Jupiter's Transit into Capricorn

December 11, 2008

Dear Balaji,Vk,Ra ja and All,

Very good points and perspective!.

Yes, I agree, there is much for everyone with Jupiter's transit into

Capricorn/Sa with conjunct Rahu.

After I wrote my initial request for inquiry, I thought about it some more.

And, realized, it would be better to open the discussion up and delineate

charts, no matter where natal Jupiter was placed against transit Jupiter and any

Jupiter Dashas running in 2009.

I thought at first it would be too broad of a subject, but the response has

shown that a broader perspective would be better.

Balaji.

//...we should look at people who will be running MD/AD/PD of Guru in 2009, when

Guru is neecha.

IMHO, even if somebody has uccha Guru in birth chart, he/she will have problems

if he/she is running Guru's periods in 2009.//

Balaji, I couldn't agree more!!

So lets do it!

So let's take this on a personal and global issue since both will effect

everyone.

With that in mind, I must first correct that Saturn will transit into Virgo

September 10th and not in July. Also, RA/KE transit will move to Gemini/Sag

November 4th and not in September. So too, Jupiter will transit out of Capricorn

December 20th and not January 2010.

These corrections were made after consulting my Betz (sidereal) Ephemeris.

Which does bring up a very important point. There are many differing opinions

out there that use their own calculations for planet movement. This could be

another system used or just plain ignorance.

So lets first see where some key movements will be in the next year that will

have an effect on Jupiter's transit and the Dasha's for those running Jupiter

there.

As we have acknowledged, Jupiter's transit will mostly be in Capricorn til

December 20th 2009. In that transit, another movement of Jupiter will be very

important. Jupiter will take a brief jump into Aquarius May 2nd through July

30th. Also, in that time frame Jupiter will retrograde June 15 through July

30th and will continue its retrograde once Jupiter moves back to Cap until Oct

13th when it goes direct.

Too, Dec 31st of 2008 we will see and start to experience the effects of Saturn

retrograde. Sat's retrograde will continue through May 17th where it turns

direct for the rest of 2009.

As we know Jupiter in Capricorn is the debilitation sign for Jupiter where is

has little if no strength to be his expansive lucky self or preach his favorite

philosophies etc. On Jan 2nd through Jan 5th Jupiter transit will be at its

most debilitative.

Not to be discounted, there will also be the continuing effects of the Sun and

Lunar eclipses of August 2008 affecting key points and the major transit of

Jupiter in a chart.

Then on Jan 26, 2009 we will see another Solar eclipse along with a Lunar

eclipse two weeks later on Feb 9th.

Again, we will see another Lunar eclipse and a Solar eclipse in July along with

one more Lunar eclipse in Aug before Jupiter settles into Aquarius Dec 20th.

They will occur July 7th Lunar, July 22 Solar and Lunar August 6th.

Finally, we mustn't forget Rahu's Retrograde and Direct motions in 2009

______________________________

Jupiter 09/Dec/08 Cap

Saturn® 31/Dec/08 Leo

Rahu® 01/Jan/09

Jupiter's debilitation 5* degree

02/Jan/09 through 05/Jan/09 (3 days)

Rahu(D) 19/Jan/09

Solar Eclipse 26/Jan/09

Rahu® 08/Feb/09

Rahu(D) 09/Feb/09

Lunar Eclipse 09/Feb/09

Rahu® 14/Feb/09

Jupiter conjunct Rahu

15/Feb/09 through 17/Feb/09 (3days)

Jupiter 02/May/09 Aqu

Saturn(D) 17/May/09 Leo

Jupiter® 15/June/09 Cap

Lunar Eclipse 07/July/09

Rahu(D) 11/July/09

Solar Eclipse 22/July/09

Jupiter® 30/July/09 Aqu

Jupiter 31/July/09 Cap

Rahu® 03/Aug/09

Lunar Eclipse 06/Aug/09

Saturn 10/Sept/09 Vi

Jupiter(D) 13/Oct/09 Cap

RA/KE 04/Nov/09 Ge/Sag

Jupiter 20/Dec/09 Aqu

______________________________

If Members would like to supply natal or mundane charts regarding the effects of

Jupiter's transit in Capricorn or it's Dashas for group discussion and study, I

will be more than happy to create a list of them in the file section of

Jyotish-Vidya for reference.

So far we have three charts we can begin with.

1. One with Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter and Moon along

with transit Rahu in 7th house.

2. Another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjuncts natal Jupiter in second

house.

3. And another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter

Always,

Uttara

" Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth "

Guatama Buddha

December 11, 2008

Namaste Uttara ji,

Very good information about planests movement and eclipse.

Bharat

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Dear Uttara

a good timeline of planets, eclipses, retrogression etc

for case study u can use my data that is in the groups already

Barack Obamas too.

here again

Aug 5 61 9.16 Hrs Madras [chennai now]

sure other facotrs than transit will also be useful to study alongside

prashant

On 12/12/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> Dear Balaji,Vk,Ra ja and All,

>

> Very good points and perspective!.

>

> Yes, I agree, there is much for everyone with Jupiter's transit into

> Capricorn/Sa with conjunct Rahu.

>

> After I wrote my initial request for inquiry, I thought about it some more.

> And, realized, it would be better to open the discussion up and delineate

> charts, no matter where natal Jupiter was placed against transit Jupiter and

> any Jupiter Dashas running in 2009.

>

> I thought at first it would be too broad of a subject, but the response has

> shown that a broader perspective would be better.

>

> Balaji.

> //...we should look at people who will be running MD/AD/PD of Guru in 2009,

> when Guru is neecha.

>

> IMHO, even if somebody has uccha Guru in birth chart, he/she will have

> problems if he/she is running Guru's periods in 2009.//

>

> Balaji, I couldn't agree more!!

>

> So lets do it!

>

> So let's take this on a personal and global issue since both will effect

> everyone.

>

> With that in mind, I must first correct that Saturn will transit into Virgo

> September 10th and not in July. Also, RA/KE transit will move to Gemini/Sag

> November 4th and not in September. So too, Jupiter will transit out of

> Capricorn December 20th and not January 2010.

>

> These corrections were made after consulting my Betz (sidereal) Ephemeris.

> Which does bring up a very important point. There are many differing

> opinions out there that use their own calculations for planet movement. This

> could be another system used or just plain ignorance.

>

> So lets first see where some key movements will be in the next year that

> will have an effect on Jupiter's transit and the Dasha's for those running

> Jupiter there.

>

> As we have acknowledged, Jupiter's transit will mostly be in Capricorn til

> December 20th 2009. In that transit, another movement of Jupiter will be

> very important. Jupiter will take a brief jump into Aquarius May 2nd through

> July 30th. Also, in that time frame Jupiter will retrograde June 15 through

> July 30th and will continue its retrograde once Jupiter moves back to Cap

> until Oct 13th when it goes direct.

>

> Too, Dec 31st of 2008 we will see and start to experience the effects of

> Saturn retrograde. Sat's retrograde will continue through May 17th where it

> turns direct for the rest of 2009.

>

> As we know Jupiter in Capricorn is the debilitation sign for Jupiter where

> is has little if no strength to be his expansive lucky self or preach his

> favorite philosophies etc. On Jan 2nd through Jan 5th Jupiter transit will

> be at its most debilitative.

>

> Not to be discounted, there will also be the continuing effects of the Sun

> and Lunar eclipses of August 2008 affecting key points and the major transit

> of Jupiter in a chart.

>

> Then on Jan 26, 2009 we will see another Solar eclipse along with a Lunar

> eclipse two weeks later on Feb 9th.

>

> Again, we will see another Lunar eclipse and a Solar eclipse in July along

> with one more Lunar eclipse in Aug before Jupiter settles into Aquarius Dec

> 20th. They will occur July 7th Lunar, July 22 Solar and Lunar August 6th.

>

> Finally, we mustn't forget Rahu's Retrograde and Direct motions in 2009

> ______________________________

>

> Jupiter 09/Dec/08 Cap

> Saturn® 31/Dec/08 Leo

>

> Rahu® 01/Jan/09

>

> Jupiter's debilitation 5* degree

> 02/Jan/09 through 05/Jan/09 (3 days)

>

> Rahu(D) 19/Jan/09

> Solar Eclipse 26/Jan/09

>

> Rahu® 08/Feb/09

> Rahu(D) 09/Feb/09

>

> Lunar Eclipse 09/Feb/09

> Rahu® 14/Feb/09

>

> Jupiter conjunct Rahu

> 15/Feb/09 through 17/Feb/09 (3days)

>

> Jupiter 02/May/09 Aqu

> Saturn(D) 17/May/09 Leo

>

> Jupiter® 15/June/09 Cap

>

> Lunar Eclipse 07/July/09

> Rahu(D) 11/July/09

> Solar Eclipse 22/July/09

>

> Jupiter® 30/July/09 Aqu

> Jupiter 31/July/09 Cap

>

> Rahu® 03/Aug/09

> Lunar Eclipse 06/Aug/09

>

> Saturn 10/Sept/09 Vi

>

> Jupiter(D) 13/Oct/09 Cap

>

> RA/KE 04/Nov/09 Ge/Sag

>

> Jupiter 20/Dec/09 Aqu

>

> ______________________________

>

> If Members would like to supply natal or mundane charts regarding the

> effects of Jupiter's transit in Capricorn or it's Dashas for group

> discussion and study, I will be more than happy to create a list of them in

> the file section of Jyotish-Vidya for reference.

>

> So far we have three charts we can begin with.

>

> 1. One with Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter and Moon

> along with transit Rahu in 7th house.

>

> 2. Another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjuncts natal Jupiter in

> second house.

>

> 3. And another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter

>

> Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth "

> Guatama Buddha

>

December 13, 2008

Thanks Prashant!

Yes, too I agree, many factors other than transit can be studied with

this placement.

Uttara

jyotish-vidya , " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar wrote:

>

> Dear Uttara

>

> a good timeline of planets, eclipses, retrogression etc

>

> for case study u can use my data that is in the groups already

> Barack Obamas too.

>

> here again

>

> Aug 5 61 9.16 Hrs Madras [chennai now]

>

> sure other facotrs than transit will also be useful to study alongside

>

> prashant

>

> On 12/12/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote:

> >

> > Dear Balaji,Vk,Ra ja and All,

> >

> > Very good points and perspective!.

> >

> > Yes, I agree, there is much for everyone with Jupiter's transit into

> > Capricorn/Sa with conjunct Rahu.

> >

> > After I wrote my initial request for inquiry, I thought about it

some more.

> > And, realized, it would be better to open the discussion up and

delineate

> > charts, no matter where natal Jupiter was placed against transit

Jupiter and

> > any Jupiter Dashas running in 2009.

> >

> > I thought at first it would be too broad of a subject, but the

response has

> > shown that a broader perspective would be better.

> >

> > Balaji.

> > //...we should look at people who will be running MD/AD/PD of Guru

in 2009,

> > when Guru is neecha.

> >

> > IMHO, even if somebody has uccha Guru in birth chart, he/she will have

> > problems if he/she is running Guru's periods in 2009.//

> >

> > Balaji, I couldn't agree more!!

> >

> > So lets do it!

> >

> > So let's take this on a personal and global issue since both will

effect

> > everyone.

> >

> > With that in mind, I must first correct that Saturn will transit

into Virgo

> > September 10th and not in July. Also, RA/KE transit will move to

Gemini/Sag

> > November 4th and not in September. So too, Jupiter will transit out of

> > Capricorn December 20th and not January 2010.

> >

> > These corrections were made after consulting my Betz (sidereal)

Ephemeris.

> > Which does bring up a very important point. There are many differing

> > opinions out there that use their own calculations for planet

movement. This

> > could be another system used or just plain ignorance.

> >

> > So lets first see where some key movements will be in the next

year that

> > will have an effect on Jupiter's transit and the Dasha's for those

running

> > Jupiter there.

> >

> > As we have acknowledged, Jupiter's transit will mostly be in

Capricorn til

> > December 20th 2009. In that transit, another movement of Jupiter

will be

> > very important. Jupiter will take a brief jump into Aquarius May

2nd through

> > July 30th. Also, in that time frame Jupiter will retrograde June

15 through

> > July 30th and will continue its retrograde once Jupiter moves back

to Cap

> > until Oct 13th when it goes direct.

> >

> > Too, Dec 31st of 2008 we will see and start to experience the

effects of

> > Saturn retrograde. Sat's retrograde will continue through May 17th

where it

> > turns direct for the rest of 2009.

> >

> > As we know Jupiter in Capricorn is the debilitation sign for

Jupiter where

> > is has little if no strength to be his expansive lucky self or

preach his

> > favorite philosophies etc. On Jan 2nd through Jan 5th Jupiter

transit will

> > be at its most debilitative.

> >

> > Not to be discounted, there will also be the continuing effects of

the Sun

> > and Lunar eclipses of August 2008 affecting key points and the

major transit

> > of Jupiter in a chart.

> >

> > Then on Jan 26, 2009 we will see another Solar eclipse along with

a Lunar

> > eclipse two weeks later on Feb 9th.

> >

> > Again, we will see another Lunar eclipse and a Solar eclipse in

July along

> > with one more Lunar eclipse in Aug before Jupiter settles into

Aquarius Dec

> > 20th. They will occur July 7th Lunar, July 22 Solar and Lunar

August 6th.

> >

> > Finally, we mustn't forget Rahu's Retrograde and Direct motions in

2009

> > ______________________________

> >

> > Jupiter 09/Dec/08 Cap

> > Saturn® 31/Dec/08 Leo

> >

> > Rahu® 01/Jan/09

> >

> > Jupiter's debilitation 5* degree

> > 02/Jan/09 through 05/Jan/09 (3 days)

> >

> > Rahu(D) 19/Jan/09

> > Solar Eclipse 26/Jan/09

> >

> > Rahu® 08/Feb/09

> > Rahu(D) 09/Feb/09

> >

> > Lunar Eclipse 09/Feb/09

> > Rahu® 14/Feb/09

> >

> > Jupiter conjunct Rahu

> > 15/Feb/09 through 17/Feb/09 (3days)

> >

> > Jupiter 02/May/09 Aqu

> > Saturn(D) 17/May/09 Leo

> >

> > Jupiter® 15/June/09 Cap

> >

> > Lunar Eclipse 07/July/09

> > Rahu(D) 11/July/09

> > Solar Eclipse 22/July/09

> >

> > Jupiter® 30/July/09 Aqu

> > Jupiter 31/July/09 Cap

> >

> > Rahu® 03/Aug/09

> > Lunar Eclipse 06/Aug/09

> >

> > Saturn 10/Sept/09 Vi

> >

> > Jupiter(D) 13/Oct/09 Cap

> >

> > RA/KE 04/Nov/09 Ge/Sag

> >

> > Jupiter 20/Dec/09 Aqu

> >

> > ______________________________

> >

> > If Members would like to supply natal or mundane charts regarding the

> > effects of Jupiter's transit in Capricorn or it's Dashas for group

> > discussion and study, I will be more than happy to create a list

of them in

> > the file section of Jyotish-Vidya for reference.

> >

> > So far we have three charts we can begin with.

> >

> > 1. One with Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter

and Moon

> > along with transit Rahu in 7th house.

> >

> > 2. Another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjuncts natal

Jupiter in

> > second house.

> >

> > 3. And another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal

Jupiter

> >

> > Always,

> >

> > Uttara

> >

> > " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and

the truth "

> > Guatama Buddha

> >

>

February 5, 2009

Dear Uttara and All,

Taking advantage of some quiet time (on the list) I've been reading

through some of the posts from last month that I'd missed earlier due to

my preoccupation with other issues.

I'm sure everyone here is aware of the enormous financial mess the whole

world is facing at this time. I think most of us are aware that the root

cause of this dilemma has been the obscene greed of those in charge of

world finances...bankers, merchant bankers, executives, CEO's etc, etc..

I personally have had many conversations about this over the last few

years, as I'm sure many others have, and have been astounded that this

was allowed to go on unabated for so long. Such greed I don't think the

world had ever seen before!

But nature has a way of correcting such imbalances and now we have world

leaders voicing the same concerns that we (ordinary people) have been

doing for so long. No doubt the powerful lobbyists managed to assert

sufficient pressure to ensure governments turned a blind eye to this

astounding greed and mismanagement. As they say, 'Money talks', and if

you have enough of it you can even sway governments.

No doubt this current crisis came about (primarily) due to the subprime

mortgage collapse in the US which spilled over into the global credit

market. The whole world is now suffering the effects of this. I do

believe that, although this is painful now, good will come of it. The

correction had to be made and I'm sure positive change to the way the

financial institutions are managed will come about because of this

crisis...how much longer could such imbalance been allowed to go on?

Because of the major role the USA has played in this, I've been prompted

to take a look at the US chart. Not surprising to see natal Jupiter in

nakshatra of Rahu who occupies 8th bhava along with Mercury. If you study

the conjunction of planets (including 12th lord) in 7th which governs,

amongst other things; trade, commerce, relationship with all others etc.,

it's not difficult to understand the powerful relationship the US has

with the rest of the world...globalisation in effect, no doubt. Also note

the role of 'Artha' lords (acquisition of resources) in this regard i.e.

10th (artha) lord Mercury, conjunct Rahu in 8th, is dispositor of 2nd

(artha) lord whilst 6th (artha) lord Venus, in 7th, occupies nakshatra of

Rahu.

We all know the significations of worldly, hedonistic Rahu...no planet

represents more the potential for greed. Certainly with several

significant planets (MO, JU, VE) in nakshatra of Rahu we can surely see

the potential for the US to amass great wealth. We can also see this

downfall (that has spread world-wide) with Ketu transiting 8th whilst

transit Rahu joins debilitated (Tr) Jupiter in 2nd house of finances (8th

from natal Jupiter BTW)...

Much, much more to see in this chart, not forgetting the current dasa of

8th lord Moon, but I'll leave this here for now before this post gets too

lengthy to read.

PS: I trust our dear members from US can understand that this, in no way,

should be seen as a reflection on them personally. A mundane horoscope is

just that, a mundane horoscope. Each individual has their own personal

horoscope that reflects their own unique qualities :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" Uttara " <muttaraphalguni

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, December 12, 2008 6:50 AM

Re: Jupiter's Transit into Capricorn

Dear Balaji,Vk,Ra ja and All,

Very good points and perspective!.

Yes, I agree, there is much for everyone with Jupiter's transit into

Capricorn/Sa with conjunct Rahu.

After I wrote my initial request for inquiry, I thought about it some

more. And, realized, it would be better to open the discussion up and

delineate charts, no matter where natal Jupiter was placed against

transit Jupiter and any Jupiter Dashas running in 2009.

I thought at first it would be too broad of a subject, but the response

has shown that a broader perspective would be better.

Balaji.

//...we should look at people who will be running MD/AD/PD of Guru in

2009, when Guru is neecha.

IMHO, even if somebody has uccha Guru in birth chart, he/she will have

problems if he/she is running Guru's periods in 2009.//

Balaji, I couldn't agree more!!

So lets do it!

So let's take this on a personal and global issue since both will effect

everyone.

With that in mind, I must first correct that Saturn will transit into

Virgo September 10th and not in July. Also, RA/KE transit will move to

Gemini/Sag November 4th and not in September. So too, Jupiter will

transit out of Capricorn December 20th and not January 2010.

These corrections were made after consulting my Betz (sidereal)

Ephemeris. Which does bring up a very important point. There are many

differing opinions out there that use their own calculations for planet

movement. This could be another system used or just plain ignorance.

So lets first see where some key movements will be in the next year that

will have an effect on Jupiter's transit and the Dasha's for those

running Jupiter there.

As we have acknowledged, Jupiter's transit will mostly be in Capricorn

til December 20th 2009. In that transit, another movement of Jupiter

will be very important. Jupiter will take a brief jump into Aquarius May

2nd through July 30th. Also, in that time frame Jupiter will retrograde

June 15 through July 30th and will continue its retrograde once Jupiter

moves back to Cap until Oct 13th when it goes direct.

Too, Dec 31st of 2008 we will see and start to experience the effects of

Saturn retrograde. Sat's retrograde will continue through May 17th where

it turns direct for the rest of 2009.

As we know Jupiter in Capricorn is the debilitation sign for Jupiter

where is has little if no strength to be his expansive lucky self or

preach his favorite philosophies etc. On Jan 2nd through Jan 5th Jupiter

transit will be at its most debilitative.

Not to be discounted, there will also be the continuing effects of the

Sun and Lunar eclipses of August 2008 affecting key points and the major

transit of Jupiter in a chart.

Then on Jan 26, 2009 we will see another Solar eclipse along with a Lunar

eclipse two weeks later on Feb 9th.

Again, we will see another Lunar eclipse and a Solar eclipse in July

along with one more Lunar eclipse in Aug before Jupiter settles into

Aquarius Dec 20th. They will occur July 7th Lunar, July 22 Solar and

Lunar August 6th.

Finally, we mustn't forget Rahu's Retrograde and Direct motions in 2009

______________________________

Jupiter 09/Dec/08 Cap

Saturn® 31/Dec/08 Leo

Rahu® 01/Jan/09

Jupiter's debilitation 5* degree

02/Jan/09 through 05/Jan/09 (3 days)

Rahu(D) 19/Jan/09

Solar Eclipse 26/Jan/09

Rahu® 08/Feb/09

Rahu(D) 09/Feb/09

Lunar Eclipse 09/Feb/09

Rahu® 14/Feb/09

Jupiter conjunct Rahu

15/Feb/09 through 17/Feb/09 (3days)

Jupiter 02/May/09 Aqu

Saturn(D) 17/May/09 Leo

Jupiter® 15/June/09 Cap

Lunar Eclipse 07/July/09

Rahu(D) 11/July/09

Solar Eclipse 22/July/09

Jupiter® 30/July/09 Aqu

Jupiter 31/July/09 Cap

Rahu® 03/Aug/09

Lunar Eclipse 06/Aug/09

Saturn 10/Sept/09 Vi

Jupiter(D) 13/Oct/09 Cap

RA/KE 04/Nov/09 Ge/Sag

Jupiter 20/Dec/09 Aqu

______________________________

If Members would like to supply natal or mundane charts regarding the

effects of Jupiter's transit in Capricorn or it's Dashas for group

discussion and study, I will be more than happy to create a list of them

in the file section of Jyotish-Vidya for reference.

So far we have three charts we can begin with.

1. One with Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter and Moon

along with transit Rahu in 7th house.

2. Another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjuncts natal Jupiter in

second house.

3. And another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter

Always,

Uttara

" Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the

truth " Guatama Buddha

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February 5, 2009

Dear Mrs Wendy and All,

//But nature has a way of correcting such imbalances and now we have

world

leaders voicing the same concerns that we (ordinary people) have been

doing for so long.//

It seems in the USA we now have Republicans coming out of the woodwork

deciding to voice their conservatism with the new administration's

bungling of the first few weeks of appointees and other. Democratics

also are having some grave concerns. World leaders too, are not as

inamoured as they were prior to the election, as there is great concern

gobally as you have so rightfully pointed out Mrs Windy. All of this

can be explained as a transition phase but others are not so sure.

As a USA citizen I can say without a doubt that we are in for the long

haul of things getting much worse (if not complete collapse) before it

gets better. The mess is that deep and as much as President Obama wants

to implement his intent to " Change " he is unfortunately, mired in

reality now that he has taken office.

I don't mean to alarm anyone but the truth is that the country is

starting to see efforts being made to rapidly make the USA a socialistic

country dependent on the Government to control everything; not looking

out for the people as so many thought would happen AND a higher

vulnerability to being attacked again. President Obama is currently

being thought of as an idealistic president and not a reality President.

There too is a Stimulus package currently trying to get past and so far,

it hasn't because it is found that in 2009 only 3% of the Trillion

dollars would be returned or trickled down to the common person along

with only 10% in 2010. This Bill as it stands now is not a Stimulus

Bill for the American people's pocket. And in effect leaves the long

term economy in serious debt for the next two generations at best.

Saying all that, USA's economy which effects others globally is not a

Republican or Democratic mess, however, how it is dealt with by leaders

from now on, can effect the welfare of the country and its people and

globally by who is making the decisions and putting into place laws and

programs and such. And, more importantly how the USA is looked upon by

others globally - weak or strong. penterable or solid, the leder of the

free world or other.

There is great concern how the USA will fare in 2009 and early 2010.

And also how President Obama will fare.

There already is much conversation that if President Obama can not turn

the economy around in two years his reputation and effect will crumble.

Taking this into consideration his first 30 days, 100 days and first

year are of the upmost importance as to how his 4yr term will be.

A mundane chart of USA with its transits this year and 2010 along with a

parellel chart of President Obama and his transits would be a very good

study if members would like to tackle. Especially since most of 2009

has transiting Jupiter in its debilitive sign Capricorn/Sa which rules

government and authority - even though Capricorn is also known to be of

sacrifice for a cause. Rahu will also be transiting Capricorn with

Jupiter. Which, Mrs. Wendy, you brought up below some very good points

about Rahu in the mundane chart of USA in general.

Of course there continues to be disagreement as to an accurate birth

time for Obama even though here on JV it has been exhausted in previous

conversations. The current favorite of many is a 3:00am (AHST) with a

7Gem41 Lahiri Asc. It is based on his family background, his parents,

his activities through the years and his current family and marriage.

This point can be another study with transiting Jupiter and Rahu in

Capricorn if members want to study.

I beleive USA and World Leaders are all attentive because everyone is

effected and what we have all come accustomed to will forever be change

for a better future. I am looking at the USA correcting this mess by

2013/14.

I would write more and compare these charts but I apologize, I am rather

distracted by other committments at this time to give my full attention.

However I am looking to others input and assesments as time permits.

Lets not forget that February is a very volitile month this year and

Jupiter Rahu will be exact conjuct Feb 15 through Feb 17th and Mars has

also transited into Capricorn where the bulk of its transition will be

there in Feb. Transiting Sun is in Capricorn too where Rahu Jupiter Mars

are combust Sun.

As Always,

Uttara

p.s. if there are any who haven't but wish to give birth charts they

want to be listed in the study list concerning transiting Jupiter. Just

let me know and i will list them for further study this year.

jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

wrote:

>

> Dear Uttara and All,

>

> Taking advantage of some quiet time (on the list) I've been reading

> through some of the posts from last month that I'd missed earlier due

to

> my preoccupation with other issues.

>

> I'm sure everyone here is aware of the enormous financial mess the

whole

> world is facing at this time. I think most of us are aware that the

root

> cause of this dilemma has been the obscene greed of those in charge of

> world finances...bankers, merchant bankers, executives, CEO's etc,

etc..

> I personally have had many conversations about this over the last few

> years, as I'm sure many others have, and have been astounded that this

> was allowed to go on unabated for so long. Such greed I don't think

the

> world had ever seen before!

>

> But nature has a way of correcting such imbalances and now we have

world

> leaders voicing the same concerns that we (ordinary people) have been

> doing for so long. No doubt the powerful lobbyists managed to assert

> sufficient pressure to ensure governments turned a blind eye to this

> astounding greed and mismanagement. As they say, 'Money talks', and if

> you have enough of it you can even sway governments.

>

> No doubt this current crisis came about (primarily) due to the

subprime

> mortgage collapse in the US which spilled over into the global credit

> market. The whole world is now suffering the effects of this. I do

> believe that, although this is painful now, good will come of it. The

> correction had to be made and I'm sure positive change to the way the

> financial institutions are managed will come about because of this

> crisis...how much longer could such imbalance been allowed to go on?

>

> Because of the major role the USA has played in this, I've been

prompted

> to take a look at the US chart. Not surprising to see natal Jupiter in

> nakshatra of Rahu who occupies 8th bhava along with Mercury. If you

study

> the conjunction of planets (including 12th lord) in 7th which governs,

> amongst other things; trade, commerce, relationship with all others

etc.,

> it's not difficult to understand the powerful relationship the US has

> with the rest of the world...globalisation in effect, no doubt. Also

note

> the role of 'Artha' lords (acquisition of resources) in this regard

i.e.

> 10th (artha) lord Mercury, conjunct Rahu in 8th, is dispositor of 2nd

> (artha) lord whilst 6th (artha) lord Venus, in 7th, occupies nakshatra

of

> Rahu.

>

> We all know the significations of worldly, hedonistic Rahu...no planet

> represents more the potential for greed. Certainly with several

> significant planets (MO, JU, VE) in nakshatra of Rahu we can surely

see

> the potential for the US to amass great wealth. We can also see this

> downfall (that has spread world-wide) with Ketu transiting 8th whilst

> transit Rahu joins debilitated (Tr) Jupiter in 2nd house of finances

(8th

> from natal Jupiter BTW)...

>

> Much, much more to see in this chart, not forgetting the current dasa

of

> 8th lord Moon, but I'll leave this here for now before this post gets

too

> lengthy to read.

>

> PS: I trust our dear members from US can understand that this, in no

way,

> should be seen as a reflection on them personally. A mundane horoscope

is

> just that, a mundane horoscope. Each individual has their own personal

> horoscope that reflects their own unique qualities :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

> -

> " Uttara " muttaraphalguni

> jyotish-vidya

> Friday, December 12, 2008 6:50 AM

> Re: Jupiter's Transit into Capricorn

>

> Dear Balaji,Vk,Ra ja and All,

>

> Very good points and perspective!.

>

> Yes, I agree, there is much for everyone with Jupiter's transit into

> Capricorn/Sa with conjunct Rahu.

>

> After I wrote my initial request for inquiry, I thought about it some

> more. And, realized, it would be better to open the discussion up and

> delineate charts, no matter where natal Jupiter was placed against

> transit Jupiter and any Jupiter Dashas running in 2009.

>

> I thought at first it would be too broad of a subject, but the

response

> has shown that a broader perspective would be better.

>

> Balaji.

> //...we should look at people who will be running MD/AD/PD of Guru in

> 2009, when Guru is neecha.

>

> IMHO, even if somebody has uccha Guru in birth chart, he/she will have

> problems if he/she is running Guru's periods in 2009.//

>

> Balaji, I couldn't agree more!!

>

> So lets do it!

>

> So let's take this on a personal and global issue since both will

effect

> everyone.

>

> With that in mind, I must first correct that Saturn will transit into

> Virgo September 10th and not in July. Also, RA/KE transit will move

to

> Gemini/Sag November 4th and not in September. So too, Jupiter will

> transit out of Capricorn December 20th and not January 2010.

>

> These corrections were made after consulting my Betz (sidereal)

> Ephemeris. Which does bring up a very important point. There are many

> differing opinions out there that use their own calculations for

planet

> movement. This could be another system used or just plain ignorance.

>

> So lets first see where some key movements will be in the next year

that

> will have an effect on Jupiter's transit and the Dasha's for those

> running Jupiter there.

>

> As we have acknowledged, Jupiter's transit will mostly be in Capricorn

> til December 20th 2009. In that transit, another movement of Jupiter

> will be very important. Jupiter will take a brief jump into Aquarius

May

> 2nd through July 30th. Also, in that time frame Jupiter will

retrograde

> June 15 through July 30th and will continue its retrograde once

Jupiter

> moves back to Cap until Oct 13th when it goes direct.

>

> Too, Dec 31st of 2008 we will see and start to experience the effects

of

> Saturn retrograde. Sat's retrograde will continue through May 17th

where

> it turns direct for the rest of 2009.

>

> As we know Jupiter in Capricorn is the debilitation sign for Jupiter

> where is has little if no strength to be his expansive lucky self or

> preach his favorite philosophies etc. On Jan 2nd through Jan 5th

Jupiter

> transit will be at its most debilitative.

>

> Not to be discounted, there will also be the continuing effects of the

> Sun and Lunar eclipses of August 2008 affecting key points and the

major

> transit of Jupiter in a chart.

>

> Then on Jan 26, 2009 we will see another Solar eclipse along with a

Lunar

> eclipse two weeks later on Feb 9th.

>

> Again, we will see another Lunar eclipse and a Solar eclipse in July

> along with one more Lunar eclipse in Aug before Jupiter settles into

> Aquarius Dec 20th. They will occur July 7th Lunar, July 22 Solar and

> Lunar August 6th.

>

> Finally, we mustn't forget Rahu's Retrograde and Direct motions in

2009

> ______________________________

>

> Jupiter 09/Dec/08 Cap

> Saturn® 31/Dec/08 Leo

>

> Rahu® 01/Jan/09

>

> Jupiter's debilitation 5* degree

> 02/Jan/09 through 05/Jan/09 (3 days)

>

> Rahu(D) 19/Jan/09

> Solar Eclipse 26/Jan/09

>

> Rahu® 08/Feb/09

> Rahu(D) 09/Feb/09

>

> Lunar Eclipse 09/Feb/09

> Rahu® 14/Feb/09

>

> Jupiter conjunct Rahu

> 15/Feb/09 through 17/Feb/09 (3days)

>

> Jupiter 02/May/09 Aqu

> Saturn(D) 17/May/09 Leo

>

> Jupiter® 15/June/09 Cap

>

> Lunar Eclipse 07/July/09

> Rahu(D) 11/July/09

> Solar Eclipse 22/July/09

>

> Jupiter® 30/July/09 Aqu

> Jupiter 31/July/09 Cap

>

> Rahu® 03/Aug/09

> Lunar Eclipse 06/Aug/09

>

> Saturn 10/Sept/09 Vi

>

> Jupiter(D) 13/Oct/09 Cap

>

> RA/KE 04/Nov/09 Ge/Sag

>

> Jupiter 20/Dec/09 Aqu

>

> ______________________________

>

> If Members would like to supply natal or mundane charts regarding the

> effects of Jupiter's transit in Capricorn or it's Dashas for group

> discussion and study, I will be more than happy to create a list of

them

> in the file section of Jyotish-Vidya for reference.

>

> So far we have three charts we can begin with.

>

> 1. One with Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter and

Moon

> along with transit Rahu in 7th house.

>

> 2. Another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjuncts natal Jupiter

in

> second house.

>

> 3. And another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal

Jupiter

>

> Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the

> truth " Guatama Buddha

>

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P.S. Rahu is not combust

jyotish-vidya , " muttaraphalguni "

<muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> Dear Mrs Wendy and All,

>

> //But nature has a way of correcting such imbalances and now we have

> world

> leaders voicing the same concerns that we (ordinary people) have been

> doing for so long.//

>

> It seems in the USA we now have Republicans coming out of the woodwork

> deciding to voice their conservatism with the new administration's

> bungling of the first few weeks of appointees and other. Democratics

> also are having some grave concerns. World leaders too, are not as

> inamoured as they were prior to the election, as there is great

concern

> gobally as you have so rightfully pointed out Mrs Windy. All of this

> can be explained as a transition phase but others are not so sure.

>

> As a USA citizen I can say without a doubt that we are in for the long

> haul of things getting much worse (if not complete collapse) before it

> gets better. The mess is that deep and as much as President Obama

wants

> to implement his intent to " Change " he is unfortunately, mired in

> reality now that he has taken office.

>

> I don't mean to alarm anyone but the truth is that the country is

> starting to see efforts being made to rapidly make the USA a

socialistic

> country dependent on the Government to control everything; not looking

> out for the people as so many thought would happen AND a higher

> vulnerability to being attacked again. President Obama is currently

> being thought of as an idealistic president and not a reality

President.

> There too is a Stimulus package currently trying to get past and so

far,

> it hasn't because it is found that in 2009 only 3% of the Trillion

> dollars would be returned or trickled down to the common person along

> with only 10% in 2010. This Bill as it stands now is not a Stimulus

> Bill for the American people's pocket. And in effect leaves the long

> term economy in serious debt for the next two generations at best.

>

> Saying all that, USA's economy which effects others globally is not a

> Republican or Democratic mess, however, how it is dealt with by

leaders

> from now on, can effect the welfare of the country and its people and

> globally by who is making the decisions and putting into place laws

and

> programs and such. And, more importantly how the USA is looked upon by

> others globally - weak or strong. penterable or solid, the leder of

the

> free world or other.

>

> There is great concern how the USA will fare in 2009 and early 2010.

> And also how President Obama will fare.

>

> There already is much conversation that if President Obama can not

turn

> the economy around in two years his reputation and effect will

crumble.

> Taking this into consideration his first 30 days, 100 days and first

> year are of the upmost importance as to how his 4yr term will be.

>

> A mundane chart of USA with its transits this year and 2010 along with

a

> parellel chart of President Obama and his transits would be a very

good

> study if members would like to tackle. Especially since most of 2009

> has transiting Jupiter in its debilitive sign Capricorn/Sa which

rules

> government and authority - even though Capricorn is also known to be

of

> sacrifice for a cause. Rahu will also be transiting Capricorn with

> Jupiter. Which, Mrs. Wendy, you brought up below some very good

points

> about Rahu in the mundane chart of USA in general.

>

> Of course there continues to be disagreement as to an accurate birth

> time for Obama even though here on JV it has been exhausted in

> 7Gem41 Lahiri Asc. It is based on his family background, his parents,

> his activities through the years and his current family and marriage.

> This point can be another study with transiting Jupiter and Rahu in

> Capricorn if members want to study.

>

> I beleive USA and World Leaders are all attentive because everyone is

> effected and what we have all come accustomed to will forever be

change

> for a better future. I am looking at the USA correcting this mess by

> 2013/14.

>

> I would write more and compare these charts but I apologize, I am

rather

> distracted by other committments at this time to give my full

attention.

> However I am looking to others input and assesments as time permits.

>

> Lets not forget that February is a very volitile month this year and

> Jupiter Rahu will be exact conjuct Feb 15 through Feb 17th and Mars

has

> also transited into Capricorn where the bulk of its transition will be

> there in Feb. Transiting Sun is in Capricorn too where Rahu Jupiter

Mars

> are combust Sun.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> p.s. if there are any who haven't but wish to give birth charts they

> want to be listed in the study list concerning transiting Jupiter.

Just

> let me know and i will list them for further study this year.

>

jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " jyotishvidya@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Uttara and All,

> >

> > Taking advantage of some quiet time (on the list) I've been reading

> > through some of the posts from last month that I'd missed earlier

due

> to

> > my preoccupation with other issues.

> >

> > I'm sure everyone here is aware of the enormous financial mess the

> whole

> > world is facing at this time. I think most of us are aware that the

> root

> > cause of this dilemma has been the obscene greed of those in charge

of

> > world finances...bankers, merchant bankers, executives, CEO's etc,

> etc..

> > I personally have had many conversations about this over the last

few

> > years, as I'm sure many others have, and have been astounded that

this

> > was allowed to go on unabated for so long. Such greed I don't think

> the

> > world had ever seen before!

> >

> > But nature has a way of correcting such imbalances and now we have

> world

> > leaders voicing the same concerns that we (ordinary people) have

been

> > doing for so long. No doubt the powerful lobbyists managed to assert

> > sufficient pressure to ensure governments turned a blind eye to this

> > astounding greed and mismanagement. As they say, 'Money talks', and

if

> > you have enough of it you can even sway governments.

> >

> > No doubt this current crisis came about (primarily) due to the

> subprime

> > mortgage collapse in the US which spilled over into the global

credit

> > market. The whole world is now suffering the effects of this. I do

> > believe that, although this is painful now, good will come of it.

The

> > correction had to be made and I'm sure positive change to the way

the

> > financial institutions are managed will come about because of this

> > crisis...how much longer could such imbalance been allowed to go on?

> >

> > Because of the major role the USA has played in this, I've been

> prompted

> > to take a look at the US chart. Not surprising to see natal Jupiter

in

> > nakshatra of Rahu who occupies 8th bhava along with Mercury. If you

> study

> > the conjunction of planets (including 12th lord) in 7th which

governs,

> > amongst other things; trade, commerce, relationship with all others

> etc.,

> > it's not difficult to understand the powerful relationship the US

has

> > with the rest of the world...globalisation in effect, no doubt. Also

> note

> > the role of 'Artha' lords (acquisition of resources) in this regard

> i.e.

> > 10th (artha) lord Mercury, conjunct Rahu in 8th, is dispositor of

2nd

> > (artha) lord whilst 6th (artha) lord Venus, in 7th, occupies

nakshatra

> of

> > Rahu.

> >

> > We all know the significations of worldly, hedonistic Rahu...no

planet

> > represents more the potential for greed. Certainly with several

> > significant planets (MO, JU, VE) in nakshatra of Rahu we can surely

> see

> > the potential for the US to amass great wealth. We can also see this

> > downfall (that has spread world-wide) with Ketu transiting 8th

whilst

> > transit Rahu joins debilitated (Tr) Jupiter in 2nd house of finances

> (8th

> > from natal Jupiter BTW)...

> >

> > Much, much more to see in this chart, not forgetting the current

dasa

> of

> > 8th lord Moon, but I'll leave this here for now before this post

gets

> too

> > lengthy to read.

> >

> > PS: I trust our dear members from US can understand that this, in no

> way,

> > should be seen as a reflection on them personally. A mundane

horoscope

> is

> > just that, a mundane horoscope. Each individual has their own

personal

> > horoscope that reflects their own unique qualities :-)

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ___

> >

> > -

> > " Uttara " muttaraphalguni@

> > jyotish-vidya

> > Friday, December 12, 2008 6:50 AM

> > Re: Jupiter's Transit into Capricorn

> >

> > Dear Balaji,Vk,Ra ja and All,

> >

> > Very good points and perspective!.

> >

> > Yes, I agree, there is much for everyone with Jupiter's transit into

> > Capricorn/Sa with conjunct Rahu.

> >

> > After I wrote my initial request for inquiry, I thought about it

some

> > more. And, realized, it would be better to open the discussion up

and

> > delineate charts, no matter where natal Jupiter was placed against

> > transit Jupiter and any Jupiter Dashas running in 2009.

> >

> > I thought at first it would be too broad of a subject, but the

> response

> > has shown that a broader perspective would be better.

> >

> > Balaji.

> > //...we should look at people who will be running MD/AD/PD of Guru

in

> > 2009, when Guru is neecha.

> >

> > IMHO, even if somebody has uccha Guru in birth chart, he/she will

have

> > problems if he/she is running Guru's periods in 2009.//

> >

> > Balaji, I couldn't agree more!!

> >

> > So lets do it!

> >

> > So let's take this on a personal and global issue since both will

> effect

> > everyone.

> >

> > With that in mind, I must first correct that Saturn will transit

into

> > Virgo September 10th and not in July. Also, RA/KE transit will move

> to

> > Gemini/Sag November 4th and not in September. So too, Jupiter will

> > transit out of Capricorn December 20th and not January 2010.

> >

> > These corrections were made after consulting my Betz (sidereal)

> > Ephemeris. Which does bring up a very important point. There are

many

> > differing opinions out there that use their own calculations for

> planet

> > movement. This could be another system used or just plain ignorance.

> >

> > So lets first see where some key movements will be in the next year

> that

> > will have an effect on Jupiter's transit and the Dasha's for those

> > running Jupiter there.

> >

> > As we have acknowledged, Jupiter's transit will mostly be in

Capricorn

> > til December 20th 2009. In that transit, another movement of

Jupiter

> > will be very important. Jupiter will take a brief jump into

Aquarius

> May

> > 2nd through July 30th. Also, in that time frame Jupiter will

> retrograde

> > June 15 through July 30th and will continue its retrograde once

> Jupiter

> > moves back to Cap until Oct 13th when it goes direct.

> >

> > Too, Dec 31st of 2008 we will see and start to experience the

effects

> of

> > Saturn retrograde. Sat's retrograde will continue through May 17th

> where

> > it turns direct for the rest of 2009.

> >

> > As we know Jupiter in Capricorn is the debilitation sign for Jupiter

> > where is has little if no strength to be his expansive lucky self or

> > preach his favorite philosophies etc. On Jan 2nd through Jan 5th

> Jupiter

> > transit will be at its most debilitative.

> >

> > Not to be discounted, there will also be the continuing effects of

the

> > Sun and Lunar eclipses of August 2008 affecting key points and the

> major

> > transit of Jupiter in a chart.

> >

> > Then on Jan 26, 2009 we will see another Solar eclipse along with a

> Lunar

> > eclipse two weeks later on Feb 9th.

> >

> > Again, we will see another Lunar eclipse and a Solar eclipse in July

> > along with one more Lunar eclipse in Aug before Jupiter settles into

> > Aquarius Dec 20th. They will occur July 7th Lunar, July 22 Solar and

> > Lunar August 6th.

> >

> > Finally, we mustn't forget Rahu's Retrograde and Direct motions in

> 2009

> > ______________________________

> >

> > Jupiter 09/Dec/08 Cap

> > Saturn® 31/Dec/08 Leo

> >

> > Rahu® 01/Jan/09

> >

> > Jupiter's debilitation 5* degree

> > 02/Jan/09 through 05/Jan/09 (3 days)

> >

> > Rahu(D) 19/Jan/09

> > Solar Eclipse 26/Jan/09

> >

> > Rahu® 08/Feb/09

> > Rahu(D) 09/Feb/09

> >

> > Lunar Eclipse 09/Feb/09

> > Rahu® 14/Feb/09

> >

> > Jupiter conjunct Rahu

> > 15/Feb/09 through 17/Feb/09 (3days)

> >

> > Jupiter 02/May/09 Aqu

> > Saturn(D) 17/May/09 Leo

> >

> > Jupiter® 15/June/09 Cap

> >

> > Lunar Eclipse 07/July/09

> > Rahu(D) 11/July/09

> > Solar Eclipse 22/July/09

> >

> > Jupiter® 30/July/09 Aqu

> > Jupiter 31/July/09 Cap

> >

> > Rahu® 03/Aug/09

> > Lunar Eclipse 06/Aug/09

> >

> > Saturn 10/Sept/09 Vi

> >

> > Jupiter(D) 13/Oct/09 Cap

> >

> > RA/KE 04/Nov/09 Ge/Sag

> >

> > Jupiter 20/Dec/09 Aqu

> >

> > ______________________________

> >

> > If Members would like to supply natal or mundane charts regarding

the

> > effects of Jupiter's transit in Capricorn or it's Dashas for group

> > discussion and study, I will be more than happy to create a list of

> them

> > in the file section of Jyotish-Vidya for reference.

> >

> > So far we have three charts we can begin with.

> >

> > 1. One with Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal Jupiter and

> Moon

> > along with transit Rahu in 7th house.

> >

> > 2. Another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjuncts natal

Jupiter

> in

> > second house.

> >

> > 3. And another where Jupiter transit in Capricorn conjunct natal

> Jupiter

> >

> > Always,

> >

> > Uttara

> >

> > " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the

> > truth " Guatama Buddha

> >

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February 5, 2009

Dear Uttara,

///Of course there continues to be disagreement as to an accurate birth

time for Obama even though here on JV it has been exhausted in previous

conversations. The current favorite of many is a 3:00am (AHST) with a

7Gem41 Lahiri Asc. It is based on his family background, his parents,

his activities through the years and his current family and marriage.

This point can be another study with transiting Jupiter and Rahu in

Capricorn if members want to study.///

To date I've not seen anyone put forward their assessment of alternative

lagnas whether it be Libra (as seemed to favour) or, as you

now mention, Gemini lagna seems also to be in vogue. It's one thing to

state a preference, it's quite another to back that up with sound

astrological argument. I did invite Gaurav to give his reasons why he

favoured Libra, but so far there has been no response from him. It seems

to me that some who came to JV recently have done so only out of

curiosity and have no intention of participating in any discussion.

///A mundane chart of USA with its transits this year and 2010 along with

a

parellel chart of President Obama and his transits would be a very good

study if members would like to tackle.///

It's first necessary to have a consensus regarding the authenticity of

Obama's horoscope, which can only be achieved by verifying known events

in his life. I'm sure (long-standing) members will recall that I

rectified Obama's chart, giving Capricorn lagna, long before any

certificate of birth was posted on his website. This was based purely on

sound astrological principles, not on any popular (unfounded) conspiracy

theories.

As I said previously, I'm yet to see any solid (astrological) argument

put forward by any of these people advocating alternative lagnas. I can

only assume that either they don't have a sound argument to put forward,

or they're here only out of idle curiosity and have no intention

whatsoever of contributing to any discussion.

This debilitation of Jupiter (conjunct Rahu) can be seen in many ways.

Not only is he the significator of wealth, he also (most importantly)

signifies such things as honour, merit, virtue, truthfulness, morality,

sincerity, ethics, righteousness, compassion, wisdom, true knowledge

etc.. There can be little doubt that these qualities seem to be very much

on the decline of late.

As we know, Jupiter (devoid of strength) conjunct Rahu gives rise to

Guru-Chandala Yoga. We see this yoga formed in transit from Dec. 2008 (if

I'm not mistaken). You can see more on this here

http://jyotishvidya.com/rahu.htm

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

<muttaraphalguni

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, February 06, 2009 7:31 AM