Jupiter in the 3rd House (for Tarun and all)

[Guest guest]

Namaste Tarun,

 

I'm presenting a jyotish principle which everyone should consider

when analyzing a chart. This principle needs to be weighed in

consideration along with the other indicators in the chart. As such,

the assessment of the chart would be more indicative of the person's

life situation.

 

We need to use our own logic to ascertain how this maraka karaka

sthana (MKS) for Jupiter plays out. If Jupiter is weak, then its

aspect will not be as beneficial as well. However, one should check

the navamsha dispositor of Jupiter. If the dispositor is strong in

the navamsha, then it is highly certain that the MKS indicators will

take effect. If the dispositor is weak, then the MKS indicators may

be somewhat mitigated.

 

The planets that would do well in the third house would be:

 

1. Exalted planets;

 

2. Moolatrikona planets;

 

3. Planets in swakshetra;

 

4. Mars (promotes bravery and courage) and Venus (promotes artistic

abilities).

 

5. Rahu, because it is the opposite of its MKS position in the 9th

house.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Hello John,

>

> I am not asking for myself.

>

> I am asking the technical points which says guru is bad in 3rd

house

> and also that if 3rd house is house of sex, then which planet

should

> be placed in that house to get full results ?

>

> Apart from this, what will happen to tatkalik Maitri thing, and

also

> the 5/7/9 aspects of guru, by which it helps those aspected houses.

>

> I am aware of my chart, but i dont want others to always take 3rd

> house guru as bad.

>

> I hope you will understand my point.

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

>

>

> , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Tarun,

> >

> > It is best to see a real chart to determine how all of the

planets

> > are aligned for better evaluation. Can you post your birth data?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > John R.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello John, Bipul,

> > >

> > > so which planet is good in 3rd house ??? venus ???? or mars ??

> > >

> > > venus for male and mars for female ??

> > >

> > >

> > > i have jupiter in 3rd house.

> > > So i please to share some real technical points and enlighten

> this

> > > issue rather talking on SJC views.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > , " Bipul Pathak "

> > > > <bipul.pathak@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart

> where

> > > this

> > > > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The

> > > native

> > > > has

> > > > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know

> more

> > > from

> > > > learned

> > > > > people. I give details below

> > > > > DOB---23 Feb 1969

> > > > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India

> > > > > TOb---16:02 hrs.

> > > > > I have m,any details of his past with me

> > > > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then

> > > please

> > > > continue

> > > > > the thread.

> > > > > Reagrds,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To All:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a

marana

> > > karaka

> > > > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer

with

> > this

> > > > > > configuration.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a

> spiritual

> > > > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So,

> Jupiter

> > > is

> > > > out

> > > > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it

> > should.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > John R.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Bipul Pathak

> > > > > HEC MBA 2009

> > > > > Paris, France

> > > > > +33-1-39679231

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear John

 

I presume - that at no point - any sub rule can supercede basics.

 

Now Jupiter's strength as weak / strong is different issue than its benefic or

malefic nature. My question to you is that - does MKS makes jupiter malefic or

simply weak?

 

Tarun - I strongly believe that Jupiter's role must be decided by its lordship

for the houses (i.e. based upon lagna) and its natural relationship with lagna

lord. Yes- Jupiter in 3rd will do well - if benefic to the lagna as it will

aspect 7/9/11 houses (out of these three - it is natural significator for 9th

and 11th house.

 

Yes Jupiter has its deficiency for budha / venus governed ascendants. As Bhaskar

ji has pointed out - it is very important to focus on rasi and bhava chalit

chart - than doing fantacy jyotish around D charts. Mostly, we may even be

looking at wrong D charts for the variances amongst ayanamsa.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

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jr_esq

Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:52:29 -0000

 

Re: Jupiter in the 3rd House (for Tarun and all)

Namaste Tarun,

 

I'm presenting a jyotish principle which everyone should consider

when analyzing a chart. This principle needs to be weighed in

consideration along with the other indicators in the chart. As such,

the assessment of the chart would be more indicative of the person's

life situation.

 

We need to use our own logic to ascertain how this maraka karaka

sthana (MKS) for Jupiter plays out. If Jupiter is weak, then its

aspect will not be as beneficial as well. However, one should check

the navamsha dispositor of Jupiter. If the dispositor is strong in

the navamsha, then it is highly certain that the MKS indicators will

take effect. If the dispositor is weak, then the MKS indicators may

be somewhat mitigated.

 

The planets that would do well in the third house would be:

 

1. Exalted planets;

 

2. Moolatrikona planets;

 

3. Planets in swakshetra;

 

4. Mars (promotes bravery and courage) and Venus (promotes artistic

abilities).

 

5. Rahu, because it is the opposite of its MKS position in the 9th

house.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

, " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Hello John,

>

> I am not asking for myself.

>

> I am asking the technical points which says guru is bad in 3rd

house

> and also that if 3rd house is house of sex, then which planet

should

> be placed in that house to get full results ?

>

> Apart from this, what will happen to tatkalik Maitri thing, and

also

> the 5/7/9 aspects of guru, by which it helps those aspected houses.

>

> I am aware of my chart, but i dont want others to always take 3rd

> house guru as bad.

>

> I hope you will understand my point.

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

>

>

> , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Tarun,

> >

> > It is best to see a real chart to determine how all of the

planets

> > are aligned for better evaluation. Can you post your birth data?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > John R.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello John, Bipul,

> > >

> > > so which planet is good in 3rd house ??? venus ???? or mars ??

> > >

> > > venus for male and mars for female ??

> > >

> > >

> > > i have jupiter in 3rd house.

> > > So i please to share some real technical points and enlighten

> this

> > > issue rather talking on SJC views.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > , " Bipul Pathak "

> > > > <bipul.pathak@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart

> where

> > > this

> > > > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The

> > > native

> > > > has

> > > > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know

> more

> > > from

> > > > learned

> > > > > people. I give details below

> > > > > DOB---23 Feb 1969

> > > > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India

> > > > > TOb---16:02 hrs.

> > > > > I have m,any details of his past with me

> > > > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then

> > > please

> > > > continue

> > > > > the thread.

> > > > > Reagrds,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To All:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a

marana

> > > karaka

> > > > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer

with

> > this

> > > > > > configuration.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a

> spiritual

> > > > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So,

> Jupiter

> > > is

> > > > out

> > > > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it

> > should.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > John R.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Bipul Pathak

> > > > > HEC MBA 2009

> > > > > Paris, France

> > > > > +33-1-39679231

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >