did not commit any error.

> >

> > Shabari is stated to be belonging to the Bheel tribe. Shri Ram's

> army,

> > which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribals

> from

> > Central and South India. The facts, events and all other details

> > relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all the

> > Indians including scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, Muslims,

> > Christians, etc.

> >

> > Prophet Mohammad was born 1,400 years ago. Jesus Christ was born

> 2,000

> > years back. Gautam Buddha was born 2,600 years back, whereas Ram was

> > born 7,000 years back. Hence, discovering the details relating to

> Shri

> > Ram's life would be lot more difficult as destruction caused by

> floods,

> > earthquakes and invasions etc., would be far greater. But, should

> that

> > stop our quest for learning more about our cultural heritage?

> >

> > As Indians, let us all take pride in the fact that the Indian

> > civilisation is the most ancient civilisation today. It is certainly

> > more than 10,000 years old. Therefore, let us reject the story of

> Aryan

> > invasion in India in 1,500 BC as motivated implantation. In fact Max

> > Mueller, who was the creator of this theory had himself rejected

> it. Let

> > us admit that during the British Rule, we were educated in the

> schools

> > based on Macaulay school of thinking which believed that everything

> > Indian was inferior and that entire " Indian literature was not worth

> > even one book rack in England " . If there were similarities in

> certain

> > features of Indian people and people from Central Europe, then

> automatic

> > inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded

> India and

> > settled here. No one dared of thinking in any other way. Therefore,

> > there is urgency for the historians and all other intellectuals to

> stop

> > reducing Indian history to myth. There is need to gather, dig out,

> > search, unearth and analyse all the evidences, which would throw

> more

> > light on ancient Indian civilisation and culture.

> >

> > There is need for the print and the electronic media to take note of

> > these facts and create atmosphere which would motivate our young and

> > educated youth to carry out research and unearth true facts about

> the

> > ancient Indian civilisation and wisdom and would also encourage

> them to

> > put across the results of their research before the people

> fearlessly

> > and with a sense of pride!

> >

February 7, 2008

Hi Lalit

I apologise if I hurt your feelings but I didnt mean to do so. I do

appreciate your efforts. I think you took it in a wrong sense. I

didnt critisize you but I was just trying to add few things on top of

what you said. I always pray to Lord for everyone whosoever. As once

I doubted the scriptures as well so what I meant is that we shouldnt

ever think that the Sages lied at all. They really cared about the

fallen souls of kaliyuga like me so they wrote all scriptures for us.

I hope you will understand me.

Sanjeev

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Dear Sanjeev,

>

> You mean all what should be done, I have to do, people like u have

no

> responsibility towards anything, have u ever thought what u r doing

at

> ur end ....., all is my responsibility, So nice of u.

>

> How conveniently u assumed that i have not read scriptures,

somebody

> has done something and u have no single word of appreciation..

>

> Good Man..... I salute this selfish indian approach.

>

> ~Lalit.

>

, " Sanjeev Narula " <san_narula@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Jai Shri Ram

> > Good Research litsol

> >

> > But before all that you should have read the scriptures properly

and

> > you needed to google a bit more. you have come up with a very good

> > topic though but you are undermining Indian history. First of all

if

> > you study how long the yugas are( I wont go in detail), you will

find

> > Shri Ram was born million of years ago.

> > And the same with the Adams bridge. I am just pasting the links

here

> > which shows the truth

> >

> > http://www.rense.com/general30/nasa.htm

> > http://www.unexplained-

> > mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t86417.html

> > http://www.geocities.com/uk20020/bridge_Srilanka_review.htm

> >

> > P.S- Also study Intelligent Design theory.

> >

> > , " litsol " litsol@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Group,

> > >

> > > Somebody forwarded this mail to me, posting same for the

interest

> > and

> > > awareness of the group members - Lalit.

> > >

> > > Lord Ram was for real.

> > >

> > > We Indians are the products of one of the oldest civilisations.

We

> > need

> > > to be really proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage.

> > > However, during the British Rule, we developed an inferiority

> > complex,

> > > which adversely affected our quest to unearth facts relating to

our

> > > glorious past. But our young and educated men and women, born

and

> > > brought up in independent India, are capable of unearthing the

true

> > > facts and are confident enough to evaluate these objectively.

> > >

> > > Shri Ram being most basic to Indian " ethos " , it is necessary to

> > know who

> > > is Shri Ram? Was he really born? If yes, when and where? As is

> > believed

> > > by crores of people did he really put his feet on the Indian

> > territory

> > > from North to South, reducing the sufferings of mankind and

ensuring

> > > victory of good over evil? Let us take a look at historical

facts:

> > >

> > > The story of Shri Ram's life was first narrated by Maharishi

> > Valmiki in

> > > the Ramayana, which was written after Shri Ram was crowned as

the

> > king

> > > of Ayodhya. Maharishi Valmiki was a great astronomer as he has

made

> > > sequential astronomical references on important dates related

to the

> > > life of Shri Ram indicating the location of planets vis-a-vis

zodiac

> > > constellations and the other stars (nakshatras). Needless to add

> > that

> > > similar position of planets and nakshatras is not repeated in

> > thousands

> > > of years. By entering the precise details of the planetary

> > configuration

> > > of the important events in the life of Shri Ram as given in the

> > Valmiki

> > > Ramayan in the software named " Planetarium " corresponding exact

> > dates of

> > > these events according to the English calendar can be known.

> > >

> > > Mr Pushkar Bhatnagar of the Indian Revenue Service had acquired

this

> > > software from the US. It is used to predict the solar/lunar

> > eclipses and

> > > distance and location of other planets from earth. He entered

the

> > > relevant details about the planetary positions narrated by

Maharishi

> > > Valmiki and obtained very interesting and convincing results,

which

> > > almost determine the important dates starting from the birth of

> > Shri Ram

> > > to the date of his coming back to Ayodhya after 14 years of

exile.

> > >

> > > Maharishi Valmiki has recorded in Bal Kaand sarga 19 and shloka

> > eight

> > > and nine (1/18/8,9) that Shri Ram was born on ninth tithi of

Chaitra

> > > month when the position of different planets vis-a-vis zodiac

> > > constellations and nakshatras (visible stars) were: i) Sun in

> > Aries; ii)

> > > Saturn in Libra; iii) Jupiter in Cancer; iv) Venus in Pisces; v)

> > Mars in

> > > Capricorn; vi) Lunar month of Chaitra; vii) Ninth day after no

moon;

> > > viii) Lagna as Cancer (cancer was rising in the east); ix) Moon

on

> > the

> > > Punarvasu (Gemini constellation & Pllux star); x) Day time

(around

> > > noon).

> > >

> > > This data, was fed into the software. The results indicated that

> > this

> > > was exactly the location of planets/stars in the noon of

January 10,

> > > 5114 BC. Thus Shri Ram was born on January 10, 5114 BC (7121

years

> > > back). As per the Indian calendar it was the ninth day of Shukla

> > Paksha

> > > in Chaitra month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This

is

> > > exactly the time and date when Ram Navmi is celebrated all over

> > India.

> > >

> > > Shri Ram was born in Ayodhya. This fact can be ascertained from

> > several

> > > books written by Indian and foreign authors before and after the

> > birth

> > > of Christ - Valmiki Ramayan, Tulsi Ramayan, Kalidasa's

Raghuvansam,

> > > Baudh and Jain literature, etc. These books have narrated in

great

> > > detail the location, rich architecture and beauty of Ayodhya

which

> > had

> > > many palaces and temples built all over the kingdom. Ayodhya was

> > located

> > > on the banks of the Saryu river with Ganga and Panchal Pradesh

on

> > one

> > > side and Mithila on the other side. Normally 7,000 years is a

very

> > long

> > > period during which earthquakes, storms, floods and foreign

> > invasions

> > > change the course of rivers, destroy the towns/buildings and

alter

> > the

> > > territories. Therefore, the task of unearthing the facts is

> > monumental.

> > > The present Ayodhya has shrunk in size and the rivers have

changed

> > their

> > > course about 40 km north/south.

> > >

> > > Shri Ram went out of Ayodhya in his childhood (13th year as per

> > Valmiki

> > > Ramayan) with Rishi Vishwamitra who lived in Tapovan

(Sidhhashram).

> > From

> > > there he went to Mithila, King Janaka's kingdom. Here he married

> > Sita

> > > after breaking Shiv Dhanusha. Researchers have gone along the

route

> > > adopted by Shri Ram as narrated in the Valmiki Ramayan and

found 23

> > > places which have memorials that commemorate the events related

to

> > the

> > > life of Shri Ram. These include Shringi Ashram, Ramghat, Tadka

Van,

> > > Sidhhashram, Gautamashram, Janakpur (now in Nepal), Sita Kund,

etc.

> > > Memorials are built for great men and not for fictitious

characters.

> > >

> > > Date of exile of Shri Ram: It is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan's

> > Ayodhya

> > > Kand (2/4/18) that Dashratha wanted to make Shri Ram the king

> > because

> > > Sun, Mars and Rahu had surrounded his nakshatra, and normally

under

> > such

> > > planetary configuration the king dies or becomes a victim of

> > > conspiracies. Dashratha's zodiac sign was Pisces and his

nakshatra

> > was

> > > Rewati. This planetary configuration was prevailing on the

January

> > 5,

> > > 5089 BC, and it was on this day that Shri Ram left Ayodhya for

14

> > years

> > > of exile. Thus, he was 25 years old at that time (5114-5089).

There

> > are

> > > several shlokas in Valmiki Ramayan which indicate that Shri Ram

was

> > > 25-years-old when he left Ayodhya for exile.

> > >

> > > Valmiki Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war

with

> > > Khardushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram's exile. It is

> > also

> > > mentioned it was amavasya day and Mars was in the middle. When

this

> > data

> > > was entered, the software indicated that there was a solar

eclipse

> > on

> > > October 7, 5077 BC, (amavasya day) which could be seen from

> > Panchvati.

> > > The planetary configuration was also the same - Mars was in the

> > middle,

> > > on one side were Venus and Mercury and on the other side were

Sun

> > and

> > > Saturn. On the basis of planetary configurations described in

> > various

> > > other chapters, the date on which Ravana was killed works out

to be

> > > December 4, 5076 BC, and Shri Ram completed 14 years of exile on

> > January

> > > 2, 5075 BC, and that day was also Navami of Shukla Paksha in

Chaitra

> > > month. Thus Shri Ram had come back to Ayodhya at the age of 39

> > > (5114-5075).

> > >

> > > A colleague, Dr Ram Avtar, researched on places visited by Shri

Ram

> > > during his exile, and sequentially moved to the places stated as

> > visited

> > > by Shri Ram in the Valmiki Ramayan, starting from Ayodhya he

went

> > right

> > > upto Rameshwaram. He found 195 places which still have the

memorials

> > > connected to the events narrated in the Ramayana relating to the

> > life of

> > > Shri Ram and Sita. These include Tamsa Tal (Mandah),

Shringverpur

> > > (Singraur), Bhardwaj Ashram (situated near Allahabad), Atri

Ashram,

> > > Markandaya Ashram (Markundi), Chitrakoot, Pamakuti (on banks of

> > > Godavari), Panchvati, Sita Sarovar, Ram Kund in Triambakeshwar

near

> > > Nasik, Shabari Ashram, Kishkindha (village Annagorai),

Dhanushkoti

> > and

> > > Rameshwar temple.

> > >

> > > (The writer is a Commissioner of Income Tax posted at Delhi. The

> > article

> > > will conclude on the Oped page on Monday)

> > >

> > > -------------------------------

----

> > ----\

> > > -----------------

> > >

> > > In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that Shri Ram's army

constructed

> > a

> > > bridge over the sea between Rameshwaram and Lanka. After

crossing

> > this

> > > bridge, Shri Ram's army had defeated Ravana. Recently, NASA put

> > pictures

> > > (reproduced here) on the Internet of a man-made bridge, the

ruins of

> > > which are lying submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram

and Sri

> > > Lanka. Recently the Sri Lankan Government had expressed the

desire

> > to

> > > develop Sita Vatika as a tourist spot. Sri Lankans believe this

was

> > > Ashok Vatika where Ravana had kept Sita as a prisoner (in 5076

BC).

> > >

> > > Indian history has recorded that Shri Ram belonged to the

> > Suryavansh and

> > > he was the 64th ruler of this dynasty. The names and other

relevant

> > > particulars of previous 63 kings are listed in Ayodhya Ka Itihas

> > written

> > > about 80 years ago by Rai Bahadur Sita Ram.

> > >

> > > Professor Subhash Kak of Lousiana University, in his book, The

> > > Astronomical Code of the Rig Veda, has also listed 63 ancestors

of

> > Shri

> > > Ram who ruled over Ayodhya. Sri Ram's ancestors have been traced

> > out as:

> > > Shri Ram, King Dashratha, King Aja, King Raghu, King Dilip and

so

> > on.

> > > From Kashmir to Kanyakumari and from Bengal to Gujarat,

everywhere

> > > people believe in the reality of Shri Ram's existence,

particularly

> > in

> > > the tribal areas of Himachal, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and the

> > > North-East. Most of the festivals celebrated in these areas

revolve

> > > around the events in the life of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

> > >

> > > The events and places related to the life of Shri Ram and Sita

are

> > true

> > > cultural and social heritage of every Indian irrespective of

caste

> > and

> > > creed. Therefore, it is common heritage. After all, Shri Ram

> > belonged to

> > > the period when Prophet Mohammed or Jesus Christ were not born

and

> > > Muslim or Christian faiths were unknown to the world. The words

> > Hindu

> > > (resident of Hindustan) and Indian (resident of India) were

> > synonymous.

> > > India was also known as Bharat (land of knowledge) and Aryavarta

> > (where

> > > Aryans live) and Hindustan (land of " Hindus " - derived from word

> > Indus).

> > >

> > > During Ram Rajya, the evils of caste system based on birth were

> > > non-existent. In fact, Maharishi Valmiki is stated to be of

shudra

> > class

> > > (scheduled caste), still Sita lived with him as his adopted

daughter

> > > after she was banished from Ayodhya. Luv and Kush grew in his

> > ashram as

> > > his disciples. We need to be proud of the fact that Valmiki was

> > perhaps

> > > the first great astronomer and that his study of planetary

> > > configurations has stood the test of times. Even the latest

computer

> > > softwares have corroborated his astronomical calculations, which

> > proves

> > > that he did not commit any error.

> > >

> > > Shabari is stated to be belonging to the Bheel tribe. Shri Ram's

> > army,

> > > which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various

tribals

> > from

> > > Central and South India. The facts, events and all other details

> > > relating to the life of Shri Ram are the common heritage of all

the

> > > Indians including scheduled castes, scheduled tribes, Muslims,

> > > Christians, etc.

> > >

> > > Prophet Mohammad was born 1,400 years ago. Jesus Christ was born

> > 2,000

> > > years back. Gautam Buddha was born 2,600 years back, whereas

Ram was

> > > born 7,000 years back. Hence, discovering the details relating

to

> > Shri

> > > Ram's life would be lot more difficult as destruction caused by

> > floods,

> > > earthquakes and invasions etc., would be far greater. But,

should

> > that

> > > stop our quest for learning more about our cultural heritage?

> > >

> > > As Indians, let us all take pride in the fact that the Indian

> > > civilisation is the most ancient civilisation today. It is

certainly

> > > more than 10,000 years old. Therefore, let us reject the story

of

> > Aryan

> > > invasion in India in 1,500 BC as motivated implantation. In

fact Max

> > > Mueller, who was the creator of this theory had himself rejected

> > it. Let

> > > us admit that during the British Rule, we were educated in the

> > schools

> > > based on Macaulay school of thinking which believed that

everything

> > > Indian was inferior and that entire " Indian literature was not

worth

> > > even one book rack in England " . If there were similarities in

> > certain

> > > features of Indian people and people from Central Europe, then

> > automatic

> > > inference drawn was that the Aryans coming from Europe invaded

> > India and

> > > settled here. No one dared of thinking in any other way.

Therefore,

> > > there is urgency for the historians and all other intellectuals

to

> > stop

> > > reducing Indian history to myth. There is need to gather, dig

out,

> > > search, unearth and analyse all the evidences, which would throw

> > more

> > > light on ancient Indian civilisation and culture.

> > >

> > > There is need for the print and the electronic media to take

note of

> > > these facts and create atmosphere which would motivate our

young and

> > > educated youth to carry out research and unearth true facts

about

> > the

> > > ancient Indian civilisation and wisdom and would also encourage

> > them to

> > > put across the results of their research before the people

> > fearlessly

> > > and with a sense of pride!

> > >

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