Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bharat ji, > > We all are aware of Sri Ash's qualtiy astrology from many years and > i donot think that if anyone questions Ash's skills and we go and > try to make him convince. > > IF anyone is not using KAS then its his mistake , not Ash's. > > and i dont think that Ash need to give any kind of explanation abt > the theory he is following. > > I am also in astrology forum from past 5 yrs and i am aware. But i > never questioned him in forum , rather i read all his forum mails > and then got convinced myself and this is the suitable way also. > > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > Well, to many Simha in one place . Every technic is a good tecnic, if work in reality. > , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > > > I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a > puzzle about my > > cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the > mahadasha and > > antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the > puzzle. > > Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could > predict > > correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. > > > > Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and > Karunya, > > someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having > Sandeep > > Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look > likely that > > Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before > the final > > results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. > > > > In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be > accepted. > > Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with > humility and > > accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents > qualities of > > humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his > advice. If you > > check his group, you would know the contribution he is making > single > > handedly to this science. > > > > He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose > ashtakavarga > > system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga > that is > > generally followed and that should not make him any less an > astrologer than > > he is. > > > > Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and > > friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit > astrology. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial > justification, If > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > done a > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > what > > > i saw. > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a > native > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > deep > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as > per > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > and > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > forum > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > <% > 40> > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that > he > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > accurately > > > > > time > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > developed a > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > > hangups > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > adverse > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > person > > > > > to > > > > >> say the least. > > > > >> > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > period > > > > > of > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > which > > > > > i > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > events > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to > come > > > to > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > system > > > to > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > > humble > > > > >> guru. > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever > the > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > practioner > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > >> best wishes > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> <% > 40> > > > > >> [ <% > 40>] > > > On > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > >>> <% > 40> > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th > house is > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > workers, > > > > >>> thus a > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u > get > > > > >> care > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > diseasses > > > > >> that > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > struggle, > > > > >>> see, > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good > (as > > > > >>> per > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > prone > > > > >> to > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That > is > > > > > how > > > > >>> I > > > > >>>> approach > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak > for > > > > >> 6th > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also > for > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery > power > > > > > as > > > > >>> lord > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > house > > > > >> is > > > > >>> most > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered > as > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest > power > > > > >>> planet > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > sthan > > > > >> for > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our > feelings > > > > > to > > > > >>> death > > > > >>>> of > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > > that > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>> our > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > as " dushtana " > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > > 1st, > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. > So > > > > > for > > > > >>>> these house > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house > ruled by > > > > >>> them > > > > >>>> get > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also > gets > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > spiritual > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > perspective > > > > >> how > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> can be > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify > them > > > > > as > > > > >>> good > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > >>>> and > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> [@ <% > 40> > > > > >>> ] On > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > > is > > > > >>> karak > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. > How > > > > >> it > > > > >>> can > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. > It > > > > >> is > > > > >>> 6th > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > house. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > Transit > > > > >> is > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > > not > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > > then > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > > is > > > > >>> going > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > meaning. > > > > >> Sa > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > degree > > > > >>> of > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > > look > > > > >>> up > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > Kalprush > > > > >>> chart > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > house > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> [@ <% > 40> > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > <%25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > Krishna > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>>> his > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in > Sag > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > >> Pisces > > > > >>> as > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > > >> and > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > >>> ca > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > <%25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> [@ <% > <%25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <% > 25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > contribute > > > > >> in > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > please > > > > >>> use > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > see. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <% > 25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Dear Mr. Bharat, Namaskaar, W'd like to see what kind of puzzle u posted and what were the clues there, see, what is fundamentally incorrect can not give correct end results, but as i said, some of vedic astrology's principles they apply, do u think they will not work, such principles will always work. I didnt find anything like this in his web site that is being advocated by mr. tarun. regards, Lalit. , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a puzzle about my > cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the mahadasha and > antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the puzzle. > Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could predict > correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. > > Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and Karunya, > someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having Sandeep > Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look likely that > Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before the final > results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. > > In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be accepted. > Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with humility and > accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents qualities of > humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his advice. If you > check his group, you would know the contribution he is making single > handedly to this science. > > He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose ashtakavarga > system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga that is > generally followed and that should not make him any less an astrologer than > he is. > > Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and > friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit astrology. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol wrote: > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > > this is the same Ash. > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > > i saw. > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > > 9 planets. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > <% 40>, > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > <% 40> > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > > time > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > hangups > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > > > to > > > >> say the least. > > > >> > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > > > of > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > > > i > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > > to > > > >> conclutions. > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > > to > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > humble > > > >> guru. > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > practioner > > > >> of this divine science. > > > >> best wishes > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> <% 40> > > > >> [ <% 40>] > > On > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > >>> <% 40> > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > >>> > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > >>> > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > >>> > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > >>> > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > >>> > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > >>> > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > >>> > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > >>> > > > >>> best wishes, > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > >>> > > > >>> @ <%40> > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > > >> most > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > > > >>> thus a > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > > >> care > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > > >> that > > > >>> it > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > struggle, > > > >>> see, > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> regards, > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > > >>> per > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > > >> to > > > >>>> sickness. > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > how > > > >>> I > > > >>>> approach > > > >>>>> it. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > > >> 6th > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 1st both > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > >>>> Individuality > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house so good > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > as > > > >>> lord > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > > >> is > > > >>> most > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 8th house > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > >> most > > > >>>> benefic and > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > >>> planet > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > > >> for > > > >>>> 8th). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > to > > > >>> death > > > >>>> of > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > that > > > >>> is > > > >>>> our > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > > >>> sthan. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house. Also > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > 1st, > > > >>> 9th, > > > >>>> is karak > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > for > > > >>>> these house > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > >>> perspective. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > > >>> them > > > >>>> get > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > spiritual > > > >>>> plane and > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > > >> how > > > >>> it > > > >>>> can be > > > >>>>> bad? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > as > > > >>> good > > > >>>> or bad > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > >>> sushtana > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> _____ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> > > > >>>> [@ <% 40> > > > >>> ] On > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > >>>>> friends. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > is > > > >>> karak > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > > >> it > > > >>> can > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > > >> is > > > >>> 6th > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > >>> upachaya > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > house. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > Transit > > > >> is > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > not > > > >>>>> followed in > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > then > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > is > > > >>> going > > > >>>>> over a > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > meaning. > > > >> Sa > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > degree > > > >>> of > > > >>>>> transit of > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > look > > > >>> up > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > Kalprush > > > >>> chart > > > >>>>> has more > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > house > > > >>> is > > > >>>>> good. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> [@ <% 40> > > > >>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% <% 25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > Krishna > > > >>> and > > > >>>>> his > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > >>>>> compared > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > >> Pisces > > > >>> as > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > >> and > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > >>>> relatives, > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > >>> ca > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <% 25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <% 25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > contribute > > > >> in > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > >>>>>>> as > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > please > > > >>> use > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > see. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <% 25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Dear Sirs These exchanges remind me of a Shloka from Bhartrihari's 'Nitishataka' which when translated means in nutshell as: " It's much easier to convince a 'gyani', it is also easy to convince a novice. It is however impossible for even Lord Brahma to convince the alpagyani who erroneously thinks that he knows. " No offences meant. K C Dwivedi , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Mr. Bharat, > > Namaskaar, W'd like to see what kind of puzzle u posted and what were > the clues there, see, what is fundamentally incorrect can not give > correct end results, but as i said, some of vedic astrology's > principles they apply, do u think they will not work, such principles > will always work. > > I didnt find anything like this in his web site that is being > advocated by mr. tarun. > > regards, > Lalit. > > , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > > > I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a puzzle > about my > > cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the mahadasha > and > > antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the > puzzle. > > Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could > predict > > correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. > > > > Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and > Karunya, > > someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having > Sandeep > > Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look > likely that > > Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before > the final > > results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. > > > > In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be > accepted. > > Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with > humility and > > accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents > qualities of > > humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his > advice. If you > > check his group, you would know the contribution he is making single > > handedly to this science. > > > > He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose > ashtakavarga > > system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga > that is > > generally followed and that should not make him any less an > astrologer than > > he is. > > > > Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and > > friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit > astrology. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, > If > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > done a > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > what > > > i saw. > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > deep > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > and > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > forum > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > <% > 40> > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > accurately > > > > > time > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > developed a > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > > hangups > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > adverse > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > person > > > > > to > > > > >> say the least. > > > > >> > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > period > > > > > of > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > which > > > > > i > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > events > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to > come > > > to > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > system > > > to > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > > humble > > > > >> guru. > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever > the > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > practioner > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > >> best wishes > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> <% > 40> > > > > >> [ <% > 40>] > > > On > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > >>> <% > 40> > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house > is > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > workers, > > > > >>> thus a > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u > get > > > > >> care > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > diseasses > > > > >> that > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > struggle, > > > > >>> see, > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good > (as > > > > >>> per > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > prone > > > > >> to > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > > how > > > > >>> I > > > > >>>> approach > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak > for > > > > >> 6th > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > > as > > > > >>> lord > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > house > > > > >> is > > > > >>> most > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > > >>> planet > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > sthan > > > > >> for > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > > to > > > > >>> death > > > > >>>> of > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > > that > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>> our > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > as " dushtana " > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > > 1st, > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > > for > > > > >>>> these house > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled > by > > > > >>> them > > > > >>>> get > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also > gets > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > spiritual > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > perspective > > > > >> how > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> can be > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > > as > > > > >>> good > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > >>>> and > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> [@ <% > 40> > > > > >>> ] On > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > > is > > > > >>> karak > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. > How > > > > >> it > > > > >>> can > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. > It > > > > >> is > > > > >>> 6th > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > house. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > Transit > > > > >> is > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > > not > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > > then > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > > is > > > > >>> going > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > meaning. > > > > >> Sa > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > degree > > > > >>> of > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > > look > > > > >>> up > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > Kalprush > > > > >>> chart > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > house > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> [@ <% > 40> > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% <% > 25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > Krishna > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>>> his > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > >> Pisces > > > > >>> as > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > > >> and > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > >>> ca > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <% > 25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> [@ <% > <%25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <% > 25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > contribute > > > > >> in > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > please > > > > >>> use > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > see. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <% > 25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Namaste Sri Lalit The puzzle is in the archives and you may check it there. I would also suggest not to judge Sri Ash through Tarun's eyes. Furthermore, many of our astrology methods and texts remain hidden. Many families also keep many of astrological texts hidden. The base of Krushna ashtakvarga system may be is from a similar hidden text. We should not reject it as fundamentally incorrect. Let me also cite the example of Sri K. N. Rao's Chara dasha method - which he says he assimilated by studying methods of an astrologer in Andhra Pradesh. Many people feel his Chara Dasha method is fundamentally incorrect, but, it gives very good results if one may try it. It may be another hidden method. In study of any subject, especially when many texts remain hidden, obscure and untapped, it is best to keep an open mind. Furthermore, even with fundamentally correct methods, I have seen each and every astrologer I know, make mistakes. Only the Lord knows results for sure and we can only be true to what we know, which may not be whole. It is my suggestion that if you have time, then, go through their lessons which they offer free and then take up critical analysis of their methods. I am sure in their group astrologyandtimings, they encourage questioning and would entertain logical and principle based discussion with you. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/12/08, litsol <litsol wrote: > > Dear Mr. Bharat, > > Namaskaar, W'd like to see what kind of puzzle u posted and what were > the clues there, see, what is fundamentally incorrect can not give > correct end results, but as i said, some of vedic astrology's > principles they apply, do u think they will not work, such principles > will always work. > > I didnt find anything like this in his web site that is being > advocated by mr. tarun. > > regards, > Lalit. > > <%40>, > " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > <astrologyhindu wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > > > I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a puzzle > about my > > cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the mahadasha > and > > antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the > puzzle. > > Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could > predict > > correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. > > > > Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and > Karunya, > > someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having > Sandeep > > Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look > likely that > > Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before > the final > > results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. > > > > In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be > accepted. > > Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with > humility and > > accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents > qualities of > > humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his > advice. If you > > check his group, you would know the contribution he is making single > > handedly to this science. > > > > He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose > ashtakavarga > > system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga > that is > > generally followed and that should not make him any less an > astrologer than > > he is. > > > > Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and > > friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit > astrology. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol wrote: > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, > If > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > done a > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > what > > > i saw. > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > deep > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > and > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > <%40><% > 40>, > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > forum > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > <%40><% > 40> > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40><% > 40>, > > > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > accurately > > > > > time > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > developed a > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > > hangups > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > adverse > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > person > > > > > to > > > > >> say the least. > > > > >> > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > period > > > > > of > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > which > > > > > i > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > events > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to > come > > > to > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > system > > > to > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > > humble > > > > >> guru. > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever > the > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > practioner > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > >> best wishes > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> <%40><% > 40> > > > > >> [ <%40><JyotishGrou\ p% > 40>] > > > On > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > >>> To: <%40><% > 40> > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> @ <%40> > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house > is > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > workers, > > > > >>> thus a > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u > get > > > > >> care > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > diseasses > > > > >> that > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > struggle, > > > > >>> see, > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> @ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good > (as > > > > >>> per > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > prone > > > > >> to > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > > how > > > > >>> I > > > > >>>> approach > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak > for > > > > >> 6th > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > > as > > > > >>> lord > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > house > > > > >> is > > > > >>> most > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > > >>> planet > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > sthan > > > > >> for > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > > to > > > > >>> death > > > > >>>> of > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > > that > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>> our > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > as " dushtana " > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > > 1st, > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > > for > > > > >>>> these house > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled > by > > > > >>> them > > > > >>>> get > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also > gets > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > spiritual > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > perspective > > > > >> how > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> can be > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > > as > > > > >>> good > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > >>>> and > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> [@ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > >>> ] On > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > > is > > > > >>> karak > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. > How > > > > >> it > > > > >>> can > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. > It > > > > >> is > > > > >>> 6th > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > house. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > Transit > > > > >> is > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > > not > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > > then > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > > is > > > > >>> going > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > meaning. > > > > >> Sa > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > degree > > > > >>> of > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > > look > > > > >>> up > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > Kalprush > > > > >>> chart > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > house > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> [@ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > 25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > Krishna > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>>> his > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > >> Pisces > > > > >>> as > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > > >> and > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > >>> ca > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > 25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > <%25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > 25> > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > contribute > > > > >> in > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > please > > > > >>> use > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > see. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <%<%25> > <%25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > 25> > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Namaskaar In an open discussion forum, one can clarify the principles used by another astrologer and Sri Lalit seems to be questioning the same. It would not be nice to judge anyone as a alpagyani. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/12/08, kcdd8 <kcdd8 wrote: > > Dear Sirs > > These exchanges remind me of a Shloka from > Bhartrihari's 'Nitishataka' which when translated means in nutshell > as: " It's much easier to convince a 'gyani', it is also easy to > convince a novice. It is however impossible for even Lord Brahma to > convince the alpagyani who erroneously thinks that he knows. " > > No offences meant. > > K C Dwivedi--- In <%40>, > " litsol " > <litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Bharat, > > > > Namaskaar, W'd like to see what kind of puzzle u posted and what > were > > the clues there, see, what is fundamentally incorrect can not give > > correct end results, but as i said, some of vedic astrology's > > principles they apply, do u think they will not work, such > principles > > will always work. > > > > I didnt find anything like this in his web site that is being > > advocated by mr. tarun. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > <%40>, > " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > > > > > I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a > puzzle > > about my > > > cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the > mahadasha > > and > > > antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the > > puzzle. > > > Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could > > predict > > > correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. > > > > > > Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and > > Karunya, > > > someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having > > Sandeep > > > Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look > > likely that > > > Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before > > the final > > > results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. > > > > > > In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be > > accepted. > > > Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with > > humility and > > > accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents > > qualities of > > > humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his > > advice. If you > > > check his group, you would know the contribution he is making > single > > > handedly to this science. > > > > > > He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose > > ashtakavarga > > > system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga > > that is > > > generally followed and that should not make him any less an > > astrologer than > > > he is. > > > > > > Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and > > > friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit > > astrology. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there > and > > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial > justification, > > If > > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > > done a > > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this > is > > what > > > > i saw. > > > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a > native > > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump > too > > deep > > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as > per > > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 > houses > > and > > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > 40>, > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > > forum > > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, > I > > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > To: <%40><% > > 40> > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back > that he > > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40><% > > 40>, > > > > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > > accurately > > > > > > time > > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > > developed a > > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with > no > > > > > > hangups > > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > > adverse > > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of > the > > person > > > > > > to > > > > > >> say the least. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > > period > > > > > > of > > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year > period > > which > > > > > > i > > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does > deserve a > > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > > events > > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use > to > > come > > > > to > > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > > system > > > > to > > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of > this > > > > > > humble > > > > > >> guru. > > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, > whatever > > the > > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > > practioner > > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > > >> best wishes > > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> <%40><% > > 40> > > > > > >> [ <%40><JyotishGrou\ p% > > 40>] > > > > On > > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > > >>> To: <%40><% > > 40> > > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> @ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th > house > > is > > > > > >> most > > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > > workers, > > > > > >>> thus a > > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, > u > > get > > > > > >> care > > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > > diseasses > > > > > >> that > > > > > >>> it > > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > > struggle, > > > > > >>> see, > > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is > good > > (as > > > > > >>> per > > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > > prone > > > > > >> to > > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. > That is > > > > > > how > > > > > >>> I > > > > > >>>> approach > > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural > karak > > for > > > > > >> 6th > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related > to > > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also > for > > > > > > 6th > > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery > power > > > > > > as > > > > > >>> lord > > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > > house > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> most > > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most > benefic > > > > > > house > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is > considered as > > > > > >> most > > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest > power > > > > > >>> planet > > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > > sthan > > > > > >> for > > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our > feelings > > > > > > to > > > > > >>> death > > > > > >>>> of > > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being > said, > > > > > > that > > > > > >>> is > > > > > >>>> our > > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > > house > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > > as " dushtana " > > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. > Only > > > > > > 6th > > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya > for > > > > > > 1st, > > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as > well. So > > > > > > for > > > > > >>>> these house > > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house > ruled > > by > > > > > >>> them > > > > > >>>> get > > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits > also > > gets > > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > > perspective > > > > > >> how > > > > > >>> it > > > > > >>>> can be > > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify > them > > > > > > as > > > > > >>> good > > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint > the > > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> [@ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>> ] On > > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > > >>>>> @ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th > house > > > > > > is > > > > > >>> karak > > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of > death. > > How > > > > > >> it > > > > > >>> can > > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for > income. > > It > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> 6th > > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > > house. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > > Transit > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> for > > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which > is > > > > > > not > > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in > total > > > > > > then > > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and > Sa > > > > > > is > > > > > >>> going > > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > > meaning. > > > > > >> Sa > > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > > degree > > > > > >>> of > > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you > can > > > > > > look > > > > > >>> up > > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > > Kalprush > > > > > >>> chart > > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > > house > > > > > >>> is > > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> [@ <%<%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25> > 40> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> @ <%<%25> > <% > > 25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>>> his > > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in > Sag > > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > > >> Pisces > > > > > >>> as > > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for > you > > > > > >> and > > > > > >>> for > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > >>> ca > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <%<%25> > <% > > 25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> [@ <%<%25> > > <%25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > <% > > 25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <%<%25> > > <%25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > > contribute > > > > > >> in > > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > > please > > > > > >>> use > > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > > see. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <%<%25> > > <%25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <%<%25> > > <%25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > <% > > 25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Namaste Bharat Bhai, A good mail and a good suggestion for all of us. I too would like to learn his method someday, before commenting on the same. In the meanwhile I am happy and content with the knowledge that mr. Ash is a huble and pious soul who means no harm for anyone and always leaves us with a cheerful note and rememberance. regards, Bhaskar. , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > The puzzle is in the archives and you may check it there. > > I would also suggest not to judge Sri Ash through Tarun's eyes. Furthermore, > many of our astrology methods and texts remain hidden. Many families also > keep many of astrological texts hidden. The base of Krushna ashtakvarga > system may be is from a similar hidden text. We should not reject it as > fundamentally incorrect. Let me also cite the example of Sri K. N. Rao's > Chara dasha method - which he says he assimilated by studying methods of an > astrologer in Andhra Pradesh. Many people feel his Chara Dasha method is > fundamentally incorrect, but, it gives very good results if one may try it. > It may be another hidden method. > > In study of any subject, especially when many texts remain hidden, obscure > and untapped, it is best to keep an open mind. > > Furthermore, even with fundamentally correct methods, I have seen each and > every astrologer I know, make mistakes. Only the Lord knows results for sure > and we can only be true to what we know, which may not be whole. > > It is my suggestion that if you have time, then, go through their lessons > which they offer free and then take up critical analysis of their methods. I > am sure in their group astrologyandtimings, they encourage questioning and > would entertain logical and principle based discussion with you. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat On 1/12/08, litsol <litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Bharat, > > > > Namaskaar, W'd like to see what kind of puzzle u posted and what were > > the clues there, see, what is fundamentally incorrect can not give > > correct end results, but as i said, some of vedic astrology's > > principles they apply, do u think they will not work, such principles > > will always work. > > > > I didnt find anything like this in his web site that is being > > advocated by mr. tarun. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > <% 40>, > > " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > > > > > I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a puzzle > > about my > > > cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the mahadasha > > and > > > antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the > > puzzle. > > > Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could > > predict > > > correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. > > > > > > Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and > > Karunya, > > > someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having > > Sandeep > > > Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look > > likely that > > > Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before > > the final > > > results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. > > > > > > In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be > > accepted. > > > Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with > > humility and > > > accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents > > qualities of > > > humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his > > advice. If you > > > check his group, you would know the contribution he is making single > > > handedly to this science. > > > > > > He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose > > ashtakavarga > > > system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga > > that is > > > generally followed and that should not make him any less an > > astrologer than > > > he is. > > > > > > Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and > > > friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit > > astrology. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, > > If > > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > > done a > > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > > what > > > > i saw. > > > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > > deep > > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > > and > > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > > forum > > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40> > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > > accurately > > > > > > time > > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > > developed a > > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > > > hangups > > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > > adverse > > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > > person > > > > > > to > > > > > >> say the least. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > > period > > > > > > of > > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > > which > > > > > > i > > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > > events > > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to > > come > > > > to > > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > > system > > > > to > > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > > > humble > > > > > >> guru. > > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever > > the > > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > > practioner > > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > > >> best wishes > > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> <% 40><% > > 40> > > > > > >> [ <% 40><% > > 40>] > > > > On > > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > > >>> <% 40><% > > 40> > > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> @ <% 40> > > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house > > is > > > > > >> most > > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > > workers, > > > > > >>> thus a > > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u > > get > > > > > >> care > > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > > diseasses > > > > > >> that > > > > > >>> it > > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > > struggle, > > > > > >>> see, > > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good > > (as > > > > > >>> per > > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > > prone > > > > > >> to > > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > > > how > > > > > >>> I > > > > > >>>> approach > > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak > > for > > > > > >> 6th > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > > > 6th > > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > > > as > > > > > >>> lord > > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > > house > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> most > > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > > > house > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > > > >> most > > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > > > >>> planet > > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > > sthan > > > > > >> for > > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > > > to > > > > > >>> death > > > > > >>>> of > > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > > > that > > > > > >>> is > > > > > >>>> our > > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > > house > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > > as " dushtana " > > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > > > 6th > > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > > > 1st, > > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > > > for > > > > > >>>> these house > > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled > > by > > > > > >>> them > > > > > >>>> get > > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also > > gets > > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > > perspective > > > > > >> how > > > > > >>> it > > > > > >>>> can be > > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > > > as > > > > > >>> good > > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> [@ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>> ] On > > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > > > is > > > > > >>> karak > > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. > > How > > > > > >> it > > > > > >>> can > > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. > > It > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> 6th > > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > > house. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > > Transit > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> for > > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > > > not > > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > > > then > > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > > > is > > > > > >>> going > > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > > meaning. > > > > > >> Sa > > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > > degree > > > > > >>> of > > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > > > look > > > > > >>> up > > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > > Kalprush > > > > > >>> chart > > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > > house > > > > > >>> is > > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > > 25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>>> his > > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > > >> Pisces > > > > > >>> as > > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > > > >> and > > > > > >>> for > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > >>> ca > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > > 25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > <%25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > > 25> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > <%25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > > contribute > > > > > >> in > > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > > please > > > > > >>> use > > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > > see. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > <%25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > <%25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25><% > > 25> > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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