Ascendant and Congeniality : Please comment

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

I am curious to understand the relationship between the ascendents

and the interpersonal relationships. I distinctly remember that my

cousin born in " simha lagnam " being considered as unlucky since she

will *be* aggressive (not by astrologers but regular elder folks).

 

I learned recently that interpersonal relations depend to certain

extent on the relationship between ascendant lords. That is,for

example, the Cancer ascendants are liked by Sagittarius and Pisces

ascendants since Jupiter will be exalted in Cancer. Similarly,

Taurus ascendants will be liked by Cancer ascendants, as Moon gets

exalted in Taurus. Since there are 9 planets and 12 signs, there are

3 signs which aren't exaltation signs of any planet; Leo (Simha),

Scorpio (Vrischika), Aquarius (Kumbha). Therefore, natives with

these ascendants aren't generally liked (though it is not a fault of

the natives themselves).

 

However, I have no real world experience (i.e. in practising

astrology) and would like to solicit the opinions of experts here on

how true is this relationship between the exaltation sign and

lordship sign ascendants.

 

Looking into the discussions on this forum, I am aware that a single

facet of the birth chart does not define a complete human being.

However, outside the immediate family, others would not know a

person completely or well enough. I would like to hear what

influence does the ascendant play on the first impression and

associations. In particular, in contrast to the Arudha Lagna, which

is supposed to show the image of a person in public.

 

Am I missing something in trying to understand what effects the

first impressions and interpersonal relationships?

 

Please comment.

 

Best Regards,

SK

[Guest guest]

Dear Friend,

 

Only the foolish would consider the " Simha Lagnam "

as unlucky. The Sun is the Lord of all planets,

and holds status of the Father, the Self, the Parmatam.

Even the Moon cannot sustain without borrowing

light from the Sun. How can one say that this

Lagnam is unlucky ?

I would go a step forward and say, that tobe born

under sign of the Sun , is a privilege and the

person would be born " preferred " .

The general habits of the world is to only

be attracted towards the negativity, but the

wise would see the positives, which are many, in

Leo Ascendant. Aggression may not be there in the

native if the Ascendant is not afflicted by Mars or

any other cruel planet. On the contrary a good Sun

would make a person Royal, and yet humble and

dignified like Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

 

Interpersonal Relationships through the signs in

a chart, can be used effectively by a smart

astrologer, or one who has knowledge about his own

chart. One should look for contacts-friends who

have their ascendants falling in our 11th sign. This

would be profitable friendship. One should avoid

people who have ascendants appearing as signs

in our 8th or 12th house. For example if one moves

out with a friend whose ascendant appears as

12th sign in our charts, then we would

be doing the spenmding part, most

of the time, and the friend would

be enjoying at our cost.

This can be translated in

when looking for marriage and business partners

too. When making friends with opposite

sex and seeking love, if the ascendants appear

in 5th sign of our chart, then some affections

can be sought for succesfully. While Keeping staff

or servants in office, while making business tie-ups,

joint ventures, etcetra, these matters do count,

whether one realises or not. Same story is with planets.

One having for instance a Leo ascendant, if he makes

friendship-relationship-partnership with a Capricorn

or Aquarius ascendant, then

it would not last long, and may prove didsastrous too

in future, for The Sun and Saturn are arch enemies.

If he makes friends with a Cancer ascendant then this

is bound to bring in tears sooner or later, as 12th

Lord for Leo, Moon would only prove to be seperative

and not bring them closer for a meaningful relationship,

be it business, personal or marital.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " a_violet_in_twilight "

<a_violet_in_twilight wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> I am curious to understand the relationship between the ascendents

> and the interpersonal relationships. I distinctly remember that my

> cousin born in " simha lagnam " being considered as unlucky since she

> will *be* aggressive (not by astrologers but regular elder folks).

>

> I learned recently that interpersonal relations depend to certain

> extent on the relationship between ascendant lords. That is,for

> example, the Cancer ascendants are liked by Sagittarius and Pisces

> ascendants since Jupiter will be exalted in Cancer. Similarly,

> Taurus ascendants will be liked by Cancer ascendants, as Moon gets

> exalted in Taurus. Since there are 9 planets and 12 signs, there

are

> 3 signs which aren't exaltation signs of any planet; Leo (Simha),

> Scorpio (Vrischika), Aquarius (Kumbha). Therefore, natives with

> these ascendants aren't generally liked (though it is not a fault

of

> the natives themselves).

>

> However, I have no real world experience (i.e. in practising

> astrology) and would like to solicit the opinions of experts here

on

> how true is this relationship between the exaltation sign and

> lordship sign ascendants.

>

> Looking into the discussions on this forum, I am aware that a

single

> facet of the birth chart does not define a complete human being.

> However, outside the immediate family, others would not know a

> person completely or well enough. I would like to hear what

> influence does the ascendant play on the first impression and

> associations. In particular, in contrast to the Arudha Lagna, which

> is supposed to show the image of a person in public.

>

> Am I missing something in trying to understand what effects the

> first impressions and interpersonal relationships?

>

> Please comment.

>

> Best Regards,

> SK

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Bhaskar,

 

I support what you have mentioned here.

 

I just add a scenario here.

 

One with heavy Saturnian influence in his own horoscope, is

typically attracted to (and also attracts) others with heavy

Saturnian influence (I am not even giving here importance to Lagna).

THis is because Saturn has some specific qualities such as tendency

to service to humanity, mass/public oriented thinking, service to

elder or old people, sticking to old traditions etc. Two Saturn-

influenced people have the same/similar attitude towards life.

 

The importance I am giving here is the most influencing planet in a

horoscope, because it is this planet which shapes the individual at

some point of time in life, no matter whatever be the lagna. Though

Lagna will impart the basic qualities in the individual, the heavy-

influencing planet will bring out a lot of common likes and dislikes

in both the persons, getting them attracted to each other.

 

I have seen this concept working more than anything that is

generalized.

 

Note:

Saturn influencing means - either being positioned in the lagna, or

aspecting the lagna, or in the navamsa lagna, or influencing the

lagna lord, or indlucing the 5th lord (of intelligence), or

influencing the Moon etc.

 

When I say heavy influence, I mean more of these patterns pronounced

(than just one or two) in Rasi chart, as well as Navamsa chart; or

even in other divisional chart. In addition, if Saturn is in a

Kendra equivalent to own or exaltation point, then he forms the Sasa

Maha purusha yoga also. THese are the points to consider heavy

influence. Unfortunately most people look at Saturn as Afflicting

planet only, but forget the so much of positive influence that a

heavy influencing Saturn brings in the life of the native. In such a

case, the basic qualities of specific lagna and its lord are heavily

modified by Saturn or any planet for that matter.

 

I gave the example for Saturn. Now you can apply the rule for any

other planet.

 

Regards,

Satya S Kolachina

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

>

> Only the foolish would consider the " Simha Lagnam "

> as unlucky. The Sun is the Lord of all planets,

> and holds status of the Father, the Self, the Parmatam.

> Even the Moon cannot sustain without borrowing

> light from the Sun. How can one say that this

> Lagnam is unlucky ?

> I would go a step forward and say, that tobe born

> under sign of the Sun , is a privilege and the

> person would be born " preferred " .

> The general habits of the world is to only

> be attracted towards the negativity, but the

> wise would see the positives, which are many, in

> Leo Ascendant. Aggression may not be there in the

> native if the Ascendant is not afflicted by Mars or

> any other cruel planet. On the contrary a good Sun

> would make a person Royal, and yet humble and

> dignified like Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

>

> Interpersonal Relationships through the signs in

> a chart, can be used effectively by a smart

> astrologer, or one who has knowledge about his own

> chart. One should look for contacts-friends who

> have their ascendants falling in our 11th sign. This

> would be profitable friendship. One should avoid

> people who have ascendants appearing as signs

> in our 8th or 12th house. For example if one moves

> out with a friend whose ascendant appears as

> 12th sign in our charts, then we would

> be doing the spenmding part, most

> of the time, and the friend would

> be enjoying at our cost.

> This can be translated in

> when looking for marriage and business partners

> too. When making friends with opposite

> sex and seeking love, if the ascendants appear

> in 5th sign of our chart, then some affections

> can be sought for succesfully. While Keeping staff

> or servants in office, while making business tie-ups,

> joint ventures, etcetra, these matters do count,

> whether one realises or not. Same story is with planets.

> One having for instance a Leo ascendant, if he makes

> friendship-relationship-partnership with a Capricorn

> or Aquarius ascendant, then

> it would not last long, and may prove didsastrous too

> in future, for The Sun and Saturn are arch enemies.

> If he makes friends with a Cancer ascendant then this

> is bound to bring in tears sooner or later, as 12th

> Lord for Leo, Moon would only prove to be seperative

> and not bring them closer for a meaningful relationship,

> be it business, personal or marital.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

, " a_violet_in_twilight "

> <a_violet_in_twilight@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > I am curious to understand the relationship between the

ascendents

> > and the interpersonal relationships. I distinctly remember that

my

> > cousin born in " simha lagnam " being considered as unlucky since

she

> > will *be* aggressive (not by astrologers but regular elder

folks).

> >

> > I learned recently that interpersonal relations depend to

certain

> > extent on the relationship between ascendant lords. That is,for

> > example, the Cancer ascendants are liked by Sagittarius and

Pisces

> > ascendants since Jupiter will be exalted in Cancer. Similarly,

> > Taurus ascendants will be liked by Cancer ascendants, as Moon

gets

> > exalted in Taurus. Since there are 9 planets and 12 signs, there

> are

> > 3 signs which aren't exaltation signs of any planet; Leo

(Simha),

> > Scorpio (Vrischika), Aquarius (Kumbha). Therefore, natives with

> > these ascendants aren't generally liked (though it is not a

fault

> of

> > the natives themselves).

> >

> > However, I have no real world experience (i.e. in practising

> > astrology) and would like to solicit the opinions of experts

here

> on

> > how true is this relationship between the exaltation sign and

> > lordship sign ascendants.

> >

> > Looking into the discussions on this forum, I am aware that a

> single

> > facet of the birth chart does not define a complete human being.

> > However, outside the immediate family, others would not know a

> > person completely or well enough. I would like to hear what

> > influence does the ascendant play on the first impression and

> > associations. In particular, in contrast to the Arudha Lagna,

which

> > is supposed to show the image of a person in public.

> >

> > Am I missing something in trying to understand what effects the

> > first impressions and interpersonal relationships?

> >

> > Please comment.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > SK

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Bhaskar and Sri Satya S Kolachina,

 

Thank you for your responses.

 

I understand that " Simha Lagnam " by itself is not unlucky. However, I

might have been in an environment were everything connected to a

female child could be considered as unlucky.

 

From what I understood with Sri Bhaskar's response, if we take the

lagna lord and take away ascendants whose lagna lords are enemies and

ascendants which fall on unfavourable houses the given ascendant, we

should have the persons that does not have affinity to the native.

For example, taking the Simha lagna example, Cancer, Pisces will be

detrimental falling in 12th and 8th houses. Similarly, natural

enemies Venus and Saturn would exclude Taurus,Libra, Capricorn and

Aquarius. Is this a correct deduction?

 

However, though some ascendants are disastrous to people that doesn't

stop them from being attracted/showing affinity to them. For example,

Cancer ascendants may not be good for Sagittarius ascendants (being

8th house), but still they could feel affinity since Jupiter will be

exalted in Cancer (and moon being a friend of Jupiter).

 

 

I see the point in what Sri Satya S Kolachina, has written. And this

is amazingly true with my personal experience. A planet exalted (or

own sign) in kendra, in Arudha lagna, as Atma Karaka, with digbala

could make the person as an " archetype " of that planet (and not

necessarily in a bad way). A 'Saturn' person I know is very

conservative, very traditional, hard-working, does not hesitate to

do " menial " (= hands-on) work, almost like hermite and so on though

his lagna lord is Venus. A planet in ascendant could also modify the

characteristics of a person.

 

However, I would like to look into a general case when a single

planetary trait (or even a combination of two) is not so obvious. I

suppose it is not only a matter of feeling affinity with disastrous

results, (such as, Aquarius and Capricorn feeling affinity due to

Saturn, but it may result in expenses to Aquarius)but also a flip

side to this and feeling sudden antipathy for people who are

beneficial to us (such as, Sagittarius may not like Libra ascendants

though it is 11th house of gains, or Virgo in case of Cancer).

 

To summarize,

 

1) Affinity is felt towards people with similar ascendants or whose

lagna lords are friends towards our lagna lord.

 

2) Affinity is also felt towards ascendants which are friends to the

dominant planet in a birth chart.

 

3) The affinity may or may not be beneficial

 

I think an additional points are

 

a) Is affinity present towards ascendants where a lagna lord is

exalted? That is, Venus is neutral to Jupiter.So, Taurus and Libra

ascendants may feel neutral towards Sagittarius, but still feel

attracted to Pisces.

 

b) What are comparable points in a birth chart (Perhaps, Moon sign?,

Atma Karaka, Strong Kendra?, Arudha Lagna? anything else?)that

influences an affinity towards virtual strangers, other than

Ascendant?

(Sri Satya S Kolachina mentioned dominant planet as a point

overriding ascendant)

 

I appreciate your comments so far. Please provide some more insight

into this issue.

 

Best Regards,

SK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Satya Sai Kolachina "

<skolachi wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Bhaskar,

>

> I support what you have mentioned here.

>

> I just add a scenario here.

>

> One with heavy Saturnian influence in his own horoscope, is

> typically attracted to (and also attracts) others with heavy

> Saturnian influence (I am not even giving here importance to

Lagna).

> THis is because Saturn has some specific qualities such as tendency

> to service to humanity, mass/public oriented thinking, service to

> elder or old people, sticking to old traditions etc. Two Saturn-

> influenced people have the same/similar attitude towards life.

>

> The importance I am giving here is the most influencing planet in a

> horoscope, because it is this planet which shapes the individual at

> some point of time in life, no matter whatever be the lagna. Though

> Lagna will impart the basic qualities in the individual, the heavy-

> influencing planet will bring out a lot of common likes and

dislikes

> in both the persons, getting them attracted to each other.

>

> I have seen this concept working more than anything that is

> generalized.

>

> Note:

> Saturn influencing means - either being positioned in the lagna, or

> aspecting the lagna, or in the navamsa lagna, or influencing the

> lagna lord, or indlucing the 5th lord (of intelligence), or

> influencing the Moon etc.

>

> When I say heavy influence, I mean more of these patterns

pronounced

> (than just one or two) in Rasi chart, as well as Navamsa chart; or

> even in other divisional chart. In addition, if Saturn is in a

> Kendra equivalent to own or exaltation point, then he forms the

Sasa

> Maha purusha yoga also. THese are the points to consider heavy

> influence. Unfortunately most people look at Saturn as Afflicting

> planet only, but forget the so much of positive influence that a

> heavy influencing Saturn brings in the life of the native. In such

a

> case, the basic qualities of specific lagna and its lord are

heavily

> modified by Saturn or any planet for that matter.

>

> I gave the example for Saturn. Now you can apply the rule for any

> other planet.

>

> Regards,

> Satya S Kolachina

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friend,

> >

> > Only the foolish would consider the " Simha Lagnam "

> > as unlucky. The Sun is the Lord of all planets,

> > and holds status of the Father, the Self, the Parmatam.

> > Even the Moon cannot sustain without borrowing

> > light from the Sun. How can one say that this

> > Lagnam is unlucky ?

> > I would go a step forward and say, that tobe born

> > under sign of the Sun , is a privilege and the

> > person would be born " preferred " .

> > The general habits of the world is to only

> > be attracted towards the negativity, but the

> > wise would see the positives, which are many, in

> > Leo Ascendant. Aggression may not be there in the

> > native if the Ascendant is not afflicted by Mars or

> > any other cruel planet. On the contrary a good Sun

> > would make a person Royal, and yet humble and

> > dignified like Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

> >

> > Interpersonal Relationships through the signs in

> > a chart, can be used effectively by a smart

> > astrologer, or one who has knowledge about his own

> > chart. One should look for contacts-friends who

> > have their ascendants falling in our 11th sign. This

> > would be profitable friendship. One should avoid

> > people who have ascendants appearing as signs

> > in our 8th or 12th house. For example if one moves

> > out with a friend whose ascendant appears as

> > 12th sign in our charts, then we would

> > be doing the spenmding part, most

> > of the time, and the friend would

> > be enjoying at our cost.

> > This can be translated in

> > when looking for marriage and business partners

> > too. When making friends with opposite

> > sex and seeking love, if the ascendants appear

> > in 5th sign of our chart, then some affections

> > can be sought for succesfully. While Keeping staff

> > or servants in office, while making business tie-ups,

> > joint ventures, etcetra, these matters do count,

> > whether one realises or not. Same story is with planets.

> > One having for instance a Leo ascendant, if he makes

> > friendship-relationship-partnership with a Capricorn

> > or Aquarius ascendant, then

> > it would not last long, and may prove didsastrous too

> > in future, for The Sun and Saturn are arch enemies.

> > If he makes friends with a Cancer ascendant then this

> > is bound to bring in tears sooner or later, as 12th

> > Lord for Leo, Moon would only prove to be seperative

> > and not bring them closer for a meaningful relationship,

> > be it business, personal or marital.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " a_violet_in_twilight "

> > <a_violet_in_twilight@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > I am curious to understand the relationship between the

> ascendents

> > > and the interpersonal relationships. I distinctly remember that

> my

> > > cousin born in " simha lagnam " being considered as unlucky since

> she

> > > will *be* aggressive (not by astrologers but regular elder

> folks).

> > >

> > > I learned recently that interpersonal relations depend to

> certain

> > > extent on the relationship between ascendant lords. That is,for

> > > example, the Cancer ascendants are liked by Sagittarius and

> Pisces

> > > ascendants since Jupiter will be exalted in Cancer. Similarly,

> > > Taurus ascendants will be liked by Cancer ascendants, as Moon

> gets

> > > exalted in Taurus. Since there are 9 planets and 12 signs,

there

> > are

> > > 3 signs which aren't exaltation signs of any planet; Leo

> (Simha),

> > > Scorpio (Vrischika), Aquarius (Kumbha). Therefore, natives with

> > > these ascendants aren't generally liked (though it is not a

> fault

> > of

> > > the natives themselves).

> > >

> > > However, I have no real world experience (i.e. in practising

> > > astrology) and would like to solicit the opinions of experts

> here

> > on

> > > how true is this relationship between the exaltation sign and

> > > lordship sign ascendants.

> > >

> > > Looking into the discussions on this forum, I am aware that a

> > single

> > > facet of the birth chart does not define a complete human

being.

> > > However, outside the immediate family, others would not know a

> > > person completely or well enough. I would like to hear what

> > > influence does the ascendant play on the first impression and

> > > associations. In particular, in contrast to the Arudha Lagna,

> which

> > > is supposed to show the image of a person in public.

> > >

> > > Am I missing something in trying to understand what effects the

> > > first impressions and interpersonal relationships?

> > >

> > > Please comment.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > > SK

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Satyaji,

 

What you have mentioned is perfect for delineation

of the working and living style ,and tastes of

the native which would be influenced by the most

prominent or Elevated planet or planets in the

Horoscope, where the Lagna would take a back seat,

or in some other case. the planets influencing

the Lagna itself would become the base on which the

natives nature would rest upon, and not the Lagna.

A Sagittarius native normally known to be very

active and adventurous, when has Saturn seated in

the Lagna, the actioveness would vanish and instaed

laziness and letharginess and slowness would manifest.

Or in other cases, the planets placed on the 10th Cusp

would form the pillars for choosing profession

as well as behaviours in native. The above would

be based on individual charts and vary, which is why

no 2 individuals are alike. Or if the Lagna itself

is strong then the native would partake of the common

traits of the Lagna itself.

 

What I was talking in previous mail was

in general, about relationships between

seperate ascendants via taking one ascendant

Sign as a base, but in general, that is

without taking influences on a Lagna.

 

Your mail was enlightening as it highlighted

another issue which could make a vast difference,

for example a Leo native would still be Saturnian

in behaviour considering weakness, strength, and

other attributes of various planets.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " Satya Sai Kolachina "

<skolachi wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Bhaskar,

>

> I support what you have mentioned here.

>

> I just add a scenario here.

>

> One with heavy Saturnian influence in his own horoscope, is

> typically attracted to (and also attracts) others with heavy

> Saturnian influence (I am not even giving here importance to

Lagna).

> THis is because Saturn has some specific qualities such as tendency

> to service to humanity, mass/public oriented thinking, service to

> elder or old people, sticking to old traditions etc. Two Saturn-

> influenced people have the same/similar attitude towards life.

>

> The importance I am giving here is the most influencing planet in a

> horoscope, because it is this planet which shapes the individual at

> some point of time in life, no matter whatever be the lagna. Though

> Lagna will impart the basic qualities in the individual, the heavy-

> influencing planet will bring out a lot of common likes and

dislikes

> in both the persons, getting them attracted to each other.

>

> I have seen this concept working more than anything that is

> generalized.

>

> Note:

> Saturn influencing means - either being positioned in the lagna, or

> aspecting the lagna, or in the navamsa lagna, or influencing the

> lagna lord, or indlucing the 5th lord (of intelligence), or

> influencing the Moon etc.

>

> When I say heavy influence, I mean more of these patterns

pronounced

> (than just one or two) in Rasi chart, as well as Navamsa chart; or

> even in other divisional chart. In addition, if Saturn is in a

> Kendra equivalent to own or exaltation point, then he forms the

Sasa

> Maha purusha yoga also. THese are the points to consider heavy

> influence. Unfortunately most people look at Saturn as Afflicting

> planet only, but forget the so much of positive influence that a

> heavy influencing Saturn brings in the life of the native. In such

a

> case, the basic qualities of specific lagna and its lord are

heavily

> modified by Saturn or any planet for that matter.

>

> I gave the example for Saturn. Now you can apply the rule for any

> other planet.

>

> Regards,

> Satya S Kolachina

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friend,

> >

> > Only the foolish would consider the " Simha Lagnam "

> > as unlucky. The Sun is the Lord of all planets,

> > and holds status of the Father, the Self, the Parmatam.

> > Even the Moon cannot sustain without borrowing

> > light from the Sun. How can one say that this

> > Lagnam is unlucky ?

> > I would go a step forward and say, that tobe born

> > under sign of the Sun , is a privilege and the

> > person would be born " preferred " .

> > The general habits of the world is to only

> > be attracted towards the negativity, but the

> > wise would see the positives, which are many, in

> > Leo Ascendant. Aggression may not be there in the

> > native if the Ascendant is not afflicted by Mars or

> > any other cruel planet. On the contrary a good Sun

> > would make a person Royal, and yet humble and

> > dignified like Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

> >

> > Interpersonal Relationships through the signs in

> > a chart, can be used effectively by a smart

> > astrologer, or one who has knowledge about his own

> > chart. One should look for contacts-friends who

> > have their ascendants falling in our 11th sign. This

> > would be profitable friendship. One should avoid

> > people who have ascendants appearing as signs

> > in our 8th or 12th house. For example if one moves

> > out with a friend whose ascendant appears as

> > 12th sign in our charts, then we would

> > be doing the spenmding part, most

> > of the time, and the friend would

> > be enjoying at our cost.

> > This can be translated in

> > when looking for marriage and business partners

> > too. When making friends with opposite

> > sex and seeking love, if the ascendants appear

> > in 5th sign of our chart, then some affections

> > can be sought for succesfully. While Keeping staff

> > or servants in office, while making business tie-ups,

> > joint ventures, etcetra, these matters do count,

> > whether one realises or not. Same story is with planets.

> > One having for instance a Leo ascendant, if he makes

> > friendship-relationship-partnership with a Capricorn

> > or Aquarius ascendant, then

> > it would not last long, and may prove didsastrous too

> > in future, for The Sun and Saturn are arch enemies.

> > If he makes friends with a Cancer ascendant then this

> > is bound to bring in tears sooner or later, as 12th

> > Lord for Leo, Moon would only prove to be seperative

> > and not bring them closer for a meaningful relationship,

> > be it business, personal or marital.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " a_violet_in_twilight "

> > <a_violet_in_twilight@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > I am curious to understand the relationship between the

> ascendents

> > > and the interpersonal relationships. I distinctly remember that

> my

> > > cousin born in " simha lagnam " being considered as unlucky since

> she

> > > will *be* aggressive (not by astrologers but regular elder

> folks).

> > >

> > > I learned recently that interpersonal relations depend to

> certain

> > > extent on the relationship between ascendant lords. That is,for

> > > example, the Cancer ascendants are liked by Sagittarius and

> Pisces

> > > ascendants since Jupiter will be exalted in Cancer. Similarly,

> > > Taurus ascendants will be liked by Cancer ascendants, as Moon

> gets

> > > exalted in Taurus. Since there are 9 planets and 12 signs,

there

> > are

> > > 3 signs which aren't exaltation signs of any planet; Leo

> (Simha),

> > > Scorpio (Vrischika), Aquarius (Kumbha). Therefore, natives with

> > > these ascendants aren't generally liked (though it is not a

> fault

> > of

> > > the natives themselves).

> > >

> > > However, I have no real world experience (i.e. in practising

> > > astrology) and would like to solicit the opinions of experts

> here

> > on

> > > how true is this relationship between the exaltation sign and

> > > lordship sign ascendants.

> > >

> > > Looking into the discussions on this forum, I am aware that a

> > single

> > > facet of the birth chart does not define a complete human

being.

> > > However, outside the immediate family, others would not know a

> > > person completely or well enough. I would like to hear what

> > > influence does the ascendant play on the first impression and

> > > associations. In particular, in contrast to the Arudha Lagna,

> which

> > > is supposed to show the image of a person in public.

> > >

> > > Am I missing something in trying to understand what effects the

> > > first impressions and interpersonal relationships?

> > >

> > > Please comment.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > > SK

> > >

> >

>