Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 To All: Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this configuration. Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is out of his environment and would not function as well as it should. Regards, John R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 John Thank you for the post: this is a topic that interests me. Jupiter in H3 aspects its own house (9) - what might this imply? Also, the third is also the house of siblings, initiative, communication: would these areas not prosper? (Subject to other factors of course). And finally wouldn't a spiritual Brahmin (Ju) regulate desires (sex) (H3)? Maniv , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > To All: > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > configuration. > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is out > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > Regards, > > John R. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Hi all, This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native has started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from learned people. I give details below DOB---23 Feb 1969 POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India TOb---16:02 hrs. I have m,any details of his past with me If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please continue the thread. Reagrds, On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > To All: > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > configuration. > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is out > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > -- Bipul Pathak HEC MBA 2009 Paris, France +33-1-39679231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Hello, so which planet is good in 3rd house ??? venus ???? or mars ?? venus for male and mars for female ?? i have jupiter in 3rd house. Regards, Tarun , " Bipul Pathak " <bipul.pathak wrote: > > Hi all, > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native has > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from learned > people. I give details below > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > TOb---16:02 hrs. > I have m,any details of his past with me > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please continue > the thread. > Reagrds, > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > configuration. > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is out > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bipul Pathak > HEC MBA 2009 > Paris, France > +33-1-39679231 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Namaste Bipul, The chart shows the lagna to be Cancer with the Moon in the nakshatra of Krittika. The chart shows that the 9th house, the house of the father is afflicted. Specifically, Jupiter is retrograde, in conjunction with Ketu (a malific), and is in MKS status. It is likely that the father is suffering in one way or another. During the dasha of Jupiter, the father may have some health related issues. On another note (since it appears that you are living outside of India), I was in Paris about four years ago, and enjoyed the Luxembourg Gardens and the Louvre. Looking back at it now, I wish I knew how to speak French during my visit there. Regards, John R. , " Bipul Pathak " <bipul.pathak wrote: > > Hi all, > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native has > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from learned > people. I give details below > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > TOb---16:02 hrs. > I have m,any details of his past with me > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please continue > the thread. > Reagrds, > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > configuration. > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is out > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bipul Pathak > HEC MBA 2009 > Paris, France > +33-1-39679231 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Dear John, Yes there are health issues with the father of the native. But the real thing of interest is to interpret his Dasha of Jupiter which has just started in April 2007. How would Jupiter behave being in 3rd house. It is also of interest since the dahs is long. Yes Paris is freezing these days but the place has some different air about it surely. Regards, On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > Namaste Bipul, > > The chart shows the lagna to be Cancer with the Moon in the nakshatra > of Krittika. > > The chart shows that the 9th house, the house of the father is > afflicted. Specifically, Jupiter is retrograde, in conjunction with > Ketu (a malific), and is in MKS status. It is likely that the father > is suffering in one way or another. During the dasha of Jupiter, the > father may have some health related issues. > > On another note (since it appears that you are living outside of > India), I was in Paris about four years ago, and enjoyed the > Luxembourg Gardens and the Louvre. Looking back at it now, I wish I > knew how to speak French during my visit there. > > Regards, > > John R. > > <%40>, > " Bipul Pathak " > <bipul.pathak wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native > has > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from > learned > > people. I give details below > > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > > TOb---16:02 hrs. > > I have m,any details of his past with me > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please > continue > > the thread. > > Reagrds, > > > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > > configuration. > > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is > out > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bipul Pathak > > HEC MBA 2009 > > Paris, France > > +33-1-39679231 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Hello John, Bipul, so which planet is good in 3rd house ??? venus ???? or mars ?? venus for male and mars for female ?? i have jupiter in 3rd house. So i please to share some real technical points and enlighten this issue rather talking on SJC views. Regards, Tarun > , " Bipul Pathak " > <bipul.pathak@> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native > has > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from > learned > > people. I give details below > > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > > TOb---16:02 hrs. > > I have m,any details of his past with me > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please > continue > > the thread. > > Reagrds, > > > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > > configuration. > > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is > out > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bipul Pathak > > HEC MBA 2009 > > Paris, France > > +33-1-39679231 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Dear Bipul, If we consider only the results of Jupiter, then Jupiter would at begin of its mahadasha give journeys,short and long ones,probably a transfer, and start of a New Business/professional Career. If You confirm, then I can move onto the other inputs, or leave it, depending on Your reply. regards, Bhaskar. , " Bipul Pathak " <bipul.pathak wrote: > > Hi all, > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native has > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from learned > people. I give details below > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > TOb---16:02 hrs. > I have m,any details of his past with me > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please continue > the thread. > Reagrds, > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > configuration. > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is out > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bipul Pathak > HEC MBA 2009 > Paris, France > +33-1-39679231 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Namaste Tarun, It is best to see a real chart to determine how all of the planets are aligned for better evaluation. Can you post your birth data? Regards, John R. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > Hello John, Bipul, > > so which planet is good in 3rd house ??? venus ???? or mars ?? > > venus for male and mars for female ?? > > > i have jupiter in 3rd house. > So i please to share some real technical points and enlighten this > issue rather talking on SJC views. > > > Regards, > Tarun > > > , " Bipul Pathak " > > <bipul.pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where > this > > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The > native > > has > > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more > from > > learned > > > people. I give details below > > > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > > > TOb---16:02 hrs. > > > I have m,any details of his past with me > > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then > please > > continue > > > the thread. > > > Reagrds, > > > > > > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana > karaka > > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > > > configuration. > > > > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter > is > > out > > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Bipul Pathak > > > HEC MBA 2009 > > > Paris, France > > > +33-1-39679231 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dear Sh. Bhaskar, You are absolutely right. This is my own birth data...so I can share every nook and details with you but not on the forum. I had predicted 3 years ago to my wife that I will study aborad...when Jupiter starts..and it has happened. I also intend to change my profession post MBA.which is completing in Dec 2008. But now I find that my personal biases do come in when I want to predict for my own self....so have stopped looking at my own chart. This thread of Jupiter in 3rd house prompted me to post the data to understand new things from learned members. I actually want to know about my spiritual progress besides the career post Dec 2008. Regards, On 1/5/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Bipul, > > If we consider only the results of Jupiter, > then Jupiter would at begin of its mahadasha > give journeys,short and long ones,probably a transfer, > and start of a New Business/professional Career. > If You confirm, then I can move onto the other inputs, > or leave it, depending on Your reply. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > <%40>, > " Bipul Pathak " > <bipul.pathak wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native > has > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from > learned > > people. I give details below > > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > > TOb---16:02 hrs. > > I have m,any details of his past with me > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please > continue > > the thread. > > Reagrds, > > > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > > configuration. > > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is > out > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bipul Pathak > > HEC MBA 2009 > > Paris, France > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Hello John, I am not asking for myself. I am asking the technical points which says guru is bad in 3rd house and also that if 3rd house is house of sex, then which planet should be placed in that house to get full results ? Apart from this, what will happen to tatkalik Maitri thing, and also the 5/7/9 aspects of guru, by which it helps those aspected houses. I am aware of my chart, but i dont want others to always take 3rd house guru as bad. I hope you will understand my point. Warm Regards, Tarun , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > Namaste Tarun, > > It is best to see a real chart to determine how all of the planets > are aligned for better evaluation. Can you post your birth data? > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello John, Bipul, > > > > so which planet is good in 3rd house ??? venus ???? or mars ?? > > > > venus for male and mars for female ?? > > > > > > i have jupiter in 3rd house. > > So i please to share some real technical points and enlighten this > > issue rather talking on SJC views. > > > > > > Regards, > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bipul Pathak " > > > <bipul.pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where > > this > > > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The > > native > > > has > > > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more > > from > > > learned > > > > people. I give details below > > > > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > > > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > > > > TOb---16:02 hrs. > > > > I have m,any details of his past with me > > > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then > > please > > > continue > > > > the thread. > > > > Reagrds, > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana > > karaka > > > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with > this > > > > > configuration. > > > > > > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter > > is > > > out > > > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it > should. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bipul Pathak > > > > HEC MBA 2009 > > > > Paris, France > > > > +33-1-39679231 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dear Bipul, Spritual intentions can be read from the chart as this mean Satwik Progress , but to be spiritual is even away from the Satwik what to talk of Rajo and Tamo guna, so one can speak about the intentions only and the persons reaching out of three Gunas reach,is beyond the scope of Birth chart. Your chart shows such intentions at very great level, you are a person of knowledge and took birth to clear the Karmic debits which are mostly related to your family and profession Born in cancer ascendant with Navmasha lord in Pisces aspected by sign lord is the 1st indication. Lagna lord as well as Moon sign and Navmasha lord aspected by Jupiter. Sun and its Navmasha lord having similar connection. Supposing that you did not change the pattern in the present birth with your free will , then the Mars is the 1st hindrance, as 12th lord from asc is having strong Jupiter connection 12th from Moon is in his own sign in leo navmasha and 2nd Sun having no direct connection with Jupiter , only available through the depositor and Navmasha lord, though 12th from Sun is having aspect of Jupiter. That is why your statement that you could not decide about your chart, you may have to take a birth again for moving out of clutches of time. At any rate a human being is always free to work hard and free himself beyond the birth stars, so I will never say that you can not do this wonder in the same birth, a retrograde Jupiter show in above combinations that you may or may not take birth again. With Best wishes, Inder Jit Sahni On Behalf Of Bipul Pathak Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:34 AM Re: Re: Jupiter in the 3rd House Dear Sh. Bhaskar, You are absolutely right. This is my own birth data...so I can share every nook and details with you but not on the forum. I had predicted 3 years ago to my wife that I will study aborad...when Jupiter starts..and it has happened. I also intend to change my profession post MBA.which is completing in Dec 2008. But now I find that my personal biases do come in when I want to predict for my own self....so have stopped looking at my own chart. This thread of Jupiter in 3rd house prompted me to post the data to understand new things from learned members. I actually want to know about my spiritual progress besides the career post Dec 2008. Regards, On 1/5/08, Bhaskar <HYPERLINK " bhaskar_jyotish%40.co.in " bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Bipul, > > If we consider only the results of Jupiter, > then Jupiter would at begin of its mahadasha > give journeys,short and long ones,probably a transfer, > and start of a New Business/professional Career. > If You confirm, then I can move onto the other inputs, > or leave it, depending on Your reply. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > HYPERLINK " %40 " <%40>, > " Bipul Pathak " > <bipul.pathak wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > This thread is of interest to me as well. I have a chart where this > > configuration exists with many other factors built in. The native > has > > started the dasha of Jupiter as well. Would like to know more from > learned > > people. I give details below > > DOB---23 Feb 1969 > > POB--- 30E54, 75E51..I think Ludhiana, Punjab, India > > TOb---16:02 hrs. > > I have m,any details of his past with me > > If anyone is interested in discussion about Jupiter...then please > continue > > the thread. > > Reagrds, > > > > > > On 1/4/08, John <jr_esq wrote: > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > Jupiter is weak in the 3rd house because it is in a marana karaka > > > sthana (MKS). The houses owned by Jupiter will suffer with this > > > configuration. > > > > > > Why? Because Jupiter is a karaka for a brahmin and a spiritual > > > teacher. The 3rd house is a field of kama or sex. So, Jupiter is > out > > > of his environment and would not function as well as it should. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bipul Pathak > > HEC MBA 2009 > > Paris, France > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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