Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Dear Members:1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m.Mexico City, MexicoNow that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the Dharma-Karma-Adhipati-Yogas is CRAZY.Any input? please give! - Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dear Vic,This is a very interesting chart.However, the point to note is that LL Mercury, 4L & 7L Jupiter and 9L Venus are all combust. Only 5L Saturn is not combust. Thereby rendering most of the dharmakarmadhipati yogas ineffective. Do you agree?Regards,Krishna--- On Sat, 18/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:Vic D <vicdicara 6 planets in 2nd house!jyotish-vidya Date: Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 1:43 AM Dear Members:1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m.Mexico City, MexicoNow that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the Dharma-Karma- Adhipati- Yogas is CRAZY.Any input? please give! - Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer .netfacebook: www.facebook. com/pages/ Authentic- Astrology- Vedic/3021449865 0~ ~ ~ Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dear Vicji, I studied the kundli. There are seven planets Sun,Moon,Mercury,Jupiter,Venus,Saturn & Pluto are in 2nd House in libra rashi. Moon can not be combust, so Moon will show it's presence, rest of all are combust. Therefore in my opinion Sun and Moon will show their presence. As per Bhrugu samhita, the native will be great follower of dharma and will be respected by King(Government) Regards S.K. jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara wrote: > > Dear Members: > > 1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m. > Mexico City, Mexico > > Now that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the Dharma- > Karma-Adhipati-Yogas is CRAZY. > > Any input? please give! > > - Vic DiCara > > ~ ~ ~ > site: www.vedicastrologer.net > facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology- Vedic/30214498650 > ~ ~ ~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 6 planets in 2 nd house!! very interesting horo. will some one who knows throw some light on his/her background.education he gained and what he/she is doing after education. he/she is 26 yrs old at present.thanks. On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 Vic D wrote : > Dear Members: > > 1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m. > Mexico City, Mexico > > Now that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting > through the Dharma- > Karma-Adhipati-Yogas is CRAZY. > > Any input? please give! > > - Vic DiCara > > ~ ~ ~ > site: www.vedicastrologer.net > facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Ved- > ic/30214498650 > ~ ~ ~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dear Krishna,However, the point to note is that LL Mercury, 4L & 7L Jupiter and 9L Venus are all combust. Only 5L Saturn is not combust. Thereby rendering most of the dharmakarmadhipati yogas ineffective. Do you agree?Yes! I agree! In fact that is the excellent thing about this chart - so many calcellations and redering ineefective of normal reading techniques because of the clump of planets all on top of one another.There is one very interesting yoga though: sankhya yuga yoga - all planets confined to two houses.What do you make of Jupiter & the sun, though? is there a war going on? If so, who would you say wins and why? - Vic DiCarasite: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650 On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:24 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:Dear Vic,This is a very interesting chart.However, the point to note is that LL Mercury, 4L & 7L Jupiter and 9L Venus are all combust. Only 5L Saturn is not combust. Thereby rendering most of the dharmakarmadhipati yogas ineffective. Do you agree?Regards,Krishna--- On Sat, 18/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:Vic D <vicdicara 6 planets in 2nd house!jyotish-vidya Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 1:43 AMDear Members:1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m.Mexico City, MexicoNow that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the Dharma-Karma- Adhipati- Yogas is CRAZY.Any input? please give!- Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer .netfacebook: www.facebook. com/pages/ Authentic- Astrology- Vedic/3021449865 0~ ~ ~Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now!http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dear All,Krishna pointed out nicely that the many combustions can simplify interpretation of this 2nd house. What about the theory of the planet in the earliest and the planet in the latest degree having significant impacts on the outcomes of stelliums? Is this a viable theory, in your opinions - in general and in this specific case? - Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~ On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:24 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:Dear Vic,This is a very interesting chart.However, the point to note is that LL Mercury, 4L & 7L Jupiter and 9L Venus are all combust. Only 5L Saturn is not combust. Thereby rendering most of the dharmakarmadhipati yogas ineffective. Do you agree?Regards,Krishna--- On Sat, 18/10/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:Vic D <vicdicara 6 planets in 2nd house!jyotish-vidya Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 1:43 AMDear Members:1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m.Mexico City, MexicoNow that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the Dharma-Karma- Adhipati- Yogas is CRAZY.Any input? please give!- Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer .netfacebook: www.facebook. com/pages/ Authentic- Astrology- Vedic/3021449865 0~ ~ ~Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now!http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 S.K.There are seven planets Sun,Moon,Mercury,Jupiter,Venus,Saturn & Pluto are in 2nd House in libra rashi.Since you mention Pluto... let me run off on a tangent about planets beyond Saturn:Astrology is NOT astronomy. it's not about what's up in the sky, its about how the objects in the sky represent their trans-dimensional counterparts within ourSELVES.There are 7 chakras or energy centers in the body. at the root is saturn, he holds things in, like our bladder and bowels. on the left side of the root chakra is capricorn, on the right is aquarius - this is saturn's chakra, so he rules both these signs.closer in from saturn is jupiter... the next chakra up - the sexual chakra. jupiter rules expansion, which is done through sex. on the left side of this chakra is sagittarius, on the right pisces, jupiter of course rules them bothclose in from jupiter is mars... the next chaktra up - the digestive chaka - which the acidic fires of mars create. on the left: scorpio, on the right aries: both ruled by marscloser in from mars is the earth, and then Venus... the next chakra up is the heart chakra. venus creates this chakra with her love and peace. on the left is libra, on the right taurus. she rules them bothcloser in from venus is mercury... next chakra is the throat chakra. mercury creates this chakra with his communications. on his left is virgo, on the right gemini: he rules them bothcloser in from mercury is the sun itself, who is always with his co-equal feminine counterpart, the moon. the moon is on the right, the sun on the left. the next chakra up from the throat is the chakra between the eyes (third eye). on the right is the moon: cancer, on the left is the Sun: Leo.Above them is the crown chakra - the galactic sun which empowers everything but is not a part of it.I may have gotten left and right mixed up, but you can see that if you start with cancer at the top and go through the zodiac it matches perfectly. ***Adding new planets is nonsensical. It destroys the perfect symmetry of everything.***Planets have no power to "influence" us. They merely WITNESS our actions and HOLD ("Graha") on to the reactions until the time is right to give them their manifestation. Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, etc. are not within ourselves - they can't witness anything and they don't have the ability to hold any karma. Thus they are NOT "graha".Any attributes found to ascribe to these planets are just poetry and any accuracy therein is just sloppy astrological science and coincidence.Moon can not be combust, so Moon will show it's presence, rest of all are combust.We recently discussed moon-combustion in this group and decided that per parashara the moon DOES combust. The practical effect is that the moon is completely dark and thus emaciated and weak in the extreme.Therefore in my opinion Sun and Moon will show their presence.Not sure about the moon due to the above.As per Bhrugu samhita, the native will be great follower of dharma and will be respected by King(Government)How you you get that? - Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~ On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:07 AM, skaryakarte wrote:Dear Vicji,I studied the kundli.There are seven planets Sun,Moon,Mercury,Jupiter,Venus,Saturn & Pluto are in 2nd House in libra rashi.Moon can not be combust, so Moon will show it's presence, rest of all are combust.Therefore in my opinion Sun and Moon will show their presence.As per Bhrugu samhita, the native will be great follower of dharma and will be respected by King(Government)RegardsS.K.jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara wrote:Dear Members:1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m.Mexico City, MexicoNow that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the Dharma- Karma-Adhipati-Yogas is CRAZY.Any input? please give!- Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dear Shashi,I will obtain such info shortly. First let's see what we can predict and then see how it matches the practical experience of the native. - Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~ On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Shashi Singh wrote:6 planets in 2 nd house!! very interesting horo. will some one who knows throw some light on his/her background.education he gained and what he/she is doing after education. he/she is 26 yrs old at present.thanks.On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 Vic D wrote :Dear Members:1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m.Mexico City, MexicoNow that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the Dharma- Karma-Adhipati-Yogas is CRAZY.Any input? please give!- Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Ved-ic/30214498650~ ~ ~--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Dear Vic, Thanks for enlightening me on the seven planets. Now about my opinion, Please refer " Bhrugu samhita phalit darpan, page no. 622, where the effect of Sun,Mon,Mer,Jup,Ven & Sat combination is given. " I am a beginner and not expert, but to my advantage, whenever i try to answer I get more and more valuable information and knowledge. Thanks again. Regards SK -- - In jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara wrote: > > S.K. > > > > There are seven planets Sun,Moon,Mercury,Jupiter,Venus,Saturn & Pluto > > are in 2nd House in libra rashi. > > > > Since you mention Pluto... let me run off on a tangent about planets > beyond Saturn: > > Astrology is NOT astronomy. it's not about what's up in the sky, its > about how the objects in the sky represent their trans-dimensional > counterparts within ourSELVES. > > There are 7 chakras or energy centers in the body. at the root is > saturn, he holds things in, like our bladder and bowels. on the left > side of the root chakra is capricorn, on the right is aquarius - this > is saturn's chakra, so he rules both these signs. > > closer in from saturn is jupiter... the next chakra up - the sexual > chakra. jupiter rules expansion, which is done through sex. on the > left side of this chakra is sagittarius, on the right pisces, jupiter > of course rules them both > > close in from jupiter is mars... the next chaktra up - the digestive > chaka - which the acidic fires of mars create. on the left: scorpio, > on the right aries: both ruled by mars > > closer in from mars is the earth, and then Venus... the next chakra up > is the heart chakra. venus creates this chakra with her love and > peace. on the left is libra, on the right taurus. she rules them both > > closer in from venus is mercury... next chakra is the throat chakra. > mercury creates this chakra with his communications. on his left is > virgo, on the right gemini: he rules them both > > closer in from mercury is the sun itself, who is always with his co- > equal feminine counterpart, the moon. the moon is on the right, the > sun on the left. the next chakra up from the throat is the chakra > between the eyes (third eye). on the right is the moon: cancer, on the > left is the Sun: Leo. > > Above them is the crown chakra - the galactic sun which empowers > everything but is not a part of it. > > I may have gotten left and right mixed up, but you can see that if you > start with cancer at the top and go through the zodiac it matches > perfectly. ***Adding new planets is nonsensical. It destroys the > perfect symmetry of everything.*** > > Planets have no power to " influence " us. They merely WITNESS our > actions and HOLD ( " Graha " ) on to the reactions until the time is right > to give them their manifestation. Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, etc. are not > within ourselves - they can't witness anything and they don't have the > ability to hold any karma. Thus they are NOT " graha " . > > Any attributes found to ascribe to these planets are just poetry and > any accuracy therein is just sloppy astrological science and > coincidence. > > > > Moon can not be combust, so Moon will show it's presence, rest of all > > are combust. > > We recently discussed moon-combustion in this group and decided that > per parashara the moon DOES combust. The practical effect is that the > moon is completely dark and thus emaciated and weak in the extreme. > > > Therefore in my opinion Sun and Moon will show their presence. > > Not sure about the moon due to the above. > > > As per Bhrugu samhita, the native will be great follower of dharma > > and will be respected by King(Government) > > How you you get that? > > > - Vic DiCara > > ~ ~ ~ > site: www.vedicastrologer.net > facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology- Vedic/30214498650 > ~ ~ ~ > > > > On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:07 AM, skaryakarte wrote: > > > Dear Vicji, > > I studied the kundli. > > There are seven planets Sun,Moon,Mercury,Jupiter,Venus,Saturn & Pluto > > are in 2nd House in libra rashi. > > Moon can not be combust, so Moon will show it's presence, rest of all > > are combust. > > Therefore in my opinion Sun and Moon will show their presence. > > > > As per Bhrugu samhita, the native will be great follower of dharma > > and will be respected by King(Government) > > Regards > > S.K. > > > > jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara@> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Members: > >> > >> 1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m. > >> Mexico City, Mexico > >> > >> Now that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through the > > Dharma- > >> Karma-Adhipati-Yogas is CRAZY. > >> > >> Any input? please give! > >> > >> - Vic DiCara > >> > >> ~ ~ ~ > >> site: www.vedicastrologer.net > >> facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology- > > Vedic/30214498650 > >> ~ ~ ~ > >> > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 SK,Thanks for your reply! - Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~ On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:01 AM, skaryakarte wrote:Dear Vic,Thanks for enlightening me on the seven planets.Now about my opinion,Please refer "Bhrugu samhita phalit darpan, page no. 622, where the effect of Sun,Mon,Mer,Jup,Ven & Sat combination is given."I am a beginner and not expert, but to my advantage, whenever i try to answer I get more and more valuable information and knowledge.Thanks again.RegardsSKjyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara wrote:S.K.There are seven planets Sun,Moon,Mercury,Jupiter,Venus,Saturn & Plutoare in 2nd House in libra rashi.Since you mention Pluto... let me run off on a tangent about planets beyond Saturn:Astrology is NOT astronomy. it's not about what's up in the sky, its about how the objects in the sky represent their trans-dimensional counterparts within ourSELVES.There are 7 chakras or energy centers in the body. at the root is saturn, he holds things in, like our bladder and bowels. on the left side of the root chakra is capricorn, on the right is aquarius - this is saturn's chakra, so he rules both these signs.closer in from saturn is jupiter... the next chakra up - the sexual chakra. jupiter rules expansion, which is done through sex. on the left side of this chakra is sagittarius, on the right pisces, jupiter of course rules them bothclose in from jupiter is mars... the next chaktra up - the digestive chaka - which the acidic fires of mars create. on the left: scorpio, on the right aries: both ruled by marscloser in from mars is the earth, and then Venus... the next chakra up is the heart chakra. venus creates this chakra with her love and peace. on the left is libra, on the right taurus. she rules them bothcloser in from venus is mercury... next chakra is the throat chakra. mercury creates this chakra with his communications. on his left is virgo, on the right gemini: he rules them bothcloser in from mercury is the sun itself, who is always with his co-equal feminine counterpart, the moon. the moon is on the right, the sun on the left. the next chakra up from the throat is the chakra between the eyes (third eye). on the right is the moon: cancer, on the left is the Sun: Leo.Above them is the crown chakra - the galactic sun which empowers everything but is not a part of it.I may have gotten left and right mixed up, but you can see that if you start with cancer at the top and go through the zodiac it matches perfectly. ***Adding new planets is nonsensical. It destroys the perfect symmetry of everything.***Planets have no power to "influence" us. They merely WITNESS our actions and HOLD ("Graha") on to the reactions until the time is right to give them their manifestation. Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, etc. are not within ourselves - they can't witness anything and they don't have the ability to hold any karma. Thus they are NOT "graha".Any attributes found to ascribe to these planets are just poetry and any accuracy therein is just sloppy astrological science and coincidence.Moon can not be combust, so Moon will show it's presence, rest of allare combust.We recently discussed moon-combustion in this group and decided that per parashara the moon DOES combust. The practical effect is that the moon is completely dark and thus emaciated and weak in the extreme.Therefore in my opinion Sun and Moon will show their presence.Not sure about the moon due to the above.As per Bhrugu samhita, the native will be great follower of dharmaand will be respected by King(Government)How you you get that?- Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:07 AM, skaryakarte wrote:Dear Vicji,I studied the kundli.There are seven planets Sun,Moon,Mercury,Jupiter,Venus,Saturn & Plutoare in 2nd House in libra rashi.Moon can not be combust, so Moon will show it's presence, rest of allare combust.Therefore in my opinion Sun and Moon will show their presence.As per Bhrugu samhita, the native will be great follower of dharmaand will be respected by King(Government)RegardsS.K.jyotish-vidya , Vic D <vicdicara@> wrote:Dear Members:1982, november 13 @ 4:10 a.m.Mexico City, MexicoNow that's some intense stuff right there! Sorting through theDharma-Karma-Adhipati-Yogas is CRAZY.Any input? please give!- Vic DiCara~ ~ ~site: www.vedicastrologer.netfacebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Authentic-Astrology-Vedic/30214498650~ ~ ~--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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