RE: Identical Charts - not identical destiny! - Part 2

[Guest guest]

Continuation

 

 

From the above, to me it is clear, that the navamsa positions

are different for both and hence major difference in their destinies as

well.

 

Lagna and Moon Nadi for both are different. So at the basic level their fates cannot

be same.

 

Some Fundamental Differences

 

As per Lahiri you get the same

navamsa, and I am getting different navamsa. For Shaun I am getting Virgo

navamsa and for Sarah I get Libra.

 

So apart from fundamental

different of using different ayanamsa, there is one more difference, i.e I find

the conception time and not time of birth of child for timing of event.

 

I also use only 2 levels i.e MD

and AD and then divide the antra into 3 equal parts and then based on transit

of sun select the proper period for timing.

 

 

So, conception of Sarah happened in Guru MD and Ra AD. Both the twins were running the same MD

and Antra at the time.

 

MD shows karakatwa and Guru is MD and it’s the 12th

lord both in Kalpurush chart and in this chart which is also Aries lagna. So Guru MD can definitely give as it

does not aspect 5th, 12th or 9th.

 

So as soon as antra of Rahu antra started, Ra being SD to 10th

lord (upchay) for 5th house and she might be 16 / 17 years or age

her 5th house triggered.

Rahu period started on 14th Feb 2004.

 

 

Rahu is samdharmi to Ju and Me. For Shawn, both Ju and Me are 6th

and 12th house in Navamsa.

For Sarah it is in 12th and 5th house. So for Shaun it inhibits but there is no

obstruction for Sarah as Ju and Me are in 5th and 11th in

navamsa as compared to 6th and 12th house in navamsa for

Shaun.

 

Rahu is in navamsa of Capricorn so it becomes samdharmi to

Saturn. Shani is the most powerful

planet in both the twins chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Hse

 

 

SAV

 

 

Su

 

 

Mo

 

 

Ma

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ve

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

29

 

 

12

 

 

8

 

 

7

 

 

18

 

 

7

 

 

21

 

 

57

 

 

 

 

2

 

 

23

 

 

12

 

 

20

 

 

9

 

 

20

 

 

10

 

 

24

 

 

61

 

 

 

 

3

 

 

28

 

 

11

 

 

10

 

 

14

 

 

13

 

 

26

 

 

19

 

 

35

 

 

 

 

4

 

 

32

 

 

17

 

 

12

 

 

23

 

 

18

 

 

17

 

 

12

 

 

40

 

 

 

 

5

 

 

23

 

 

11

 

 

7

 

 

8

 

 

4

 

 

13

 

 

29

 

 

43

 

 

 

 

6

 

 

30

 

 

10

 

 

21

 

 

10

 

 

25

 

 

8

 

 

19

 

 

63

 

 

 

 

7

 

 

23

 

 

10

 

 

15

 

 

2

 

 

15

 

 

29

 

 

17

 

 

26

 

 

 

 

8

 

 

30

 

 

17

 

 

11

 

 

19

 

 

11

 

 

8

 

 

17

 

 

27

 

 

 

 

9

 

 

36

 

 

16

 

 

13

 

 

10

 

 

20

 

 

8

 

 

24

 

 

45

 

 

 

 

10

 

 

31

 

 

10

 

 

6

 

 

8

 

 

19

 

 

13

 

 

22

 

 

49

 

 

 

 

11

 

 

33

 

 

11

 

 

21

 

 

16

 

 

13

 

 

8

 

 

20

 

 

47

 

 

 

 

12

 

 

19

 

 

17

 

 

8

 

 

-4

 

 

12

 

 

21

 

 

12

 

 

23

 

 

 

 

 

 

In any case, when we take the two charts and study them in

detail we can go into further the depth.

 

If navamsa of the twins are same then there is more

similarities, for birth of children, it is better to study the chart of couple

before confirming anything.

 

If Sarah’s husbands chart is available it will be good

for study. I have a feeling that

her husbands Sa and Ra might conjoin or aspect her Ma and her Sa and Ra might

aspect her Ve.

 

w.r.t the both twins not being married, Saturn aspects 2nd

house, itself is 11th lord and it aspects Venus who is 7th

and 2nd lord. This

causes full delay. Guru is in

nakshatra of Shani so it cannot stop the delay and on the contrary it will

enhance delay as Guru aspects Venus in navamsa and Ju has 5 bindus. Mars also has 0 power in 12th

house in SAV.

 

I guess, for such charts, Ayanamsa factor becomes very

important.

 

Before I sign

off, I wanted to say that I enjoyed the phrase that you wrote “We never

do not step in the same river twice”

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash ji,I appreciate your efforts to give detailed calculations. As I am not familiar with KAS, it is difficult for me to comprehend this in its entirety.Regards,Krishna

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Ash's Corner <kas wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Continuation

 

 

From the above, to me it is clear, that the navamsa positions

are different for both and hence major difference in their destinies as

well. 

 

Lagna and Moon Nadi for both are different.  So at the basic level their fates cannot

be same.

 

Some Fundamental Differences

 

As per Lahiri you get the same

navamsa, and I am getting different navamsa.    For Shaun I am getting Virgo

navamsa and for Sarah I get Libra.

 

So apart from fundamental

different of using different ayanamsa, there is one more difference, i.e I find

the conception time and not time of birth of child for timing of event.

 

I also use only 2 levels i.e MD

and AD and then divide the antra into 3 equal parts and then based on transit

of sun select the proper period for timing.

 

 

So, conception of Sarah happened in Guru MD and Ra AD.  Both the twins were running the same MD

and Antra at the time. 

 

MD shows karakatwa and Guru is MD and it’s the 12th

lord both in Kalpurush chart and in this chart which is also Aries lagna.  So Guru MD can definitely give as it

does not aspect 5th, 12th or 9th. 

 

So as soon as antra of Rahu antra started, Ra being SD to 10th

lord (upchay) for 5th house and she might be 16 / 17 years or age

her 5th house triggered. 

Rahu period started on 14th Feb 2004.

 

 

Rahu is samdharmi to Ju and Me.  For Shawn, both Ju and Me are 6th

and 12th house in Navamsa. 

For Sarah it is in 12th and 5th house.  So for Shaun it inhibits but there is no

obstruction for Sarah as Ju and Me are in 5th and 11th in

navamsa as compared to 6th and 12th house in navamsa for

Shaun.

 

Rahu is in navamsa of Capricorn so it becomes samdharmi to

Saturn.  Shani is the most powerful

planet in both the twins chart. 

 

 

 

 

 

Hse

 

 

SAV

 

 

Su

 

 

Mo

 

 

Ma

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ve

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

29

 

 

12

 

 

8

 

 

7

 

 

18

 

 

7

 

 

21

 

 

57

 

 

 

 

2

 

 

23

 

 

12

 

 

20

 

 

9

 

 

20

 

 

10

 

 

24

 

 

61

 

 

 

 

3

 

 

28

 

 

11

 

 

10

 

 

14

 

 

13

 

 

26

 

 

19

 

 

35

 

 

 

 

4

 

 

32

 

 

17

 

 

12

 

 

23

 

 

18

 

 

17

 

 

12

 

 

40

 

 

 

 

5

 

 

23

 

 

11

 

 

7

 

 

8

 

 

4

 

 

13

 

 

29

 

 

43

 

 

 

 

6

 

 

30

 

 

10

 

 

21

 

 

10

 

 

25

 

 

8

 

 

19

 

 

63

 

 

 

 

7

 

 

23

 

 

10

 

 

15

 

 

2

 

 

15

 

 

29

 

 

17

 

 

26

 

 

 

 

8

 

 

30

 

 

17

 

 

11

 

 

19

 

 

11

 

 

8

 

 

17

 

 

27

 

 

 

 

9

 

 

36

 

 

16

 

 

13

 

 

10

 

 

20

 

 

8

 

 

24

 

 

45

 

 

 

 

10

 

 

31

 

 

10

 

 

6

 

 

8

 

 

19

 

 

13

 

 

22

 

 

49

 

 

 

 

11

 

 

33

 

 

11

 

 

21

 

 

16

 

 

13

 

 

8

 

 

20

 

 

47

 

 

 

 

12

 

 

19

 

 

17

 

 

8

 

 

-4

 

 

12

 

 

21

 

 

12

 

 

23

 

 

 

 

 

 

In any case, when we take the two charts and study them in

detail we can go into further the depth.

 

If navamsa of the twins are same then there is more

similarities, for birth of children, it is better to study the chart of couple

before confirming anything. 

 

If Sarah’s husbands chart is available it will be good

for study.  I have a feeling that

her husbands Sa and Ra might conjoin or aspect her Ma and her Sa and Ra might

aspect her Ve.

 

w.r.t the both twins not being married, Saturn aspects 2nd

house, itself is 11th lord and it aspects Venus who is 7th

and 2nd lord.  This

causes full delay.  Guru is in

nakshatra of Shani so it cannot stop the delay and on the contrary it will

enhance delay as Guru aspects Venus in navamsa and Ju has 5 bindus.   Mars also has 0 power in 12th

house in SAV. 

 

I guess, for such charts, Ayanamsa factor becomes very

important. 

 

Before I  sign

off, I wanted to say that I enjoyed the phrase that you wrote “We never

do not step in the same river twice”

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca