No Marriage

June 5, 2006

Hi Dadhi,

Some facts that are visible are that, Sa, FK for marriage is in 6th

house. Ve is heavily combust. Ju is with Ve. 7th sign is dwiswabhav

rasi and ve has more AV points than me. May indicate more than one

relations.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " Dadhi " <dadhi

wrote:

>

> Dear members,

>

> If some of you have time, please look at this chart (female)...

>

> Lady

> DOB: 30. August 1971

> TOB: 15:15

> POB: 15E30, 45N30 ... +1 (Europe)

>

> ...and help me to see why there is no marriage till now.

>

> thank you.

>

> all the best,

> Dadhi

>

June 5, 2006

Dear Dadhi,

Manu has given u good lead. See planets SD to 6th lord Venus,

status of Venus to sun and at same time points of 5th house.

You can verify if this lady has some issues with her reproductory

organs.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura wrote:

>

> Hi Dadhi,

>

> Some facts that are visible are that, Sa, FK for marriage is in 6th

> house. Ve is heavily combust. Ju is with Ve. 7th sign is dwiswabhav

> rasi and ve has more AV points than me. May indicate more than one

> relations.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , " Dadhi " <dadhi@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > If some of you have time, please look at this chart (female)...

> >

> > Lady

> > DOB: 30. August 1971

> > TOB: 15:15

> > POB: 15E30, 45N30 ... +1 (Europe)

> >

> > ...and help me to see why there is no marriage till now.

> >

> > thank you.

> >

> > all the best,

> > Dadhi

> >

June 7, 2006

Dear Ash, Manu and other members...

That's what made me confused - lady does not have problem with reproductory

organs neither more relations. Strange, but till now if there would be some

atraction between her and some man, it would break practically at the very

beggining. And there were only 2 man till now.

Do you think that she cna marry at all?

all the best,

Dadhi

> Dear Dadhi,

> Manu has given u good lead. See planets SD to 6th lord Venus,

> status of Venus to sun and at same time points of 5th house.

> You can verify if this lady has some issues with her reproductory

> organs.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura wrote:

> >

> > Hi Dadhi,

> >

> > Some facts that are visible are that, Sa, FK for marriage is in 6th

> > house. Ve is heavily combust. Ju is with Ve. 7th sign is dwiswabhav

> > rasi and ve has more AV points than me. May indicate more than one

> > relations.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

June 7, 2006

Dear Dadhi,

Has this lady had any miscarriage during the time she was in a

relation with 2 men.

Yes, why has no relations lasted long.

What is the meaning of SD to 6th lord.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Dadhi " <dadhi

wrote:

>

> Dear Ash, Manu and other members...

>

> That's what made me confused - lady does not have problem with

reproductory organs neither more relations. Strange, but till now if

there would be some atraction between her and some man, it would

break practically at the very beggining. And there were only 2 man

till now.

>

> Do you think that she cna marry at all?

>

> all the best,

> Dadhi

>

> > Dear Dadhi,

> > Manu has given u good lead. See planets SD to 6th lord Venus,

> > status of Venus to sun and at same time points of 5th house.

> > You can verify if this lady has some issues with her reproductory

> > organs.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Dadhi,

> > >

> > > Some facts that are visible are that, Sa, FK for marriage is

in 6th

> > > house. Ve is heavily combust. Ju is with Ve. 7th sign is

dwiswabhav

> > > rasi and ve has more AV points than me. May indicate more than

one

> > > relations.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

>

June 8, 2006

> Has this lady had any miscarriage during the time she was in a

> relation with 2 men.

The fact is that lady is still a virgin. She never has any phisical contact with

a man. When I wrote relationship, it meant she came in contact with a person she

likes and they were like friends for some time (few months) and then things

would fall apart - she realized that persons are not so sincere or whatever...

So, maybe we should not call it relationship at all...

> Yes, why has no relations lasted long.

> What is the meaning of SD to 6th lord.

I am aware of it, but in some charts there is still a marriage. I wonder, does

it mean no marriage at all in this case?

all the best,

Dadhi

June 8, 2006

Dear Ash,Dadhi, Manu and all,

I got the asc as 8 Sg 31.This has somewhat similarity with the

chart as I posted you.The native is still unmarried due to the

following reasons.

1.The FK sa is in 6th house and FK Ve is swallowed by Su thus lost

its strength of karkatwa.

2.LoB and 12th lord from house B are together in 9th house of dharma.

In Indian culture marriage is a dharma which is done at the

appropriate time.The lord of dharma is Su.

3.The 9th house is aspected by Mars whose aspect on 9th house and

planets therein is malefic. Ra also spoils the karaka sthaan.

4.FK and NK both are in 4:10 relationship with equal strength of 5

bindus.

5.In ws Ma is weak in 2nd, 5th and 9th house.

6.Gemini is the navamsa lagna of house B in rasi and occupied by Ma

as 6th lord.Therefore in this chart also Ma as 6th lord is involved

with somehow all significating houses of marriage.

I think these may be the reason for no marriage.Members may throw

light with their experiences and findings.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " Dadhi " <dadhi

wrote:

>

> Dear members,

>

> If some of you have time, please look at this chart (female)...

>

> Lady

> DOB: 30. August 1971

> TOB: 15:15

> POB: 15E30, 45N30 ... +1 (Europe)

>

> ...and help me to see why there is no marriage till now.

>

> thank you.

>

> all the best,

> Dadhi

>

June 8, 2006

Dear Ash,Dadhi, Manu and all,

I got the asc as 8 Sg 31.This has somewhat similarity with the

chart as I posted you.The native is still unmarried due to the

following reasons.

1.The FK sa is in 6th house and FK Ve is swallowed by Su thus lost

its strength of karkatwa.

2.LoB and 12th lord from house B are together in 9th house of dharma.

In Indian culture marriage is a dharma which is done at the

appropriate time.The lord of dharma is Su.

3.The 9th house is aspected by Mars whose aspect on 9th house and

planets therein is malefic. Ra also spoils the karaka sthaan.

4.FK and NK both are in 4:10 relationship with equal strength of 5

bindus.

5.In ws Ma is weak in 2nd, 5th and 9th house.

6.Gemini is the navamsa lagna of house B in rasi and occupied by Ma

as 6th lord.Therefore in this chart also Ma as 6th lord is involved

with somehow all significating houses of marriage.

I think these may be the reason for no marriage.Members may throw

light with their experiences and findings.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " Dadhi " <dadhi

wrote:

>

> Dear members,

>

> If some of you have time, please look at this chart (female)...

>

> Lady

> DOB: 30. August 1971

> TOB: 15:15

> POB: 15E30, 45N30 ... +1 (Europe)

>

> ...and help me to see why there is no marriage till now.

>

> thank you.

>

> all the best,

> Dadhi

>

June 8, 2006

Dear Dadhi,

Thanks for your feedback.

Lets go back to basics and our basic laws from lesson.

1) Ve to Sun < 3deg20 and here its 0.8

2) Mostly all points are low for 5th house and only Ju is strong for

5th but that is weak for 12th.

This chart is that from West. If she is not married or in a

relationship, its quite evident that she is not letting anyone come

close. Ve is too close to sun and 5th house is shut or say no power

in it.

Yes, if she listens to some senior person like guru / father then

she might be able to get married. However that being said, and

marriage lasting or a satisfying married life, I am not sure, unless

she listens to her guru/teacher or father or someone senior who she

treats with respect.

Cheers !!1

Ash

, " Dadhi " <dadhi

wrote:

>

> > Has this lady had any miscarriage during the time she was in a

> > relation with 2 men.

>

> The fact is that lady is still a virgin. She never has any

phisical contact with a man. When I wrote relationship, it meant she

came in contact with a person she likes and they were like friends

for some time (few months) and then things would fall apart - she

realized that persons are not so sincere or whatever...

>

> So, maybe we should not call it relationship at all...

>

> > Yes, why has no relations lasted long.

> > What is the meaning of SD to 6th lord.

>

> I am aware of it, but in some charts there is still a marriage. I

wonder, does it mean no marriage at all in this case?

>

> all the best,

> Dadhi

>

June 8, 2006

On 6/8/06, aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Friends,

> May I present my analysis.?

>

Moon is the Vimshottari Dasanatha.He is the lord of the eigth

house.Thereare two retrograde malefics situated in Capricorn.?So,Moon

is

constrained.Retrogression of Mars weakens him.?

Mars in two to Moon and Janma Lagnam,is Kuja Dosham.Rahu acts as the lord of

the second house.?Retro Rahu ,let us assume that he is posited in

Dhanus,afflicts Jupiter who aspects Saturn who is the lord of the second

house.

Mercury ,the seventh lord is the Badhakadhipathy.He is retro towards the

eigth house where Ketu is seated.

Mercury is the lord of the seventh both from Janmalagnam and Chandra

Lagnam.The seveth house from Lagnam and Chandralagnam are vacant.This is an

adverse situation.

The Kalatra Karaka Venus is combust.This too is unwelcome.

Mars who is the Karaka for husband as per Bhrigu is afflicted.Mars in

Saturns sign causes the tendency to keep away from marriage and sex.

Moon Dasa ,Rahu bhukthi is in progress between 25-11-2005 and 24-5-2007.

Jupiters bhukthi may give wedding.His sign dispositor is

eaxlted.Jupitertransits to Vrischikam in the middle of october,

2006.Transit Saturn contacts natal Mars in Nov.,2006.

Jupiter aspects UL ,own sign.He is in the nineth fromUL.The second lord from

the UL is Mars and he is exalted.Pisces Narayana dasa goes on from 30-8-2004

to 30-8-2008.

The indications for getting wedded are not strong.

Regards,

Jagannathan.

> Dear Ash,Dadhi, Manu and all,

> I got the asc as 8 Sg 31.This has somewhat similarity with the

> chart as I posted you.The native is still unmarried due to the

> following reasons.

> 1.The FK sa is in 6th house and FK Ve is swallowed by Su thus lost

> its strength of karkatwa.

> 2.LoB and 12th lord from house B are together in 9th house of dharma.

> In Indian culture marriage is a dharma which is done at the

> appropriate time.The lord of dharma is Su.

> 3.The 9th house is aspected by Mars whose aspect on 9th house and

> planets therein is malefic. Ra also spoils the karaka sthaan.

> 4.FK <http://4.fk/> and NK both are in 4:10 relationship with equal

> strength of 5

> bindus.

> 5.In ws Ma is weak in 2nd, 5th and 9th house.

> 6.Gemini is the navamsa lagna of house B in rasi and occupied by Ma

> as 6th lord.Therefore in this chart also Ma as 6th lord is involved

> with somehow all significating houses of marriage.

> I think these may be the reason for no marriage.Members may throw

> light with their experiences and findings.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> " Dadhi " <dadhi

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > If some of you have time, please look at this chart (female)...

> >

> > Lady

> > DOB: 30. August 1971

> > TOB: 15:15

> > POB: 15E30, 45N30 ... +1 (Europe)

> >

> > ...and help me to see why there is no marriage till now.

> >

> > thank you.

> >

> > all the best,

> > Dadhi

> >

October 30, 2008

Dear Members:

I've made an interesting observation

dec 19, 1965 at 4am in Nairobi Kenya

This native never married. She is an Indian woman - so it is unusual.

Additionally her 7th House lord is Exalted in the 4th conjunct the 1st

Lord Venus. There is no obvious malefic affect on Mars.

How then is it that she did not marry?

Observations to bear in mind:

- Mars is at a peculiar degree in Capricorn: 3.20, this is peculiar

because it places hi on the 0.00 degree of the Aquarius navamsha and

thus denies him of any and all strength in the Navasmsha (at least via

any Avastha consideration), which is a particularly relevant chart for

marriage.

- His conjunction with Venus is with the lord of the 1st who is also

the lord of the 8th. Therefore Venus, unlikely as I admit it seems,

may deny a husband with this placement. However I think this

consideration is not very strong on it's own without the above

navamsha consideration.

Do you see anything else indicating lack of marriage?

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara.com

www.vedicastrologer.net

October 31, 2008

Dear Vic.,

In the chart,2nd house which is also called as Kutumba Sthana or family

house,we find Budha or Mercury along with Ketu ( Dragon's tail ) who is

exalted.Ketu is a planet of Moksha Karaka ( significator for emancipation

)and so is a planet of obstruction for marital issues.So Mercury is very

weak.Also both planets are in the Nakshatra of Anuradha ruled by Saturn who

is placed in 5th from Ascendant which is his Moola Trikona place but is 11th

from 7th house which is called as Badhaka Sthana or place.Eventhough Mars is

exalted he is considered powerless due to Ketu ( Dragon's Tail) is placed in

Scorpio sign which is the own house of Mars.So Ketu became strong and Mars

weak.Now 11th house for marital purposes is called as house of gains and is

occupied by Mandi( Son of Saturn ) which is aspected by powerful Saturn.This

indicates Preta Shaapa ( curse of ancestors).So considering all these,the

lady did not get a chance to get married.

I hope this helps.

With Regards,

Ramadas Rao.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

> Dear Members:

>

> I've made an interesting observation

>

> dec 19, 1965 at 4am in Nairobi Kenya

>

> This native never married. She is an Indian woman - so it is unusual.

> Additionally her 7th House lord is Exalted in the 4th conjunct the 1st

> Lord Venus. There is no obvious malefic affect on Mars.

>

> How then is it that she did not marry?

>

> Observations to bear in mind:

>

> - Mars is at a peculiar degree in Capricorn: 3.20, this is peculiar

> because it places hi on the 0.00 degree of the Aquarius navamsha and

> thus denies him of any and all strength in the Navasmsha (at least via

> any Avastha consideration), which is a particularly relevant chart for

> marriage.

>

> - His conjunction with Venus is with the lord of the 1st who is also

> the lord of the 8th. Therefore Venus, unlikely as I admit it seems,

> may deny a husband with this placement. However I think this

> consideration is not very strong on it's own without the above

> navamsha consideration.

>

> Do you see anything else indicating lack of marriage?

>

> ~~~ Vic DiCara

>

> www.vicdicara.com

>

> www.vedicastrologer.net

>

--

Ramadas Rao.

October 31, 2008

Dear Vic,

Your observation that 7L Mars is in the navamsha sandhi looks very valid.Â It

is important to look at both Jupiter and Venus as well when considering

marriage.

1. I would like to highlight is the Jupiter is retrograde, note that he is also

7L in navamsha, thus posing obstacles and causing delays. I am not saying this

will by itself denay marriage, but it could could put spanner in the works.

2. Venus occupies 12th sign in navamsha. Generally this denies happy married

life. Even if a person marries, will not enjoy the furits of the marriage.

Regards,

Krishna

--- On Fri, 31/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

Vic D <vicdicara

No Marriage

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 31 October, 2008, 1:57 AM

Dear Members:

I've made an interesting observation

dec 19, 1965 at 4am in Nairobi Kenya

This native never married. She is an Indian woman - so it is unusual.

Additionally her 7th House lord is Exalted in the 4th conjunct the 1st

Lord Venus. There is no obvious malefic affect on Mars.

How then is it that she did not marry?

Observations to bear in mind:

- Mars is at a peculiar degree in Capricorn: 3.20, this is peculiar

because it places hi on the 0.00 degree of the Aquarius navamsha and

thus denies him of any and all strength in the Navasmsha (at least via

any Avastha consideration) , which is a particularly relevant chart for

marriage.

- His conjunction with Venus is with the lord of the 1st who is also

the lord of the 8th. Therefore Venus, unlikely as I admit it seems,

may deny a husband with this placement. However I think this

consideration is not very strong on it's own without the above

navamsha consideration.

Do you see anything else indicating lack of marriage?

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara. com

www.vedicastrologer .net

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October 31, 2008

Dear Vic, Krishna and All,

First: Lagna lord (VE) and 7th lord (MA), normally neutral, are temporary

enemies in this chart.

Second: Their dispositor (SA), planet of delay/restriction and (yes)

denial, if supported by other factors, aspects 7th house of marriage.

Third: 7th lord (MA), aspecting 7th is dispositor of both 12th lord

Mercury and Ketu...planet of hindrance/obstruction.

It's important also to consider 10th house in relation to a woman's

status. Marriage traditionally indicates a major change in status for a

woman...from Miss to Mrs and, of course, a change of name. What does 10th

lord Moon in lagna say about this? Observe Moon's nakshatra lord (Rahu)

in 8th who himself occupies nakshatra of Moon.

Others may care to comment on these factors.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, October 31, 2008 4:09 PM

Re: No Marriage

Dear Vic,

Your observation that 7L Mars is in the navamsha sandhi looks very valid.

It is important to look at both Jupiter and Venus as well when

considering marriage.

1. I would like to highlight is the Jupiter is retrograde, note that he

is also 7L in navamsha, thus posing obstacles and causing delays. I am

not saying this will by itself denay marriage, but it could could put

spanner in the works.

2. Venus occupies 12th sign in navamsha. Generally this denies happy

married life. Even if a person marries, will not enjoy the furits of the

marriage.

Regards,

Krishna

--- On Fri, 31/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

Vic D <vicdicara

No Marriage

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 31 October, 2008, 1:57 AM

Dear Members:

I've made an interesting observation

dec 19, 1965 at 4am in Nairobi Kenya

This native never married. She is an Indian woman - so it is unusual.

Additionally her 7th House lord is Exalted in the 4th conjunct the 1st

Lord Venus. There is no obvious malefic affect on Mars.

How then is it that she did not marry?

Observations to bear in mind:

- Mars is at a peculiar degree in Capricorn: 3.20, this is peculiar

because it places hi on the 0.00 degree of the Aquarius navamsha and

thus denies him of any and all strength in the Navasmsha (at least via

any Avastha consideration) , which is a particularly relevant chart for

marriage.

- His conjunction with Venus is with the lord of the 1st who is also

the lord of the 8th. Therefore Venus, unlikely as I admit it seems,

may deny a husband with this placement. However I think this

consideration is not very strong on it's own without the above

navamsha consideration.

Do you see anything else indicating lack of marriage?

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara. com

www.vedicastrologer .net

October 31, 2008

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

I would like to write the following few lines on this chart.

1. The Seventh Lord Mars and Karaka for marriage under papakartari.

2. The same argument holds good from Moon Lagna too.

3. From the Venus, the 8th Lord Sun is in the house of bed

pleasures.

4. In D-9, Saturn the 8th Lord is in the 10th house of status of

marriage who influences the house of happiness of marriage and the

house of marriage, the 7th. The Moon, the lord of extension of family

after marriage is with 8th Lord Saturn.

5. From the Venus, Rahu is in the 12th house of bed pleasures.

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Vic, Krishna and All,

>

> First: Lagna lord (VE) and 7th lord (MA), normally neutral, are

temporary

> enemies in this chart.

>

> Second: Their dispositor (SA), planet of delay/restriction and

(yes)

> denial, if supported by other factors, aspects 7th house of

marriage.

>

> Third: 7th lord (MA), aspecting 7th is dispositor of both 12th lord

> Mercury and Ketu...planet of hindrance/obstruction.

>

> It's important also to consider 10th house in relation to a woman's

> status. Marriage traditionally indicates a major change in status

for a

> woman...from Miss to Mrs and, of course, a change of name. What

does 10th

> lord Moon in lagna say about this? Observe Moon's nakshatra lord

(Rahu)

> in 8th who himself occupies nakshatra of Moon.

>

> Others may care to comment on these factors.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

October 31, 2008

Dear Ravindramani,

Many thanks for your input :-)

It is an interesting chart...

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" ravindramani " <ravindramani

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, October 31, 2008 8:01 PM

Re: No Marriage

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

I would like to write the following few lines on this chart.

1. The Seventh Lord Mars and Karaka for marriage under papakartari.

2. The same argument holds good from Moon Lagna too.

3. From the Venus, the 8th Lord Sun is in the house of bed

pleasures.

4. In D-9, Saturn the 8th Lord is in the 10th house of status of

marriage who influences the house of happiness of marriage and the

house of marriage, the 7th. The Moon, the lord of extension of family

after marriage is with 8th Lord Saturn.

5. From the Venus, Rahu is in the 12th house of bed pleasures.

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

October 31, 2008

Thank you, Krishna. Your replies were quite interesting!

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara.com

www.vedicastrologer.net

On Oct 31, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

> Dear Vic,

>

> Your observation that 7L Mars is in the navamsha sandhi looks very

> valid. It is important to look at both Jupiter and Venus as well

> when considering marriage.

>

> 1. I would like to highlight is the Jupiter is retrograde, note that

> he is also 7L in navamsha, thus posing obstacles and causing delays.

> I am not saying this will by itself denay marriage, but it could

> could put spanner in the works.

>

> 2. Venus occupies 12th sign in navamsha. Generally this denies happy

> married life. Even if a person marries, will not enjoy the furits of

> the marriage.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- On Fri, 31/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

> Vic D <vicdicara

> No Marriage

> jyotish-vidya

> Friday, 31 October, 2008, 1:57 AM

>

Dear Members:

>

> I've made an interesting observation

>

> dec 19, 1965 at 4am in Nairobi Kenya

>

> This native never married. She is an Indian woman - so it is unusual.

>

> Additionally her 7th House lord is Exalted in the 4th conjunct the 1st

>

> Lord Venus. There is no obvious malefic affect on Mars.

>

> How then is it that she did not marry?

>

> Observations to bear in mind:

>

> - Mars is at a peculiar degree in Capricorn: 3.20, this is peculiar

>

> because it places hi on the 0.00 degree of the Aquarius navamsha and

>

> thus denies him of any and all strength in the Navasmsha (at least via

>

> any Avastha consideration) , which is a particularly relevant chart

> for

>

> marriage.

>

> - His conjunction with Venus is with the lord of the 1st who is also

>

> the lord of the 8th. Therefore Venus, unlikely as I admit it seems,

>

> may deny a husband with this placement. However I think this

>

> consideration is not very strong on it's own without the above

>

> navamsha consideration.

>

> Do you see anything else indicating lack of marriage?

>

> ~~~ Vic DiCara

>

> www.vicdicara. com

>

> www.vedicastrologer .net

>

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>

October 31, 2008

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

Thanks for your reply!!!

> First: Lagna lord (VE) and 7th lord (MA), normally neutral, are

> temporary

> enemies in this chart.

Thank you for pointing out this essential factor

> Second: Their dispositor (SA), planet of delay/restriction and (yes)

> denial, if supported by other factors, aspects 7th house of marriage.

Re " supported by other factors " ...Saturn is the yogakaraka and

occupys a great house which is his own. I rather expected good

results, therefore. Perhaps a lesson to be learned here is the

endurance of a planet's inherent nature despite the variables of

lordship and placement - and perhaps this is particularly true in the

case of the aspects given off from that planet. What do you think?

> Third: 7th lord (MA), aspecting 7th is dispositor of both 12th lord

> Mercury and Ketu...planet of hindrance/obstruction.

Interesting. Thanks.

> It's important also to consider 10th house in relation to a woman's

> status. Marriage traditionally indicates a major change in status

> for a

> woman...from Miss to Mrs and, of course, a change of name.

Very interesting!

> What does 10th

> lord Moon in lagna say about this? Observe Moon's nakshatra lord

> (Rahu)

> in 8th who himself occupies nakshatra of Moon.

Thanks so much.

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara.com

www.vedicastrologer.net

October 31, 2008

Dear Ravindramani,

Thanks for your reply!

Regarding point 1, wouldn't you say that Venus breaks the papakartari

on Mars?

Regarding point 2, i love this train of thought. Note that since moon

is in her 1st house, EVERYTHING applying to the ascendant (udaya) will

also apply to the moon (chandra lagna).

I also especially liked your use of the Navamsha.

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara.com

www.vedicastrologer.net

On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:01 AM, ravindramani wrote:

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> I would like to write the following few lines on this chart.

>

> 1. The Seventh Lord Mars and Karaka for marriage under papakartari.

> 2. The same argument holds good from Moon Lagna too.

> 3. From the Venus, the 8th Lord Sun is in the house of bed

> pleasures.

> 4. In D-9, Saturn the 8th Lord is in the 10th house of status of

> marriage who influences the house of happiness of marriage and the

> house of marriage, the 7th. The Moon, the lord of extension of family

> after marriage is with 8th Lord Saturn.

> 5. From the Venus, Rahu is in the 12th house of bed pleasures.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> <jyotishvidya wrote:

>>

>> Dear Vic, Krishna and All,

>>

>> First: Lagna lord (VE) and 7th lord (MA), normally neutral, are

> temporary

>> enemies in this chart.

>>

>> Second: Their dispositor (SA), planet of delay/restriction and

> (yes)

>> denial, if supported by other factors, aspects 7th house of

> marriage.

>>

>> Third: 7th lord (MA), aspecting 7th is dispositor of both 12th lord

>> Mercury and Ketu...planet of hindrance/obstruction.

>>

>> It's important also to consider 10th house in relation to a woman's

>> status. Marriage traditionally indicates a major change in status

> for a

>> woman...from Miss to Mrs and, of course, a change of name. What

> does 10th

>> lord Moon in lagna say about this? Observe Moon's nakshatra lord

> (Rahu)

>> in 8th who himself occupies nakshatra of Moon.

>>

>> Others may care to comment on these factors.

>>

>> Best Wishes,

>> Mrs. Wendy

>> http://JyotishVidya.com

>> ___

>>

>

> ---

>

October 31, 2008

To everyone following this thread...

I compiled for the native a list incorporating many of the comments

given thus far by Mrs. Wendy, Krishna and C.S.Ravindramani. Here it is:

In astrology it is very rare that any ONE thing can cause anything.

Rather it's when the same outcome is expected from MANY different

factors that you can expect something to happen. So I would say that

your lack of marriage would be from both. But the 2nd reason is quite

weak. Here are some additional reasons I've found:

1. As already mentioned, I think the main thing is the position in the

Navamsha of the lord of your 7th House. Mars is in a 0 degree position

there.

2. The lord of your 7th House lives in the 4th with Venus. This sounds

very positive for marriage, but one thing must be considered... Venus

and Mars become enemies in your chart. Thus the 7th House of Marriage

does not want to cooperate with the 1st Lord of your practical life.

3. Saturn aspects your 7th House. Now I rather discounted this because

Saturn in your chart is the " yogakaraka " because he owns very positive

houses. On top of that his placement in Aquarius in the 5th is very

positive in connection with him being the yogakaraka. But now I have

second thoughts and it seems that Saturn's influence on the 7th House

must be considered negative regardless.

4. In the Navamsha, the lord of that 7th House is jupiter. In your

birth chart, Jupiter is in a very weak degree extremely early in

Gemini. So there is weakness expected on that account.

5. Venus who naturally represents the 7th House has a malefic planet

on each side of her (mars and saturn) - this is called " Bad Scissors "

or papakartari yoga. It harms the karma for marriage From some angle,

the Lord of the 7th, Mars, also is under this " scissor " .

6. From the point of view of Venus. The owner of her 8th House of

death is the Sun and that Sun in (from her point of view) in her 12th

house of sexual enjoyment. Similarly in your navamsha Rahu is in

Venus' 12th house. Therefore there is indication that there can be

denial of sexual happiness.

7. The lord of the 1st House of the Navamsha is rather completely

devastated from a marriage standpoint - being EXTREMELY tightly

conjunct with Ketu and in a difficult Nakshatra for marriage.

Furthermore this all happens in the Navamsha of Libra, which is

synonymous with your birthchart ascendant - AND also affected by Ketu

in your navamsha is Jupiter, who symbolizes that husband.

Now to list some things that have a positive effect:

1. The owner of the 7th House is exalted

2. He is conjunct a natural benefic who is also the lord of the 1st

House

3. He is in a good house, in fact causing a ruchaka yoga.

4. He aspects his own house, the 7th.

5. The 7th House also get's the aspect of the 10th Lord, who is the

benefic moon.

6. The Lord of the 7th in the Navamsha is in a good house in the birth

chart (Jupiter in the 9th)

It's not that " there are more negatives than positives, so the outcome

is negative. " Life isn't black and white and neither can astrology be

therefore. Instead the outcome is that your 7th House is very powerful

for good and for bad. There are very strong mixed results in your 7th

House. As you report, on the good side you have enjoyed many

interesting experiences on your extensive travels and you are very

good at establishing one-to-one connections with people of all ages

and background. Thus in interpersonal aspects of the 7th House have

flourished for you, which the romantic aspects of the same house have

been withdrawn.

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara.com

www.vedicastrologer.net

October 31, 2008

Dear All,

It's also very interesting to note a strong confluence of Malefic

energy in the 2nd house of family experience. Ketu is here with

Mercury (lord of the 12th and influenced by Ketu, so Mercury becomes

Malefic, too). Saturn aspects.

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara.com

www.vedicastrologer.net

October 31, 2008

Dear Mrs. Wendy, Krishna, Ravindramani et.al.:

Another interesting observation of her chart is that the high portion

of her sky (which for her is shared between the 10th and 11th Houses)

is thoroughly owned by malefic aspects from Mars and Saturn.

Additionally her 11th Lord is in a weak avastha degree. Thus the

practical manifestations in her life are weakened.

~~~ Vic DiCara

www.vicdicara.com

www.vedicastrologer.net

November 1, 2008

here are some thougts

7th lord from ascend and moon and karak venus are in paap kartari yoga

venus the karak is with strong melific mars

deblited aspect of strong saturn on 7th

8th house from 7th from ascend moon and venus is afflicted

8th house from asscend is also afflicted by rahu

12 lord mercury pleasure of bed is afflicted by saturn and ketu

well above all mars the 7th lord is on mrityu bhag degree that destroys the

7th lord

so is saturn on mrityu bhag degree making saturn very melific as well

hope this helps

-

Ramadas Rao<ramadasrao

jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya >

Friday, October 31, 2008 2:05 AM