Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi Folks Here is the DOB as given in KN Rao-jis website. June 23, 1953, Karachi Pakistan. 16:30 is the time given. Impending danger is clearly predicted - congratulations to all involved. (Shri Manoj Pathak congrats). If you put 16:30 lagna moves from Libra to Scorpio (I am using JHora). So birth time appears to be 5 minutes earlier in order to give it a Libra lagna. Not sure if anybody tried this -just an observation. Ketu-Mer-Venus is the vimshottari (using 16:25:35 time). Venus -pratyardasha lord is eighth lord in seventh house showing the maraka period. In Dwisaptati sama dasa it is Saturn-Sun-Mars. Mars is second and seventh lord with maraka power. The chara dasha period with Ak in eighth from Aq, as given in the article is compelling to predict some sickness or body injury. Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Dear Friends Following data is used by all prominent Pakistani Astrologer as it was given to one of my Guru by her family sources. Birth Data Benazir BHUTTO Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' Amer Shah Pakistan , " M. Sharma " <nakshatras wrote: > > Hi Folks > > Here is the DOB as given in KN Rao-jis website. June 23, 1953, Karachi > Pakistan. 16:30 is the time given. Impending danger is clearly > predicted - congratulations to all involved. (Shri Manoj Pathak > congrats). > > If you put 16:30 lagna moves from Libra to Scorpio (I am using JHora). > So birth time appears to be 5 minutes earlier in order to give it a > Libra lagna. Not sure if anybody tried this -just an observation. > > Ketu-Mer-Venus is the vimshottari (using 16:25:35 time). Venus > -pratyardasha lord is eighth lord in seventh house showing the maraka > period. > > In Dwisaptati sama dasa it is Saturn-Sun-Mars. Mars is second and > seventh lord with maraka power. > > The chara dasha period with Ak in eighth from Aq, as given in the > article is compelling to predict some sickness or body injury. > > Manjunath Sharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Namaste Sri Amer If you follow this link http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=132, Sri K. N. Rao explains that he was given the birth data by Smt. Bhutto herself via Sri Natwar Singh. From the danger seen in the horoscope it appears that Sri K N Rao had the correct horoscope since Smt. Bhutto was assassinated today. I would also like members to express their views regarding the dual retrogression of Saturn and Mars and their relationship with the mundane events. Sri Amer can you shed light on the current situation in Pakistan. One security analyst from Europe suggested to me recently that Pakistan can face a civil war and that parts of Pakistan are now being governed by militants, especially the North Western Territory. Are there such fears present in Pakistan or was it a lopsided judgment from a European? Thanks and Regards Bharat On Dec 28, 2007 1:56 AM, Amer Abbas <farg135 wrote: > Dear Friends > > Following data is used by all prominent Pakistani Astrologer as it > was given to one of my Guru by her family sources. > > Birth Data > > Benazir BHUTTO > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00 > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03' > > Amer Shah > Pakistan > > <%40>, " M. > Sharma " <nakshatras > > wrote: > > > > Hi Folks > > > > Here is the DOB as given in KN Rao-jis website. June 23, 1953, > Karachi > > Pakistan. 16:30 is the time given. Impending danger is clearly > > predicted - congratulations to all involved. (Shri Manoj Pathak > > congrats). > > > > If you put 16:30 lagna moves from Libra to Scorpio (I am using > JHora). > > So birth time appears to be 5 minutes earlier in order to give it a > > Libra lagna. Not sure if anybody tried this -just an observation. > > > > Ketu-Mer-Venus is the vimshottari (using 16:25:35 time). Venus > > -pratyardasha lord is eighth lord in seventh house showing the > maraka > > period. > > > > In Dwisaptati sama dasa it is Saturn-Sun-Mars. Mars is second and > > seventh lord with maraka power. > > > > The chara dasha period with Ak in eighth from Aq, as given in the > > article is compelling to predict some sickness or body injury. > > > > Manjunath Sharma > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I, too, was shocked by today's news. My heart goes out to the people of Pakistan. She will be a true martyr. With all due respect to Shri. Rao and others who are using the June 23, birth date, I remember something that seems to support the June 21 date. There was an article in The Astrological Magazine by Cyrus Abkayoon (sp?). He discussed the horoscopes of Begum Nusrat Bhutto and Benazir Bhutto. He used the June 21 date and Dhanu lagna for Benazir Bhutto. He mentioned that Begum Bhutto had visited him in London. Chances are that the birth data given by a mother to an astrologer would be more accurate than that provided to the Foreign Minister of another country. --Radha S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Radha-ji Please give an explanation why Sg lagna and June 21 is correct if you can recollect. A quick comparison June 23 data with libra lagna 16:25). One can see Saturn in 12th house. One can see fifth lord in 12th house and the Harvard Education 1969 to 1973. Marriage in 1987 (Mer-Ketu). Mercury is Dara karaka. Mercury-Venus in Nov 1988 is when she became PM. Mercury is in 10th house. Venus in 7th house shows the pada prapti. Venus as eighth surely shows some controversy. Now see June 21 data (Sg lagna); Moon in Kanya. Rahu is in second, Venus is in 5th (sixth lord in fifth). Rahu-Venus during 1969 operates. One could predict technical education, some distraction is education and a possible love affair (failed). Jupiter - Mars in 1987. Marriage is possible in Mars bhukti. Jupiter -Rahu PM position in 1988. Not clear. The main point that Shri KN Rao is raising is very valid. With Mars, Sun in seventh house, add to this Mer (seventh lord) in eighth house with Ketu - how can she have a successful married life of 20 years? Without answering this I cannot accept the Sagi lagna chart. Manjunath Sharma , " aphoton47 " <aphoton wrote: > > I, too, was shocked by today's news. My heart goes out to the people > of Pakistan. She will be a true martyr. > > With all due respect to Shri. Rao and others who are using the June > 23, birth date, I remember something that seems to support the June 21 > date. There was an article in The Astrological Magazine by Cyrus > Abkayoon (sp?). He discussed the horoscopes of Begum Nusrat Bhutto > and Benazir Bhutto. He used the June 21 date and Dhanu lagna for > Benazir Bhutto. He mentioned that Begum Bhutto had visited him in > London. Chances are that the birth data given by a mother to an > astrologer would be more accurate than that provided to the Foreign > Minister of another country. > > --Radha S. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Manjunath, I do not know if the date and time (June 21) are correct. All I can say is that the source of the data, Mr. Cyrus T.F. Abayakoon, was a well-respected Sri Lankan astrologer; he gave this data in an article which appeared in the January 1986 issue of The Astrological Magazine. The article provides the horoscope and palm print of Begum Nusrat Bhutto and the time and horoscope particulars of Benazir Bhutto. The date of the assassination of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was Apr. 4, 1979. Benazir Bhutto wrote a book about her own life, Daughter of Destiny and you can check the events of her life from this book. The mere presence of Saturn ruler of the fifth house in the 12th house cannot explain her foreign education. Saturn remains in one sign for two and a half years. There must have been thousands of charts with Libra lagna and Saturn in the twelfth during those two and a half years. Could they all have had a foreign education? With the June 21 data, the foreign education was in the dasa of Rahu (1969-1973). Rahu in the second house can take you away from the family. If we take the June 21 date, the Moon is the darakaraka and is placed in Libra. Marriage took place in Jupiter/Mars and Chara dasa of Taurus/Aquarius. Aquarius is seventh from dara pada and aspected by dara karaka. Mars is in the seventh house. One would have to study the navamsa, saptamsa, strength of Venus to determine the success of the marriage. We have no personal knowledge about the quality of a famous person's marriage. At best, we have dated events. (Here is a chart of a person who did have a foreign education. She does not have the lord of the fifth in the 12th. Taurus lagna with Saturn in Virgo. Mercury in Leo with Venus and Ketu. No other planet aspects Mercury. Saturn is aspected by Jupiter from the 11th house. The foreign education occurred in Rahu mahadasa.) I agree with Shri Rao, that it is very difficult to verify the charts of celebrities and political figures. Not only is the data often inaccurate, but without the personal aquaintance with the celebrity, you have no way of judging the validity of some of the combinations. Best wishes, --Radha S. All data from Wikipedia With the June 23 date, Moon was in Libra and darakaraka. , " M. Sharma " <nakshatras wrote: > > Radha-ji > Please give an explanation why Sg lagna and June 21 is correct if you > can recollect. > > A quick comparison > > June 23 data with libra lagna 16:25). One can see Saturn in 12th > house. One can see fifth lord in 12th house and the Harvard Education > 1969 to 1973. Marriage in 1987 (Mer-Ketu). Mercury is Dara karaka. > Mercury-Venus in Nov 1988 is when she became PM. Mercury is in 10th > house. Venus in 7th house shows the pada prapti. Venus as eighth > surely shows some controversy. > > Now see June 21 data (Sg lagna); Moon in Kanya. > Rahu is in second, Venus is in 5th (sixth lord in fifth). Rahu-Venus > during 1969 operates. One could predict technical education, some > distraction is education and a possible love affair (failed). > > Jupiter - Mars in 1987. Marriage is possible in Mars bhukti. > Jupiter -Rahu PM position in 1988. Not clear. > > The main point that Shri KN Rao is raising is very valid. With Mars, > Sun in seventh house, add to this Mer (seventh lord) in eighth house > with Ketu - how can she have a successful married life of 20 years? > Without answering this I cannot accept the Sagi lagna chart. > > > Manjunath Sharma , " aphoton47 " <aphoton@> wrote: > > > > I, too, was shocked by today's news. My heart goes out to the people > > of Pakistan. She will be a true martyr. > > > > With all due respect to Shri. Rao and others who are using the June > > 23, birth date, I remember something that seems to support the June 21 > > date. There was an article in The Astrological Magazine by Cyrus > > Abkayoon (sp?). He discussed the horoscopes of Begum Nusrat Bhutto > > and Benazir Bhutto. He used the June 21 date and Dhanu lagna for > > Benazir Bhutto. He mentioned that Begum Bhutto had visited him in > > London. Chances are that the birth data given by a mother to an > > astrologer would be more accurate than that provided to the Foreign > > Minister of another country. > > > > --Radha S. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Mrmbers B V Raman had analysed her chart several times with Dhanur Lagna so if anyone can get that data and discuss will help she has all the facial feature of a dhanur, so is Madhuri dixit, shabna Azmi. Best wishes On 12/28/07, M. Sharma <nakshatras wrote: > > Hi Folks > > Here is the DOB as given in KN Rao-jis website. June 23, 1953, Karachi > Pakistan. 16:30 is the time given. Impending danger is clearly > predicted - congratulations to all involved. (Shri Manoj Pathak > congrats). > > If you put 16:30 lagna moves from Libra to Scorpio (I am using JHora). > So birth time appears to be 5 minutes earlier in order to give it a > Libra lagna. Not sure if anybody tried this -just an observation. > > Ketu-Mer-Venus is the vimshottari (using 16:25:35 time). Venus > -pratyardasha lord is eighth lord in seventh house showing the maraka > period. > > In Dwisaptati sama dasa it is Saturn-Sun-Mars. Mars is second and > seventh lord with maraka power. > > The chara dasha period with Ak in eighth from Aq, as given in the > article is compelling to predict some sickness or body injury. > > Manjunath Sharma > > > -- Thank you, Prashantkumar -------- For Consultation charges please write to me -------- G B Prashant Kumar `Gyandeep' 4, Fifth street Nandanam Extn, Chennai 600035, INDIA MOBILE 9840051861 TEL 42110983/24340186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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