Guest guest Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Respected writers, I am a silent member of this group. My DOB is 5 apr 80 and in my horscope I have vyatipata yoga. I am born in Vrischica (scorpio) sign under Anuradha nakshatra. In the 5th house I have mars, guru, sani and rahu. Can anyone please guide me as to what are the effects and remedies for vyatpat yoga? I have had many problems in all aspects and life has not been smooth. Is it due to this yoga? I request your advise and help. Thanks, Nirav Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Dear Nirav, Before discussing this yoga I would like to look at your horoscope. You've supplied your D.O.B. but no Time or Place. Please supply this information so members can look at your chart. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " niravs_m " <niravs_m <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:20 PM Vyatipata yog Respected writers, I am a silent member of this group. My DOB is 5 apr 80 and in my horscope I have vyatipata yoga. I am born in Vrischica (scorpio) sign under Anuradha nakshatra. In the 5th house I have mars, guru, sani and rahu. Can anyone please guide me as to what are the effects and remedies for vyatpat yoga? I have had many problems in all aspects and life has not been smooth. Is it due to this yoga? I request your advise and help. Thanks, Nirav Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Nirav, Ganesh and All, To the best of my knowledge the calendar (or tithi) yogas indicate certain innate characteristics (personality traits) and have little say, other than how we might react in certain situations, on the events related to planetary positions. It's the planets responsibility to dispense our karma. Having said this, there's little doubt that these yogas do have a strong influence on our deepest feelings/yearnings. I've checked the horoscopes of several people I know intimately and it's evident how deeply these traits are ingrained into their psyche. I'm sure, if you look at as many charts as possible of people you know well, you'll gain a better insight to these yogas. One thing I might add, in regards to Vyatipata yoga for instance, these natives can tend to sabotage certain situations themselves by anticipating, fearing, and thus attracting some calamity. As the saying goes; " That which I feared the most has come to pass. " We should also be aware that no yoga stands alone. It's either supported or hindered by the horoscope as a whole. In light of this perhaps you (Ganesh), and/or other members, might care to look at the exchange (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Mercury and 8th lord Sun in your chart. As we know, these (tithi) yogas are an important consideration when planing important events. One would (ideally) plan such an event to commence during a yoga indicating success in undertakings. Other members may wish to add more to this... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " niravs_m " <niravs_m <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:20 PM Vyatipata yog Respected writers, I am a silent member of this group. My DOB is 5 apr 80 and in my horscope I have vyatipata yoga. I am born in Vrischica (scorpio) sign under Anuradha nakshatra. In the 5th house I have mars, guru, sani and rahu. Can anyone please guide me as to what are the effects and remedies for vyatpat yoga? I have had many problems in all aspects and life has not been smooth. Is it due to this yoga? I request your advise and help. Thanks, Nirav - " Ganesh Ms " <ganeshms <jyotish-vidya > Friday, May 08, 2009 11:58 PM Re: Attn: Mrs Wendy Regarding Vyatipat Yoga Dear Mrs Wendy, I am sorry for the confusion created but I too have vyatipata yoga in my birthchart hence the query was posted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Mrs Wendy, Yogas connected with tithi are more useful mundane purposes.where as in the case of Individuals yogas that come through upagrahas may have some impact. Your absolutely write that "no yogas stands alone." and are supported or hindered by horoscope. Lagna Chart is therefore has lot more to convey through PAC as ultimately yogas arise through the palnets in the chart vrkrishnan--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyaRe: Vyatipata yogjyotish-vidya Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 1:47 AM Dear Nirav, Ganesh and All,To the best of my knowledge the calendar (or tithi) yogas indicatecertain innate characteristics (personality traits) and have little say,other than how we might react in certain situations, on the eventsrelated to planetary positions. It's the planets responsibility todispense our karma.Having said this, there's little doubt that these yogas do have a stronginfluence on our deepest feelings/yearnings. I've checked the horoscopesof several people I know intimately and it's evident how deeply thesetraits are ingrained into their psyche. I'm sure, if you look at as manycharts as possible of people you know well, you'll gain a better insightto these yogas. One thing I might add, in regards to Vyatipata yoga forinstance, these natives can tend to sabotage certain situationsthemselves by anticipating, fearing, and thus attracting some calamity.As the saying goes; "That which I feared the most has come to pass."We should also be aware that no yoga stands alone. It's either supportedor hindered by the horoscope as a whole. In light of this perhaps you(Ganesh), and/or other members, might care to look at the exchange(parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Mercury and 8th lord Sun in yourchart.As we know, these (tithi) yogas are an important consideration whenplaning important events. One would (ideally) plan such an event tocommence during a yoga indicating success in undertakings.Other members may wish to add more to this...Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya .com____________ _________ _________ _______- "niravs_m" <niravs_m (AT) (DOT) co.in><jyotish-vidya>Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:20 PM Vyatipata yogRespected writers,I am a silent member of this group. My DOB is 5 apr 80 and in my horscopeI have vyatipata yoga. I am born in Vrischica (scorpio) sign underAnuradha nakshatra. In the 5th house I have mars, guru, sani and rahu.Can anyone please guide me as to what are the effects and remedies forvyatpat yoga? I have had many problems in all aspects and life has notbeen smooth. Is it due to this yoga? I request your advise and help.Thanks,Nirav- "Ganesh Ms" <ganeshms (AT) ymail (DOT) com><jyotish-vidya@ . com>Friday, May 08, 2009 11:58 PMRe: Attn: Mrs Wendy Regarding Vyatipat YogaDear Mrs Wendy,I am sorry for the confusion created but I too have vyatipata yoga in mybirthchart hence the query was posted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, What I wish to add here at the first instance is this: Tithi and Yoga are two different issues though both the elements are basically used in Muhurtha (Electing or choosing a time for doing certain things). But at the same time, these two elements can also be very profitably used in natal astrology too. Since a person takes birth at a particular moment that moment stamps its peculiar nature on that person and that moment itself is considered as a Muhurtha. We know a person cannot elect a time to take birth. He has no choice. The luminaries Sun and Moon forms various angles in zodiac from their relative positions. Moon moves away from Sun and each 12 degree difference between them is known as Tithi. We can put it mathematically thus, Tithi = (Longitude of Moon - {minus} Longitude of Sun) divided by 12. When Moon and Sun are together at the same degree, it is known as New Moon or Amavashya. In all there are 30 Thithis. This relative position of Moon and Sun in a person's chart (Amavashya), certain Tamil treatises on astrology declares the tendency of stealing. One should not jump to conclusions that the person would be robber or a dacoit. The chart should support that he is a robber or a dacoit. These tithis are classified into 5 categories and Rikta category is in general considered as " inauspicious " . Yogas: Yoga is also formed by the relative positions of Sun and Moon in the Zodiac. To explain it in mathematically, Yoga = ( Moon's Longitude + (Plus) Sun's Longitude) divided by 13 degree and 20 minutes. This relative position gives the yoga in which a person takes birth. In all there are 27 yogas. There are 8 yogas which are considered as inauspicious. They are treated as malefic yogas. Vishkumbha (1), Atiganda (6) , Shoola (9), Ganda (10) Vyaghat (13), Vajra (15), Vyatipaata (17), Parigha (19) and Vaidhriti (27). I wrote the serial numbers of the yoga after the name. These yogas are generally avoided in selecting muhurthas. Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully malefic. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Nirav, Ganesh and All, > > To the best of my knowledge the calendar (or tithi) yogas indicate > certain innate characteristics (personality traits) and have little say, > other than how we might react in certain situations, on the events > related to planetary positions. It's the planets responsibility to > dispense our karma. > > Having said this, there's little doubt that these yogas do have a strong > influence on our deepest feelings/yearnings. I've checked the horoscopes > of several people I know intimately and it's evident how deeply these > traits are ingrained into their psyche. I'm sure, if you look at as many > charts as possible of people you know well, you'll gain a better insight > to these yogas. One thing I might add, in regards to Vyatipata yoga for > instance, these natives can tend to sabotage certain situations > themselves by anticipating, fearing, and thus attracting some calamity. > As the saying goes; " That which I feared the most has come to pass. " > > We should also be aware that no yoga stands alone. It's either supported > or hindered by the horoscope as a whole. In light of this perhaps you > (Ganesh), and/or other members, might care to look at the exchange > (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Mercury and 8th lord Sun in your > chart. > > As we know, these (tithi) yogas are an important consideration when > planing important events. One would (ideally) plan such an event to > commence during a yoga indicating success in undertakings. > > Other members may wish to add more to this... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Dear VRK and Ravindramani, Many thanks for your contribution! Much appreciated by all, I'm sure...myself included :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 09, 2009 3:09 PM Re: Vyatipata yog Dear Mrs. Wendy, What I wish to add here at the first instance is this: Tithi and Yoga are two different issues though both the elements are basically used in Muhurtha (Electing or choosing a time for doing certain things). But at the same time, these two elements can also be very profitably used in natal astrology too. Since a person takes birth at a particular moment that moment stamps its peculiar nature on that person and that moment itself is considered as a Muhurtha. We know a person cannot elect a time to take birth. He has no choice. The luminaries Sun and Moon forms various angles in zodiac from their relative positions. Moon moves away from Sun and each 12 degree difference between them is known as Tithi. We can put it mathematically thus, Tithi = (Longitude of Moon - {minus} Longitude of Sun) divided by 12. When Moon and Sun are together at the same degree, it is known as New Moon or Amavashya. In all there are 30 Thithis. This relative position of Moon and Sun in a person's chart (Amavashya), certain Tamil treatises on astrology declares the tendency of stealing. One should not jump to conclusions that the person would be robber or a dacoit. The chart should support that he is a robber or a dacoit. These tithis are classified into 5 categories and Rikta category is in general considered as " inauspicious " . Yogas: Yoga is also formed by the relative positions of Sun and Moon in the Zodiac. To explain it in mathematically, Yoga = ( Moon's Longitude + (Plus) Sun's Longitude) divided by 13 degree and 20 minutes. This relative position gives the yoga in which a person takes birth. In all there are 27 yogas. There are 8 yogas which are considered as inauspicious. They are treated as malefic yogas. Vishkumbha (1), Atiganda (6) , Shoola (9), Ganda (10) Vyaghat (13), Vajra (15), Vyatipaata (17), Parigha (19) and Vaidhriti (27). I wrote the serial numbers of the yoga after the name. These yogas are generally avoided in selecting muhurthas. Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully malefic. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani - " vattem krishnan " <bursar_99 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 09, 2009 2:26 PM Re: Vyatipata yog Dear Mrs Wendy, Yogas connected with tithi are more useful mundane purposes.where as in the case of Individuals yogas that come through upagrahas may have some impact. Your absolutely write that " no yogas stands alone. " and are supported or hindered by horoscope. Lagna Chart is therefore has lot more to convey through PAC as ultimately yogas arise through the palnets in the chart vrkrishnan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Wendy & Learned Members, Though these Yogas & tithis have some results, as many classical works have given some attributes for one born in such & such tithi & yoga, however, Late HR Shesadri Iyer has worked on this & revealed some unknown techniques in his book " New Techniques of Prediction " for use of the yogas & tithis in Astrological Predictions & readings. Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Nirav, Ganesh and All, > > To the best of my knowledge the calendar (or tithi) yogas indicate > certain innate characteristics (personality traits) and have little say, > other than how we might react in certain situations, on the events > related to planetary positions. It's the planets responsibility to > dispense our karma. > > Having said this, there's little doubt that these yogas do have a strong > influence on our deepest feelings/yearnings. I've checked the horoscopes > of several people I know intimately and it's evident how deeply these > traits are ingrained into their psyche. I'm sure, if you look at as many > charts as possible of people you know well, you'll gain a better insight > to these yogas. One thing I might add, in regards to Vyatipata yoga for > instance, these natives can tend to sabotage certain situations > themselves by anticipating, fearing, and thus attracting some calamity. > As the saying goes; " That which I feared the most has come to pass. " > > We should also be aware that no yoga stands alone. It's either supported > or hindered by the horoscope as a whole. In light of this perhaps you > (Ganesh), and/or other members, might care to look at the exchange > (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Mercury and 8th lord Sun in your > chart. > > As we know, these (tithi) yogas are an important consideration when > planing important events. One would (ideally) plan such an event to > commence during a yoga indicating success in undertakings. > > Other members may wish to add more to this... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " niravs_m " <niravs_m > <jyotish-vidya > > Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:20 PM > Vyatipata yog > > > Respected writers, > > I am a silent member of this group. My DOB is 5 apr 80 and in my horscope > I have vyatipata yoga. I am born in Vrischica (scorpio) sign under > Anuradha nakshatra. In the 5th house I have mars, guru, sani and rahu. > Can anyone please guide me as to what are the effects and remedies for > vyatpat yoga? I have had many problems in all aspects and life has not > been smooth. Is it due to this yoga? I request your advise and help. > > Thanks, > > Nirav > > > - > " Ganesh Ms " <ganeshms > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, May 08, 2009 11:58 PM > Re: Attn: Mrs Wendy Regarding Vyatipat Yoga > > > Dear Mrs Wendy, > > > I am sorry for the confusion created but I too have vyatipata yoga in my > birthchart hence the query was posted. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Ravindramani, Yes, I'm aware how these yogas are calculated...(vaguely) similar to the Arabic " Part of Fortune " . which is calculated as follows... Day Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Moon - Sun Night Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Sun - Moon I had thought however that vyatipata yoga (etc) were referred to simply as tithi yogas...my mistake, I'm afraid :-( Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 09, 2009 3:09 PM Re: Vyatipata yog Dear Mrs. Wendy, What I wish to add here at the first instance is this: Tithi and Yoga are two different issues though both the elements are basically used in Muhurtha (Electing or choosing a time for doing certain things). But at the same time, these two elements can also be very profitably used in natal astrology too. Since a person takes birth at a particular moment that moment stamps its peculiar nature on that person and that moment itself is considered as a Muhurtha. We know a person cannot elect a time to take birth. He has no choice. The luminaries Sun and Moon forms various angles in zodiac from their relative positions. Moon moves away from Sun and each 12 degree difference between them is known as Tithi. We can put it mathematically thus, Tithi = (Longitude of Moon - {minus} Longitude of Sun) divided by 12. When Moon and Sun are together at the same degree, it is known as New Moon or Amavashya. In all there are 30 Thithis. This relative position of Moon and Sun in a person's chart (Amavashya), certain Tamil treatises on astrology declares the tendency of stealing. One should not jump to conclusions that the person would be robber or a dacoit. The chart should support that he is a robber or a dacoit. These tithis are classified into 5 categories and Rikta category is in general considered as " inauspicious " . Yogas: Yoga is also formed by the relative positions of Sun and Moon in the Zodiac. To explain it in mathematically, Yoga = ( Moon's Longitude + (Plus) Sun's Longitude) divided by 13 degree and 20 minutes. This relative position gives the yoga in which a person takes birth. In all there are 27 yogas. There are 8 yogas which are considered as inauspicious. They are treated as malefic yogas. Vishkumbha (1), Atiganda (6) , Shoola (9), Ganda (10) Vyaghat (13), Vajra (15), Vyatipaata (17), Parigha (19) and Vaidhriti (27). I wrote the serial numbers of the yoga after the name. These yogas are generally avoided in selecting muhurthas. Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully malefic. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Wendy, Tithi--->subtraction Yoga---->Addition. Thank you, Gaurav. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Yes, I'm aware how these yogas are calculated...(vaguely) similar to the > Arabic " Part of Fortune " . which is calculated as follows... > > Day Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Moon - Sun > Night Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Sun - Moon > > I had thought however that vyatipata yoga (etc) were referred to simply > as tithi yogas...my mistake, I'm afraid :-( > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " ravindramani " <ravindramani > <jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, May 09, 2009 3:09 PM > Re: Vyatipata yog > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > What I wish to add here at the first instance is this: > Tithi and Yoga are two different issues though both the elements are > basically used in Muhurtha (Electing or choosing a time for doing certain > things). But at the same time, these two elements can also be very > profitably used in natal astrology too. Since a person takes birth at a > particular moment that moment stamps its peculiar nature on that person > and that moment itself is considered as a Muhurtha. We know a person > cannot elect a time to take birth. He has no choice. > The luminaries Sun and Moon forms various angles in zodiac from their > relative positions. Moon moves away from Sun and each 12 degree > difference between them is known as Tithi. We can put it mathematically > thus, Tithi = (Longitude of Moon - {minus} Longitude of Sun) divided by > 12. When Moon and Sun are together at the same degree, it is known as > New Moon or Amavashya. In all there are 30 Thithis. > > This relative position of Moon and Sun in a person's chart (Amavashya), > certain Tamil treatises on astrology declares the tendency of stealing. > One should not jump to conclusions that the person would be robber or a > dacoit. The chart should support that he is a robber or a dacoit. These > tithis are classified into 5 categories and Rikta category is in general > considered as " inauspicious " . > > Yogas: Yoga is also formed by the relative positions of Sun and Moon in > the Zodiac. To explain it in mathematically, Yoga = ( Moon's Longitude + > (Plus) Sun's Longitude) divided by 13 degree and 20 minutes. This > relative position gives the yoga in which a person takes birth. In all > there are 27 yogas. There are 8 yogas which are considered as > inauspicious. They are treated as malefic yogas. Vishkumbha (1), > Atiganda (6) , Shoola (9), Ganda (10) Vyaghat (13), Vajra (15), > Vyatipaata (17), Parigha (19) and Vaidhriti (27). I wrote the serial > numbers of the yoga after the name. These yogas are generally avoided in > selecting muhurthas. Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully > malefic. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Gaurav, I did say vaguely...very vaguely of course :-)) I was somewhat pushed for time (at that moment) and simply wanted to convey that both were based on certain calculations. Obviously I chose a wrong example...will try to take more care in future to explain my point before posting. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " " <gaurav.ghosh <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:13 PM Re: Vyatipata yog ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Wendy, Tithi--->subtraction Yoga---->Addition. Thank you, Gaurav. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Yes, I'm aware how these yogas are calculated...(vaguely) similar to > the > Arabic " Part of Fortune " . which is calculated as follows... > > Day Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Moon - Sun > Night Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Sun - Moon > > I had thought however that vyatipata yoga (etc) were referred to simply > as tithi yogas...my mistake, I'm afraid :-( > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Miss Wendy< Vattem Krishnan and other senior members of this group, yes there is an exchange (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Mercury and 8th lord Sun in my chart and you furhter add that it is the planets responsibility to dispense our karma my question is what can we the lesser mortals do by means of an appropraite remedy to rectify these hinderances by the horoscope as a whole.Ravindramani, says Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully malefichow do we atleast reduce the maleifc effects then?Please throw some light on this.RegardsM.S.Ganesh--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyaRe: Re: Vyatipata yogjyotish-vidya Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 8:46 AMDear Gaurav,I did say vaguely...very vaguely of course :-))I was somewhat pushed for time (at that moment) and simply wanted to convey that both were based on certain calculations. Obviously I chose a wrong example...will try to take more care in future to explain my point before posting.Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com___- "" <gaurav.ghosh<jyotish-vidya >Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:13 PM Re: Vyatipata yog||Jai Ramakrishna||Dear Mrs.Wendy,Tithi--->subtractionYoga---->Addition.Thank you,Gaurav.jyotish-vidya , "Mrs. Wendy" <jyotishvidya wrote:>> Dear Ravindramani,>> Yes, I'm aware how these yogas are calculated...(vaguely) similar to > the> Arabic "Part of Fortune". which is calculated as follows...>> Day Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Moon - Sun> Night Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Sun - Moon>> I had thought however that vyatipata yoga (etc) were referred to simply> as tithi yogas...my mistake, I'm afraid :-(>> Best Wishes,> Mrs. Wendy> http://JyotishVidya.com> ___--- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Mr Ganesh, In every chart based on birth timing may have good and factors.Planets individually and collective bestow results.The life cucle goes according to dasa system that gets evolved.if some of the malifience occurs /srises due to bad timing of birth the order of dasas to will be giving starin and less of peace and harmony. Mostly these issues arising out of day/tithi gain importance for muhurta or electional purposes particulalry for a good thing to happen successfully with out obstructions and delays. Dialy prayers done sincerely reduces bad effects of planets gives confidence to do our best.As far as life pattern and events are concerned they are cyclic,best way is to believe in ourself and prepare well to face all odds and consequences.Prayers particulalry to Ishta Devta based on birth star is the best remedy vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Ganesh Ms <ganeshms wrote: Ganesh Ms <ganeshmsRe: Re: Vyatipata yogjyotish-vidya Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 11:03 AM Miss Wendy< Vattem Krishnan and other senior members of this group, yes there is an exchange (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Mercury and 8th lord Sun in my chart and you furhter add that it is the planets responsibility to dispense our karma my question is what can we the lesser mortals do by means of an appropraite remedy to rectify these hinderances by the horoscope as a whole.Ravindramani, says Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully malefichow do we atleast reduce the maleifc effects then?Please throw some light on this.RegardsM.S.Ganesh--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com> wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com>Re: Re: Vyatipata yogjyotish-vidyaSaturday, 9 May, 2009, 8:46 AM Dear Gaurav,I did say vaguely...very vaguely of course :-))I was somewhat pushed for time (at that moment) and simply wanted to convey that both were based on certain calculations. Obviously I chose a wrong example...will try to take more care in future to explain my point before posting.Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya .com____________ _________ _________ _______- "" <gaurav.ghosh@ ><jyotish-vidya>Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:13 PM Re: Vyatipata yog||Jai Ramakrishna| |Dear Mrs.Wendy,Tithi--->subtractionYoga---->Addition.Thank you,Gaurav.jyotish-vidya@ . com, "Mrs. Wendy" <jyotishvidya@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Ravindramani,>> Yes, I'm aware how these yogas are calculated.. .(vaguely) similar to > the> Arabic "Part of Fortune". which is calculated as follows...>> Day Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Moon - Sun> Night Births: Fortune = Ascendant + Sun - Moon>> I had thought however that vyatipata yoga (etc) were referred to simply> as tithi yogas...my mistake, I'm afraid :-(>> Best Wishes,> Mrs. Wendy> http://JyotishVidya .com> ____________ _________ _________ _______------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Mr. Ganesh, Read my message calmly once again. I clearly wrote thithis and yogas (under discussion) are primarily used for the purpose of selecting Muhurthas to initiate certain activities. In other words, the use is extensive in electional astrology. I further wrote still these can be used for natal astrology. (This point is meant for the seasoned astrologers and research oriented one and not for general members). I don't know about your level of understanding in astrology. Why do you worry unnecessarily? I also wrote a person cannot elect his birth time. Can you reverse your birth time now? Needless to say, a person cannot elect a birth time for his own progeny. One may think he elected the best muhurtha. These are all futile exercises. There are certain areas where the best of your astrological knowledge would fail, where the will of the Almighty prevails. Muhurtha rules/parameters are so inter related and cumbersome that no Muhurtha is absolutely flaw less. Yes. I wrote Vyatipata and Vyaghata are treated as fully malefic. For what purpose are they treated fully malefic? You don't know and become worried. When such yogas operate in a particular day that day should be avoided for commencing certain activities. These yogas operate in a day for 800 minutes. In other words the length of the yoga is 13 degree and 20 minutes. A portion of that length (certain ghatis) should be avoided when certain malefic yogas prevail whereas when Vyatipata and Vyaghata prevail, no activities are to be started. I don't think it serves a useful purpose without knowing your astrological understanding to go further how Vyatipata should be interpreted in your chart. Else you would become more confused. I stop here. You are undergoing the dasha of Sat/Mer/Moon. Notice the exchange of 8th and 9th lord in your chart. It is the exchange between 3rd and 4th lord from your Moon. What you intend is not the real happiness. This is what planets say. Moon is your 7th lord who is in 6th without any flanking. What else can one expect? Disputes with your wife and visiting hospitals are the normal result. Thank God. Jupiter bails you out from the situation to some extent as he is a natural benefic placed from the lagna well. Mars the 4th and 11th lord in 8th with the Sub period lord. Lack of happiness is the normal result. Your 7th lord Moon occupies the debilitated navamsa which happens to be the house of emotions. Saturn the MD lord is in 6th in navamsa (7th lord of navamsa) and his transit in 8th house from lagana is, of course, a testing time for you. Jupiter is debilitated in your navamsha chart. His transit on your lagna is not conducive to 7th house affairs. Jupiter is 3rd lord in the 10th house with Kalathrakarka Venus. Try to change your outlook towards your spouse. Life is a kaleidoscope. As you move the instrument, the scene changes. Whenever the dasha changes, the pattern of life would certainly change. Have patience. Pray Saturn on Saturdays. That is the only remedy I can suggest. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani >>>Ravindramani, says Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully malefic how do we atleast reduce the maleifc effects then?>>> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 10, 2009 Dear Ganesh, As both vrkrishnan and Ravindramani have intimated, you really are worrying unnecessarily. One thing I'd like to emphasise here Ganesh is the reason why I insist this remains a discussion group for astrologers and (genuine) students of astrology. It is to avoid situations (such as this) where people without adequate understanding of jyotish can become quite fearful of what is discussed. I venture to say that there is not one astrologer here that hasn't got some negative feature in their horoscope. But, as our knowledge grows so too does our understanding and acceptance of the " Will of God " . This acceptance is itself the greatest remedy for any difficulties life brings our way. It doesn't change our karma of course, difficulties will still be there (if this is due), but we can weather the storm when armed with the knowledge that all karma is fleeting. Chanting Saturn mantra (23,000 repetitions) can help your debilitated lagna lord. You can download this from You Tube if you wish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNSi19vX6i4 & feature=related Wearing a black horse shoe ring (middle finger right hand) is also recommended. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Ganesh Ms " <ganeshms <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:03 PM Re: Re: Vyatipata yog Miss Wendy< Vattem Krishnan and other senior members of this group, yes there is an exchange (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Mercury and 8th lord Sun in my chart and you furhter add that it is the planets responsibility to dispense our karma my question is what can we the lesser mortals do by means of an appropraite remedy to rectify these hinderances by the horoscope as a whole. Ravindramani, says Vyatipaata and Vyaghata are treated is fully malefic how do we atleast reduce the maleifc effects then? Please throw some light on this. Regards M.S.Ganesh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites