Bhaskar Ji and other Elders - A Complicated Case !!

[Guest guest]

Namaskaar,

 

Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed case -

 

1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at rewa, mp.

 

I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I have lots of

queries.

 

regards,

Lalit.

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalitji,

 

I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

because one has to minus the correction

of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

as logitude is less than 82.30

 

Secondly one should not check longevity of any

person unless necessary for some cause

like marriage matching or Disease etc.

 

But we will do it here if you request, but

without going by rules of the book.

(Which I will mention some other time).

We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

 

Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

seated in Lagna.

The 9th house is

aspected by its own Lord

Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

 

In Chandra Lagna again the

Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

makes the Bhagya prabal.

(The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

 

Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

own sign Virgo.

 

Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

not a good sign as, Guru Lord

of 6th.

 

It seems that this native has spent more time

visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

last many years, in all departments, unless

if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

 

If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

would become normal for him.

 

Longevity - Medium.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Namaskaar,

>

> Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed case -

>

> 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at rewa,

mp.

>

> I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I have lots

of

> queries.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar Ji,

 

He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of weight and

6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he was

doing good in student politics.

 

He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm, last

week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons and

what type of people killed him.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> because one has to minus the correction

> of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> as logitude is less than 82.30

>

> Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> person unless necessary for some cause

> like marriage matching or Disease etc.

>

> But we will do it here if you request, but

> without going by rules of the book.

> (Which I will mention some other time).

> We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

>

> Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> seated in Lagna.

> The 9th house is

> aspected by its own Lord

> Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

>

> In Chandra Lagna again the

> Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> makes the Bhagya prabal.

> (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

>

> Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> own sign Virgo.

>

> Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> of 6th.

>

> It seems that this native has spent more time

> visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> last many years, in all departments, unless

> if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

>

> If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> would become normal for him.

>

> Longevity - Medium.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

, " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar,

> >

> > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed

case -

> >

> > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at rewa,

> mp.

> >

> > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I have

lots

> of

> > queries.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalitji,

 

Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

uttered anything worse, thankfully.

 

There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

enmity and allegations, so murder may not

be shocking news for me.

 

But I did not expect you to give me a dead

mans chart, already knowing so.

 

He is currently running badhakasthana

Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

Lord kills when the time comes and if

connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

which many people seem to miss, and so is

Rahu. These two angles are very important

and the major incidents in a mans Life

revolve around these 2 Pivots.

 

Thank you for sharing the information.

I reluctantly did this chart because I use

the Forums only for relaxation , as a

Rest room or sharing experiences. The

other times I am engrossed in reading

charts professionally, therefore I come

here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

take up chart readings on Forums among other

reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

to night.

 

Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

and some people go away before becoming ripe.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar Ji,

>

> He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of weight

and

> 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he was

> doing good in student politics.

>

> He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm, last

> week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons and

> what type of people killed him.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > because one has to minus the correction

> > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > as logitude is less than 82.30

> >

> > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > person unless necessary for some cause

> > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> >

> > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > without going by rules of the book.

> > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> >

> > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > seated in Lagna.

> > The 9th house is

> > aspected by its own Lord

> > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> >

> > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> >

> > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > own sign Virgo.

> >

> > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > of 6th.

> >

> > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> >

> > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > would become normal for him.

> >

> > Longevity - Medium.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskaar,

> > >

> > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed

> case -

> > >

> > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

rewa,

> > mp.

> > >

> > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I have

> lots

> > of

> > > queries.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

For Libra lagna, Leo is badhaka sthana and Ravi is the badhaka. Why did you

take 9th as badhaka sthana? Any special considerations?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Lalitji,

 

Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

uttered anything worse, thankfully.

 

There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

enmity and allegations, so murder may not

be shocking news for me.

 

But I did not expect you to give me a dead

mans chart, already knowing so.

 

He is currently running badhakasthana

Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

Lord kills when the time comes and if

connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

which many people seem to miss, and so is

Rahu. These two angles are very important

and the major incidents in a mans Life

revolve around these 2 Pivots.

 

Thank you for sharing the information.

I reluctantly did this chart because I use

the Forums only for relaxation , as a

Rest room or sharing experiences. The

other times I am engrossed in reading

charts professionally, therefore I come

here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

take up chart readings on Forums among other

reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

to night.

 

Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

and some people go away before becoming ripe.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar Ji,

>

> He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of weight

and

> 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he was

> doing good in student politics.

>

> He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm, last

> week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons and

> what type of people killed him.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > because one has to minus the correction

> > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > as logitude is less than 82.30

> >

> > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > person unless necessary for some cause

> > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> >

> > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > without going by rules of the book.

> > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> >

> > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > seated in Lagna.

> > The 9th house is

> > aspected by its own Lord

> > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> >

> > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> >

> > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > own sign Virgo.

> >

> > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > of 6th.

> >

> > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> >

> > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > would become normal for him.

> >

> > Longevity - Medium.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskaar,

> > >

> > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed

> case -

> > >

> > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

rewa,

> > mp.

> > >

> > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I have

> lots

> > of

> > > queries.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Krishnaji,

 

You are right Sir, I am wrong in putting

that statement there. Fir Libra Lagna the

11th Lord Sun, would be the badhaksthanadhipati

and not the 9th.

 

In natal Chart though lagna is Libra , the

11 th Cusp falls in the sign Virgo, making

it Budh as the Lord of the ,

badhaksthana which is operating as current

mahadasha in the natives Life.

I usually do my predictions

with Nirayana positions, but Placidus house

divisions,

and the concept of houses changes here. In

this chart two signs, namely Cancer

and Capricorn are missing, thus

making Venus as Lord of 12th as well as 1st

and Mars as Lord of 6th and 7th.

 

I am sorry for the mistake in writing the statement.

I also appreciate Your observations.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> For Libra lagna, Leo is badhaka sthana and Ravi is the badhaka.

Why did you take 9th as badhaka sthana? Any special considerations?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> uttered anything worse, thankfully.

>

> There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> be shocking news for me.

>

> But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> mans chart, already knowing so.

>

> He is currently running badhakasthana

> Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> Lord kills when the time comes and if

> connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> which many people seem to miss, and so is

> Rahu. These two angles are very important

> and the major incidents in a mans Life

> revolve around these 2 Pivots.

>

> Thank you for sharing the information.

> I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> other times I am engrossed in reading

> charts professionally, therefore I come

> here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> take up chart readings on Forums among other

> reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> to night.

>

> Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> and some people go away before becoming ripe.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of weight

> and

> > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he

was

> > doing good in student politics.

> >

> > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

last

> > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons

and

> > what type of people killed him.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > >

> > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > >

> > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > >

> > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > seated in Lagna.

> > > The 9th house is

> > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > >

> > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > >

> > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > own sign Virgo.

> > >

> > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > of 6th.

> > >

> > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > >

> > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > would become normal for him.

> > >

> > > Longevity - Medium.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaar,

> > > >

> > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed

> > case -

> > > >

> > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

> rewa,

> > > mp.

> > > >

> > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

have

> > lots

> > > of

> > > > queries.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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See how.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar Ji,

 

Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the age of

29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

 

Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons, no

body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought this

chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to know how

he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

 

I have no bad intention.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> uttered anything worse, thankfully.

>

> There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> be shocking news for me.

>

> But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> mans chart, already knowing so.

>

> He is currently running badhakasthana

> Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> Lord kills when the time comes and if

> connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> which many people seem to miss, and so is

> Rahu. These two angles are very important

> and the major incidents in a mans Life

> revolve around these 2 Pivots.

>

> Thank you for sharing the information.

> I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> other times I am engrossed in reading

> charts professionally, therefore I come

> here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> take up chart readings on Forums among other

> reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> to night.

>

> Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> and some people go away before becoming ripe.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

, " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of weight

> and

> > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he

was

> > doing good in student politics.

> >

> > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

last

> > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons

and

> > what type of people killed him.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > >

> > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > >

> > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > >

> > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > seated in Lagna.

> > > The 9th house is

> > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > >

> > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > >

> > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > own sign Virgo.

> > >

> > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > of 6th.

> > >

> > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > >

> > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > would become normal for him.

> > >

> > > Longevity - Medium.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaar,

> > > >

> > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed

> > case -

> > > >

> > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

> rewa,

> > > mp.

> > > >

> > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

have

> > lots

> > > of

> > > > queries.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit ji,

 

In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00 am. Using that

gives a totally different picture. See this:

 

1. Lagna in a sandhi

2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is afflicted by Sani)

3. Lagna lord is retrograde

4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

 

Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally indicates unnatural death.

 

For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha and Sani are the

top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task has been taken up by Rahu -

remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

litsol <litsol wrote:

Bhaskar Ji,

 

Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the age of

29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

 

Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons, no

body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought this

chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to know how

he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

 

I have no bad intention.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> uttered anything worse, thankfully.

>

> There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> be shocking news for me.

>

> But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> mans chart, already knowing so.

>

> He is currently running badhakasthana

> Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> Lord kills when the time comes and if

> connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> which many people seem to miss, and so is

> Rahu. These two angles are very important

> and the major incidents in a mans Life

> revolve around these 2 Pivots.

>

> Thank you for sharing the information.

> I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> other times I am engrossed in reading

> charts professionally, therefore I come

> here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> take up chart readings on Forums among other

> reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> to night.

>

> Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> and some people go away before becoming ripe.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

, " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of weight

> and

> > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he

was

> > doing good in student politics.

> >

> > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

last

> > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons

and

> > what type of people killed him.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > >

> > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > >

> > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > >

> > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > seated in Lagna.

> > > The 9th house is

> > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > >

> > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > >

> > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > own sign Virgo.

> > >

> > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > of 6th.

> > >

> > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > >

> > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > would become normal for him.

> > >

> > > Longevity - Medium.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaar,

> > > >

> > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a complicaed

> > case -

> > > >

> > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

> rewa,

> > > mp.

> > > >

> > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

have

> > lots

> > > of

> > > > queries.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Lalitji,

 

If some lady asks when she can expect a child, it is

understood that she is married, no one will look

for the marriage part in her chart,

unless he is paid a heavy

substantial amount as Fees, the

lady cannot expect that the astrologer should

check the marriage has happened or not.

 

Same way, when a chart is given with no information,

whatsoever, it is understood that the native would be

alive, why would anyone spend his time, checking that

the person is dead or alive ?

 

Nobody told you that this man is

dead unless You told the person, is nothing

strange. because you never

asked a straightwaway question to anybody

whthere this man could be dead or alive .

That also if You had asked

most of the astrologers would have

understood that you

are trying to test, and nobody would

have answered.

 

That man has been running 6, 8, 12 and the

badhaksthana Lord as the MD Lord.

Which is why I gave you the hint

that he is leading a miserable life since

few years and visitng hospitals more than often.

I also wrote finally - medium longevity.

One cannot be more clear than that because

we never know whos chart is this in relation to

you.I also gave you another hint,

that if this man crosss next 10 years

then his Life would become normal.

Any good astrologer could have told you that

this is a dangerous

period and probably the last period of his Life.

But who will tell you this even if he knows this,

because the chart may be of some close family

members of Yours, then who will take the risk.

 

The main point is to identify what the periods

signify, which is 2 minutes job for any good

astrologer. Then all matters fall in place.

 

This is one of the main reasons I have stopped

taking up charts on forums, people want to test,

time is spent, and time is money, and nobody to

pay you for this lost time.I normally dont

allow the natives who come to me with

their charts, to speak first

Normally with Gods grace I chalk out the current

problems of their Life and

tell them first, to let them know that

they are dealing with a serious astrologer.

But here of course I am paid for mys services,

so I enjoy doing that.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the age

of

> 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

> longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

>

> Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons, no

> body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought

this

> chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to know

how

> he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

>

> I have no bad intention.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> >

> > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > be shocking news for me.

> >

> > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > mans chart, already knowing so.

> >

> > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> >

> > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > to night.

> >

> > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of

weight

> > and

> > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he

> was

> > > doing good in student politics.

> > >

> > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

> last

> > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons

> and

> > > what type of people killed him.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > >

> > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > >

> > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > The 9th house is

> > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > >

> > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > >

> > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > of 6th.

> > > >

> > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > >

> > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > > would become normal for him.

> > > >

> > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

complicaed

> > > case -

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

> > rewa,

> > > > mp.

> > > > >

> > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

> have

> > > lots

> > > > of

> > > > > queries.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Krishnamurthy Ji,

 

Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like can a

yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ? can we

predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

 

I have to deliver new version of my application, i will compile my

queries either by night or by tomorrow.

 

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit ji,

>

> In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00 am.

Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

>

> 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is afflicted by

Sani)

> 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

>

> Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally indicates

unnatural death.

>

> For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha and

Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task has been

taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> litsol <litsol wrote:

> Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the age

of

> 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

> longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

>

> Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons, no

> body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought

this

> chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to know

how

> he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

>

> I have no bad intention.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> >

> > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > be shocking news for me.

> >

> > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > mans chart, already knowing so.

> >

> > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> >

> > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > to night.

> >

> > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of

weight

> > and

> > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he

> was

> > > doing good in student politics.

> > >

> > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

> last

> > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons

> and

> > > what type of people killed him.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > >

> > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > >

> > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > The 9th house is

> > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > >

> > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > >

> > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > of 6th.

> > > >

> > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > >

> > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > > would become normal for him.

> > > >

> > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

complicaed

> > > case -

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

> > rewa,

> > > > mp.

> > > > >

> > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

> have

> > > lots

> > > > of

> > > > > queries.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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>

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Dear Lalit,

 

Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to Scorpio and Saturn is

not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two top marakas are running, one

can predict death in any chart provided that Moon and Lagna both are afflicted

by top marakas.

 

I will wait for your queries further.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

litsol <litsol wrote:

Krishnamurthy Ji,

 

Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like can a

yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ? can we

predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

 

I have to deliver new version of my application, i will compile my

queries either by night or by tomorrow.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit ji,

>

> In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00 am.

Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

>

> 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is afflicted by

Sani)

> 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

>

> Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally indicates

unnatural death.

>

> For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha and

Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task has been

taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> litsol <litsol wrote:

> Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the age

of

> 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

> longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

>

> Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons, no

> body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought

this

> chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to know

how

> he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

>

> I have no bad intention.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> >

> > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > be shocking news for me.

> >

> > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > mans chart, already knowing so.

> >

> > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> >

> > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > to night.

> >

> > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of

weight

> > and

> > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as he

> was

> > > doing good in student politics.

> > >

> > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

> last

> > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the reasons

> and

> > > what type of people killed him.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > >

> > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > >

> > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > The 9th house is

> > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > >

> > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > >

> > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > of 6th.

> > > >

> > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > >

> > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > > would become normal for him.

> > > >

> > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

complicaed

> > > case -

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time at

> > rewa,

> > > > mp.

> > > > >

> > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

> have

> > > lots

> > > > of

> > > > > queries.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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>

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Dear Krishnaji,

 

I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

 

But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

or illegible or paper torn, then only

we look at what LMT time the Pundit

has written, otherwise why on earth

would one go for LMT.

 

because only the astrologers know to calculate

this, and not all the astrologers know to

calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

that atrologer would be present to

not the LMT, which would

be ridculous thinking.

Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

come first essentially and then comes

the LMT.

 

In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to Scorpio and

Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two top

marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart provided that

Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

>

> I will wait for your queries further.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> litsol <litsol wrote:

> Krishnamurthy Ji,

>

> Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like can a

> yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ? can we

> predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

>

> I have to deliver new version of my application, i will compile my

> queries either by night or by tomorrow.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit ji,

> >

> > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00 am.

> Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> >

> > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is afflicted by

> Sani)

> > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

> >

> > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally indicates

> unnatural death.

> >

> > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha and

> Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task has

been

> taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the age

> of

> > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

> > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> >

> > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons, no

> > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought

> this

> > chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to know

> how

> > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> >

> > I have no bad intention.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > >

> > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > be shocking news for me.

> > >

> > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > >

> > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > >

> > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > to night.

> > >

> > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of

> weight

> > > and

> > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as

he

> > was

> > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > >

> > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

> > last

> > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the

reasons

> > and

> > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > >

> > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > >

> > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > of 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > >

> > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > >

> > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

> complicaed

> > > > case -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time

at

> > > rewa,

> > > > > mp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

> > have

> > > > lots

> > > > > of

> > > > > > queries.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your

> homepage.

> >

> >

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Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of birth time error.

Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that Lalit ji has got the time in

LMT and tried to convert it to IST for the sake of the group. Of course, only

Lalit ji can confirm this.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

 

Dear Krishnaji,

 

I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

 

But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

or illegible or paper torn, then only

we look at what LMT time the Pundit

has written, otherwise why on earth

would one go for LMT.

 

because only the astrologers know to calculate

this, and not all the astrologers know to

calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

that atrologer would be present to

not the LMT, which would

be ridculous thinking.

Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

come first essentially and then comes

the LMT.

 

In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to Scorpio and

Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two top

marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart provided that

Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

>

> I will wait for your queries further.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> litsol <litsol wrote:

> Krishnamurthy Ji,

>

> Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like can a

> yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ? can we

> predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

>

> I have to deliver new version of my application, i will compile my

> queries either by night or by tomorrow.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit ji,

> >

> > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00 am.

> Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> >

> > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is afflicted by

> Sani)

> > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

> >

> > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally indicates

> unnatural death.

> >

> > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha and

> Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task has

been

> taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the age

> of

> > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

> > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> >

> > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons, no

> > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought

> this

> > chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to know

> how

> > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> >

> > I have no bad intention.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > >

> > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > be shocking news for me.

> > >

> > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > >

> > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > >

> > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > to night.

> > >

> > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of

> weight

> > > and

> > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people, as

he

> > was

> > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > >

> > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15 pm,

> > last

> > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the

reasons

> > and

> > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > >

> > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > >

> > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > of 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > >

> > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then Life

> > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > >

> > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

> complicaed

> > > > case -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local time

at

> > > rewa,

> > > > > mp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope, I

> > have

> > > > lots

> > > > > of

> > > > > > queries.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your

> homepage.

> >

> >

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No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth timings, I

only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned - 4 am

and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4 am.but 4

am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts on both

the timings.

 

ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination of

longevity.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of birth time

error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that Lalit ji

has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for the sake

of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Krishnaji,

>

> I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

>

> But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> or illegible or paper torn, then only

> we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> has written, otherwise why on earth

> would one go for LMT.

>

> because only the astrologers know to calculate

> this, and not all the astrologers know to

> calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> that atrologer would be present to

> not the LMT, which would

> be ridculous thinking.

> Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> come first essentially and then comes

> the LMT.

>

> In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> >

> > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to Scorpio and

> Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two top

> marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart provided

that

> Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> >

> > I will wait for your queries further.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like can

a

> > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ? can

we

> > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> >

> > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will compile

my

> > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > >

> > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00 am.

> > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > >

> > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is afflicted

by

> > Sani)

> > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

> > >

> > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally indicates

> > unnatural death.

> > >

> > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha and

> > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task has

> been

> > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the

age

> > of

> > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found enough

> > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > >

> > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the reasons,

no

> > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I thought

> > this

> > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to

know

> > how

> > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > >

> > > I have no bad intention.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > >

> > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > >

> > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > >

> > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > to night.

> > > >

> > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG of

> > weight

> > > > and

> > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people,

as

> he

> > > was

> > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > >

> > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15

pm,

> > > last

> > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the

> reasons

> > > and

> > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than living

> > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then

Life

> > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

> > complicaed

> > > > > case -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local

time

> at

> > > > rewa,

> > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this horoscope,

I

> > > have

> > > > > lots

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your

> > homepage.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalitji,

 

Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

of this Lagna after one and a half

hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

 

But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

shapes their Lives take seperately.

For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

appears, makes the difference. there are

certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

falls, makes a native impotent, where

the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

secretive findings of great research work and this

knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

in public as may land in hands of unworthy

astrologers. So do not underestimate

these degrees which are very important.

 

Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

know forms a important feature in a mans Life

enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

 

These degrees would of course also affect

the longevity of a native. Wen you study

advanced astrology you would realise the

effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth timings,

I

> only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned - 4 am

> and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4 am.but

4

> am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts on both

> the timings.

>

> ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination of

> longevity.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of birth

time

> error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that Lalit ji

> has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for the sake

> of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Krishnaji,

> >

> > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> >

> > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > would one go for LMT.

> >

> > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > that atrologer would be present to

> > not the LMT, which would

> > be ridculous thinking.

> > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > come first essentially and then comes

> > the LMT.

> >

> > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to Scorpio

and

> > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two top

> > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart provided

> that

> > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > >

> > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like

can

> a

> > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ? can

> we

> > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > >

> > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will compile

> my

> > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > >

> > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00

am.

> > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

afflicted

> by

> > > Sani)

> > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

> > > >

> > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally indicates

> > > unnatural death.

> > > >

> > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha

and

> > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task has

> > been

> > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at the

> age

> > > of

> > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found

enough

> > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > >

> > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

reasons,

> no

> > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I

thought

> > > this

> > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants to

> know

> > > how

> > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > >

> > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > >

> > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > to night.

> > > > >

> > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG

of

> > > weight

> > > > > and

> > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve people,

> as

> > he

> > > > was

> > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm - 10:15

> pm,

> > > > last

> > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the

> > reasons

> > > > and

> > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than

living

> > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017, then

> Life

> > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

> > > complicaed

> > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local

> time

> > at

> > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

horoscope,

> I

> > > > have

> > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make

your

> > > homepage.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar Ji,

 

Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the importance of

mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was trying to

understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided to ask

you and others.

 

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> of this Lagna after one and a half

> hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

>

> But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> shapes their Lives take seperately.

> For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> appears, makes the difference. there are

> certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> falls, makes a native impotent, where

> the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> secretive findings of great research work and this

> knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> astrologers. So do not underestimate

> these degrees which are very important.

>

> Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

>

> These degrees would of course also affect

> the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> advanced astrology you would realise the

> effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

timings,

> I

> > only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned - 4

am

> > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4

am.but

> 4

> > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts on

both

> > the timings.

> >

> > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination of

> > longevity.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of birth

> time

> > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that Lalit

ji

> > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for the

sake

> > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > >

> > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > >

> > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > would one go for LMT.

> > >

> > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > not the LMT, which would

> > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > the LMT.

> > >

> > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to Scorpio

> and

> > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two

top

> > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

provided

> > that

> > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > >

> > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like

> can

> > a

> > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ?

can

> > we

> > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > >

> > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will

compile

> > my

> > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is 4:00

> am.

> > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

> afflicted

> > by

> > > > Sani)

> > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

> > > > >

> > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

indicates

> > > > unnatural death.

> > > > >

> > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon), Budha

> and

> > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task

has

> > > been

> > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at

the

> > age

> > > > of

> > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found

> enough

> > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

> reasons,

> > no

> > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I

> thought

> > > > this

> > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants

to

> > know

> > > > how

> > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > to night.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130 KG

> of

> > > > weight

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve

people,

> > as

> > > he

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm -

10:15

> > pm,

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the

> > > reasons

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than

> living

> > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017,

then

> > Life

> > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " litsol "

<litsol@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

> > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am local

> > time

> > > at

> > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

> horoscope,

> > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make

> your

> > > > homepage.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Lalitji,

 

Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

Mahadasha Lord, and if native

has been given low, medium, long longevity

as per other assessment, and if the native has already

passed that age, or running that age, then know

that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

should never be made. because it is not allowed

and another point, most of us astrologers

are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

down chart or no Chart.

Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

explained (I am not going in that story) with a

real Life example that God can lift a man from

the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

the throne down to the ground.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the importance of

> mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was trying to

> understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided to ask

> you and others.

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> >

> > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > these degrees which are very important.

> >

> > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> >

> > These degrees would of course also affect

> > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

> timings,

> > I

> > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned - 4

> am

> > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4

> am.but

> > 4

> > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts on

> both

> > > the timings.

> > >

> > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination of

> > > longevity.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > >

> > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of

birth

> > time

> > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that

Lalit

> ji

> > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for the

> sake

> > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > >

> > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > >

> > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > >

> > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > the LMT.

> > > >

> > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to

Scorpio

> > and

> > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two

> top

> > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

> provided

> > > that

> > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries

like

> > can

> > > a

> > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ?

> can

> > > we

> > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will

> compile

> > > my

> > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Krishnamurthy

Seetharama

> > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is

4:00

> > am.

> > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

> > afflicted

> > > by

> > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

> indicates

> > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon),

Budha

> > and

> > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task

> has

> > > > been

> > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at

> the

> > > age

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found

> > enough

> > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

> > reasons,

> > > no

> > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I

> > thought

> > > > > this

> > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants

> to

> > > know

> > > > > how

> > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130

KG

> > of

> > > > > weight

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve

> people,

> > > as

> > > > he

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm -

> 10:15

> > > pm,

> > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know

the

> > > > reasons

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than

> > living

> > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017,

> then

> > > Life

> > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> <litsol@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

> > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am

local

> > > time

> > > > at

> > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

> > horoscope,

> > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make

> > your

> > > > > homepage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Bhaskar ji,

 

Namasakaar, can we fix when 6'th will partiticipate or when 8'th or

when 12'th or when 2nd or lord will partiticipate, We are handed

over enough knowledge by the sages and I think it's our part to

enhance it further.

 

This will help a lot to astrology, and the astrology will become more

and more reliable in the views of the people who still dont believe

astrology.

 

Through the groups and net, many authorities of the subject are able

to interact and share their knowledge with each other still, no

fruitfull discovery is done during past 10 yrs of internet groups,

Why ?

 

I believe the God who inspired the sages to discover astrology and to

make it a vedanga.

 

I wish u and other learned people will take initiatives in this

regards.

 

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

> 12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

> planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

> Mahadasha Lord, and if native

> has been given low, medium, long longevity

> as per other assessment, and if the native has already

> passed that age, or running that age, then know

> that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

> should never be made. because it is not allowed

> and another point, most of us astrologers

> are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

> of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

> down chart or no Chart.

> Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

> what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

> explained (I am not going in that story) with a

> real Life example that God can lift a man from

> the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

> the throne down to the ground.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the importance of

> > mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was trying

to

> > understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided to

ask

> > you and others.

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> > >

> > > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > > these degrees which are very important.

> > >

> > > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> > >

> > > These degrees would of course also affect

> > > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

> > timings,

> > > I

> > > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned -

4

> > am

> > > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4

> > am.but

> > > 4

> > > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts

on

> > both

> > > > the timings.

> > > >

> > > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination

of

> > > > longevity.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of

> birth

> > > time

> > > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that

> Lalit

> > ji

> > > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for

the

> > sake

> > > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > > >

> > > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > > the LMT.

> > > > >

> > > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Krishnamurthy

Seetharama

> > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to

> Scorpio

> > > and

> > > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of

two

> > top

> > > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

> > provided

> > > > that

> > > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries

> like

> > > can

> > > > a

> > > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a

maraka ?

> > can

> > > > we

> > > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will

> > compile

> > > > my

> > > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama

> > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is

> 4:00

> > > am.

> > > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

> > > afflicted

> > > > by

> > > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of

death

> > > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of

death)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

> > indicates

> > > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon),

> Budha

> > > and

> > > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the

task

> > has

> > > > > been

> > > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing

at

> > the

> > > > age

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found

> > > enough

> > > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

> > > reasons,

> > > > no

> > > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I

> > > thought

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also

wants

> > to

> > > > know

> > > > > > how

> > > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " litsol "

<litsol@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with

130

> KG

> > > of

> > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve

> > people,

> > > > as

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm -

> > 10:15

> > > > pm,

> > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know

> the

> > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather

than

> > > living

> > > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017,

> > then

> > > > Life

> > > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > <litsol@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's

a

> > > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am

> local

> > > > time

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

> > > horoscope,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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hare ramakrishna,

 

lalit ,

 

 

 

Thanks for calling me and asking me to participate in this

purticular discussion .

 

here even tho this is a post mortem analysis and generaly when

confronted the professional or ameture astrologers will see from dasa

running now and they wil never see this problems .

 

 

 

Now u hav already revealed and we know that this person is No more .

 

To ascertain longitivity i can disclose one technic to the group and

even b4 also i write some grps even 3 mnths backs this techniq ,and its

used by old pundits in kerala as a snap shot method to find ayus .

 

 

 

Its known as strenght of 3 navamsa lords ruled by 64 navamasa lord .see

who is 64th navamsa lord from lagna ,from moon and sun ,as this is

tripod of a chart ,even those who consider sudarshan chakra they are

using it as 3 lagnas and then progression to arrive at the death period

or various other periods .

 

so if u find this planets then see how they r in navamsa and where is it

,see thier strenght if one lord is strong then ayu may be lower ,if 2

middle and if 3 is in good amsas then u can see longer categary ,its

only a snap shot method and working in most of the cases .

 

 

 

Now coming to this chart .

 

Let us see longitivity tru this method .

 

see from lagna 64th navamsa lord is mercury and from moon is mars and

from sun is sun itself .

 

 

 

only mercury is exalted and own house and mars and sun is in satru rasi

,so its a case of alpayu categary which is roughly 32 years .

 

Now let us see ny planets dasa which is 64th navamsa said lords and 22nd

navamsa lords from moon or lagna is operating in dasas and any planet is

in Mrityu bhaga .And also see their amsa position from rasi chart .

 

 

 

22nd drekkana lord from lagna and moon according to parasari is saturn

and saturn is in mrityu bhaga also.

 

so dasa operating for him at the time of demise was mercury --rahu and

pratyantara of saturn .

 

 

 

Now see mercury is 9th and 12th lord who can giv both results and

positioned in a dustana tho mild 3rd house .

 

Now esp for libra lagna ,the lagna lord itself is 8th lord (also for

aries ) but libra i find tru experience very special .

 

 

 

so merucry is in venus nakshatra ,venus is both lagna and 8th lord and

with rahu ,so rahu can giv both results .

 

Now see prathyantar sat has deadly traits tho he is yoga karaka for

lagna .

 

 

 

In navamsa also merc and sat is 12th house and rahu is in 8th house from

rasi chart lagna ,which is libra ,its know as rasi tulya navamsa technic

..Yes here merc is in own house but see antara and prathyantara lords has

all the triats for a untimely devise .

 

 

 

this is my findings in a nut shell

 

If we serch in classics some dictums suitable for this charts untimely

death can be find out ,but lacking logic and a student need to master it

all in by heart way ,so i always discard those dictums .

 

 

 

Now its readers and students to find and expand this methods .

 

Always planets in MB (mrityu baaga is dangerous ,for eg sri amitabh

bachan had deadly accident during sub sub of sun who was MB and even

latest disease was during again sun period which has telecasted in TV

some 7 or 8months back )

 

I am going hibernation again will see u when i am lil more free .

 

 

 

all the best to u

 

thanks and regrds sunil nair .

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar ji,

>

> Namasakaar, can we fix when 6'th will partiticipate or when 8'th or

> when 12'th or when 2nd or lord will partiticipate, We are handed

> over enough knowledge by the sages and I think it's our part to

> enhance it further.

>

> This will help a lot to astrology, and the astrology will become more

> and more reliable in the views of the people who still dont believe

> astrology.

>

> Through the groups and net, many authorities of the subject are able

> to interact and share their knowledge with each other still, no

> fruitfull discovery is done during past 10 yrs of internet groups,

> Why ?

>

> I believe the God who inspired the sages to discover astrology and to

> make it a vedanga.

>

> I wish u and other learned people will take initiatives in this

> regards.

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

> > 12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

> > planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

> > Mahadasha Lord, and if native

> > has been given low, medium, long longevity

> > as per other assessment, and if the native has already

> > passed that age, or running that age, then know

> > that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

> > should never be made. because it is not allowed

> > and another point, most of us astrologers

> > are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

> > of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

> > down chart or no Chart.

> > Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

> > what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

> > explained (I am not going in that story) with a

> > real Life example that God can lift a man from

> > the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

> > the throne down to the ground.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the importance of

> > > mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was trying

> to

> > > understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided to

> ask

> > > you and others.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > > > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > > > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > > > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > > > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> > > >

> > > > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > > > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > > > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > > > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > > > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > > > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > > > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > > > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > > > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > > > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > > > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > > > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > > > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > > > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > > > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > > > these degrees which are very important.

> > > >

> > > > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > > > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > > > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > > > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > > > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> > > >

> > > > These degrees would of course also affect

> > > > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > > > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > > > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

> > > timings,

> > > > I

> > > > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned -

> 4

> > > am

> > > > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4

> > > am.but

> > > > 4

> > > > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts

> on

> > > both

> > > > > the timings.

> > > > >

> > > > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination

> of

> > > > > longevity.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of

> > birth

> > > > time

> > > > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that

> > Lalit

> > > ji

> > > > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for

> the

> > > sake

> > > > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > > > the LMT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama

> > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to

> > Scorpio

> > > > and

> > > > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of

> two

> > > top

> > > > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

> > > provided

> > > > > that

> > > > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries

> > like

> > > > can

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a

> maraka ?

> > > can

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will

> > > compile

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is

> > 4:00

> > > > am.

> > > > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

> > > > afflicted

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of

> death

> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of

> death)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

> > > indicates

> > > > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon),

> > Budha

> > > > and

> > > > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the

> task

> > > has

> > > > > > been

> > > > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing

> at

> > > the

> > > > > age

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found

> > > > enough

> > > > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

> > > > reasons,

> > > > > no

> > > > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I

> > > > thought

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also

> wants

> > > to

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> <litsol@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with

> 130

> > KG

> > > > of

> > > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve

> > > people,

> > > > > as

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm -

> > > 10:15

> > > > > pm,

> > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know

> > the

> > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather

> than

> > > > living

> > > > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017,

> > > then

> > > > > Life

> > > > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's

> a

> > > > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am

> > local

> > > > > time

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

> > > > horoscope,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Bhaskar,

 

I appreciate you bringing a very very important feature for

discussion. Though many of us know this, you are the first to bring

this out for open discussion.

 

These are the kind of topics that we should focus, in order to make

this a more useful group, helping people learn and understand more

predictive side of astrology.

 

Regards,

Satya S Kolachina

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> of this Lagna after one and a half

> hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

>

> But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> shapes their Lives take seperately.

> For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> appears, makes the difference. there are

> certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> falls, makes a native impotent, where

> the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> secretive findings of great research work and this

> knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> astrologers. So do not underestimate

> these degrees which are very important.

>

> Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

>

> These degrees would of course also affect

> the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> advanced astrology you would realise the

> effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

timings,

> I

> > only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned - 4

am

> > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4

am.but

> 4

> > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts on

both

> > the timings.

> >

> > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination of

> > longevity.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of birth

> time

> > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that Lalit

ji

> > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for the

sake

> > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > >

> > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > >

> > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > would one go for LMT.

> > >

> > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > not the LMT, which would

> > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > the LMT.

> > >

> > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to

Scorpio

> and

> > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of two

top

> > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

provided

> > that

> > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > >

> > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries like

> can

> > a

> > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a maraka ?

can

> > we

> > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > >

> > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will

compile

> > my

> > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , Krishnamurthy

Seetharama

> > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is

4:00

> am.

> > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

> afflicted

> > by

> > > > Sani)

> > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of death

> > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of death)

> > > > >

> > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

indicates

> > > > unnatural death.

> > > > >

> > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon),

Budha

> and

> > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the task

has

> > > been

> > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing at

the

> > age

> > > > of

> > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found

> enough

> > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

> reasons,

> > no

> > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I

> thought

> > > > this

> > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also wants

to

> > know

> > > > how

> > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > to night.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with 130

KG

> of

> > > > weight

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve

people,

> > as

> > > he

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm -

10:15

> > pm,

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know the

> > > reasons

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather than

> living

> > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017,

then

> > Life

> > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " litsol "

<litsol@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's a

> > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am

local

> > time

> > > at

> > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

> horoscope,

> > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make

> your

> > > > homepage.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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dear group ,

 

i posted a post without my comments .Pls re read as follows .sorry for

the inconvenience caused .

 

Dear sunil nair ,

 

 

 

I accept ur reading ,but still why major dasa lord is not indicating

this and planetary combinations are not indicating a alpayu chart

..Though 64th navamsa is indicating a short life .

 

sorry this is my observation .

 

 

 

regrds Vijaya raghavan ,

 

 

 

 

 

hare ramakrishna,

 

lalit ,

 

 

 

Thanks for calling me and asking me to participate in this

purticular discussion .

 

here even tho this is a post mortem analysis and generaly when

confronted the professional or ameture astrologers will see from dasa

running now and they wil never see this problems .

 

 

 

Now u hav already revealed and we know that this person is No more .

 

To ascertain longitivity i can disclose one technic to the group and

even b4 also i write some grps even 3 mnths backs this techniq ,and its

used by old pundits in kerala as a snap shot method to find ayus .

 

 

 

Its known as strenght of 3 navamsa lords ruled by 64 navamasa lord .see

who is 64th navamsa lord from lagna ,from moon and sun ,as this is

tripod of a chart ,even those who consider sudarshan chakra they are

using it as 3 lagnas and then progression to arrive at the death period

or various other periods .

 

so if u find this planets then see how they r in navamsa and where is it

,see thier strenght if one lord is strong then ayu may be lower ,if 2

middle and if 3 is in good amsas then u can see longer categary ,its

only a snap shot method and working in most of the cases .

 

 

 

Now coming to this chart .

 

Let us see longitivity tru this method .

 

see from lagna 64th navamsa lord is mercury and from moon is mars and

from sun is sun itself .

 

 

 

only mercury is exalted and own house and mars and sun is in satru rasi

,so its a case of alpayu categary which is roughly 32 years .

 

Now let us see ny planets dasa which is 64th navamsa said lords and 22nd

navamsa lords from moon or lagna is operating in dasas and any planet is

in Mrityu bhaga .And also see their amsa position from rasi chart .

 

 

 

22nd drekkana lord from lagna and moon according to parasari is saturn

and saturn is in mrityu bhaga also.

 

so dasa operating for him at the time of demise was mercury --rahu and

pratyantara of saturn .

 

 

 

Now see mercury is 9th and 12th lord who can giv both results and

positioned in a dustana tho mild 3rd house .

 

Now esp for libra lagna ,the lagna lord itself is 8th lord (also for

aries ) but libra i find tru experience very special .

 

 

 

so merucry is in venus nakshatra ,venus is both lagna and 8th lord and

with rahu ,so rahu can giv both results .

 

Now see prathyantar sat has deadly traits tho he is yoga karaka for

lagna .

 

 

 

In navamsa also merc and sat is 12th house and rahu is in 8th house from

rasi chart lagna ,which is libra ,its know as rasi tulya navamsa technic

..Yes here merc is in own house but see antara and prathyantara lords has

all the triats for a untimely devise .

 

 

 

this is my findings in a nut shell

 

If we serch in classics some dictums suitable for this charts untimely

death can be find out ,but lacking logic and a student need to master it

all in by heart way ,so i always discard those dictums .

 

 

 

Now its readers and students to find and expand this methods .

 

Always planets in MB (mrityu baaga is dangerous ,for eg sri amitabh

bachan had deadly accident during sub sub of sun who was MB and even

latest disease was during again sun period which has telecasted in TV

some 7 or 8months back )

 

I am going hibernation again will see u when i am lil more free .

 

 

 

all the best to u

 

thanks and regrds sunil nair .

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar ji,

>

> Namasakaar, can we fix when 6'th will partiticipate or when 8'th or

> when 12'th or when 2nd or lord will partiticipate, We are handed

> over enough knowledge by the sages and I think it's our part to

> enhance it further.

>

> This will help a lot to astrology, and the astrology will become more

> and more reliable in the views of the people who still dont believe

> astrology.

>

> Through the groups and net, many authorities of the subject are able

> to interact and share their knowledge with each other still, no

> fruitfull discovery is done during past 10 yrs of internet groups,

> Why ?

>

> I believe the God who inspired the sages to discover astrology and to

> make it a vedanga.

>

> I wish u and other learned people will take initiatives in this

> regards.

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

> > 12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

> > planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

> > Mahadasha Lord, and if native

> > has been given low, medium, long longevity

> > as per other assessment, and if the native has already

> > passed that age, or running that age, then know

> > that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

> > should never be made. because it is not allowed

> > and another point, most of us astrologers

> > are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

> > of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

> > down chart or no Chart.

> > Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

> > what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

> > explained (I am not going in that story) with a

> > real Life example that God can lift a man from

> > the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

> > the throne down to the ground.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the importance of

> > > mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was trying

> to

> > > understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided to

> ask

> > > you and others.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > > > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > > > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > > > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > > > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> > > >

> > > > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > > > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > > > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > > > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > > > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > > > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > > > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > > > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > > > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > > > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > > > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > > > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > > > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > > > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > > > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > > > these degrees which are very important.

> > > >

> > > > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > > > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > > > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > > > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > > > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> > > >

> > > > These degrees would of course also affect

> > > > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > > > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > > > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

> > > timings,

> > > > I

> > > > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were mentioned -

> 4

> > > am

> > > > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's 4

> > > am.but

> > > > 4

> > > > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts

> on

> > > both

> > > > > the timings.

> > > > >

> > > > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for determination

> of

> > > > > longevity.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of

> > birth

> > > > time

> > > > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that

> > Lalit

> > > ji

> > > > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for

> the

> > > sake

> > > > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > > > the LMT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama

> > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to

> > Scorpio

> > > > and

> > > > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of

> two

> > > top

> > > > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

> > > provided

> > > > > that

> > > > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries

> > like

> > > > can

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a

> maraka ?

> > > can

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will

> > > compile

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT is

> > 4:00

> > > > am.

> > > > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

> > > > afflicted

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of

> death

> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of

> death)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

> > > indicates

> > > > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon),

> > Budha

> > > > and

> > > > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the

> task

> > > has

> > > > > > been

> > > > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of killing

> at

> > > the

> > > > > age

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i found

> > > > enough

> > > > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

> > > > reasons,

> > > > > no

> > > > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead, I

> > > > thought

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also

> wants

> > > to

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than necessary

> > > > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> <litsol@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with

> 130

> > KG

> > > > of

> > > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve

> > > people,

> > > > > as

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35 pm -

> > > 10:15

> > > > > pm,

> > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to know

> > the

> > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather

> than

> > > > living

> > > > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years ie.2017,

> > > then

> > > > > Life

> > > > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person, It's

> a

> > > > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am

> > local

> > > > > time

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

> > > > horoscope,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make

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[Guest guest]

Dear Lalitji,

 

Namaskaar.

 

Dear Lalitji,

 

If all could do this , then everybody could become

a good astrologer.

 

Normally the wholes Life sketch of a person can be known

within 3 minutes maximum, with the dates of the events,

if one has the degreecal positions

of the Ascendant and planets. Chart is not needed, and you

will feel stunned to know, that 95% of the times I am looking

at a chart and predicting I dont even remember , what

is the ascendant, while doing the predictions.

This may feel shocking to you, but this is so. The

logical reason being when I focus on a single

problem this happens most, otherwise

of course one has to remember the ascendant eventually.

 

This is done in Nakshatra based astrology which I follow.

where just one sheet of paper is needed with the planetary

degrees and all numbers follow of the houses, which

give the desired inputs one requires for astrology.

 

But to reach this stage one needs to put in hard work

in mathematical astrology part for at least one Year

to 3 Years ( I personally have experience of only 1

Year in Mathematical part)

with some pre-requiste knowledge of the basics of the

astrology and sgnifications of the houses.

 

kind regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar ji,

>

> Namasakaar, can we fix when 6'th will partiticipate or when 8'th

or

> when 12'th or when 2nd or lord will partiticipate, We are handed

> over enough knowledge by the sages and I think it's our part to

> enhance it further.

>

> This will help a lot to astrology, and the astrology will become

more

> and more reliable in the views of the people who still dont believe

> astrology.

>

> Through the groups and net, many authorities of the subject are

able

> to interact and share their knowledge with each other still, no

> fruitfull discovery is done during past 10 yrs of internet groups,

> Why ?

>

> I believe the God who inspired the sages to discover astrology and

to

> make it a vedanga.

>

> I wish u and other learned people will take initiatives in this

> regards.

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

> > 12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

> > planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

> > Mahadasha Lord, and if native

> > has been given low, medium, long longevity

> > as per other assessment, and if the native has already

> > passed that age, or running that age, then know

> > that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

> > should never be made. because it is not allowed

> > and another point, most of us astrologers

> > are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

> > of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

> > down chart or no Chart.

> > Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

> > what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

> > explained (I am not going in that story) with a

> > real Life example that God can lift a man from

> > the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

> > the throne down to the ground.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the importance

of

> > > mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was trying

> to

> > > understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided to

> ask

> > > you and others.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > > > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > > > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > > > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > > > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> > > >

> > > > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > > > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > > > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > > > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > > > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > > > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > > > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > > > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > > > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > > > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > > > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > > > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > > > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > > > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > > > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > > > these degrees which are very important.

> > > >

> > > > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > > > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > > > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > > > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > > > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> > > >

> > > > These degrees would of course also affect

> > > > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > > > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > > > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

> > > timings,

> > > > I

> > > > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were

mentioned -

> 4

> > > am

> > > > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying it's

4

> > > am.but

> > > > 4

> > > > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the charts

> on

> > > both

> > > > > the timings.

> > > > >

> > > > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for

determination

> of

> > > > > longevity.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Krishnamurthy

Seetharama

> > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case of

> > birth

> > > > time

> > > > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible that

> > Lalit

> > > ji

> > > > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST for

> the

> > > sake

> > > > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > > > the LMT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama

> > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to

> > Scorpio

> > > > and

> > > > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis of

> two

> > > top

> > > > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

> > > provided

> > > > > that

> > > > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have queries

> > like

> > > > can

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a

> maraka ?

> > > can

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i will

> > > compile

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT

is

> > 4:00

> > > > am.

> > > > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See this:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon is

> > > > afflicted

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of

> death

> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of

> death)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

> > > indicates

> > > > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and Moon),

> > Budha

> > > > and

> > > > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde, the

> task

> > > has

> > > > > > been

> > > > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of

killing

> at

> > > the

> > > > > age

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i

found

> > > > enough

> > > > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are the

> > > > reasons,

> > > > > no

> > > > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is dead,

I

> > > > thought

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also

> wants

> > > to

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than

necessary

> > > > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> <litsol@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man with

> 130

> > KG

> > > > of

> > > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to serve

> > > people,

> > > > > as

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35

pm -

> > > 10:15

> > > > > pm,

> > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to

know

> > the

> > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment rather

> than

> > > > living

> > > > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable, for

> > > > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years

ie.2017,

> > > then

> > > > > Life

> > > > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person,

It's

> a

> > > > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00 am

> > local

> > > > > time

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of this

> > > > horoscope,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make

>

> > > > your

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Bhaskar Ji,

 

Namaskaar, I will put in yrs of my life to make it easy, open for one

and all.

 

I wonder despite all ur skills, why you could not guess anything

correctly in the given chart. Perhapse this man was not lucky, he was

guided by 2 astrologers of his city, but no one could even forewarn

him.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> Namaskaar.

>

> Dear Lalitji,

>

> If all could do this , then everybody could become

> a good astrologer.

>

> Normally the wholes Life sketch of a person can be known

> within 3 minutes maximum, with the dates of the events,

> if one has the degreecal positions

> of the Ascendant and planets. Chart is not needed, and you

> will feel stunned to know, that 95% of the times I am looking

> at a chart and predicting I dont even remember , what

> is the ascendant, while doing the predictions.

> This may feel shocking to you, but this is so. The

> logical reason being when I focus on a single

> problem this happens most, otherwise

> of course one has to remember the ascendant eventually.

>

> This is done in Nakshatra based astrology which I follow.

> where just one sheet of paper is needed with the planetary

> degrees and all numbers follow of the houses, which

> give the desired inputs one requires for astrology.

>

> But to reach this stage one needs to put in hard work

> in mathematical astrology part for at least one Year

> to 3 Years ( I personally have experience of only 1

> Year in Mathematical part)

> with some pre-requiste knowledge of the basics of the

> astrology and sgnifications of the houses.

>

> kind regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > Namasakaar, can we fix when 6'th will partiticipate or when 8'th

> or

> > when 12'th or when 2nd or lord will partiticipate, We are handed

> > over enough knowledge by the sages and I think it's our part to

> > enhance it further.

> >

> > This will help a lot to astrology, and the astrology will become

> more

> > and more reliable in the views of the people who still dont

believe

> > astrology.

> >

> > Through the groups and net, many authorities of the subject are

> able

> > to interact and share their knowledge with each other still, no

> > fruitfull discovery is done during past 10 yrs of internet

groups,

> > Why ?

> >

> > I believe the God who inspired the sages to discover astrology

and

> to

> > make it a vedanga.

> >

> > I wish u and other learned people will take initiatives in this

> > regards.

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

> > > 12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

> > > planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

> > > Mahadasha Lord, and if native

> > > has been given low, medium, long longevity

> > > as per other assessment, and if the native has already

> > > passed that age, or running that age, then know

> > > that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

> > > should never be made. because it is not allowed

> > > and another point, most of us astrologers

> > > are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

> > > of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

> > > down chart or no Chart.

> > > Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

> > > what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

> > > explained (I am not going in that story) with a

> > > real Life example that God can lift a man from

> > > the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

> > > the throne down to the ground.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the importance

> of

> > > > mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was

trying

> > to

> > > > understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided

to

> > ask

> > > > you and others.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > > > > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > > > > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > > > > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > > > > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> > > > >

> > > > > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > > > > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > > > > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > > > > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > > > > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > > > > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > > > > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > > > > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > > > > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > > > > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > > > > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > > > > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > > > > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > > > > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > > > > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > > > > these degrees which are very important.

> > > > >

> > > > > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > > > > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > > > > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > > > > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > > > > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> > > > >

> > > > > These degrees would of course also affect

> > > > > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > > > > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > > > > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the birth

> > > > timings,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were

> mentioned -

> > 4

> > > > am

> > > > > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying

it's

> 4

> > > > am.but

> > > > > 4

> > > > > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the

charts

> > on

> > > > both

> > > > > > the timings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for

> determination

> > of

> > > > > > longevity.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama

> > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case

of

> > > birth

> > > > > time

> > > > > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible

that

> > > Lalit

> > > > ji

> > > > > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST

for

> > the

> > > > sake

> > > > > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by the

> > > > > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > > > > the LMT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved to

> > > Scorpio

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-bhuktis

of

> > two

> > > > top

> > > > > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any chart

> > > > provided

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have

queries

> > > like

> > > > > can

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a

> > maraka ?

> > > > can

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i

will

> > > > compile

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > Seetharama

> > > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that LMT

> is

> > > 4:00

> > > > > am.

> > > > > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See

this:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon

is

> > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord of

> > death

> > > > > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord of

> > death)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord generally

> > > > indicates

> > > > > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and

Moon),

> > > Budha

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde,

the

> > task

> > > > has

> > > > > > > been

> > > > > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of

> killing

> > at

> > > > the

> > > > > > age

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i

> found

> > > > > enough

> > > > > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are

the

> > > > > reasons,

> > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is

dead,

> I

> > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father also

> > wants

> > > > to

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so never

> > > > > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than

> necessary

> > > > > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > <litsol@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man

with

> > 130

> > > KG

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to

serve

> > > > people,

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around 9:35

> pm -

> > > > 10:15

> > > > > > pm,

> > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to

> know

> > > the

> > > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of any

> > > > > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more time

> > > > > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment

rather

> > than

> > > > > living

> > > > > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen miserable,

for

> > > > > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years

> ie.2017,

> > > > then

> > > > > > Life

> > > > > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this person,

> It's

> > a

> > > > > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time / 4:00

am

> > > local

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of

this

> > > > > horoscope,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

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[Guest guest]

Dear lalitji,

 

Namaskaar,

 

// > I wonder despite all ur skills, why you could

not guess anything > correctly in the given chart//

 

Pl do not pass such statements without base.

What is there to guess. It seems you do not read

my mails properly. Everything was quite clear and

open. Though I expected such type of responses

from you, and knew you are testing, just

to talk like that later on,

but yet I read the chart for you,

and you know what has been written pretty well,

even before you disclosed about the person. What more

do you wish. That someone should write that this man

can be dead very soon ?

Which is what I wanted to write actually but thank

God did not utter such cruel words as not

allowed in astrological parlance.

I could not have imagined

that you would have given me a dead mans chart otherwise

that angle too would have been clear, but who will

write all these predictions ? if tommorow you

turn up and say that this is your brothers

chart or brother in laws chart, then who will

take a risk ?

 

Do not overestimate anyone, and neither

underestimate anyone. You have lost a good astrologer

I am proud to say,(With confidence of my knowledge)

because I may not take up any chart

coming from you next time, if you are going to

come up with such responses.

 

A person who is running 6th,8th ,12th and

badhaksthana simultaneously

how will he be lucky ? How wil he meet a

astrologer to guide him ? He will not meet the proper

people first of all, forget good astrologers.

 

Lalitji, do not expect too much from anyone,

is what I request you. Instead of being thankful

to someone who has spent time for you, the

repsonses you are throwing are unacceptable

because i knew about that native, which is'evident

from my mail, but okay I do not have to prove

anything to anybody.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

> Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Namaskaar, I will put in yrs of my life to make it easy, open for

one

> and all.

>

> I wonder despite all ur skills, why you could not guess anything

> correctly in the given chart. Perhapse this man was not lucky, he

was

> guided by 2 astrologers of his city, but no one could even forewarn

> him.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > Namaskaar.

> >

> > Dear Lalitji,

> >

> > If all could do this , then everybody could become

> > a good astrologer.

> >

> > Normally the wholes Life sketch of a person can be known

> > within 3 minutes maximum, with the dates of the events,

> > if one has the degreecal positions

> > of the Ascendant and planets. Chart is not needed, and you

> > will feel stunned to know, that 95% of the times I am looking

> > at a chart and predicting I dont even remember , what

> > is the ascendant, while doing the predictions.

> > This may feel shocking to you, but this is so. The

> > logical reason being when I focus on a single

> > problem this happens most, otherwise

> > of course one has to remember the ascendant eventually.

> >

> > This is done in Nakshatra based astrology which I follow.

> > where just one sheet of paper is needed with the planetary

> > degrees and all numbers follow of the houses, which

> > give the desired inputs one requires for astrology.

> >

> > But to reach this stage one needs to put in hard work

> > in mathematical astrology part for at least one Year

> > to 3 Years ( I personally have experience of only 1

> > Year in Mathematical part)

> > with some pre-requiste knowledge of the basics of the

> > astrology and sgnifications of the houses.

> >

> > kind regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > Namasakaar, can we fix when 6'th will partiticipate or when

8'th

> > or

> > > when 12'th or when 2nd or lord will partiticipate, We are

handed

> > > over enough knowledge by the sages and I think it's our part to

> > > enhance it further.

> > >

> > > This will help a lot to astrology, and the astrology will

become

> > more

> > > and more reliable in the views of the people who still dont

> believe

> > > astrology.

> > >

> > > Through the groups and net, many authorities of the subject are

> > able

> > > to interact and share their knowledge with each other still, no

> > > fruitfull discovery is done during past 10 yrs of internet

> groups,

> > > Why ?

> > >

> > > I believe the God who inspired the sages to discover astrology

> and

> > to

> > > make it a vedanga.

> > >

> > > I wish u and other learned people will take initiatives in this

> > > regards.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

> > > > 12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

> > > > planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

> > > > Mahadasha Lord, and if native

> > > > has been given low, medium, long longevity

> > > > as per other assessment, and if the native has already

> > > > passed that age, or running that age, then know

> > > > that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

> > > > should never be made. because it is not allowed

> > > > and another point, most of us astrologers

> > > > are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

> > > > of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

> > > > down chart or no Chart.

> > > > Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

> > > > what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

> > > > explained (I am not going in that story) with a

> > > > real Life example that God can lift a man from

> > > > the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

> > > > the throne down to the ground.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the

importance

> > of

> > > > > mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was

> trying

> > > to

> > > > > understand this chart, but reached no where, then i decided

> to

> > > ask

> > > > > you and others.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > > > > > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > > > > > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > > > > > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > > > > > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > > > > > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > > > > > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > > > > > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > > > > > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > > > > > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > > > > > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > > > > > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > > > > > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > > > > > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > > > > > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > > > > > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > > > > > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > > > > > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > > > > > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > > > > > these degrees which are very important.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > > > > > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > > > > > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > > > > > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > > > > > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These degrees would of course also affect

> > > > > > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > > > > > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > > > > > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the

birth

> > > > > timings,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were

> > mentioned -

> > > 4

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying

> it's

> > 4

> > > > > am.but

> > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the

> charts

> > > on

> > > > > both

> > > > > > > the timings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for

> > determination

> > > of

> > > > > > > longevity.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a case

> of

> > > > birth

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible

> that

> > > > Lalit

> > > > > ji

> > > > > > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to IST

> for

> > > the

> > > > > sake

> > > > > > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > > > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by

the

> > > > > > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > > > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > > > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > > > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > > > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > > > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > > > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > > > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > > > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > > > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > > > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > > > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > > > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > > > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > > > > > the LMT.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > > > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > > > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > > > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > Seetharama

> > > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has moved

to

> > > > Scorpio

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-

bhuktis

> of

> > > two

> > > > > top

> > > > > > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any

chart

> > > > > provided

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have

> queries

> > > > like

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be a

> > > maraka ?

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application, i

> will

> > > > > compile

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > > Seetharama

> > > > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that

LMT

> > is

> > > > 4:00

> > > > > > am.

> > > > > > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See

> this:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also Moon

> is

> > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD lord

of

> > > death

> > > > > > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD lord

of

> > > death)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord

generally

> > > > > indicates

> > > > > > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and

> Moon),

> > > > Budha

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is retrograde,

> the

> > > task

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > been

> > > > > > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of

> > killing

> > > at

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > age

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology, i

> > found

> > > > > > enough

> > > > > > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what are

> the

> > > > > > reasons,

> > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is

> dead,

> > I

> > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father

also

> > > wants

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so

never

> > > > > > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from morning

> > > > > > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than

> > necessary

> > > > > > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man

> with

> > > 130

> > > > KG

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to

> serve

> > > > > people,

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around

9:35

> > pm -

> > > > > 10:15

> > > > > > > pm,

> > > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope to

> > know

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local time

> > > > > > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity of

any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more

time

> > > > > > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment

> rather

> > > than

> > > > > > living

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen

miserable,

> for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments, unless

> > > > > > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years

> > ie.2017,

> > > > > then

> > > > > > > Life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

, " litsol "

> > > > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this

person,

> > It's

> > > a

> > > > > > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time /

4:00

> am

> > > > local

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of

> this

> > > > > > horoscope,

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

Namaskaar, I m sorry for u got hurt, testing u or testing any one was

never in my mind, I even requested Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, Rup Baqya

Sir, Suil Nair Ji and all those whom i can contact.

 

At first sight no one could tell any thing. Chandrashekhar ji

honestly admitted that after knowing the death only, he found the

clue to explain. Only Sunil Nair Ji was able to shed light on the

death, he also took 2 days to reach a conclusion.

 

This discouraged me as well as encouraged coz i saw enormous scope to

do research.

 

As i m not running 6'th/8'th/12'th lord's dasha, I m not going to

loose any good astrologer.

 

 

I believe, u will be there to help me where i need ur help.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear lalitji,

>

> Namaskaar,

>

> // > I wonder despite all ur skills, why you could

> not guess anything > correctly in the given chart//

>

> Pl do not pass such statements without base.

> What is there to guess. It seems you do not read

> my mails properly. Everything was quite clear and

> open. Though I expected such type of responses

> from you, and knew you are testing, just

> to talk like that later on,

> but yet I read the chart for you,

> and you know what has been written pretty well,

> even before you disclosed about the person. What more

> do you wish. That someone should write that this man

> can be dead very soon ?

> Which is what I wanted to write actually but thank

> God did not utter such cruel words as not

> allowed in astrological parlance.

> I could not have imagined

> that you would have given me a dead mans chart otherwise

> that angle too would have been clear, but who will

> write all these predictions ? if tommorow you

> turn up and say that this is your brothers

> chart or brother in laws chart, then who will

> take a risk ?

>

> Do not overestimate anyone, and neither

> underestimate anyone. You have lost a good astrologer

> I am proud to say,(With confidence of my knowledge)

> because I may not take up any chart

> coming from you next time, if you are going to

> come up with such responses.

>

> A person who is running 6th,8th ,12th and

> badhaksthana simultaneously

> how will he be lucky ? How wil he meet a

> astrologer to guide him ? He will not meet the proper

> people first of all, forget good astrologers.

>

> Lalitji, do not expect too much from anyone,

> is what I request you. Instead of being thankful

> to someone who has spent time for you, the

> repsonses you are throwing are unacceptable

> because i knew about that native, which is'evident

> from my mail, but okay I do not have to prove

> anything to anybody.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar, I will put in yrs of my life to make it easy, open for

> one

> > and all.

> >

> > I wonder despite all ur skills, why you could not guess anything

> > correctly in the given chart. Perhapse this man was not lucky, he

> was

> > guided by 2 astrologers of his city, but no one could even

forewarn

> > him.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > Namaskaar.

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > If all could do this , then everybody could become

> > > a good astrologer.

> > >

> > > Normally the wholes Life sketch of a person can be known

> > > within 3 minutes maximum, with the dates of the events,

> > > if one has the degreecal positions

> > > of the Ascendant and planets. Chart is not needed, and you

> > > will feel stunned to know, that 95% of the times I am looking

> > > at a chart and predicting I dont even remember , what

> > > is the ascendant, while doing the predictions.

> > > This may feel shocking to you, but this is so. The

> > > logical reason being when I focus on a single

> > > problem this happens most, otherwise

> > > of course one has to remember the ascendant eventually.

> > >

> > > This is done in Nakshatra based astrology which I follow.

> > > where just one sheet of paper is needed with the planetary

> > > degrees and all numbers follow of the houses, which

> > > give the desired inputs one requires for astrology.

> > >

> > > But to reach this stage one needs to put in hard work

> > > in mathematical astrology part for at least one Year

> > > to 3 Years ( I personally have experience of only 1

> > > Year in Mathematical part)

> > > with some pre-requiste knowledge of the basics of the

> > > astrology and sgnifications of the houses.

> > >

> > > kind regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namasakaar, can we fix when 6'th will partiticipate or when

> 8'th

> > > or

> > > > when 12'th or when 2nd or lord will partiticipate, We are

> handed

> > > > over enough knowledge by the sages and I think it's our part

to

> > > > enhance it further.

> > > >

> > > > This will help a lot to astrology, and the astrology will

> become

> > > more

> > > > and more reliable in the views of the people who still dont

> > believe

> > > > astrology.

> > > >

> > > > Through the groups and net, many authorities of the subject

are

> > > able

> > > > to interact and share their knowledge with each other still,

no

> > > > fruitfull discovery is done during past 10 yrs of internet

> > groups,

> > > > Why ?

> > > >

> > > > I believe the God who inspired the sages to discover

astrology

> > and

> > > to

> > > > make it a vedanga.

> > > >

> > > > I wish u and other learned people will take initiatives in

this

> > > > regards.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Whenever any native is running the 6th, 8th and the

> > > > > 12th house simulltaneously with the badhak Lord or

> > > > > planet placed in badhak as antardasha or

> > > > > Mahadasha Lord, and if native

> > > > > has been given low, medium, long longevity

> > > > > as per other assessment, and if the native has already

> > > > > passed that age, or running that age, then know

> > > > > that death awaits the native. But prediction of death

> > > > > should never be made. because it is not allowed

> > > > > and another point, most of us astrologers

> > > > > are nothing with our handful of knowledge in front

> > > > > of the Almighty who can turn the scales, upside

> > > > > down chart or no Chart.

> > > > > Once Raja Akbar asked his courtiers

> > > > > what can God do, Birbal waited for few days and

> > > > > explained (I am not going in that story) with a

> > > > > real Life example that God can lift a man from

> > > > > the ground to a throne, and bring a man from

> > > > > the throne down to the ground.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskaar and thanx, I did read yesterday abt the

> importance

> > > of

> > > > > > mritubhaga degrees and few other types of degrees, i was

> > trying

> > > > to

> > > > > > understand this chart, but reached no where, then i

decided

> > to

> > > > ask

> > > > > > you and others.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any lagna would remain same if a person is born

> > > > > > > between one - two hours of the period of that lagna.

> > > > > > > Even if he is born at starting of this Lagna or at end

> > > > > > > of this Lagna after one and a half

> > > > > > > hour or two hours, still the Lagna would remain same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But the degrees of that lagna or ascendant would make

> > > > > > > all the difference bewteen the hundreds of persons born

> > > > > > > bewteen that period of the Lagna and the various

> > > > > > > shapes their Lives take seperately.

> > > > > > > For that matter any House on whatever degrees it

> > > > > > > appears, makes the difference. there are

> > > > > > > certain critical degrees where if the 7th house

> > > > > > > falls, makes a native impotent, where

> > > > > > > the 5th falls, makes the native always has twins as

> > > > > > > children, where the ascendant falls the man will be

> > > > > > > a Murderer or psycopath, etcetra but these are very

> > > > > > > secretive findings of great research work and this

> > > > > > > knowledge is not to be frittered away blatantly

> > > > > > > in public as may land in hands of unworthy

> > > > > > > astrologers. So do not underestimate

> > > > > > > these degrees which are very important.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Fo simple explanation, the ascendant degrees

> > > > > > > decide the Navamshas, and the Moon degrees

> > > > > > > decide the Janma Nakshatra which we all

> > > > > > > know forms a important feature in a mans Life

> > > > > > > enveloping his whole with its influences thereof.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > These degrees would of course also affect

> > > > > > > the longevity of a native. Wen you study

> > > > > > > advanced astrology you would realise the

> > > > > > > effects of even 1 degree change of ascendant.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No,I have not made any correction or changes in the

> birth

> > > > > > timings,

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > only got the horoscope in which same timings were

> > > mentioned -

> > > > 4

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > and 3.56 am by pundit, however, his father was saying

> > it's

> > > 4

> > > > > > am.but

> > > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > am also the lagna remains same libra, i had made the

> > charts

> > > > on

> > > > > > both

> > > > > > > > the timings.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ok, if it's 4 am, what difference it makes for

> > > determination

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > longevity.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > Seetharama

> > > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I get you point. However, I feel it could be a

case

> > of

> > > > > birth

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > error. Hence, I attempted it that way. It is possible

> > that

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > ji

> > > > > > > > has got the time in LMT and tried to convert it to

IST

> > for

> > > > the

> > > > > > sake

> > > > > > > > of the group. Of course, only Lalit ji can confirm

this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnaji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I fear You may be spending Your time unnecessarily.

> > > > > > > > > If standard time is noted, then why should we go by

> the

> > > > > > > > > LMT. Normally the standard time is noted from the

> > > > > > > > > Clock , and nobody writes LMT time as birth time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But in cases where the IST is not visible in the

> > > > > > > > > janma Kundli due to ink being obliterated

> > > > > > > > > or illegible or paper torn, then only

> > > > > > > > > we look at what LMT time the Pundit

> > > > > > > > > has written, otherwise why on earth

> > > > > > > > > would one go for LMT.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > because only the astrologers know to calculate

> > > > > > > > > this, and not all the astrologers know to

> > > > > > > > > calculate, and at time of Birth not necessary

> > > > > > > > > that atrologer would be present to

> > > > > > > > > not the LMT, which would

> > > > > > > > > be ridculous thinking.

> > > > > > > > > Therefore the Birth time in IST has to

> > > > > > > > > come first essentially and then comes

> > > > > > > > > the LMT.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this case the LMT would become 3.51.08

> > > > > > > > > if the standard time of Birth is 3.56.00

> > > > > > > > > and not 4.00.00 which would be making the

> > > > > > > > > chart 9 minutes later than the actual Birth time..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > > Seetharama

> > > > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please note that for 4:00 hrs LMT, Lagna has

moved

> to

> > > > > Scorpio

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is not yogakaraka anymore. As the dasha-

> bhuktis

> > of

> > > > two

> > > > > > top

> > > > > > > > > marakas are running, one can predict death in any

> chart

> > > > > > provided

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > Moon and Lagna both are afflicted by top marakas.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will wait for your queries further.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,Thanx for the kind help, still i have

> > queries

> > > > > like

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > yogkarka saturn (retro) placed in 10'th house be

a

> > > > maraka ?

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > predict same sort of mishap in other cases too.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have to deliver new version of my application,

i

> > will

> > > > > > compile

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > queries either by night or by tomorrow.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

Krishnamurthy

> > > > > Seetharama

> > > > > > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In one of your earlier mails you mentioned that

> LMT

> > > is

> > > > > 4:00

> > > > > > > am.

> > > > > > > > > > Using that gives a totally different picture. See

> > this:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Lagna in a sandhi

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sani with badhaka in Badhaka sthana (Also

Moon

> > is

> > > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > Sani)

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. Lagna lord is retrograde

> > > > > > > > > > > 4. 8th lord in 2nd (marakasthana) - Also MD

lord

> of

> > > > death

> > > > > > > > > > > 5. Lagna is under the influence of Rahu (AD

lord

> of

> > > > death)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Involvement of Rahu as MD lord or AD lord

> generally

> > > > > > indicates

> > > > > > > > > > unnatural death.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > For this chart (looking at from both langa and

> > Moon),

> > > > > Budha

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Sani are the top marakas. As Saturn is

retrograde,

> > the

> > > > task

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > been

> > > > > > > > > > taken up by Rahu - remember 'Sanivad Rahu'.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I wanted to understand the cause of

> > > killing

> > > > at

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > age

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > 29, with my limited understanding of astrology,

i

> > > found

> > > > > > > enough

> > > > > > > > > > > longevity for him at least, 40 - 50 yrs.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Why he was killed, I mean astrologically what

are

> > the

> > > > > > > reasons,

> > > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > body could tell unless, i myself revealed he is

> > dead,

> > > I

> > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > chart may give more insights to us, his father

> also

> > > > wants

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > > > he was killed. Now he is out of the shock.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have no bad intention.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Okay. I thought he must be some relative so

> never

> > > > > > > > > > > > uttered anything worse, thankfully.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > There is lot of negativity seen in his chart,

> > > > > > > > > > > > enmity and allegations, so murder may not

> > > > > > > > > > > > be shocking news for me.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > But I did not expect you to give me a dead

> > > > > > > > > > > > mans chart, already knowing so.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He is currently running badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dasha (If he was alive), and badhaksthana

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lord kills when the time comes and if

> > > > > > > > > > > > connected to the 8th and 12th houses it is

> > > > > > > > > > > > a surety. Badhaksthana is a angle

> > > > > > > > > > > > which many people seem to miss, and so is

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. These two angles are very important

> > > > > > > > > > > > and the major incidents in a mans Life

> > > > > > > > > > > > revolve around these 2 Pivots.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the information.

> > > > > > > > > > > > I reluctantly did this chart because I use

> > > > > > > > > > > > the Forums only for relaxation , as a

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rest room or sharing experiences. The

> > > > > > > > > > > > other times I am engrossed in reading

> > > > > > > > > > > > charts professionally, therefore I come

> > > > > > > > > > > > here in bewteen to relax, and try not to

> > > > > > > > > > > > take up chart readings on Forums among other

> > > > > > > > > > > > reasons that it would otherwise leave no space

> > > > > > > > > > > > for rest to the mind if I do this from

morning

> > > > > > > > > > > > to night.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Life is strange, some people live more than

> > > necessary

> > > > > > > > > > > > and some people go away before becoming ripe.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol "

> > > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He is my relative, he has been a sports man

> > with

> > > > 130

> > > > > KG

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.2 " height. He used to visit hospitals to

> > serve

> > > > > > people,

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > doing good in student politics.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He is murderred in 10'th June 2004 around

> 9:35

> > > pm -

> > > > > > 10:15

> > > > > > > > pm,

> > > > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > week only his father gave me his horoscope

to

> > > know

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what type of people killed him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that the time of Birth is correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all LMT cannot be 4.00am local

time

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if Standard Time is 3.56 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because one has to minus the correction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 3.52 minutes and not add it,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as logitude is less than 82.30

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly one should not check longevity

of

> any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > person unless necessary for some cause

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like marriage matching or Disease etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But we will do it here if you request, but

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > without going by rules of the book.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Which I will mention some other time).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We wll do it in a primitve and simple way.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Venus is strong as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seated in Lagna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 9th house is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspected by its own Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury making the Bhagya strong.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Chandra Lagna again the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord seated in Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the 9th Lord seated in 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > makes the Bhagya prabal.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The 9th is also the badhakasthana)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsha Lord Mercury placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > own sign Virgo.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna in Nakshatra of Guru is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not a good sign as, Guru Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 6th.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that this native has spent more

> time

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > visitng hospitals and getting treatment

> > rather

> > > > than

> > > > > > > living

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life peacefully. His Life is seen

> miserable,

> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > last many years, in all departments,

unless

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if he is a surgeon, which I doubt.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If he is able to clear the next 10 years

> > > ie.2017,

> > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > Life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would become normal for him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longevity - Medium.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> , " litsol "

> > > > > > <litsol@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. help fixing longevity of this

> person,

> > > It's

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > complicaed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > case -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 21 dec 1975 at 03:56 am std time /

> 4:00

> > am

> > > > > local

> > > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > > rewa,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mp.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I m not able to understand a bit out of

> > this

> > > > > > > horoscope,

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lots

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > queries.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

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